They don't like it up 'em

Shane Kawenata BradbrookI attended the Maori Affairs select committee today to give my submission on Smoking. There surely can’t be a more ridiculous proceeding than watching troughers line up one after the other begging to stay at the trough.

I can tell you it was an eye opener. The three submitters before gave submissions that were frankly ridiculous.

There was a couple of submitters who’s great idea to stop Maori smoking was straight out the Eugenics/Nazi handbook. If only the other submitters and some of the committee were smart enough to notice. He rambled on first about how much he was missing all his dead whanau killed by the evil tobacco companies who targeted them, then forced the cigarette into their mouths, then forced them to flick the bic to light it. Then he gave his great idea, a software database the records all of the whanu, hapu, and iwi members and their parents and their parent’s parents. Then record all those who smoke and then they would be able to trace the bloodlines to identify new mokopuna who’s bloodline suggested that they would smoke. Pure unadulterated bullshit. The most unbelievable aspect of his submission was that he was able to muddle along for about 30 minutes un-interrupted.

The next person to submit thought it brilliant to reinvent myths fairy-tales “Maori History” and re-tell the tales of Maui, Tane Mahuta etc but with a no smoking message. Like Maui couldn’t have fished up the North Island if he was a smoker because he wouldn’t have been fit enough. But that wasn’t all, they then wanted to put all that to music, hip-hop or whatever and design a kapa haka dance. Yeah that’ll work. Again from this submitter there was much wailing again about the evil white man’s smoke stick. Again they rambled past their 15 minutes uninterrupted.

Next up was veteran trougher Teresa Taylor. Who with her daughter presumably, the other half of T& T Consulting told us all about her mothers 15 siblings who were murdered by the tobacco companies. Much blame, finger pointing and grievance claiming. And all with the “support” of Shane Bradbrook, Te Reo Marama master trougher who kept patting her back as she recall the tragedy of 15 uncles and aunties dying and how she missed them all so terribly. As I wiped a tear from my eye i got my box of documents ready.

Then the guy immediately before, well half-man really, he had a body like a half sucked throatie, told us that his parents and grandparents smoking, now dead, had caused him to have itchy eyes, blood noses, skin irritations etc. I wondered if he had ever heard of hayfever and migraines.

Now it was my turn, I was called. “Cam, bro, your turn, get up here” from Tau Henare. The room went cold, the air crackled. Death-stares came out. Shane Bradbrook and Teresa Taylor shifted from the back of the seating to right up behind my chair. I started my submission and not 2 minutes into it Metiria Turei interrupts me mid sentence and tries to call time. I shit you not. then she negotiated with Tau Henare and they gave me 8 minutes more. Fuck me dead. I couldn’t believe it. It seems if you are Maori you can waffle on with idiotic ideas and If you are a white Mofo telling the truth about the 40 troughers sitting behind you the think it is ok to be rude,and interrupt. Well fuck them I thought and carried on. Next time I was interrupted it was by some Labour moll doing the same thing. I think BK was asleep beside her. Same nonsense, give 2 more minutes, I was up to 12 minutes. Then cut off. It seems like they don’t like hearing the truth. The whole way through my submission Shane Bradbrook was cursing me under his breathe, audible to me only. When I challenged the troughers and the committee to tell me exactly how many smokers there are, they scoffed at my claim there were no statistics fresher than 2005. There isn’t, it was a safe bet.

Loud complaining started when I said that everyone who has submitted before me in the course of this committee or will submit after are nothing but troughers asking for more money to stop smoking. The simple facts are that money won’t work, the only people being helped by all the money are the troughers and their immediate families. In 2004 when this Industry began under Labour there were 700,000 smokers, on one of the troughers websites in their 2009 strategic plan, a plan I might add contained only one number, quoted that there were 700,000 smokers. Well they are the experts, that is what they get all the funding for so it must be right. So, for the grand total of $168,712,369 we have not many any progress. We have essentially thrown money away and the troughers have gleefully picked it up.

I’m told that today was the first time media had attended, and they unattended as soon as I finished and went outside, only to be accosted by a woman. Who was more than a little ticked off with me. The louder she talked the softer I talked. Eventually she gave up. The media packed up as soon as I did and left as soon as I did, seems they weren’t interested in anyone else’s submissions.

This whole process is a farce, every single submitter except me had a vested interest, they are either knee deep in the trough, in charge of the trough or in more than one instance doing both. The whole Tobacco industry is nothing but a huge fraud perpetrated in New Zealand. They have no KPI’s, they measure nothing, is it any wonder we are chucking $55 million a year at this and going nowhere. They were basically asking for more of everything. Well I say fuck them. Show us some results. They can’t and they know it.

I learned one thing for sure, this is just another grievance drive for Maori who are intent on blaming everyone but themselves, but who is say we don’t deserve it, we have bred this dependence and feeling of grievance. It’s our own fault and for sure no one on that Select Committee is going to upset the troughers.

My respect for Metiria Turei evaporated to nothing today by her petty politics in a Select Committee process against a submitter who wasn’t on her team and wasn’t brown.

They sure didn’t like it up them.

  • http://whaleoil.gotcha.co.nz/members/donkey/ donkey

    good work WO – but fuck mate let these lazy troughers keep smoking – then they will die and we will be rid of them.

  • garry

    gidday Whale – good on you for taking the time. If you have ever been to a hui or a tangi you will see the same behaviour.

    The Treaty industry started this … with the resulting consultants who consult on all the IWI issues – now they want to be paid to examine why they die.

    Mea Culpa

    Cheers
    G

  • steve

    I gave up smoking after 40 years of puffing. I gave up for a reason, not because I would be murdered.
    I decided to smoke in 1967 and I decided to stop in 2008.
    Give it up Shane, you are a trougher

  • jason

    I wish they’d given me 168 million dollars. The same number of people would be smoking, but I’d be a lot happier.

  • Doug

    I admit that I smoke occasionally (tobacco) and rather enjoy it, I’m thinking of giving up it won’t be the Government that makes me quit. It will be my own willpower.

  • garry

    Gidday doug .. frankly i dont think the issue is about smoking mate – its about troughing or creaming off public money by bureaucrats.

    The Waitangi tribunal started that with Maori – creating opportunities for select people to make money … My son smokes and i dont condemn him for it. he is part maori through me … but heres the rub … we cant conclusively prove iwi affiliation for any assistance for anything (not smoking … more educational assistance).

    There are several huge troughs that encompass and go wider than maori ….

    Ethnic affairs
    NZ on air
    Creative NZ – various maori and pacific funds
    Maori Affairs

    and all the hidden depts that fund Maori and Pacific issues …

    Troughs frequented by greedy piggies

  • adybombs

    Send them a bill for wasting your time. I can’t believe they asked you to appear, knowing what your angle was and then cut you short. Why did they even bother, so they claim they listen to all points of view?
    Looks to me like they are going to hand out more pigswill to Bradbrook

  • burtonsballs

    According to the Maori party we should all be made to quit, 90% of us (while affected by LSD) said we wanted to quit….

  • burtonsballs

    oh before we all get angry about LSD I meant Listening (to) Shit Disorder

  • hawkeye

    This is your best work that I can remember WO, better than the name suppression campaign even. Digging up all the statistics/conflicts of interest was key and it’s amazing that our woeful paid media did not do this already.

    Also it sounds like you were treated disgracefully by the Select Committee, it’s a shame the Left like to silence speech that they disagree with. Funnily enough what you brought up wasn’t a left vs right issue, it was a waste issue. Everyone hates waste. But Turei is a true waste of space, one of our worst MPs, with no class whatsoever, so she can’t be expected to know any better.

    My only complaint about your report is that you could have made it more concise and to-the-point if you had resisted the temptation to bring up Climategate etc, these sideshows distracted from your main points and would provide something for Left-wingers to seize on and use to change the subject.

    Anyway I hope this whole story, and the way the Select Committee report was handled, gets some public coverage. Keep fighting the good fight.

  • burtonsballs

    WO the whole problem with NZ is (IMHO) Eugenics. Its why (the) Maori are so downtrodden(forgetting my son my daughter and my partner, my cousins where do I stop…btw i am a NZ European to those who dont know me). Only complete subjugation of the Pakeha can stop it!

    You should not EVER be allowed to submit anything anywhere, please stay at home the cleansing squad knows where you live and will be right with you, and will be happy to cleanse your impure thoughts…..

  • burtonsballs

    Quoting Hawkeye…”This is your best work that I can remem­ber WO”

    F’n Oath….keep it up from a concerned smoker/voter/taxpayer

  • grizz

    You should make a T-Shirt with Bradbrooke’s face with the pig’s snout so everytime you comment on this issue over the media you can make your point stick out more.

  • rongowaiata

    Frightening stuff. When they come close to give THE LOOK from behind thats the end. You did well to get the extra time. One thing is clear – the purpose is not to stop Maori smoking, its to screw the system. I think that kÄ« tĹŤnu taku waka topaki i te tuna – and they are all wriggling still.

  • grizz

    technically though, you do have an interest in this industry, being the Quit Now programme. As a non 7th-day adventist, I could look at this as you trying to convince the select committee to give money to your church.

    The reality is that there are multiple ways to quit smoking and what works depends on the individual concerned. Tobacco kills all races and does not care who smokes it. I would prefer it if only one all inclusive group were funded as a quit smoking advocacy organisation.

    I know in the Emergency Department where I work we offer a first line intervention to smokers offering them information and help to get them in touch with advocates from quitline as well as a prescription for nicotine patches and gum. It will be interesting to study this to see how effective it is.

    My vested interest is purely medical in minimising risks for heart disease, stroke and a plethora of cancers. I also have concerns about young women in particular smoking for pregnancy related reasons as smoking increases pregnancy complications, low birthweight and premature babies. It also leads to increased respiratory disease in infants. While you might say I am troughing as I am lazy and want to work less, but I do not think it is fair that a child should have to suffer if their parents choose to smoke.

  • bigkev

    The amount of stuff also that goes in the bins around the country must be huge and in dollar value aswell, in my case when they (doc & his nurse) were trying to make me give up smoking haha, 1st was the patches i got 8 boxes with however many patches in i used the 1st box was covered in patch size welts all over the place – 7 boxes went in the bin. Next came the gum same deal 8 boxes with 2 trays in,1 peice – this shit is the most revolting stuff man ever made – 7.99 boxes in the bin, and then they decided lozenges would be the go for me, another 8 boxes same as before they tasted ok (just) but they are slimey for reasons unknowen – and i just dont do slimey in the mouth – 7 boxes in the bin. I said to the chemist each time, gimmie 1 box to try but she was noop this is how it is each time thats the law, i even tryed giving the the 7.99 boxes of gum back – nop carnt do that i may have tampered with them. i did find a good gum tho in the supermarkets “nicorette” its got nice flavour/s veries from $7 $12 for 1 tray of 12 gums. end of the day whats this stuff worth i chucked 21 boxes in the bin for all i know i might have put a grands worth of stuff in the wheelie bin and there will be thousands just like me surely

  • theresaj

    My brother and I both gave up smoking thru hypnosis. The man I went to was a retired G.P. who devoted his retirement years to helping people quit smoking. This method works but it is doubtful as to whether these people are really looking for a method which works.

  • crabby

    Good Shit WO, the exposure has begun! Im not surprised that they tried to cut you short so they can bury their heads in the trough and keep on troughing

    I think the T-Shirt with Shane and his snout would be a grand idea

    this looks like a good blog to spam hehe http://waatea.blogspot.com/2010/03/select-committee-tobacco-inquiry-starts.html

  • garry

    I’ve been reading and re-reading your fascinating account of your day at the select committee.

    I cant believe the blaming of the coming of the white man.

    What about the Maori issues as yet unresolved …

    - Extremely warlike and patriarchal society
    - Philosophies based on “payback” or revenge (i think called utu)
    - Cannibalism
    - Genocide of the Moriori (and it appears the evil white man stood aside and turned a blind eye – but they did it not the white man)
    - Tribes who jumped on the white mans bandwagon and used the opportunity to enlarge their own fiefdoms particularly when guns were available … where were the high sounding principles of tangata whenua then – nope – just naked opportunism of the moment

    I think wrongs were done to Maori. No doubt of it – but Maori are good conquerors themselves and have a propensity for taking advantage of a situation quickly and efficiently. I admire people like Apirana Ngata and Sir Peter Buck – great and dignified men – this current lot are just not up to the same measure.

    We’ve paid out on the treaty – we’ve taken it up the fundamental orifice for all the wrongs perpetrated – now for goodness sake – please keep your hands out of the cookie jar and deal with your own problems yourselves. There are people out there who smoke because they have no hope for the future – $55 million deployed elsewhere could be better served providing employment and other decent services.

    At least Brian Tamaki is doing the decent thing .. he’s got his hands in his congregations pockets and not that of the taxpayer. Smart man.

    Whale – it takes guts and sheer courage to face this sort of “inhouse behaviour” … the new maori aristocracy are very good at trying to bully critics and shut them down.

    I will never forget an occasion at the Newmarket Club in Auckland – i was taken for a few drinks by a colleague of mine some years ago. One of the other patrons was a prominent Maori Broadcaster (i wont name names or even indicate – i’ve already gotten into trouble for accidentally doing so on here before) …I recognised him and tried to engage him in conversation when he tried to show myself and my colleague his newest gadget – a mini-tv set. I sort of got the impression he was possibly 3 sheets in the wind at the time – but i persisted and said i was part maori – and my understanding of our Iwi connections etc – he turned to me out of the blue and said “I dont f***ing care bro” – now benefit of the doubt .. he was drunk. On screen that particular person was regarded as a paragon of cultural virtue. That evening – he was as common as muck.

    Point – dont any of us be fooled by this cosy view of noble savages. There is much in that culture that is fine and very very valuable. But like ALL cultures – they cant claim any moral ascendancy.

    A certain politician got caught buying $80 silk undies and other things on the Maori TV cheque account – part of his defence – that he was descended from the warriors that fought at rangiriri. That is an insult to the brave men on both sides who fought and died at that site in the waikato (and that WAS an unjust incursion by Imperial Colonial Troops).

    I admire the King Movement in Waikato – those folk were printing their own currency and established borders and a governmental system – playing the colonisers at their own game – Kingitanga was unjustly and without provocation, persecuted. Same goes for Te Whiti O rongomai in Taranaki.

    But these new people – these troughers – they dont match the dignity of their forebears. Compare them to King Tawhiao and Te Whiti or Rua Kenana or Te Kooti – the great men – these just dont measure up in my humble opinion.

    Cheers
    G

    Cheers
    G

  • marybelle

    Good on you Cameron for participating in the Maori Affairs select com­mit­tee on smoking. I can’t believe that $168,712,369 million dollars has been spent over the past few years trying to get people to stop smoking. Where is the accountability for this money? Someone has to take responsibility for this. The government funded smoking money tree has got to be stubbed out! It is about time smokers took responsibility for their own lives no matter what colour their skin is. As for the carry on at this committee meeting – how many other select committees are run like this? A lot of taxpayers money could be saved by a reorganisation of how select committees are run.

  • ktnz

    These troughers are just another sad example of more lefties encouraging people to blame everyone but themselves for their problems. Too many providing services to Maori are of this attitude, and we now have a large group in society with no idea of personal responsibility. All they are doing is hurting Maori and holding them back. Setting aside the huge amount of taxpayer dosh wasted, even just the time and energy spent dwelling on the past and whinging could have been put to better use a long time ago.

  • nikthegreat

    Grrrrrrrrrrr…..those idiots give me the screaming shits. One reply above is quite right – we have helped foster this f@#$ing grievance mentality, a titful of dollars, if you like, from which we cannot wean the lazy arses. I’m brown-skinned by the way and have worked hard all my life. these whining, bullshitters make me sick.

  • steve

    As I said yesterday I quit cigarettes for a reason (surgery and bone fusion).This was done with a drug called “Champix” a 16 week course from memory and quite expensive. I only took it for the first 3 weeks then threw out the rest of my B&H.
    People smoke because of the addiction and they like the taste. The idea of “Champix” is to alter the chemical receptors so the smoke tastes like a dead wet smelly rotten fish. Your brain interprets it this way so you stop smoking.
    Shane Bradbrook is just one of the troughers sucking on the public tit and teaching other Maori to do the same.
    It has to be a personal decision. If you choose to smoke it is your choice, if you choose to quit it has to be your choice without being financed by the taxpayer.
    You are a legend Shane, teaching Moari to blame Pakeha and the tobacco barons. Typical Socialist bullshit.

  • spanishbride

    People need MOTIVATION to make changes in their lives.
    I am motivated to do 3-4 hours a week at the gym for two reasons. One, I want my monies worth. If it was FREE I wouldn’t be motivated to use my membership at all.Human nature is we do not VALUE what we do not pay for.
    Two, if I do not work out all the anger and frustration I currently feel it will end up being released on my nearest and dearest and even more so on people I currently feel very let down and upset with.

    Most people would feel motivated by the threat of death and cancer. Smoking has one of the BIGGEST motivations to quit inherent in it. We ALL KNOW it can kill, cause many disgusting cancers etc so who the hell would not be motivated to not smoke? If death and cancer does not motivate a person to stop NOTHING WILL.

    Until a person makes the decision to stop and takes action there is nothing that can be done.

    I think there should be an ad campaign where the NZ Govt thanks smokers for saving the NZ tax payer so much money by dying early and not being around to claim the pension!

  • megashitstirrer

    I am surprised at Metiria Turei WO, as a past member of McGillycuddy Serious she should have had much higher standards than to try and snip you early. When she was a member a pie on your head would have been protocol.

    As for Tau rag Henare, he has the leading stats as a world-class waka jumper. If you have ever read his facebook page it is full of self congratulation and any dissent gets deleted.

    Now you know why the Maori party and other troughers like BK are keen on baby steps regarding cultural transformation, you cant keep troughing if there is no gravy train.

  • inventory2

    Point well made ktnz. At my last job I worked with a number of young Maori with giant-sized chips on their shoulders towards non-Maori, and little if any appreciation of the concept of personal responsibility for one’s actions.

  • psychnurse

    Your post delivers WO. Hopefully you get some T.V coverage tonight.
    Blame the white for tobacco!! Blame the North American Indians. Tobacco is an American plant. Columbus arrived to North America in 1492, he observed Native Americans smoking it.

  • michaels

    Fuck me Whale you never fail to stun me….
    You “HAD” respect for Metiria Turei???????

  • jabba

    ummmm .. both my parents died from smoking related diseases .. do you think I can get some compensation??
    (Dad was a Jock and Mum born in Palmerston Nth to Pommy parents which maybe a problem I guess)?
    and michaels above is correct .. ffs

  • steve

    Wonder why my 12.41pm comment went to moderation?
    Was it the shocking spelling? (Moari/Maori)or was it mentioning the S words? (Socialist bullshit)

    • http://whaleoil.gotcha.co.nz Whaleoil

      Steve, no idea why moderation, but the system learns so should work itself out. The more comments the easier it gets. I only moderate manually offensivve posts against me, or people I know. I refuse to see why I should have people pissing on my carpet, in my house.

  • spanishbride

    Wo’s much beloved Grandpa died from lung cancer.
    My father smoked in the car on loooong trips and gave it up in his 40′s because he got sick of burning holes in his shirts. Hypnosis did the job.
    I don’t smoke and I I don’t drink.I think people who get drunk look like berks and I do not want to look like a berk. As for smoking I hate the STINK of it. People can walk past me and they REEK of it, YUK. Kiss a non smoker and taste the difference I say.
    P.S I don’t count an occasional single glass of red wine to be drinking :)

  • ngatimozart

    I agree with your submission. The MOH is so full of bureaucrats it’s not funny. They all look after themselves. It appears to be endemic across the government service, ngo’s and lobyists. I found a sculpture in Adelaide which is an absolute gem of a statement. It was a pig feeding out of a trough. Unfortunately I can’t post a copy of the photo here. Maybe you could set up something so we can post photos.

  • giblet

    Was your submission filmed? Is there a news item we can view and enjoy please.