Is MUNZ bullying Auckland Councillors?

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I have just heard that people representing MUNZ have been calling councillors and insisting that they vote for a resolution being proposed fo a council meeting tomorrow by Cr. Cathy Casey.

They have been told in no uncertain terms that their failure to support Cathy Casey’s resolution will result in active MUNZ action against them politically.

I am told that at least one councillor would brook no such nonsense and told them to sling their hooks.

That resulted in threats of violence from the MUNZ officials. My understanding is that at least one councillor has escalated this to Council CEO Doug McKay with requests for security and protection for the councillors,  and it could well be escalated to the Police.

Typical union thugs, things are clearly not going as swimmingly as they would like and they are now resorting to intimidation of elected councillors.

  • Scanner

    Great to see the “Toxic Jock” still championing the cause for Parsloe and his looser mates, and also great to see the Muppet’s methods are unchanged, you would think that after 4 months they may have learned that threats and bullying are counter productive.¬†

    Here’s hoping the Toxic Jock gets her motion slammed and once more the Muppet’s get used as arse paper

  • ConwayCaptain

    Well The Toxic Jock is doing what all the lefty Whingers do resort to stand over tactics

    As for MUNZ and Co business as usual

  • Random66

    Wouldn’t surprise me.¬† Seems there is pressure coming from all quarters for the Auckland Council to somehow remove the PoA Board.¬† Even John Minto is out there screaming his battle cry¬†demanding action.¬† I sincerely hope that those with the power to make these decisions support the board during these troubling times¬†and see this dirty mud slinging, bully, chest beating variety for what they are – desperate and pathetic, who will stoop as low as they need to go to get their own way.¬† Don’t give in to them I say.¬† The councillars are only now experiencing what the PoA board members probably have been for some time.

  • Sarrs

    I watched the video of the Auckland Council meeting featuring Ms Casey that WO posted a couple of weeks ago…if that is a true representation of her character then this doesn’t surprise me.¬†

  • Owl

    WO dont know your source but i really hope for the sake of the NZ public this council member stands in public and makes a stand if it is true. I am sure whoever it is and if he has convictions about why he was selected – now his hour – he has a number of people who vote for him straight away.

    News like this make me sad we live in Auckland and NZ.- we pride ourselves that we dont threaten people in office – debate, demand and even stand to be elected for what you believe even if the general public doesnt agree with you – but please don’t tell me this true.

  • Ronnie Chow

    These threats may be recorded . I believe all Council communication is . Any transcripts of an actual physical threat to back up these claims would be very useful to the P.O.A.

  • Super_Guest

    Seriously, if they weren’t hiding behind the shroud of a dying movement, these hacks would be up on charges of harassment.¬†

  • doshi

    dying who is dying
    I  am getting extremely tired of this sort of comments from you fuckwits for the last 5 months
    we are not going away  
     

    • http://www.whaleoil.co.nz Whaleoil

      You might not be going away but you sure as hell aren’t coming back.

    • BD

      Your correct, you wont go away. You will stand on a footpath, looking through a fence at your former workplace reminiscing how good you once had it while also running through your mind why you let a bunch of union muppet leaders take your job away so they could promote their own agendas. 

      While you will probably have to relocate your family and possessions to another city or country your beloved union leaders will be supported by a political party, that no doubt you would have also voted for, and put into another $100k+ a year job. No disruption to their life at all.

      • Mully

        ¬†You know, I’ve been wondering how the thugs will react towards Parsloe and Kelly once they actually lose their jobs for good.

        I wonder if their anger will finally turn towards these lunatics who have effectively driven their jobs away, as well as any chance of employment with the contractors that the port will appoint.

        Baited fricken breath, I tells you.

    • http://keepingstock.blogspot.com/ Inventory2

      ¬†No Doshi, but with this kind of tactic, you might be going to prison. You ceratinly won’t be winning any support.

    • Lala

      Then go to the standard Doshi you big fat fuckwit! If you want everyone to agree with you that’s the best place to post!

    • Gem

      Tsk tsk language doshi it only shows weakness you know

    • Ronnie Chow

      ¬†We are not fuckwits , Doshi . Far from it . We are watching a chess game unfold , and backing the player with the most credibility . MUNZ are a gang that has been in control of it’s employers decisions for far too long . Your jobs are relatively easy , computerized and well organized , not any longer requiring muscle .
      ¬† The majority of New Zealanders want your grip off the wharves permanently . The internet has been your downfall , and it is a great pity in some ways that individual union members couldn’t have organized secretly and bumped your leadership , because they have acted in their own interests and not yours .
      ¬†The wage rates and working conditions in the first offer from the P.O.A. may have been slightly less comfortable that what you were used to , but there are plenty of people working hard in skilled jobs for much less who can’t understand you attitude .
        It is hardly possible that you still have any sympathy outside of the Union movement , and if reported physical threats from MUNZ leadership have been recorded , you may all end up on the street with your hands out fairly soon .

    • Beenthere

      Yesterday, you were moaning about being called names -Pot meet Kettle.

      It’s irrelevant weather you think your side will win or not, you have got bugger all influence as to how this plays out in the end & your comments remind me of Japanese soldiers who never surrendered, despite fighting a lost battle.

      If your ship goes down, I guess you will be going down with it.

    • Arnold

      ¬†you and your mates are nothing but a bunch of gangsters…..just pissed off that me working and paying taxes will go to you spongers when you are out on the street.

    • LesleyNZ

      Doshi –¬†Asked you this the other day – don’t think you answered yet: “Doshi agree about the language but why are you so loyal to the Union? Why don’t you take control of your own life instead of having the Union bosses tell you what to do as they take your Union fees. They won’t lose out. MUNZ has to modernise and stop the bully tactics of yesteryear’s Unions.” http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2012/03/no-progress-in-ports-dispute/#disqus_thread

  • doshi

    no no we will win here as it has taken so long to try and destroy us but as yet has not happened
    we will have a victory barbeque and you are all invited
    get over it
    Whale oil will even give you a sausage,unfortunately it may be inserted but hope you will enjoy

    • Mully

      ¬†Only if WINZ gives you a food grant…

    • Gem

      Sausage marinated in urine and shoved up your bum. Sounds like the breakfast of champions.

    • Frangipani

      I think you’ve made an error there doshi. The sentence should read …. It’s taken so long for us to destroy ourselves …. That makes more sense

    • Jobbie

      Feeling a bit cranky tonight? You’re not sounding your jubilant self. Take a chill pill or find a new topic it’ll work wonders for you. Tomorrows a big day

    • Jimbob

      But you are still on the outside Doshi so what victory are you referring? It’s not about little victories that you think you are winning, it’s about the final result!

    • Rightoverlabour

      Hi  Doshi,  I am a teacher, so I thought it prudent to educate you on some elementary definitions. 

      lose/loÕěoz/
      Verb:Be deprived of or cease to have or retain (something): “I’ve lost my appetite”.Cause (someone) to fail to gain or retain (something): “you lost me my appointment at the university”.Synonyms:miss – waste¬†As in: I will lose my job or lose my income or lose my credit rating….win/win/
      Verb:Be successful or victorious in (a contest or conflict).Noun:A successful result in a contest, conflict, bet, or other endeavor; a victory.Synonyms:verb.¬†¬†gain – get – obtain – conquer – acquire – take – overcomenoun.¬†¬†victory – triumph – winning – success – conquestAs in: POA will win this stand off and employ who they like, ¬†on their terms.¬†Now I assume you can read this, as I’ll be damned if they are paying¬†illiterate¬†fools $91,000 per year. Good luck with ¬†the job hunting.¬†¬†

    • Rightoverlabour

      Before someone jumps all over my post below, I copied and pasted the definitions, but the formatting has gone astray…

    • http://www.whaleoil.co.nz Whaleoil

      On the BBQ you pissed on? Yum…

    • Dave

      @af87fb7e537fcd13b2338acabccbf3a9:disqus Mate, read the writing, you will NOT win.  You have already lost the battle.   The real battle is in the hearts and minds of real Kiwis.  Get strategic, read these posts and think, think hard and long, look at the environment, do a PESTEL analysis of the situation, look at all elements and factors, not just blank out reality by saying oh, its just the right factions on here.    I lost my job late last year and would love a real job, would work 60 hours a week if I could.   

      Real kiwis, those MUNZ can’t intimidate and threaten, are completely over MUNZ and the bloody lying lazy wharfies in Auckland. ¬† No time for them whatsoever, i wish someone could export the bloody lot of you – straight to outer mongolia on one of those ships Mr ¬†Parsloe says will not come to Auckland. ¬† ¬†Even the shipping companies want MUNZ and you lazy bastards out.
      Sure, you might get an injunction for this or that, but you will never win, NZers are waiting, it will happen, there care about 4.5 million watching, waiting and secretly praying. ¬†The real battle has already been won. ¬†As Whale puts it….. soon to be ¬†PoAL 100 – MUNZ 0¬†

  • Grandstream

    Just saw the WO posted video of Casey at the recent council meeting ! What an applaing individual with her snout in teh public purse.  She actually portrays all that is wrong with the left ! Cant conceive that she is wrong and a chip on her shoulder/sense of entitlement !

    • Disinfectedtwice

       Where is it please?

      • BFBFB

        below the WO post above, there are a number of huyper linked tags – click on Cathy Casey……be prepared to be annoyed and amazed at this piece of excrement !

      • James

        Go scroll back through WO’s post to a bout three 4¬†weeks¬†back…

    • Disinfectedtwice

       Thanks got it. Now will look

    • AnonWgtn

      Casey has always been a nutcase publicity seeker – so what’s new.

  • Ronnie Chow

    ¬†Quote fro the Workers Party website . Please clarify this , Doshi….

    ” The workers pride themselves on the shipshape safety culture they have
    established over the years on the Auckland wharf. But management
    continually try to push the envelope: “Young workers are being
    pressurised to drive the straddle cranes round like stock cars.‚ÄĚ

    • Ronnie Chow

       More from the Workers Party . We collectively have much to fear..

      ¬†¬† ‚ÄúLast Monday we put on a ‚Äėhard picket‚Äô which was effective. We kept it
      on just long enough to have the trucks backing up all down the road,
      just to send a message of the kind of disruption that is possible.‚ÄĚ

      • Eli

        I’m actually disappointed that the cops didn’t do anything with that. Blocking traffic and causing roadblocks, last time I checked was pretty illegal. Anyone other than the union would have got arrested.

      • Jimbob

        Get real! About 20 port strikers and all the rest were nons (aka rent a goon) it served no purpose but to alienate aucklanders!

    • Jimbob

      Straddle speeds have dropped at POA due to safety.

      • Mully

         Was it a MUNZ member who rolled that straddle a couple of years back?

      • hugo

        yeah it was a union member who rolled a straddle cause another union member was following to close

  • http://keepingstock.blogspot.com/ Inventory2

    I doubt that the goons will get a particularly friendly reception from Cr George Wood; a former Detective-Inspector, and a damned good bloke. I’m sure he still has many friends in the police, who will be only too happy to investigate any complaint…

  • Eli

    Doshi, do you actually believe what you say, or are you just hear to wind people up? I actually can’t work it out to be honest…

  • Fergus

    But I thought that PoA were being unreasonable when they sent letters directly to members of the union, offering voluntary redundancy. Didn’t Helen Kelly describe that as disgusting?? So what is this then?? Maybe we need a stronger adjective.

  • doshi

    yeah appreciate the comment from you,even though really quite pathetic
    Look this is going to result in a victory to MUNZ and I know it hurts and I can console with you as the language against us is from people whom have and I no doubt get their pleasure from having a go at us.
    The old Captain continues to tell us he is extremely experienced but really I have worked  out after the crap he has written about us he is around 104 years old.
    Keep up the good work as we will win this and all you will have to worry about as to how you extricate the sausage buried in whale oils arse and I have no doubt he will not be short of volunteers as I would expect from the right wing nutters who write in to this.
    Ronnie Chow you chinaman they are straddle carriers not cranes
    Ronnie if you do not know our industry kindly keep to what you are good at fish and chips

    • Random66

      Ouch!

    • Owl

      Doshi – thank you for your comments are observations. I have as everyone knows on here very good at looking into the background on people. … I have completed yours. I will write on here the most startling piece of information about you which no one knows yet.

      I have discovered the most interesting fact about you Doshi and once I release it in 10 minutes time after I get a copy – you will never write on here again

      The OWL

      • Gandalf

        Waiting with baited breath :-)

      • Tom

        +1 

    • Markm

      You racist intellectual vacuum.
      If your father could be identified he should have been castrated.
      Ask your mother she may have a vague idea who he is
      This country dosent need people like you

    • Gem

      Another dose of racism doshi? So far this week you’ve maligned women, tuvaluans and now Chinese and it’s only hump day. Do you say these things to the islanders and Asians who you are pressuring to stay in the picketline with you?? Bet it goes down a treat. You go on and on about the right. I’m not a right supporter I’m just someone who is looking to find some real reporting so that I can understand what’s going on and what I see from you and the other munz who put themselves in radio and tv is a group why think of themselves as elite and exempt who practice racism and misogyny and claim to be working class yet earn far more than those in the working class.

    • EpochNZ

      ¬†Even if you do win doshi, what do you end up winning?¬† Youve lost all respect, even your fellow comrades in the RMTU (despite giving a generous $10,000 donation which I bet was never voted on) are cheesed at the way they were treated after being injuncted back to work in Tauranga, the port will lose all of its committed non-union labour, your inactivity will cause the port to lose further money as you continually strike over amendments to your already cushy contracts until it folds….leaving the way clear for restaurants and coffee shops (and maybe a decent stadium?) while containers are railed from inland hubs to the new regional deepwater port at Marsden Pt.

      Either way, you lose.

      • Dave

        @EpochNZ:disqus 
        Perhaps its best the port closes, and moves to a Deep water port in Whangarei. Webuild a fast and efficient rail link/terminal t othe Nth shore, West and south auckland. ¬†Not only do we Jaffas get the port for a fantastic harbor, but we could send the Wharfies and their MUNZ mates to Whangarei…..
        Sounds like a fair swap to me!  

    • MUNZ are MUNTED

      You are a waste of space and have your comeuppance looming. As you and indeed your band of thug brothers have demonstrated, you are a racist and a bigott and deserve to be consigned to the fringes for the rest of the term this mortal coil allows. You and your thug band of reprobates be damned. As a shareholder of POAL I submit you be dismissed as an employee. I expect other shareholders would be happy to bring a class action to have you and the rest of your toxic brotherhood ejected summerily.

    • http://www.whaleoil.co.nz Whaleoil

      Ahh more racism from the Coach. 

    • hugo

      do you still have your house on the shore????? no you dont the bank got it…. im so sorry

    • hugo

      so doshi are you Graham McKean. I keep asking and you dont reply. you write like him Well yes or no

    • W.Austin

      As someone who didnt give a shit about this situation I’m posting for the first time on this website (only just started reading WO). This is for you doshi. My partner is a union rep (not munz) and we live 5-6 hours from Auckland. She is now being forced to show solidarity with the munz by attending pickets against her will. Its something she certainly does not believe in but as¬†is the way of unions,¬†she has no choice, no chance to voice her disapproval without fear of reprisal. It seems to me unions operate through fear and thuggery (especially things involving the wharfies). You guys are now losing support from your most loyal support base. You and your so called mates are a good topic in our household, much mirth and derision made toward you lot. At work you and your mates are the butt of most jokes, whenever a staff member hits 26 hours (usually midday wed) a big shoutout rings out,,, “I WANT MY 96 THOUSAND!!!” Much jesting and joking happens, then we all get back to work and do our jobs. Something you will probably never get to do again.

      • Gandalf

        Thanks for sharing this, it’s nice to see insight from elsewhere, especially coming from a union side also.

      • J.Key is a maggot

        tell her to quit then..please harden the fuck up

      • Guest

        in reply to J Key is a maggot:

        You mean like, put on a balaclava and go out and find women in cars and surround their car and rock it?¬† Or maybe empty your bladder on someone else’s BBQ or use your kids to push your lame argument in a media promotion so that they get bullied at school?¬†

      • Bilcaro

        Pretty easy to figure this post……bullshit

    • ConwayCaptain

      104  You must be joking!!!

      • phronesis

        Quite a compliment I thought. You have clearly led an unusually productive life to have fitted 104 years worth in before now.

    • MUNZ are MUNTED

      The meek shall inherit the earth. You Sir, have the intellectual integrity of a flee. You primary goal is to move from host to host extracting the life from each host as you go. You are a parasite on the host that is your employer. You gorge yourself on your employers good will and your belly fills with their goodness you plant your toxic offspring waiting to devour their way out from within. Your only redeeming quality is your limited lifespan.

      Profanity and cultural denigration are weapons of the deluded, your weapons are useless against us. You are N empty vessel devoid of sense and sensibility. You have no place in this modern world and deserve no credence nor status as a valued, informed or balanced individual.

    • Gandalf

      Don’t count your chickens before they hatch
      Don’t put the cart before the horse

    • Greg M

       Doshi (Danny, coach, I have met you at a sports day at ngataringa) listen up.

      The ” Conway Captain” is a recently retired master mariner FG.
      He is a well respected and regular contributor here. If you cannot comment civilly and respectfully then I would suggest that you fuck off.

      Greg Moore C.L.M.
      VST MANUWAI

      • ConwayCaptain

        Greg M

        I was forced ashore when replaced by the el cheepo Filipino and Asian crews and that was the early 90’s.¬† I am semi retired now running my business from the GLORIOUS SOUTH WAIKATO having moved from Loopy’s Paradise

      • Greg M

        ¬†Yes, they replaced¬† “Masters” with Rena drivers. All to save a few bucks in salaries, Shame about the environment and insurance increases etc as a result of more ships being run up on the bricks by incompetent watch keeping officers.
        There are still a few old school skippers out there, and what a difference they make.

    • Rollo

      It was a direct quote from the website re ‘Straddle Cranes’, thank God there is another import Chinaman that can make us some decent Chow Mein and not your bullshit stories from Munz..

    • Dr Wang

      Miaoooowww!

    • Ronnie Chow

        Correct! . The quote was lifted directly from YOUR Workers Party website .

       I take it Chinese New Zealanders are not welcome at MUNZ . Any reason ?

      • Frangi

        There are Chinese New Zealanders in MUNZ and they are being used just like the Tuvaluans.  Abused in one breath and comrades in the next.  Everyone is fodder for the MUNZ cause.

    • Bilcaro

      LOL …Yep the old Conway captain ( or is it Captain Fantastic ) the guy that loads horses on the bow of a ship exposed to all the weather and then fuckin near drowns saving them.

      • ConwayCaptain

        Capt Fantastic was the Mar Supt of SCONZ SJ Ponsford who passed away a few years back.

      • Dread Pirate Roberts

        Love it CC.  No fool can pull the wool over your eyes however Bilcaro is a fool so will probably continue with blank artillery. 

    • Dave

      To Doshi.   Mate, before you talk of extricating the sausage from whale, or abusing Ronnie Chow, please please think mate.   Take 10 and think  Why are all these people saying this Рits because the people of NZ and particularly Auckland, are over all of you and especially over MUNZ.  Parsloe is public enemy no 1 in the eyes of ordinary people in NZ who can think for themselves.

      And, I for one will stand with Whale, who at least has the courage to say who he is and what he stands for.   If your so brave, so sure, then come out mate, come out and name yourself.   Post a picture and an address, just like your MUNZ mates know all the councilors    But think, think hard, and ask a few ordinary NZers what they think. 

      PS: ¬† The mines are looking for good workers in Aussie, MT Isa sounds great, just don’t tell them you were a MUNZ supporter.¬†

  • Gazzadelsud

    ah Doshi, important we keep up the racism inherent in the MUNZ “movement” isnt it?

    Look forward to your dole check, because you aren’t impressing any potential future employer with your “defence” strategy.¬† and remember,piss Cam off enough and he will out you.

  • Owl

    From the OWL

    Please read my response to Doshi

    • Tom

      LINK! 

  • Steve (North Shore)

    Looks like someone is wanting a ‘ban’ for debating, so they can blow arse on other blogs.
    Ain’t gonna happen to Dosh Kosh troll. Keep it up, we love self destruction

  • Owl

    Doshi – I have date and time stamped all your postings on here for the last three months.
    If you say who you are I have calculated that a number of your postings are during working hours.
    Furthermore you need access to a pc.
    So if you are a wharfie and a union member and you are posting on here during working hours then…

    I will let the brain boxes work the rest out.

    • hugo

      you do realise most of the last big picket was not munz members. it was their family,uni students and other union members, only about 25 munz members turned up. I think it was friday or monday been.

    • Owl

      Oh forgot to say. i sent my findings off too to interested parties.

      • Gandalf

        Also just shared on facebook page TonySavedOurPort . com
        Food for thought.
        Would have to be a PC cause if it was off a smart phone on the picket line, there is no way they could afford the end of month phone bill

    • Peter WIlson

      What next from the apprentice? Spying on fellow bloggers is not a good look.

      • Owl

        Wasn’t spying…the OWL makes observations…joins the dots…but point noted…thank you

    • J.Key is a maggot

      have you nothing better to do,owl get back under your bosses desk maggot.

      • Owl

        You obviously don’t know the OWL. The owl is a decent person. I don’t swear or make innuendos.
        I would ask you to apologize.
        Doshi has an employment issue..I have made him aware even with his bravado.
        You my friend lack common decency.

        But just so you know….I am one of 7 kids…very middle class upbringing…local coach, put all my time into community projects…donate every cent I have…college education but unlike like you….I was not breast feed by both my parents.

      • Guest

        Since we’re outing people here reckon your initials are either JT, RD or PH, or they’re your husband’s.¬†

        By the way, a maggot is a creature of transformation and they’re full of protein according to Bear Grylls

    • Bilcaro

      Yeah why don’t you get back to work then. You and the majority on her must be unemployed ( or unemployable ) to spend so much time on here.¬†

      • Tramper

        haha what a joke Bilcaro!  Most here do work, thats why they have an informed opinion. If you want to look at the unemployable lot, just flick over to the Standard!!

      • Greg M

         A lot of us here run our own business , doing our best to look after our crew, and avoid employing oxygen thieves like you Bilcaro.

  • pbnz

    Bring it on OWL, can’t wait to see what you found!

  • doshi

    hugo hugo who named you that surely not your parents
    you can not even remember what day it was and it was only 2 days ago so keep taking the pills.
    owl I was hoping for some great statement but as usual you have not delivered
    Come on you people get behind winners MUNZ and the captain as he sees out his years at the rest home.
    what is it 8 months now and all of you had us gone
    get real we will never go away
    happy easter to you all 

    • SpongeBlob

      ¬†Out of the 292 that were originally on strike, haven’t near 100 left MUNZ now? Yeah, MUNZ are real winners.

      • J.Key is a maggot

        where are the facts on those numbers Spongehead

      • Gandalf

        Will get a good idea of the facts tomorrow when we see how many turn up to get paid.

      • EpochNZ

         Hell, everyone will turn up to get paid!  I wouldnt be surprised if 500 turn up!

      • SpongeBlob

        A couple of articles via Google News last week. My question to you “J.Key is a maggot” – why did you swap from posting under “doshi”?

      • Bilcaro

        You obviously have proof of this? Why stand on a picket line when you have won the war.

      • Dread Pirate Roberts

        Good guessing SpongeBlob, you were almost on the mark – refer WO’s post of the POA press release saying that only 196 bothered to show out of 292?¬† Goodness me, Maggot and Bilcaro must be choking on that.

        Oh and Bilcaro, we ask the same question?¬† Why do you stand on a picket line when you have “allegedly” won.¬† I think you will find it is because you haven’t won!¬† Should you ever get your fat ass over the threshold of that POA building, you would have lost the battle because there won’t be any customers left for you to service and no Ports of Auckland.¬† Who will pay you then?¬†

    • hugo

      still to scared to answer the question? yeah i forgot what day it was, big fuckin deal…¬†you know busy working.. oh wait you dont have a job

      • Gandalf

        Probably cause you hit the nail on the head

    • Owl

      The last time I posted my findings within 48 hours the NZCTU and MUNZ filed financial accounts to MED. Unite have just filed theirs.

      SARS and WO will back me up…my work is quality

      Doshi your dossiary is in the mail

      • Light

        Owl, your work is as always well researched and prepared.  I look forward to seeing the results. Thank you for doing this.

    • Gem

      Not sure why you’re so obsessed with the Captain’s age but perhaps you want to add ageism to your list of things you like to practice.¬† Discrediting those with more life experience than yourself and trivialising them by intimating that they’re doddery and in need of rest homes.

      Happy Easter to you too. 

  • EpochNZ

    I’ve never seen doshi so active on a post before…almost as if he is inviting abuse….to be used as evidence for other purposes….I believe the correct term is “trolling”.

    8 months?¬† So another stirring win, just like in ’51?

    BTW, I asked about whether my Grandafather received a “proud to be a watersider” certificate after being locked out in ’51.¬† Common consensus was he was so disgusted by how he had been treated by the union that he refused it.¬† This was after one uncle worked the wharves as a member of the forces and another was arrested for sending money home to support the family.

    How many family did you have on the wharfs in ’51, doshi?

  • doshi

     a father and a father in law epoch
    and a mother and mother in law and they were proud people who have set up working conditions for all working people in NZ even the paracitical nut cases  that write into this

    • EpochNZ

       And yet you still managed to come out of the experience without an intense loathing of how union management use their own members as pawns in their own political games for power?

      I am impressed.

    • Stevo

      Sorry, I didn’t quite understand that.

      • EpochNZ

         Sorry Stevo, me or doshi?

        I was relating that my family were so torn apart by the union that they didnt have much to do with them again.¬† I’m surprised that doshi came out of the same circumstances with no ill will towards the unions at all.

    • Stevo

      To Doshi  thanks for that EpochNZ

    • DJ

       That sounds like a very narrow straight family tree there Doshi!

      I am not sure how the working conditions of the wharfies affect my job though. Struggling to tie those together.

    • Jimbob

      Yes well there aren’t that many of you left, are there Danny?¬† Its getting easier and easier to pin the tale on the donkey!

      • Tattooyou

        I have to say here that I don’t think it would bother a certain Coach to borrow Danny’s persona so that he could hide behind it.¬† he doens’t want any more trouble after his court case with POAL and Danny’s pretty open about his personal history so Coach would know some details.¬† The writing looks like Coach’s.

      • Jimbob

        Ooh, thanks.¬† It was the service records and the father and father in law that was throwing me…..

  • Whafe

    doshi – you must be the first living brain donor…. Have made more sense of my 5 year olds writing than your dribble….

    Must be difficult having your soul decimated by the POA and Whale Oil…… It is fun watching the life get sapped out of you…..

  • Gandalf

    So can the councellors then vote by way of Secret Ballot? Then technically MUNZ won’t know who to target as they won’t know who voted what…apart from Cathy Casey

    • DJ

       Agree, but she will run off to MUNZ as soon as the result is in. Probably have it on speaker phone to Parsloe.

      ps … seems on here we are in agreement on a few things Gandalf as apposed to opposites on the Herald views. Good to see. If you are the same Gandalf that is.

  • Timandtim

    Nice link..Doshi and John Key is a Maggot…Graham McKean

    It is sort of one of question?

    My uncle brother was at the party with a women who had a red hat.
    The lady in the blue dress sat next to my sister
    My sister brother was married to the women in the brown hat
    My uncle left with the women who had the red hat
    What is the relationship to the woman in the blue dress

    Answer that then I guess we will all start to understand Doshi’s writing

    • http://keepingstock.blogspot.com/ Inventory2

      ¬†Graham McKean; “Coach”, right? The one with the Employment Court case for supposed wrongful dismissal pending?

      • Timandtim

        Not suggesting the three are related just following the threads. Interesting though no noise from doshi and John key the maggot in the last hour…are they having a cuppa tea. Gotta admire OWL..looks like he did his homework again.

        Oh by the way everyone I am an Auckland ratepayer…tripped over this site by accident one day. Some reall bollocks on here by some people but like the stories..enjoy the video clips best and the overseas stuff.

        Haven’t quite worked out who cactus Kate is yet. Saris is bullish…captain is a legend

      • Proteinmaggot

        He is ignoring that question but his writing is very similar to Coach and Coach was rather fond of publishing and getting his comments out there.

        The employment case to get him resinstated after he’d been fired was mysteriously dropped by MUNZ and then he disappeared off the scene for a few weeks and returned victorious in his new role as a First Union rep with a flash car as part of his salary. Parsloe probably did the deal for him and First Union had no problem with his dismissal from POAL for racism, sexism and bullying.

        He can sometimes be seen down on the picketline showing his solidarity. No doubt his new role pays him more than he got as a stevedore and he can now do even less and possibly get access to a PC during working hours to post on here!! 

        However doshi’s just dropped a bit more info today which, if correct, may mean he is not Coach and more likely to be a stevedore DB or WW. It doesn’t really matter who he is, because when he comes on here he represents the MUNZ mentality and you get the picture of what POAL have to deal with, with nearly 300 such people on site.

      • Timandtim

        So you saying owl nailed it…there has been nothing on here for a while. Maybe got a phone call

        Love the owl work

      • EpochNZ

        ¬†I just did a google search on “Graham McKean”, and the second hit (after a painter from Scotland) was a full PDF on the Judges verdict on his unsuccessful application for re-instatement.

        Thats not going to look good to a future employer, is it?

    • Roland

      Like Timandtim, I just ‘tripped over’ this site one day, a one eyed Cantabrian and former Policeman, I hope to contribute where I can and mostly understand the majority of contributors concerns

      • Doug_S

        Welcome Roland..We look forward to your input

      • Owl

        welcome Roland
        You will work out the rules – most of us are on here for general debate – I dont like swearing or personal attacks but my major focus is discussing process and observations – there are some good people on here. WO offers you the opportunity to debate argue etc – but we must all keep within the rules or it just beocmes a slugfest.
        Ports of Auckland has had good mileage (I think it is fair to say the courts will decide the matter now)
        ACC is going to be interesting
        WO posts the articles for the day – you either agree or disagree
        Juicy bits most welcome – but find it holds better credibility if you can reference to a source – most people go and jump on line and has a look.
        Dont be disappointed if people pull you up – I have – I find a humble apology works and then rip into again.
        You being an ex policeman will be very interesting – you may find people asking point of law questions.

        Welcome

  • Doug_S

    Doshi…You are shouting in a sound-proofed room, your voice penetrates nothing and will not go beyond the insulation that is your cause. Your toolbox is devoid of precision tools and populated only with hammers. You seek solidarity and demand it with force. What is to become of your cause if you demand it through threat and harm.¬†

    You are destined to become a symbol of hatred in modern society if you continue on this route. Be proactive, protect your family, live within your means, do your job as your employer has asked, make your money and live your life like the rest of us. If you have a family ask yourself, what is the effect on my children (political views or otherwise), what is the impact on your day to day life while you support the unsupported? 

    I sincerely hope you are able to answer these questions when your children ask them and with a modicum of sincerity.

    • Whafe

      Fantastic articulated post Doug_S……….. Doshi, read & learn from the above post!

      • Doug_S

        Hat tip—Whafe.. ;-)

    • Roland

      Thanks for the welcome Doug_S, I hope to contribute quality comment as opposed to quantity, I am still very well connected in certain circles and maybe I can offer a balanced view from another perspective without betraying any confidences 

      • Greg M

         Looking forward to your input Roland, and welcome.
        Regards Greg.

  • Stevo

    Sorry , to clarify. EPOCH I agree with you on that comment.

    • EpochNZ

       Thanks Stevo, all is good.

  • http://voakl.net/ Ben Ross

    Right while everyone is focusing on doshi we have another issue at hand, this resolution at Council tomorrow. I could not find it in the agenda, so is it really happening or am I missing something

    • Greg M

      General business probably, I can’t find it either.

    • Owl

      The can’t pass a binding motion. Only the government can. Best they can do is agree on a recommendation. Council can’t take control of something they don’t own. The will end up in the biggest legal battle suing themselves.
      It is dead in the water before they even start.

      • http://voakl.net/ Ben Ross

        Thank you Owl :-)

      • Roland

        Thanks for the welcome here Owl, I am already beginning to get the gist of things¬†¬†and hope to contribute worthy comment as opposed to quantity…¬†

  • Gazzadelsud

    oh, I am sure at least 350 will turn up to get paid, there will be Doshi, and 349 ghost employees,because if there is a teat to be milked, doshi and his union mates will be there for their “entitlement” in spades, you can bank on it.

  • Owl

    Where is Doshi?

    The OWL sleeps…Cathy Casey now there is an interesting bird

    • Roland

      Isnt it Dr CAthy Casey? ‘One of them Dr’s that makes you sick’?¬†

    • Greg M

       Thank you Owl, watching your posts with much interest.
      The toxic jock is boring and predictable, and is not worth your investigative skills.
      I am looking forwards to your investigations to union finances, Please CC your findings to the IRD, I am sure it will be very interesting!

  • BJ

    Yawn. Is this the same resolution she ‘lost the plot over’ a week or so ago? It wasn’t on the agenda then either.

  • ConwayCaptain

    To timand tim and Greg M and others

    Thank you for the compliments.  I am waiting for OWL to dish the dosh on doshi.

    Greg How did the tow go?????  How long was your tow wire????  Did you tow just on a wire attached to a bridle or did you have a weight such as an anchor in the middle of the line to give it a decent catenary???

    • Greg M

       Captain,
      We used 4 shackles of 40 mm wire,, with an empty barge the wire never broke the surface. Made 4 kts in a 2m easy swell, I stood 18hr watch, can’t affford more crew ( I have four, would like six ), but it was a bloody good trip, barge delivered 12 hrs ahead of schedule and way under budget.

      • Dave

        Greg.   Interesting post, but if you need more people to work for you, there are a lot of them standing around outside the Auckland wharves.  M ost say they want to work.   Am sure they would accept a reasonable wage, even heard they will work 40 hours for 26 hours pay!

    • Owl

      I already have. Read earlier posts

  • Owl

    I don’t think will hear from Doshi or John the Maggot again. They were doing there comments during company time.

    If we do then it will be in their own but I guess they have few questions to answer.

    • Frangi

      Owl, we know who doshi is now.¬† He’s not actually posting during company time as he’s on the picket line with MUNZ, indefinitely locked out but still on the payroll. He must be posting from home.¬† Just tracking down John Key is a Maggot now, might as well go for Bilcaro as well while we’re at it!!

      • Owl

        No I dont think he is on the picket line.
        Bilcaro another interetsing guy

  • doshi

     Well at least you are not a wise owl
    All this shite about finding out who I am  and the obsession with what I write.
    I may be the whale in drag trying to lift the ratings on this blog 
    It has certainly worked as every time I make a comment,there are over 100 contributions and not many complimentary.
    If it was not for the likes of myself this debate would be extremely boring as   you all would have no one to vent your right wing anger at.
    I am of the opinion that this blog is totally made up of comments of the far right and any contrary opinion is immediately attacked in a way that  you would almost want to drive any other persons opinion that you do not agree with off this site.
    I have a lot better things to do and only came upon this right wing stuff by mistake and as I  am one not to back down from a fight,i took up the challenge.
    But now because my opinions you do not agree with you want to expose me so i will leave this site to you.
    Really, if that is what you want to achieve you are what I always thought of you, locked in a right wing cocoon and to me that is quite sad

     

    • Salacious T Crumb

      Geez what self righteous crap. You call foul language, abuse and put downs “contributions”.
      You confirm every stereotype people have of union people Doshi.
      Don’t let the door hit you on the arse….

    • Owl

      so I was right.
      Thank you for your contributions – I will miss them. The OWL always focusses on process not personality. The use of the name John Key the Maggot was just a little too far.
      The OWL claims 3 – 0
      MUNZ non filing of returns – actioned by MUNZ
      NZCTU non filing of returns – actioned by NZCTU
      Unite Union non filing of returns – actioned by UNITE
      Doshi apologies – that not a victory – i will miss him

    • Light

      Farewell Doshi, I wish you well.¬† I have actually enjoyed having someone to debate with who has the complete opposite opinion to me.¬† I haven’t changed my mind about anything though although I have tried to put myself in your shoes to see if I can understand where you’re coming from.¬† I just can’t get past allowing the union heirarchy telling everyone what to think.¬† We’re not all right supporters here.¬† My whole life I’ve been a lefty until this particular dispute which has opened my eyes to the way that unions operate and their political tie ins.¬† I can no longer support Labour and don’t want to support National either so I now join the growing group known as disaffected voters and probably won’t bother to vote next time for the first time in my life.¬† You’ve been quite brave here – brave or foolish or both – but good on you for having a go.¬† I had a go at The Standard and got mashed down so will hang out here now.

      Enjoy the path

    • Biker

      Haha, mate, we share this thing in common – people trying to find out who we are, and both on whale oil.¬† If you hadn’t gone on about man talk and tuvaluans you wouldn’t have set off alarm bells that you might be Graeme McKean and made the masses who are already enraged at Coach determined to out you.

      I posted on here and had a bunch of MUNZ who were posting at the time try to out me as a scab – which they got wrong.¬† Not so pleasant is it?¬† I guess it’s like the post that whale did a couple of days ago about being able to feel safe when you blog anonymously.

      Anyway – good luck.¬† Feel free to come back and gloat if you win.¬† Can’t guarantee a positive response to it though.

  • ConwayCaptain

    Dave

    when towing apart fromn the “brute force” towing when you try and tow/turn a ship berthing the power of the tow is the catenary of the cable.

    The towing evssel makes fast to the tow and pays out x amount of cable.  In Greg Ms case 3 shcak;les or 4 x 90 fathoms  360 x 6 ft of cable.

    As the tug takes up the weight the cable hanns in a v large bight so gthe weight of the cable pushing down starts the tow moving,\

    Now yoyu dont pull straight you pull at about 45 degrees to the heading of the tow to “break the suction” and once the town starts moving it is the catenary that keeps the tow movimgh.

    Am I clear??

    • Greg M

      Captain, my mistake I meant 4×90 feet, same as anchor chain.
      This was attached via adjustable bridle at tug, and 120mm x 30 metre chain bridle on barge. also ran a drogue on empty barge.
      Started the tow tied up to barges port shoulder, when we were out in the leads we started paying out wire. VS propulsion is a big help here.
      Catenary approx 6 metres below waterline

  • Greg M

    Also, I have done some cleaning today.

    • ConwayCaptain

      Very Smart down there.  Obviously not a Doxford and lotys pof scavenge fires and Paxman Gennies blowing up

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