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Labour stacks worm panel

by Whaleoil on November 21, 2011

David Farrar has what could well be the scoop of the election. Labour plants stacked in TV3′s worm panel.

The panel/studio worm has been pretty consistent all night. If Phil Goff says anything it goes up. I joked on Twitter that Goff could confess to the Crewr murders and the panel worm would go up.

I wondered why, as this was meant to be a panel of undecided voters.

Then I saw this tweet from John Kingi, about being a worm panelist. A couple of friends of his seem to be there also.

Now John Kingi is a vocal Labour Party activist. He is about as undecided a voter as Phil Goff is.

TV3 have had their panel infiltrated by one or more Labour activists. Either TV3 failed to ask people if they were genuinely undecided voters, or they were lied to. I hope the media investigate this thoroughly before reporting on the results of the worm.

The funny thing is though that even Labour plants hate Winston Peters.

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  • Agent BallSack

    Worm was suspiciously biased, Garner not so much. New respect for Paul Henry! :O Labour lost it IMO when Phil said he would work with anyone who could show him what the baubles of power felt like.

  • kevin

    2008 we had blogs, 2011 we have added tweets… love the new media.

  • Cadwallader

    Goff was his usual befuddled loser-self. The crux was his inability to discount working with Winston First…if there’s no Winston in the house Labour does not get to raise a government. (Academic anyway.)

  • DONKEY

    I fucking knew it – posted that exact thought on Facebook – what a joke. TV3 have a lot to answer on this one. That should be the end of the debates. I always thought John Campbell was a cock sucker but this is something else

  • JJ

    How suprising, thought my reactor app was broken. They only had to cut to Phil and the worm jumped up even tho he started pretty bad.
    Note to Phil: Red light on camera is the one that’s On Air.

  • Agent BallSack

    Who are the undecided and what planet do they live on? If you are undecided after 1 month of electioneering and 3 years of Government,why would I care about your opinion 5 days out from the election? The undecided don’t hold the balance of power, according to the polls, the people who vote National do. A bit of a have to rely on people who care so little about the state of Government’s view and rely on that as a static point.

    • Mully

      Dead right. I’m looking forward to just getting the visual pollution away from every green space..

  • http://twitter.com/RobCarrNZ Rob Carr

    Actually John Kingi has recently resigned his Labour party membership not long after he resigned from the YL exec last year by my understanding.

    • Guest

      And that’s why he follows every labour candidate on twitter?

      Yeah right.

    • Alex (not the Leftist twat)

      What a pointless post: so he’s now “an undecided voter”.  Yeah right.

    • Guest

      Funny twitter tells me that he is similar to various Labour organizations when I view his profile. Just saying.

    • Anonymous

      Respectfully, pull your head out of your ass!

    • Roger

      Oh right and he suddenly became uncommitted. Yeah Right

  • bruno32

    Full credit to Paul Henry. Put that little creep campbell in his place,blew the tapeworms cover  and even had garner slobbering like a chubby adolescent schoolboy.

  • mickysavage

    Desperate Cameron.  So there was a leftie in the crowd and this is evidence of bias.  On the panel there was an ex National candidate who lost to the first transvestite elected to Parliament in the world, a right wing hack and a green supporter and this was balance?

    Face it.  Key just got his ass handed to him on a plate.

    • Jester

      Sadly mickey, Labour needs Winston, the country hates Winston therefore the country will hate Labour on election day.

      Your only lifeline to power was exposed even by your own base as being unacceptable.

    • nellie

      Oooh Gregory are you implying losing to a transvesite is an especially bad thing? That’s not very caring and enlightened of you! I’d expect that sort of comment from some roaring bigot not someone who likes to call themselves ‘mickey savage’! Tisk tisk…

    • nekminnit1983

      Micky micky micky

      Try at least 4… .. see this updated by Farrar http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2011/11/so_much_for_a_panel_of_undecided_voters.html

      Total RIG up. it is meant to be UNDECIDED….not LABOUR HACKS LYING TO GET IN!

    • BJ

      Worm indicator – what a lot of sh**! The worm response was not going positive or negative over Goff but in response to the emotive words that evoked a negative or positive feeling.  As all he does is manipulate the naive and easily lead with emotive words so this ‘worm’ is geared to Goff. As John Key talked facts, which is what we needed to hear in this debate — the worm was never going to be a credible indicator. 

  • blitzem

    yea but what do ya xpect?
    labor voters are nothing more than worms anyway – always there to suk the goodness out of someone elses soil.
    a pox on all of them – especily that sanctamonious pinko with the big fukin ears!

  • Random Punter

    A few observations.

    Every time the camera switched to Mr Goff, the studio audience worm went up even before he said anything of substance.  Conversely, when it switched to Mr Key, it went down before he started to speak.

    By comparison, the home viewer worm mostly flatlined close to neutral throughout.

    The home viewer worm was shown for only a few minutes; the Goff-friendly studio audience worm predominated.

    At least four Labour Party election advertisements and at least three Green Party ones were screened during the ad breaks.  None for any of the other parties.

    Draw your own conclusions. 

    • mickysavage

      My conclusion is that Key got handed his ass on a plate.  He was flat, ill prepared and the lies started to show through.  Goff by comparison was the real deal.

      And how can you all claim bias when an ex Nat candidate was on the panel??  How can this happen??  Where was the ex Labour candidate??

      Face it.  Key lost and you are all spinning because you cannot believe it.

      • Agent BallSack

        hahaha 65 people who don’t give a fuck about the country makes a Labour victory!

      • kevin

        Granted Key was too polite, he let goff butt in too much and talk over him.

        • mickysavage

          Ok Kevin you have to be joking.  Goff had a strategy of not overtaking Key and it worked.  Key was an overbearing pillock and Goff was restrained and focussed.  Watch the tape again.

      • http://www.whaleoil.co.nz Whaleoil

        You are a shameless partisan hack who felches Cunliffe and is at every campaign meeting wearing a red shirt. your opinion is as tits as Goff’s memory for financial figures.

        • mickysavage

          And you are a shameless partisan hack who tells lies about the Labour Party all the time hoping that you can increase support for the tories.  Your bias is unmistakable.

          • http://www.whaleoil.co.nz Whaleoil

            What lies? Who said I should be impartial. I like bias. Bias is good. I refuse to pretend otherwise.

          • mickysavage

            So why accuse me of being a shameless partisan hack? Let me get this straight, you are permitted to be as biased as you want but if I express an opinion then you are justified in attacking me as a partisan hack?  Care to rethink?

          • Alex (not the Leftist twat)

            All those in favour of the motion that Micky is a partisan hack and an all round tard, say ‘Aye’

          • Phronesis

            Aye

          • Agent BallSack

            Aye

          • Anonymous

            9000 ayes from me ( using a labour tactic here)

          • Anonymous

            Aye

          • RightNow

            I’m still waiting to see if Mickey can list any lies…

          • Mort

            its his website, he can be as biased on it as he likes. Although I suppose that will be first law off to the GG when Labour next get into office… confiscation or shutting down of non approved propaganda sites

        • lovinthatchangefeeling

          That odious prick presland is brown nosing to Phil-in the Goof on Facebook

          “I was so proud of Phil Goff tonight. He was magnificent. He handed Key his ass on a plate. I am sure that many undecided voters made their mind up tonight to vote for a leader and a party that will actually lead and make the hard decisions”

          Looks like 3 more years of local community service obscurity for you princess.

      • Jester

        Micky,

        Just remember today mate. The day that Phil consigned Labours election chances to the shit heap. If only the person he needed the most wasn’t so hated by the voting public.

        Enjoy unemployment mate

      • Roger

        We’ll see on Saturday night micky. Suggest you up your meds on the day as the night will be a shocker for you. For you to win you need to be Winnie’s knob polisher – good luck, enjoy.

      • http://keepingstock.blogspot.com/ Inventory2

        What are these lies to which you refer micky? Do you mean the ones that Goff told on the Leighton Smith interview this morning?

        • Roger

          Talk about someone having their ass handed to them on a plate. Goff was savaged by Leighton Smith. Cun(t)life sent a boy to a man’s job and the boy blew by. 

      • Anonymous

        Greg, why is losing to a transvestite a bad thing?

  • john66

    The worm was a joke, as predicted it would lean left. And now confirmed that the panel of 65 so called ” uncommitted” voters were stacked with a left leaning audience.
    What was interesting was the,  analysis panel, not a leftie in sight.
     Paul Henry called it for Key.
    Political scientist, Therese Arseneau  (who used to be on Q&A), always gives an unbiased view point.
     She stated quite clearly that one treats the worm with “‘caution”, quoting Roy Morgan’s own Australian Director that the worm is only an “emotional device’ that responds to ‘nice words”
    Goff was obviously well schooled prior to the debate on how to use the nice words, child poverty, etc
    Arseneau also predicted that National will win with 48- 49% and could rule alone. She stated that under MMP to rule alone you don’t need to get over 50%. But what a shock to hear Garner claim that Key won the second half of the debate and the same man that hounded Key all last week over the Teapot crap, now predicting that Banks will win in Epsom !!

    • Agent BallSack

      Garner favours the left, so hardly unbiased. He called it a draw (wanting future plum interviews with the reigning PM Key), Paul called it right, Arseneau – ‘how did Paul keep from snickering’ went with a draw. this household still goes with N – PV, UF – EV.

  • http://twitter.com/pukeko60 Chris Gale

    whale, should the army just start putting complaints up @ TV3  The link is http://www.mediaworks.co.nz/Default.aspx?tabid=288

    Remember, injuries fade, death is temporary, but a lawsuit is forever :-)

  • The Truth

    Wah Wah Wah… Labour cheated… Its not fair…

    You are all a bunch of crybabies.

    The fact is that governments almost never get turned over after just one term. Key would have to do something spectacularly stupid to avoid winning by a comfortable margin. It will take more than 3 years for the rot to set in and for people to turn away from Key. This election has hinted at what is to come what with the polls indicating that people don’t entirely trust Key.

    But for now its better the devil you know and National will win the election easily with around 50% of the vote. Labour will get around 30%, Greens 10% with the others sharing the crumbs.

    The real interest on election night will be in Epsom and Ohariu and whether or not ACT and United Future survive. They could both be important for National’s future survival.

    • max_power

      The real interest on election night will be in Epsom and Ohariu

      Why? Only complete mentals think Key’s stupid cuppa was even necessary. Epsom voters already decided weeks ago, they’re only fucking with the pollsters when they ring cos they like to play the MSM like a violin and who wouldn’t, if you lived in Epsom. Banks will get in, no worries about that.

      Dunn? Don’t know. Hope so, for he’s the best Revenue Minister NZ has had for generations and the IRD is, now, an extraordinary example of best-practice in all sorts of things methods which if the SSC knew what it was doing would already be busily deploying all over the place up to and including other Ministers taking lessons from Dunne (and Ryall) as to how to run a really good shop. I’m well aware Liarbore people think that’s a very bad thing indeed. Personally, I don’t.

      Perhaps that’s because I’ve never been a teacher, an academic, nor a unionist.

      • The Truth

        Why? Because they will be close and could go either way unlike the general election which is a done deal.

        You are probably right about Epsom. I’m sure all the National voters will fall into line and elect Banks. Plus I think the lefties that tell pollsters they’ll vote for Goldsmith won’t do so on election day.

        Ohariu could be very close. I wouldn’t be surprised to see the National voters drop Shanks and fall in behind Dunn too. Public service cuts might end up hurting National in this electorate.

    • Alex (not the Leftist twat)

      Pray tell me why it is always incumbent on Key to earn “trust” and be guilty until proven innocent.  Yet we all have to start from the premise that Goff can be “trusted”?  The percentage who say they don’t trust Key is pretty much the same percentage that don’t vote National.  Funny that. 

      • The Truth

        Who said Goff can be “trusted”? The electorate don’t seem to be convinced certainly not enough to seriously consider voting him in.

        An incumbent is always judged on issues such as trust. Essentially the election is a referendum on the previous government and whether or not they have kept their promises. Key has certainly done enough to keep the electorate happy. I can just see the cracks starting to form.

    • Euan Rt

      Sir. This is not about politics anymore, this is about the truth; but then you wouldn’t know what that is – even your name is a lie. Shame on you. Crawl back into your hole.

    • Anonymous

        ” The fact is that governments almost never get turned over after just one term”   Labour did , 1975. As Muldoon said ” anything Rowling must be going downhill”

      same old same old..hehehe!

      • The Truth

        Great line from Muldoon.

        The only other time was Labour again 1957-60. A very unpopular government that introduced the Black Budget. They only scraped in in 1957 and were unceremoniously turfed out in 1960.

  • Alex (not the Leftist twat)

    Are we really surprised? Probably not worth worrying about really. I should imagine there were National party activists too — but sufficiently intelligent to not go blurting it on twitter.  The election has been decided, subject to no major bulls up from National or Labour.   This debate wouldn’t make a difference.  Both Key and Goff sounded fatigued.

  • Agent BallSack

    I don’t think the parties that will support National in the future even exist yet but there will be plenty of unemployed politicians from Labour that will cross the street and become the party members that will support National in 2014. No choice when you are elected by the populace but stabbed by your party.

    • Anonymous

      Agreed agent , I actually think labour has some promising young people for the future who are batting for the wrong side at the moment. when they grow up hopefully they will learn.I rate neigh neigh pretty highly , not just because I’d like to bang like a buick with a bent piston with her, she is a highly intelligent hard worker. Clearly working for the wrong party…IMHO..

      • Agent BallSack

        And she would be so sexy in blue…heheh

  • MrV

    Could Labour get more desperate?

  • greenmuppet

    I think consensus here is that the worm is rigged by the labour supporters. Pretty obvious the worm was preemptively responding to the camera focus change rather than to the substance. 

    Well or wrong, there is only one way to find out. Come Nov 26! I’ll get my popcorn ready.

    Micky and Kosh, you might wanna get rid of your ipads well in advance and reinvest into the medicine that will provide you with long lasting pain relief. I believe you call it chardonnay. 

  • Bryan

    the worm wont matter its the flyer to the mothers that has them screaming about How did they get my address!!!! stuff is flooded with ladies complaining they are really angry and we used to say 90% of buying decisons in the home are decided by Mum  so labour has just really shot themselves in the foot,and when the women turn their back forget it. The opening statement of
    “you won’t be there is see your children reach 1 year” really scared many     just stupid flyer.

    • Agent BallSack

      Women are paranoid about surreptitious communication. Ask any guy that lets his missus use his cell phone.

  • Kosh103

    LMAO – christ the right are scared that the worm might influence people to vote for Labour, the party that should be the Govt.

    • Anonymous

      more than 70% of NZ doesn’t agree with you dude,( whatever poll you look at ) care to reconsider ?

      • Anonymous

        Fuck its 1.40 am, im still in the office time to go home goodnight all

      • Kosh103

        No.

        However, how arrogrent is Key when around 70% of kiwis dont want him to sell one slither of public assests, and he ignores them.

        • Anonymous

          I am sure that when shares are sold people will see its not such a bad thing, and . worse case scenario, buy the shares back, its not as if the whole business is bieng sold. I will be in line to purchase, and I hope iwi consider buying shares as well.

  • Anonymous

     vote for Labour, the party that should be the Govt.

    Lol, and why is that ,pray tell?
    Because you want us to go the way of Greece,Ireland and Italy to reach your ideal of a socialist utopia?  Any chance you could let us know what happens when you lefty fuckwits run out of other peoples money?

  • monique

    After watching the “debate” last night, I was more interested in the obvious bias of TV3, from showing mainly labour and greens election adverts to John Campbell practically accusing Paul Henry of maybe being bias toward National – yet didn’t accuse Garner of being the same toward Labour – note Garner wears a Red tie more than any other colour in his stories.  I turned off TV3 news because of their inability to be professional enough to show a balanced news story. 

  • Anonymous

    Public are unconvinced about benefits of being corporate bum-chums. IT’S A CONSPIRACY!!!!

  • SJ00

    Didn’t see if this was mentioned but the Labour page for Kingi has been removed now………..