A.C.C. doing a Fidelity Life

Madeleine Flannagan denied ACCMadeleine Flannagan has a shocking story about her treatment at the hands of ACC. The story is hauntingly like my battle with Fidelity Life.

The tactics are strikingly similar. Dodgy practitioners giving dodgy diagnosis to suit insurers. In her case a retired orthopedic surgeon by the name of Brian Otto. In my case it was three doctors in the pay of Fidelity Life, Dr Anthony Asteraidis, Prof. Des Gorman and Psychologist Ralf Schnabel. In both of our cases the reports of these charlatans bear no resemblance to reality and yet the insurance companies rely upon their dodgy medically un-supported diagnoses to get rid of troublesome clients.

It is high time that there was a parliamentary inquiry into the practices of all insurance companies in New Zealand, including ACC. the inquiry should focus on how insurance companies deal with long-term clients and their removal from their books, the processes used to remove them from the books.

A look through ACCForums should be enough to give any politician the colly-wobbles with how ACC and private insurers are operating here. To my mind their predatory practices are far worse than any action by Banks, and we have had inquiries in to them and their business activities.

The bright light of an inquiry should be focused on the insurance industry. Right now it is up to individuals to get the wherewithal together to sue them to bring them to account. The insurance companies know that few of their clients can afford to do this and so they keep on smashing people around.

The Insurance Ombudsmen has the threshold so low as to be useless, and before you can even get their you have to get the insurance company to declare that the issue is “deadlocked”. People’s lives re being dramatically affected. Worse still nearly all of these insurance companies are also offering up Kiwisaver accounts, with no declaration on where their substantial funds are being invested.

Lobby your MP for an investigation in to ACC and insurance companies.

  • toby

    Whilst I have sympathy for people who get shat on by ACC and insurance companies, I just cannot take seriously anything said by Madeleine Flan­na­gan. Or Mad Flange as I like to refer to her. She’s mad, you see.

  • http://www.mandm.org.nz Madeleine

    Thanks Cam. You are not wrong, the forums are crawling with people like us. There absolutely should be an inquiry, I would happily work with the opposition parties if it meant the spotlight would get shone on this rort.

  • dave

    Cam – although I was aware Otto was the culprit in Madeleine’s case, I had no idea that Des Gorman was your culprit. He’s bad news. I did a series on scoop a few years ago on ACC. Seems nothing has changed – heres part of that series….
    http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0210/S00160.htm
    http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0210/S00164.htm
    http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0210/S00196.htm
    http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0302/S00205.htm
    http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0302/S00193.htm
    http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0302/S00151.htm

  • steve

    Toby, you can have sex and travel. Fuck off.

    I too have been through the mill with the inactions and bullshit from ACC. I have been screwed by the degenerative excuse as have many others.
    Try six months with no income toby. Kicked off the ACC books and unable to work, living of my partner and daughter. No welfare from WINZ while ACC review is in process.
    How much are ACC paying you for services toby?

  • whalewatcher

    Medical reports are a no-win thing to do. You either upset your customer (the person paying the bill), or the patient. To my mind, there is a real conflict in this situation, as it is not a normal doctor-patient relationship where the Dr should do his/her best for the patient. In Medical reporting, the Dr is not there to help or treat you, but to judge your case for a third party who also happens to be paying the bill – so subjectivity and bias can be alleged. Not a great position for a doctor to put himself in. To my mind, it is open to challenge.

    Unfortunately many docs who report are in their twilight career years. Especially so in the case of surgeons who may have decided to stop operating, and are often 30-plus years from their sub-specialty training. They will have usually kept up-to-date with conferences, medical literature, etc, but are now judging their peers or patients from a position of being almost past their ‘use-by’ date. Once a surgeon has stopped operating and practising, to continue to do medical reports in the ‘twilight years’ is to function on the fringe of the field. If it goes on too long (and it has in some instances in the past), someone is out-of-date in their knowledge and irrelevant, but still influencing patient outcomes or peer disciplinary outcomes. Not a worthy cause.

    It is a thankless task, medical reporting.

  • fredbanks

    re medical reporting, reports done by docs for 3rd parties are immune from scrutiny by the medical council so if a doctor was to contradict 11 docs to satisfy a brief from ACC/Insurer there is no challenge except to one intelligence,my case; insurers clinician evaluates me sitting down and says ive perfect balance and gait, he contradicts my cardiologist and neurologist and talks of my temporary quadralysis as a’trivial concussion’.my MRI which shows spinal damage is ommitted from report to allow a ‘new diagnosis’ of psychobable’itis’ i dont think he was unthanked by the insurance company..oh. i just noticed it was same company cam was screwed by and fk me..it was same schnabel..what a coincidence

  • toby

    “Toby, you can have sex and travel. Fuck off.”

    Aww steve, why are you so upset? Because I don’t like your mate?

  • http://www.mandm.org.nz Madeleine

    “I highly rec­om­mend all ACC claimants ask for an IT sweep to be done on your name and case num­ber”

    Do I phone ACC and ask for an “IT sweep”? I want to be clear on how precisely I go about this.