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Ports confirms salary figures of wharfies

by Whaleoil on January 11, 2012

Despite the attempts of the Maritime Union, Matt McCarten and also their union flunkies at The Standard, the Ports of Auckland have today confirmed the figures that Cactus Kate blogged for wharfie remuneration. Straight from the horses mouth so to speak. There cannot any longer be any doubt about the figure, we can all safely use the $91,000 pa figure.

Worse too, for the union, they did it on The Standard. In fact the same post where they defamed me and then had to retract their false claims:

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  • Brian Smaller

    I’ll swap jobs.

  • Dr Wang

    A classic “inconvenient truth” moment – and top marks for doing it on the Standard!

  • Willsomers101

    So they are working 43-49 hours a week  for that .  Where did the 23 hrs come from- Damien Christie seems to get the blame for this one. Will he own up

    • joe bloggs

      Did you miss something in the translation WS?

      Earn on average $91,000
      Paid for an average of 43 hours a week, but actually work only 28 hours a week
      In a busy week get paid for 66.5 hours, but work for a maximum of only 44.5 hrs

      And they have the gall to bitch and moan about working conditions?????

    • Gazzaw

      Will, give this one away mate. You really are trying to defend the indefensible here and you’re just digging a deeper hole for yourself. Keep it up and you will end up like Kosh whose posts are read purely for entertainment value.

      • Vij

        I am glad you see it the same way

    • Vij

      You are an idiot who can’t  read what was written.  A typical moron who only sees what he/she wants to see and ignores everything else that does not fit into your moronic mindset

  • joe bloggs

    And what do you know?

    All of a sudden the lead story on The Stranded disappears down the page, despite featuring at the top all morning… go figure!

    • Agent BallSack

      Thats because it hurts getting effed in the a

  • Masph984

    $90,000 hey? ohhhhh they’re creaming it. I see you’re also keen to dedicate your energy to exposing petty thefts committed by the poor, yet when it comes to billions involved in the various wall street scams you are strangely silent. Which do you think Jesus would be more concerned about? Hmmmmm. 

    “Matt 21:12-13 And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and
    bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them
    that sold doves, And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of
    prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.”  

    • Anonymous

      As I understand it, the temple only accepted ritually clean money, that is without any pagan images. Consequently pilgrims from outside Israel had to change their pagan money for ritually clean money before they could present it in the temple.

      Likewise they’d have to spend money to buy sacrifices because carrying them all that way was difficult.

      Of course the traders made a significant markup on their trades, aided and abetted by the religious leaders who set the rules for what was and was not accepted as offerings.

      It was their use of the Temple grounds (the Court of the Gentiles) for this trading which offended Jesus.

      Your criticisms of WO on this is misplaced.

      In regards to the actual article, the issue is that the stevedores are not being paid a fair day’s pay for a fair day’s work. They are being paid roughly two day’s pay for one day’s work. In the face of that their insistence that they are hard done by seems somewhat obtuse.

      The issue of Wall Street scams is another topic entirely, not least because OMG, Wall Street is in America and the Ports of Auckland are here in New Zealand. Wall Street traders may well deserve to be lined up and shot, but they aren’t directly affecting us at the moment.

      There’s also a little saying, “two wrongs don’t make a right.”

      • Masph984

        Jason – Jesus referred to the money changers as thieves. A thief is a thief no matter where they are. You look at their modern equivalents on Wall Street, satanic occultists. What do you think Jesus would think about these people and their activities? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpKdSvwYsrE 

    • joe bloggs

      Not very nice of you to call the Maritime Union a den of thieves! But completely appropriate, nevertheless.

      Just run the numbers and tell me the MU members are not creaming it:
      Paid an average of $91,000 a year
      Paid for an average of 43 hours per week
      Paid for a 43 hour week but only work around 28 hours
      5 weeks a year paid annual leave
      3 weeks a year paid sick leave
      Dollar-for-dollar super contributions up to 7%
      Full family medical cover
      Offered a 10% rate increase and turned it down????

      A den of iniquity indeed!

    • Anonymous

      here we go again, Masph984 using the bible in a failed attempt to give some legitimacy to his statement.

      As usual, trying to divert the attention away from the main point: The Stranded fucked up again.

      Ports of Auckland discussion to——-> wall street scams? how the hell did that happen. Keep your mind on task Masphemer984, and don’t take the bible out of context. Focus on Quay St, not Wall St.

    • Thorn

      Welcome back ye of the synagogue of Satan. Has your dark master commanded you to set time aside to humiliate yourself again?

    • Vij

      You are another moron

    • http://twitter.com/Jazr0d Jazr0d

      speaking of thieves, hands off of my oxygen masphemer!

      • Masph984

        jazr0d – i thought your genus of amoeba thrives only in anaerobic environs?

    • Dr Wang

      Where do you live Masph? – I’ll come and help myself to your stuff.

    • http://keepingstock.blogspot.com/ Inventory2

      In my experience as a Christian Masph984, those who use scriptures to try and justify their position in a non-Christian environment are actually acting with very non-Christian intent.

      • Masph984

        aww – so sorry about all the cognitive dissonance ye christian rightists. Why do i feel like my role here is going to be a kind of Bill Hicks standup act? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLS-l3VbCAM

    • YNFEM

      He threw them out because they were doing business IN HIS HOLY TEMPLE OF WORSHIP, not solely because they were business men. Selectively reading the Bible has got to be the lowest of the low. 

  • Troy

    Whenever there are problems on the left, that prize wanker McCarten’s name appears – he’s probably the biggest shit-stirrer in nz’s employment history since Jim Knox.  McCarten should just fuck off out the affairs of Auckland – there’s no place for his destructive attitude towards anything non-left… what a goat’s cock he is.

  • Anonymous

    I’ll be free from 5 in the weekdays this year. Happy to do a couple of weeknights and a weekend day shift to top up my income, if anyone from POAL is reading this and is prepared to train me. 

    • Anonymous

      I’ll line up behind you Butts, i used to work 12 – 14 hour night shifts in the rain and for much less than what they’re getting, and didn’t bitch about it. Its called growing a pair and hardening the f#$k up, the union workers are a bunch of soft cocks with no work ethic.

  • Vlad

    This is not just a win, this is a full-scale, running away, discarding weapons and ripping off uniforms as they go ROUT.

  • Don

    What is the average hourly rate of the dock workers?

    • Jassen

      Looks like about $36 an hour including sick days. $40 an hour exclusing sick pay.

      • Agent BallSack

        Its criminal that people on that sort of wage would strike. And you have the leftards at the standard defending them. Most right wingers I know earn less than that but we’re the evil rich pricks.

    • Bafacu

      My calculation of the average of $91,00 per annum divided by 52 weeks divided by 28 hours (which is what they actually work) equals an amount of $62.50 per hour worked – bloody sight better that wat I earn as a business owner employing staff at over twice what I get remunerated for a lot less hours and anguish – any of the wharfies want to swap jobs, I’m in boots and all.

  • Tony

    Hey TVNZ – how about reporting some facts. It’s not like you have to do anything – it’s all been provided for you.

    • Agent BallSack

      As long as they don’t forget to reference WhaleOil blogger Cameron Slater.

  • Jman

    Having read this I think I finally have a grasp on what the real sticking point of this dispute is. The wharfies want to continue being paid for hours that they don’t work, while management wants to only pay them for the hours they do actually work. Am I right?

    • Tony

      Exactly!

    • http://keepingstock.blogspot.com/ Inventory2

      You’re right on the money Jman; all the bluff and bluster from MUNZ is simply a smokescreen to cover the fact that the port workers are creaming it.

      As usual, the Left has obfuscated and lied, and as usual, the VRWC has proved the lies. The port workers are on a really good wicket, and PoAL is simply seeking to redress the imbalance.

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  • Sars

    So not only are they paid well, they get more sick leave than legally required (15 days vs 5 days) can accrue more than legally required (45 days vs 20 days) and get more annual leave (5 weeks vs 4 weeks) – not to mention they have no shut down period during which they are required to use their holidays (they work through Christmas, most professional have 2 – 3 weeks close down)
    http://www.dol.govt.nz/infozone/myfirstjob/employees/rights/rights.asp 

    I mean, good on the Union for getting them these terms and conditions – they are extremely favourable. But have they never heard ‘quit while you’re ahead’???

  • Thorn

    Masph984, Jesus may have said to the Wall Street people “Zacchaeus, hurry down from there! I must stay at your house today” – Luke 19.1 – 10.

  • cornershop…not

    So where the hell are all the TV journo’s now? This should defo be a top billing story……..not only because I want to see the maritime union, and the standard be shown for the useless bunch of medievil architects of commie shitheads that they are, but also because these true facts need to be aired so the public can see the facts and make their own judgements, as opposed to incorrect convenient lies from parsloe and co…..good work Catherine and POAL

  • Notrotsky

    Nothing as humourous as seeing Lynn and his gang of tards getting done up the chook good and hard.

    I also note one of their most munted commenters appears to have outed himself is this the idiot also known as Draco TB ?

    http://thestandard.org.nz/nz-has-best-value-for-money-education-in-the-world/#comment-423930

  • Jassen

    So what happens to the Wharfies now that they have been outed as earning over the average wage and are now technically “Rich Pricks” according to the left?

    Will they be left out in the cold to fight for themsleves? Hell no. Because they belong to the unions they are usefull “Rich Pricks” which is different from say an IT Manager earning $90k and doesn’t belong to a union.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4WAXIPJJUS6UBHMGPMNIZCJVLA Marksuzy

    One thing I wonder is whether it is a bit trite to talk about payment for downtime. Wouldn’t it be equally true to say that they are seeking payment for making them selves available to work – even though the company has not made the work available to them?
    The stevedoring turnaround times have a natural offset is wharfage fees and I think there is probably a more complex financial model to look at in terms of true overall costs for ship turnarounds  and the services offered by the port to the vessels. Like a number of businesses; having “peak capacity” avalable carries a cost that has to be allowed for in the economics of the business…. I am sure the unions are making such an argument.

    • Tony

      That is a good point – except that the employer is now trying to achieve a way to ensure that work and labour are available at the same time.

  • Charles2336

    Where’s the late Ray La Varis when you need him!  Ray was a businessman in the 1970′s who exposed the thieving that went on in NZ Ports, where before containerisation the wharfies had free access to pillage goods they were unloading.

    Ray gained so much traction and support for his claims that he was elected the National MP for Taupo in the 1975 National landslide election, in what was previously a reasonably safe Labour seat.

    • EX Navy Greg

      Yeah I remember Him, he was the guy that called the inter islander crew” the great train robbers”

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  • http://voakl.net/ Ben Ross

    Well that is what I call one smack down handed to The Standard on a nice Platinum Platter.
    My RMTU colleagues were wondering why I was smiling very hard and trying to contain the case of ROFL – this post was the reason.

    So what shall tomorrow bring? 

  • Sweetd

    Yep, it’s a case of “quick, look over there”.

    The Standard is just a few sad arses on constant repeat of 2 mins of hate. There can’t be more than 15 people on the place.

  • http://voakl.net/ Ben Ross

    ABS – your comments made it to the Standard and are still there – good lord Hell froze over today.

    Oh well lets see what tomorrow does bring

  • EX Navy Greg

    $ 65.000 for part time work? Parsloe himself could roger me with a big splintery gatepost for that sort of money.

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