Let's get some perspective on Mining

Labour and the Greens are busy running around bleating about New Zealand unlocking some of the wealth in our conservation estate. Frankly New Zealand can’t afford NOT to access those minerals.

DPF caught out the Greens lying like an IPCC report saying that it was appalling that evil National and their Mining buddies are going to destroy the “most precious and significant land in New Zealand’s public conservation estate to be laid bare for mining.

Oh and don’t forget that “National have no mandate to allow mining in National Parks”. David “Rowling” Parker forgets that Chris “Koru Club” Carter authorised Pike River Mine smack in the middle of a National Park. That was ok by him then, he was in cabinet that approved it so he must have been.

I’m over their lies, aided and abetted by the anonymous Labour staffers cowards at The Standard I might add. So let’s look at the real numbers in a graphic that even the dumbest pinko and greenie felchmong can understand, with pictures. Why the national Research unit hasn’t already done this is beyond me, but here we go.

Mining in Conservation land

Mining in Conservation Land compared with New Zealand and the Greens fantasy.

As you can see we are talking about fuck all, something like 7 kilometres square. To put that in pictures for the simpletons it would be like mining some of the worst areas of Manukau, which is probably far better to do than keeping it the way it is.

Manukau vs. Mining area

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  • garry

    I agree with you – but – and this is the issue in my opinion, with politics and politicians. All sides of the debate are concerned about the agenda that may or may not be behind any suggestions of change. History may (only may) suggest that when a change occurs, it is then nibbled away at by vested interests and ends up being much larger than originally promoted. Then when someone holds up their hand and says why – the poli’s give suitably obtuse statements and so on the roundabout goes. I dont think its simple with politics. Im an amateur and largely ignorant of the ins and outs of our system – and readily admit i dont understand many of the pronouncements of our leaders – but i sometimes suspiciously think they like to keep us in a position where we are too embarassed to admit that the Emporers new Clothes are in fact non-existent and a fraud.

    I dont like the greens – i dont believe in global warming – but i do think that politicians exist in a land of fantasy and lies. We are told to bring our kids up to be law abiding – “tell the truth and you will be a good person” … but these people who steer the ship of state lie, prevaricate, dissimulate and generally tell awful stories that they then change to suit whatever pressure they may find themselves under?? And our kids watch the media that displays this bizarre behaviour. Thats just my opinion for what its worth. The older i get – the more disillusioned i become.

    I dont mind mining – i do mind uncontrolled immigration – uncontrolled and rapacious foreign investment and feeling like a stranger in my own place of birth and cultural background. I do however NOT trust politicians and party politics to safeguard our environment. The Nats and Labour want us all to swallow the lie of the moment – the Greens want us to all pay through the nose, wear homespun knickers and ride bicycles and basically have a reduced quality of life – and the rest of MMP asylum inhabitants just want to form a coalition so they can warm a seat in parliament.

    Mining – whaleoil – i respect your forthrightness and your sound maths on the subject – but i just dont find myself able to believe that these self interested retired merchant bankers etc can ever move beyond having a forum whose best product was a stalled idea for a national cycleway …. and that came from captains of industry.

    I think i will apply for a job at telecom – 6 million a year sounds like a good wicket to me for stuffing things up. To quote michael joseph savage … “mean streets breed even meaner people”

    Cheers mate – your arguments are really stimulating and true – i just think the government arent unfortunately you … they just dont care about average people.

    G

  • petal

    I think it’s time again to call for the Greens to ban that very, very toxic Hydrogen di-Oxide. I hear it’s affecting ALL of the conservation estate as we speak!

  • http://www.macdoctor.co.nz MacDoctor

    The MacDoctor requests you move that nasty red square. He lives there (just near one edge) and would be highly irritated if Mr. Brownlee started mining under his house… 8O
    PS. Not all of the bits in the red square are horrid, Whale.

  • John Q Public

    ..just most.

  • bigkev

    Hydro­gen di-Oxide. i love that one, penn and teller did a goodie on their bullshit prog 1/2 the greenies at the convention signed their petition for banning it

  • bob

    um 7000 hectares is 70 square km, so about 8.3 km squared. looks like macdoc just got bulldozed

  • Mathew

    The problem we have with certain people here in New Zealand is that we want to be WORLD LEADERS but to acheive this we need to do this sort of stuff. They are worried about all this PC rubbish and how we look but to get ahead in this day and age we need to make tough decisions. Police with Guns YES, Global Warming LOAD OF RUBBISH, MPS resigning over a few bottles of wine and other things OH MY GOD, The Prime Minister of Italy has shagged heaps of girls left his wife etc still in office, agree with it or not he just stuck his finger up to the world. TOUGHEN UP man say it like it is and just do it.

  • The Gantt Guy

    After a decade of leftard felching, where the best economic times EVER were squandered by the Dear Leader and her faithful servant Igor Kullen, New Zealand is borrowing a billion dollars a month just to keep the lights on. Smile & Wave Key has so far not had the bottle to do anything to reduce his outgoings, so he must therefore increase his income, else the bank will cut up the credit card.

    The Deputy Governor of the Reserve Bank of Australia was on ABC Radio here the other day saying the mining boom has another 15 years to run, and China & India’s rapacious desire for minerals shows no sign of abating before then.

    What’s not to like? Mining a small portion of the conservation estate will help to keep the debt collectors from the door, it may even help to pay down some debt and put NZ closer to a reasonable debt position (or fund increases in benefits!). And best of all, the watermelons HATE the idea. It can’t come soon enough for me. Dig, baby, dig. Come on Jerry I’ll even lend you my shovel!

  • Jimmie

    um bob I think 7000 ha is 7 square km not 70. (7km x 7km)

    so yeah I would think the whale got his square the right size

  • Rob

    Heard about the Hydogen dioxide petition.
    Green Rules.
    Rule 1. Ban It.
    Rule 2. Ban It.
    Rule 3. If in doubt refer to Rule No. 1.

    They don’t want us to ride Bikes. The social rot started when some fool invented the Wheel. The worlds first Greenie said it was just another fad that wouldn’t last.

  • bob

    jimmie, 7km by 7km is 49 square km, or 7km squared. confusing i know, but had you stayed in school until the fourth form was finished, you might have mastered this.

    let me google that for you: http://tinyurl.com/ycpbzwa

  • mediatart

    Pike River is not in a National Park. And the method of mining is undergound. I would bet that no one else will try this way again with all their troubles

  • Ed

    Thank you, man. It’s about time these hippies got a little perspective.

  • caleb

    would any new mining royalties, to the government, after tainui takes its cut, be revenue nuetral?

    do we get tax cuts or does the government get to increase its size. maybe the money would be just enough to keep up current spending.

    could be easier to push for new mining than to try and tell the msm we need to sell soe and cut spending.

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  • Rob

    Has anybody thought about the long term 1. You can only dig, say, coal out of the ground once 2. Bush will regenerate. So I say do it properly the first time and then let nature do what nature does best. Better than we could do, for free.

  • Sinner

    so yeah I would think the whale got his square the right size

    Whale might have got his square the right size but that means JohnKey got his square the WRONG size.

    Time we opened the whole of the cuntry to mining – we’re borrowing $500 MILLION every fucking WEEK, we have to pay the money back somehow!

    If some land snails or lesser spotted fag warblers get mulched who really cares? No-one that matters.

    When the cuntry is as FUCKED as NZ is now, the idea that we can afford NOT to mine anywhere there are minerals is just stupid.