National raises taxes again

Tonight the government has used extraordinary urgency, not to ditch the ETS, but to raise taxes yet again. Again on tobacco under the pretext that they are trying to stop people from smoking and as a sop to the Maori Party. The highest tax increases were also on loose tobacco, socking the poorest even more.

Tobacco tax goes up 10 per cent from midnight, raising the price of a pack of 20 cigarettes by about a dollar to around $11, and two more hikes are in the pipeline.

The Government brought the legislation to Parliament under extraordinary urgency today and it will go through all its stages, putting in place three excise duty increases of 10 per cent – one at midnight, the next on January 1 next year and the third on January 1 2012.

Loose tobacco used by pipe smokers and to make roll your own cigarettes is being socked with a 14 per cent increase immediately to bring it into line with cigarettes.

Associate Health Minister Tariana Turia, a strong anti-smoking campaigner, introduced the bill and said the debate on it was going to be about life and death.

Shane Bradbrook saving Maori smokers at the Taj MahalThis is of course not at all about life and death, it is simply about taxing people who are addicted to a legal product and freely chose to suck into their lungs. If it was truly about life and death then the Government would have made cigarettes illegal and unable to be sold in New Zealand and classified tobacco as a Class A drug. As they didn’t do that it is only about revenue.

The National party used to be about personal responsibility and freedom of choice, now it is nothing more than a nanny-statist over-lord deciding what is and isn’t good for you.

Shane Bradbrook saving Maori smokers at the White HouseOnly the congenitally stupid amongst us would willingly take up smoking given all the available information about the deleterious health effects. The fact that in the past 5 years the numbers of smokers has remained constant at about 700,000 people shows that previous tax increases are meaningless, especially to the truly stupid of this country.

Since the government are going to raise taxes I thought I might share with just where those taxes will probably be going. The increased taxes will go to more Maori troughers, like Shane Bradbrook,  intent on spending as much of the poor addicted tobacco users cash as humanly possible on themselves, carting their useless arses around the sights of world so they can un-furl protest flags and promote the palestinian cause by wearing a keffiyah at the same time.These pictures are from his state-funded tours around the world saving Maori smokers, in India at the Taj Mahal, in the Washington DC and in Tokyo.

Shane Bradbrook saving Maori smokers in TokyoIt is kind of ironic that Shane Bradbrook identifies closely with Palestinians because there are huge similarities between palestinians and Maori especially when it comes to troughing and grievances. Maori are still wailing over injustices perpetrated more than 100 years ago, palestinians are still creating greivances and living in refugee camps. Maori suck massively off the public tit and palestinians suck massively off the UN. The longest running welfare system in the world is the UNDP mission to Gaza, sucking literally billions of dollars off the world and giving it to palestinians as “aid”. The fact that the money has not made one single zak of difference to them escapes almost everyone, and Maori have had millions spent on them trying to stop them being fatties aand smokers and that too hasn’t made a zak of difference. Palestinians and Maori are perhaps the biggest beneficiaries and aggrieved peoples in the world and yet they will not make personal choices that will stop them from getting the same deal. Palestinians won;t stop chucking bombs, rocks, missiles and bullets at Israel and Maori won’t stop chugging on booze, quaffing vast quantities of poor quality food and puffing up large on as many ciggies as they can get their hands on.

Shane Bradbrook saving Maori smokers in WashingtonThe pity is that this measure won’t do a thing except increase the power of the gangs in New Zealand’s poorest neighbourhoods and make tobacco a much more profitable drug to sell illegally than even methamphetamine. This measure is only making larger profits for gangs and smaller profits for legal tobacco companies. Chinese tobacco merchants will be making a killing.

Politicians lie when they say this is to pay for the cost of smoking. The Smokefree Coalition and the Cancer Society provide figures that show that revenue from excise taxes on tobacco raise more than $900 million per annum and the government spends about $250 million on smoking related health costs. Smokers, unlike the rest of New Zealand society actually pay their own way. We should be giving these folk medals for killing themselves before they take a pension. New Zealand benefits economically from having smokers in every-way.

National disgusts me. They have betrayed their founders, their constitution and their own beliefs. It seems that this country no longer believes in personal freedoms or personal choice and no longer believes in personal responsibility for ones own actions. It is all about the state and what it believes is best for you.

  • michaels

    CUNTS

  • glenn

    Just a few days ago I was thinking, “Gee, all this talk about excise tax on alcohol recently, yet nobody’s said anything about us poor, embattled smokers. When was tobacco tax last increased? We must be due for another hike.”

    And lo, like an angel descending from heaven on a shaft of sunlight, we get shafted.

    We smokers aint gonna stop smoking, our choice. I do like your comments about not drawing a pension; though I’ll probably not make it that far anyway for health reasons totally unrelated to tobacco.

    I’m a bit blase about excise increases. I sorta expect them every year. Just another sign that this country is going to hell in a handcart.

    I recently did a little intellectual exercise which I encourage all of you to do at home. Figure out How Much of your gross income goes in paying taxes. Consider PAYE, GST, Excise and any other tax you can think of. For each thing you buy, think about what proportion of the ticket price is tax content. Think up the supply chain also.
    For me it’s about 72%, +- about 5 points, as close as I can figure. (special circumstances, maybe)

    (Sigh). I think I’ll nip outside with my glass of wine for a fag.

  • monty

    I am pleased about increased taxes on tobacco. For starters it does not affect me except that probably more people will give up which means more old poor people being parasites off the state longer. But for now – well although addictive if smokers want to they can give up. Or remain poor. Maybe giving up smoking will allow the lower classes to pay their way more like school fees, or actually feed their kids.

    It is a generalisation – but poor people smoke – they are idiots but as cactus said on red alert – “excellent – regressive tax” could not agree more.

  • strykerman

    Sorry monty (and national), but the majority of people getting taxed form this increase is the 44% of maori children who’s parents smoke.

  • oldtimer

    A smart business would start selling home tobbacco indoor growing systems,could call them selves the switched on gardener.

  • scanner

    Another sop to the Brown Mafia, come on John man up and get off your knees, you are starting to look pathetic.

  • inventory2

    What Monty said. Growing up with a mother who smoked 40+/day from as long ago as I can remember until she died conditioned me. I detest smoking. I am generally against increases in taxation, but not this one. Kudos to the 118 MP’s who supported the passage of this legislation.

  • crabby

    Just more ostrich legislation…

    Im going to grow some tobaccy and sell to people I dont like. :P

  • michaels

    A thought has come to mind…… strange but true……

    John Key’s best new mates the racist party said last night that prices would be going up straight away so people wouldn’t stock pile… (like we could at that price anyway)…. however…. The tabacco companies are the one’s that actually pay the tax’s not the retailer. So the retailer has already bought his stock so the Indian in the corner dairy is going to make a few extra coin for a while. Prices should go up at the retailer when he gets new stock in.
    refer my first comment

  • crabby

    the racist party… so true Michaels

  • michaels

    When will John Key and his mates, The Racist Party, ban me from smoking in my own home? He can’t be far away, I’m sure he’s lost a few marbles in the last couple of years…… My only problem is who to replace him with… And that people is the BIG problem. Even Rodders has lost the plot of late, must have something to do with those BMW’s.

  • pita

    I expect there will be a run on the food banks…

  • robf

    The Government has to balance between the Billion dollar tax take and their stated claim of stopping people from smoking. The first priority has to be to maintain the Tax revenue; this is obviously in conflict with the stated aim of reducing the number of smokers. Of which they have no idea of how many there are, how convenient, good if you don’t want to be seen to have failed in your stated objective. What they do know, down to the last cent, is how much revenue smoking brings in. The balancing act is for the tax increase to offset the possible drop in revenue, so at the very least the Tax take stays neutral, but preferably increase. Once the quitters come back into the fold everybody in the food chain will be making more money.

    Why under extraordinary urgency to stop people from hoarding a few cartons and saving a few dollars then announce future increases in advance. Sounds like a publicity stunt to me, did any one see the crocodile tears.

    Yes a group will give up smoking but, due to the nature of their addiction, the vast majority will start again. Net result, more Tax for a greedy Government and more opportunity for the Maori party’s criminal relatives, to make money on the cigarette black market.

    Personally I don’t smoke and every dollar a smoker pays in tax is a dollar the rest of us don’t have to pay. If you have a problem and the answer is to tax, it then it has to be a Con. See climate Con.

    And still 5000 people will die each and every year from smoking related illnesses.

  • robf

    The treaty claim on this one is going to be a goody. Tobacco related deaths must far outweigh anything else the white mother Fxxxers have done to maori.

  • michaels

    If the death rate doesn’t reduce to say “4000″ a year will they reverse the tax hike??

    HAHAHAHAHHHEHEHEHEHAHAHA

  • michaels

    The ugly photos of Helen Clark on the packets did nothing to reduce smoking so how on earth do they think this will???

  • naylor

    Key is on his knees after being spanked by the Maori Party once again. Bit like Trevor Mallard’s favorite position, but I digress.

    National was meant to be against tax increases but has lost its way and following the path of Helen Clark in telling everyone how they should live.

    As for this complete loser Shane Bradbrook, what a cunt, travelling around the world showing off to everyone Maori bro that he’s ripped off the taxpayer and proud of it. He should be arrested and forced to pay back the money he has ripped off the taxpayer. What a crook.

  • chiefsfan73

    I can tell the tax hike is a bad idea, Rudd has announced just such an increase over here today. It is a pretty good rule of thumb, that no Labour Government can introduce good legislation. Therefore by doing the same National are looking pretty stupid right now. In England the massive hikes imposed on tabakky by Comrade Brown, has lead to a massive increase in black market chop chop. Kids being sent on paid holidays to mainland Europe to smuggle back the stuff. A tax hike only fuels illicit trade and in the end even more younger kids will become addicted. Do you think someone selling it illegally cares how old the buyer is.

    Key really needs to pick up his game, or risk being appearing to be a slightly less manly looking version of Helen Clark