There'd be a queue a mile long

A secondary schoolteacher in the UK has become the first to be struck off for life for incompetence.

Nisar Ahmed was found to lack the “basic skills” of anyone entering the teaching profession by a General Teaching Council (GTC) disciplinary panel which believed he was incapable of ever improving.

The queue here if this was ever implemented would start with the head of the PPTA and NZEI and have a very, very long tail.

Hell half my teachers would have “qualified” as lacking basic skills of anyone entering the teaching profession, most being cowards and bullies hiding in the schooling system. Some are even principals now and heads of department.

I had teachers that rarely turned up for class, and when they did abused us all for being thickies. Ones who skited that they could kick a rugby ball over the goal posts in gumboots from halfway, but strangely couldn’t teach accounting. One who would cane the whole class first class of the year to teach us all what would happen of we crossed him (He was also an ex-Speaker’s brother). One who sung in the Dorian Choir, had a body like a half sucked throatie and the demeanor of a creepy little man and a penchant for caning below the shorts or around the kidneys. One who used us as slave labour at his house when we were on detention. One who wrote on my school reportA splendid exam result achieved with little obvious effort” and who was a PPTA agitator and constantly abused me for my fathers politics and who tried desperately to scale my results so I wouldn’t be the top of the class. One who used to throw chalk dusters or chunks of chalk at us and make some hold it in their mouth, dusty side down as a punishment.

My memories of teachers are far from fond. Some are still there in the system with all their latent nastiness. The only saving grace is that they can no longer send for the cane. Instead they will be bullying and destroying through their words.

  • orange

    I loved my teachers. It’s a priviledge to work with them now as an adult.

    • cadwallader

      Orange, they didn’t teach you to spell! A “d” in privilege. Phuck off!

      • orange

        I’m not an English teacher wally.

        • toby

          So what? By the time you reach adulthood you should be able to spell such common words as ‘privilege’.

          Did you fail school or did school fail you? Either way, you’re now a part of the problem. Just another barely competent teacher (I assume this is the profession you were alluding to).

      • orange

        Actually the only thing I really didn’t like about school was a couple of bullies. Hopefully over time they grew up.

  • nasska

    Add a paragraph here, change a sentence there & you have the life of a boarding school pupil in a shithole Christian boarding school during the mid 60′s not 40Km south from where you’re sitting. Two decades prior to your experiences & even now, 45 years later, little has changed. Maybe teaching is the natural refuge of the incompetent bitter & twisted arsewipes we have had the misfortune to encounter.

  • becn

    voting someone down because they’re a lucky bugger who had good teachers is pretty lame.

    Good one’s exist. Most are probably mediocre.

    And as with any industry, there will be some evil bastards that make themselves feel good by mistreating and tormenting those weaker than them. Unfortunately – that has a bigger impact when they get a job in schools than as a farmer or fisherman. But then again – those industries would probably give a kicking to bullies like that so i guess teaching looks good

  • alchemyst

    Teaching, like the police and military, can attract those that are nasty, power hungry bullies… however there are many teachers out there that give more of a crap than most parents! I am always saddened by anyone who has had a bad experience with a teacher (as I have too), however don’t tar them all with the same brush.

    My personal experience, as an ex-teacher, was that there were more teachers (or correctly senior management and heads of department) that wanted to bully teachers under them than the students.

  • whalewatcher

    Orange, are you therefore a teacher? I trust you’re not in charge of spelling – the word is ‘privilege’ – no ‘d’

    Cam, I was lucky to avoid the meathead teachers (Barrett, Watts, etc), although I did have ‘Big Red’. He played in the Auckland side that beat the Lions in 1977. And he was a good Maths teacher, and cleaned up Tibbs’ House after the mess left by Henry.
    I was one of many who suffered at the tail-end of Graham Henry’s 3 or 4 year stint as head of Tibbs’ House. I have no respect for the supposed ‘great man’. He let the boarding house run itself like Lord of the Flies. I survived, but I believe many were badly affected for years.
    Poultney, Marshall, Patel, Moore, Farrell – all good.

    • orange

      A) I’m not an English teacher, B) Since when was spelling part of blog etiquette? Lame.

      • mediatart

        There are various spell checker ‘add ons’ to various browers. google them
        Turns you into a MA in English Literature in minutes

        • johnqpublic

          What’s a “brower”? Perhaps you ought to be taking your own advice there, Tart.

        • orange

          Sweet, thanks.

  • nasska

    @alchemyst.

    Undoubtedly there are good teachers who do a good job. The problem as I see it is the sheer number of jerks, abusers, misfits & semi psychopaths that seem to be drawn to teaching – why not plumbing or nursing?

    Once they are part of the professional clique they’re safe. Their co workers, bosses & (most of all} their cloth cap union will conceal & protect them.

    • alchemyst

      I believe that there are psychopaths in most professions (especially religious organisations). The PPTA is not the great protector that you might think that it is. For a teacher to get in serious trouble these PC days all it takes is for one (usually female) student to complain that a male (or even female) teacher has said, or looked at her in a sexual way and it’s all over for that teacher.

  • bigkev

    yea the high speed duster was my favourite used to piss the old coot off when he missed me, one eye on the board one eye on the duster, i was way to fast, imagine what some of these psychos would be like if there was still corporal punishment

  • P1LL

    my first form teacher would hit me with a closed fist in a downward strike on the top of my head . It would make my entire body go into spasms , like being electrically shocked.
    This was @ Bucklands Beach Intermediate in its first year. @ Pakuranga College I took Tech drawing but they had stuffed up teacher /class allocations so I had an English teacher reading from a text book trying to teach us :( this was over 30 years ago. It just goes to show how long we have been screwed by successive governments regarding education.

  • whalewatcher

    P1LL, time to press that assault charge. He could’ve killed you

  • cadwallader

    I was a boarder in the mid-60s through to 1970. I look back on the rum crew of teachers who schooled us. NB I say “schooled” rather than educated. Looking back they were predominantly bullies who seemed to resent life in general and would not have survived in a commercial world. Mind you, my generation were dumped in these cauldrons by our parents who took the attitude that if the teacher says it is right then it is right! My class had a 40 year reunion in 2006, of those who attended not one of us accepted that school was the “best days of our lives” and many of us felt our parents were bullied by the school authorities along with us. Today it amuses me that my sons’ school has a zero-tolerance for bullying yet the teachers are happy to bully taxpayers through strikes to better their conditions. I doubt the PPTA would appreciate the irony.

  • nigel201065

    P1LL,
    I to was at Bucklands Beach Intermediate about the same time as you I too was subjected to the scone by the same teacher i think his name was Tamati or something like that he was also quite fond of hitting people on the top of the head with text books, as for Pakuranga College my sixth form yr they stuck me in a maths class with someone who didn’t speak English!!! I went from an average of 75% to 30% and i think only 2 people in the whole class passed UE second yr I got Mr Mills great teacher I shot up to an average of 78%, so yes I believe teachers can be payed on performance and some teachers should be sacked for being either incompetent or just plain bullies

    • cadwallader

      “Payed?”

      The thing that really pisses me about teachers is their claim they are a profession. My understanding is that a profession is a self-disciplined body of operatives who manage their common affairs under the umbrella of a Code of Ethics/Conduct. (eg Dentistry, Law, Medicine.) Not teachers, they generally suck on the public teat and whine like stuck piglets if those who pay, (the taxpayers) seek any degree of accountability. They are simply public servants who are allowed to torture their charges. I recall years ago, Lindsay Perigo labeling them “The Child Molesters Of The Mind!”

  • Blondie

    Some teachers are pretty shit, to be honest. I frequently corrected my Bursary economics teacher, cos he wasn’t apparently able to copy out of the textbook without mucking it up.

    On the other hand, some teachers really go over and above their call of duty. A male relative of mine found this with his English teacher, who gave him extra-curricular tuition in sex-ed. Apparently she was pretty hot,

  • P1LL

    @nigel201065
    His name was Mr tiamana I think ?

  • nigel201065

    P1ll,
    yes you are right both me and my brother had run ins with this thug
    As for Pakuranga College half he teachers were amazing but the other half were totally useless