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Isn’t it interesting?

by Whaleoil on November 17, 2011

Isn’t it interesting that the media are more interested in an 8 minute conversation in a cafe than in a two month long orchestrated campaign of vandalism, illegal promotor statements and coordination within a major political party.

Isn’t it interesting that the media who are supposed to hold politicians to account won’t the Old Age Pensioner from St Mary’s Bay why he hasn’t paid back the $158,000 his party stole? Instead they laud and promote him.

Isn’t it interesting that media commentators who have opinions of their own on MMP get upset and launch a personal crusade when the Prime Minister expresses his own opinion?

Isn’t it interesting that the media is ignoring a referendum and instead has a minor leaders debate that asks them if they support the system that delivered them to parliament?

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  • MANINBLACK

    its not interesting. its just so completely fucked. the MSM are a pack of cunts.

  • Petal

    To be honest Cam, if it wasn’t for the fact that this country is a paradise in so many other ways, I’d probably move to another one.  But anyone who doesn’t admit that this country is a banana republic with the thinnest veneer of Developed Word is deluded. 

    The problem remains – move where?  Everywhere you go is a mixed bag.

    I no longer watch TV or read any MSM material except what bleeds through on the car radio or through a few blogs.  

    And to be honest, if you could just do me a favour and quit blogging, I can get rid of my one and only media addiction! 
    :)

  • Evan Johnson

    All would be “interesting” to right wing commentators I guess Cameron.  It would indeed to be true to say that John Key’s crucial mistake to engage in 8-minutes of tea drinking has caused him no end of grief, which he chooses to prolong.  

    The vandalism coordinated by Green Party member would be of similar interest if the Greens were in government. 

    MMP is widely seen as the fairest system and it is supported by fair-minded people.  So when the Prime Minister backs SM – promoted by prominent people of the extreme right, we want to know why.  He says he likes the characteristics of it meaning the ability to get absolute power with a minority vote I guess.  Its a matter of public interest that one.  

    • Anonymous

      I love your emotive verbiage. “fairest system”, “fair minded people”, newsflash, life’s not fair.

  • Quintin Hogg

    I’ve always wondered who holds the media to account.  They hold every one else to account but not themselves

    • Roger de Laborde

      Part of the issue is that the media have interpreted freedom of the press (a good thing) to mean that they can act without accountability as they see fit (a bad thing).

      And any criticism of them no matter how valid results in a righteous indignation of “how dare you question us”.

      Freedom of the Press does not make the media a law unto themselves and they need to realise that.

      The other problem is I think the media over here are looking with envy at the fireworks that American politics generate,, and want to try and build the same level of controversy here (as it sells more papers)

  • Anonymous

    What is interesting?
    People expressing there distaste for the anti smacking legislation which has achieved nothing.
    People expressing there preference for the Parliament to be reduced to 100.
    Why bother with referendums if you are not going to pay any attention to them.
    Why not ask the electorate if we really want or need race based seats that distort the proportionality of Parliament.
    Wondering who our Politian’s are really representing and what they really think about issues.
    Is it any wonder that people are tuning out and changing the channel?

  • Guest

    Someone should quickly upload the recording to Wikileaks!

  • Jaffa

    Can we secretly record Goff when he has lunch with someone, and play it back in the media?

  • Evan Johnson

    Given that the 8 minutes was bland chat between a couple of mates, what is this I read about police search warrants being issued – on Radio NZ if you please!  Is this now a police state?  And what use will the search be – there will already be dozens of transcripts all over the place.  

    This issue has been taken up by international media and its not looking very good!!

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10766608

    • Bob

      The problem is that these media hacks don’t get to choose which laws they follow, if it was that interesting or important they should have the courage to publish and accept the consequences. But they are running chicken scared and are hoping they can cower the PM into giving his permission to let them off the hook… tough shit, they should man up or STFU.

      Bob

  • kevin

    Yep, priorities.

  • Eric

    So, we have a system where the present PM orchestrates a public meeting with a non-elected member of another political party – for their own benefit. they then go on to talk about whatever, who cares, and they fail to realise the whole set-up is about as secure as a marshmallow, so that when a recording turns up later the PM spits the dummy and refuses to answer legitimate questions from interested voters (yes, the media people are allowed to vote as well!) then the police are involved – excuse me! Key attempts to compare his little publicity stunt gone wrong with the crimes comitted by a UK newspaper breaking into private citizens voicemail systems - really, what a total moron.
    Yes, we need media reporters that are prepared to stand up to the bullying and intiomidating such a pathetic excuse for a PRIME MINISTER we presently have to endure - I sincerely hope New Zealanders wake up and realize just what a loser this guy is before we end up with him slipping back into office. 

    • Callum

      Hate to point out the obvious here Eric but it was made blatantly clear to all present it was a private conversation when the media were kicked out after their question session in order for the two Johns to have a private conversation….
      The tactics used are linked to NotW in that the media are trying to use an illegally obtained recording for their own commercial benefit, based on the questions they are asking they are trying to indicate to the public what may have been said in order to avoid prosecution for actually disclosing the contents of the tape. If it really is all that important to the public then man up and publish it.

      • Cccinfo

        Callum – If they wanted to have a private conversation then they should have gone somewhere private. It was a staged media event. To expect the media to cover only the aspects JK &JB wanted and then to go away nicely was unrealistic.

        • Evan Johnson

          I think either John Key or John Banks might have been able to make a pot of English Breakfast tea in their own kitchen.  Just a fairly easy stroll from Parnell to Remuera.

      • Eric

        Hi Callum – I just cannot accept that these two politicians can honestly claim confidentiality over an event so obviously engineered to be public. Then, for the PM to firstly refer it to the police, and then to absolutely refuse to answer any questions relating to it arguing that this is of no interest to the public is complete nonsense.
        Forget the gravity of the conversation, the whole issue has since turned – now we have the PM making decisions on the fly about which questions HE deems are important – thwere goes your free press! From this moment on New Zealand is a country where it’s leaders decide what the citizens will hear.

  • First time caller

    And the MSM are so stupid, they haven’t worked out that another day goes by that their Labour mates can’t get a headline about asset sales…And instead we have Key repeating 100 times that he’s focussing on what matters to NZers. Beautiful

  • Paulus

    The media have for some time been dismayed that they could not control the country, like Helen Clark did. Now they have a Tall Poppy to chop, in order to let everybody know who really runs the country – THEY DO, and don’t forget it.

    But people who shovel shit uphill some get it all over themselves. MSM – keep up shovelling.

    I really do not care a “f…” what is on the tape – its a sideshow.

    Labour have not had a look in since. If I was Goff I would be really pissed off.

  • diabolos

    Key cares a F….. whats on the tape – the plods are going to execute search warrants.

    Guess it may not be a sideshow – or else Key is really “Sideshow Bob”

  • MrV

    Saw this link the other day, it really makes sense and explains the psyche and mentality of Espiner, Gower, Garner et al.

    http://pressthink.org/2011/08/why-political-coverage-is-broken/

  • Javis

    It must be hard being a Nat-tard right now, having to defend someone so hopelessly inept, (Keytarded is the term NZers are using). It’s obvious to most that he dug this grave. This must be how fundamentalist Christians feel when confronted with dinosaurs. Poor fools!

  • Gazzaw

    ‘Nat-tard’, ‘Keytarded’ ? I haven’t heard them before Javis (or should that be Mavis?). Are you sure you are not making this up? 

    • Javis

      What you haven’t heard of could fill a warehouse.

  • derp

    you’re just fucking jealous you don’t have a copy of the tapes yet

    • Javis

      Like! He’s too busy listening to P-Money and eating cheezwhiz.

  • Evan Johnson

    It does not matter if the tapes are published or not published .. except that teh public will be hanging on every word of Winston Peters to see what they can find out!!!

    NZ First will be well over the threshhold on 26 November which we should all welcome.  IT is good to preserve the number of parties in the house and with ACT now likely to be on their bicycle ..

    • EJ is dumb

      lol people actually trust Winnie?