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Compare and Contrast – The caring Left of New Zealand

by Whaleoil on November 29, 2010

The anonymous cowards at The Standard are big on ad hominen attacks, especially against me. They are also class A hypocrites.

None more so than the anonymous paid lap-blogger MartyG. Just four days ago he wrote a lengthy post about how evil the report from  the Welfare Working Group was. (Note too, I have the courtesy to link, something they have a policy not to do).

The report harps on about 338,000 working age people getting benefits as if these are all fit, young people who just can’t be arsed getting a job.

Of course, we know the truth is different:

85,000 are invalids, meaning they have severe physical or mental disabilities

58,000 are sick and are required to have medical certificates to prove it (if people are getting certificates they shouldn’t be, that’s not a reason to get rid of the benefit, it’s a problem with GPs)

112,000 are raising young children alone…..

And on and on and on.

Yet when he wants to mount an attack on me all of a sudden the very same people he is sticking up for are now all of a sudden “beneficiary bludgers”. Words that most likely he would be expecting me to use but don’t. This is classic socialism mouthpieces in action. Pretend to be all caring for “other people” but when it suits, the real person comes crawling out from under the rock. Instead of attacking my ideas, they attack my mental health, or my welfare status or even more bizarrely they try to attack me by using silly epithets like “Daddy’s Boy”. Their message is laughable from that point on. It is especially laughable since my father barely speaks with me or to me and only when he has to. They behave as petulantly as he does.

MartyG is a coward. He won’t own his own bullshit and he for sure won’t say anything of the sort to my face. Instead he sits there in the EPMU, the Goffice or the Labour research unit and dreams shit up. Know too now that the left really doesn’t care about anyone other than their greedy troughing selves.

Fuck you MartyG and those other anonymous c*nts that live with you in your ivory tower that you pretend to call a blog. I wouldn’t wish my health issues/troubles on even you lot. What a bunch of c*nts.

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  • http://zerorocketlaunchers.blogspot.com/ Infinity

    A) Sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind. The right understands that. Having a job means more than not living off the taxpayer, it’s a way of life, a reason to get out of bed in the morning, etc, etc.

    B) They don’t care. Dole folk are their constituents. Hard core Labour folk, them. And they need to keep them in a permanent state of fear of the right in order to keep them voting for Labour. Politicians are politicians. Hell, at least Winston is obvious about it.

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  • nasska

    Every blog has & needs it’s hard core followers. It is accepted that since the Standard recruits it’s readers from the left a lower level of cognizance has to be expected but surely even they can see the double standards. Poor unfortunates or irredeemable bludgers……….. it all depends on the story being currently told.

    It seems no independent logic is required. Hang up your brain in the turnip shed, join Labour & let Phil & Co do your thinking for you.

  • lance

    That’s the first post I’ve read from the Standard. Bloody boring writing. It’s the last I’ll read.

    However I have to pull you up – you said:

    “Instead of attack­ing my ideas, they attack my men­tal health, or my wel­fare sta­tus or even more bizarrely they try to attack me by using silly epi­thets like “Daddy’s Boy”.

    Actually they quite clearly attack your ideas.This paragraph is clearly in opposition to your ‘ideas’ that the whole disaster was the fault of ‘greenies:

    Quote Let’s be clear: DoC and the Minister said ‘you can have the coal if you minimise the damage to the environment and here are our restrictions’. It was up to the company to decide whether it could and would mine safely within those limits, and up to the Department of Labour to ensure satefy standards were met. DoC isn’t in the business of deciding what is and isn’t safe mining, it’s in the business of protecting our natural heritage. And, regardless, opencast mining wasn’t an option. End Quote

    Also WO complaining about people using ad hominem attacks and insults is pretty absurd coming from you. It’s a tactic you employ regularly. Albeit with a lot more pizzaz than these Standard guys.

  • adrian

    Can it be true? Whale Oil accusing others of ad hominem attacks and of hypocrisy in the same breath?

  • tazirev

    mmm, you are being a little bit precious here sweetie, if you dish it out you have to be prepared to wear it when the fan starts up.

  • animalmother

    I think the point the whaleman is making is that he puts his name to his attacks on their worthless arses, while they hide behind aliases (like what I’m doing now).

    That, and the fact that lefties are cunts. oops.

  • cadwallader

    The difference is that WO rebukes openly, aptly, in a timely manner and employs outrageously good humour.

    On the rare occasions I have plumbed the depths of the Standard I have found it to be (inter-alia)
    a Lacking in humour;
    b Lacking in perception;
    c Sarcastic;
    d Caustic;
    e Envy ridden;
    f Slanderous;
    g Unsubstantiated.

    If the Lefties could lighten up they’d at least be entertaining and may ultimately see the error in their beliefs.

  • http://zerorocketlaunchers.blogspot.com/ Mr. Infinity

    Censorship also seems to be a the new tactic of the left. Years of right appeasement, ignorance of the great standards set by the Ronald Reagan’s and Margaret Thatcher’s on how to be a conservative, and how it benefits the country, have created dependent nations all around the world and a left that can get away with anything. And violating one of the core principals of most nation’s bill of rights or constitution, freedom of speech, is the new tactic of the left.

    You see it on Red Alert and the Standard, the electoral finance act, and the Democrats in the ‘States with their “fairness doctrine”. They’re getting away with murder and it’s a shame not to see anyone doing anything about it.

  • thor42

    The WWG report was great! I only hope that Key and his mates will implement as many of the recommendations as possible. For f**k’s sake, that’s why the Nats were elected in the first place – to get rid of Toxic Helen and her theft of our wallets via the IRD, as well as her doing F**K-ALL about benefit-dependency.

    If Key and co implement (say) half a dozen or more of the recommendations, they’ll be guaranteed to stay in power for the next ten years or so. Heck, by bringing in the reforms, they’ll win a **shitload** more votes than they’ll lose.