Stand Down?

ŠĒ• NZ Herald

David Shearer has called for John Banks to be stood down:

Yesterday, Labour leader David Shearer called for Prime Minister John Key to stand Banks down from his ministerial portfolios.

Interesting, how come Charles Chauvel isn’t stood down, he is still under investigation by the Police for Electoral Act breaches…or perhaps Megan Woods, as she is under investigation too. Brendan Horan has also been referred to the Police, perhaps he should stand down from parliament.

Labour really don’t have a leg to stand on when it comes to election rule breaches.

While there is salivation and clamouring for a by-election in Epsom the Labour party and their fan club should bear in mind that Daljit Singh is yet to appear in court over his corruption charges from 2010….nearly two years later.

On top of that the Police haven’t even progressed the 20 odd referrals to them from the Electoral Commission some 6 months after the election. Given that yard stick of the importance that the Police place on¬†electoral¬†breaches I hardly think this will even get looked at until at least December and certainly won;t see a court room until after the 2014 election.

Trevor Mallard’s and Andrew Little’s defamation case has more chance of getting heard before the election.

  • Gazzaw

    Even should Banks be brought before a court Shearer will¬†be¬†back in the Sudan so he shouldn’t angst too much about it.

  • Kosh103

    Its not if others have done just as bad as old currupt Banks – it becomes a case of is he dammaging the Govt.

    It that happens Key wont blink before dropping him.

    • Mike

      ¬†How did you get to be a school teacher when you can’t spell to save yourself?

      • Dave

        Pre Qual for teachers these days.    My wife is a grammar and spelling nazi, when she corrected our Yr 13 daughters teacher, she was told to FO.   Principal saw it differently, teacher was reprimanded and told to check her spelling.   

        As a qualifier, i will admit I can’t spell, but I couldn’t be a teacher, I’m not left wing, blind, and as ignorant as Kosh, so I will have to stick to my own business I guess.

      • Kosh103

        Even more lies Dave, wow you are working hard today for National.

      • Bunswalla

        Kosh as many people have pointed out on many occasions, you seem to rant at people and accuse them of lying without any evidence. It’s as tiresome as it is pathetic.

        1. Specifically waht are the “lies” in Dave’s comment?
        2. What evidence do you have that whatever you say the lies are, are in fact lies?

  • Le Sphincter

    But of course M Banks  is a government minister , which makes ALL the difference.
     
    As for the other minor election infractions, do they carry a penalty of  2 years jail ?
     
    Then again, lets let this bubble on over the next  2 years to be resolved  during election year ?
     
    ¬†All the while Le Nationale is ¬†using the¬† Field¬† defence, of ¬†‘just helping a constituent’ write some cheques.
    ¬†M Peters was persued relentlessly over¬† his answer¬†¬† ( NO ) to did he know¬† the source of a¬† big donation- again by¬† Le Nationale and L’ Action
     
    Joy de vivre !
     
     

  • Eds52

    Ya see da ting is….. this Kim DC is looking like he is one very annoyed German… sorry kiwi. He may well have thought his little “donation” might have bought him a little breathing space or a few favours from¬†people¬†in high places i.e the “right side” of politics here. Now that it seems they did little to stop his arrest, his memory seems to have returned. Trouble for Mr B ahead me thinks.

    • Neil

      ¬†Don’t think that had anything to do with it actually – why was a $50K donation asked to be split into two lots of $25K? Strange – but then it wouldn’t stand out if it was two separate amounts from unknown persons. If Len Brown could name Sky City why didn’t Banks – ‘cos he didn’t know Sky City give to both sides? Just stupid. The biggest problem I see in this is our stupid laws around political funding. Should be like the USA – Geez even foreigners can go on line and find out who’s paying who how much….doesn’t stop lobbying…. but at least you know where the money is coming from.

      • Blair Mulholland

        ¬†US campaign finance laws, contrary to popular belief, are far FAR stricter than those in New Zealand, and NZ would be mad to adopt them.¬† Just ask Tom DeLay if we “should be like the USA”.¬† In fact, it was only recently that the supreme court decided that corporations could give money to campaigns, something which has never been illegal in New Zealand.

  • Phar Lap

    Shearer Lie-bours bum boy.”Stand down Banks “he says Think Shearer has got it wrong .His finger and comments should be pointed at himself..Saw him in the march of the desperate ,with some sort of a slogan on his shirt.He did remind me of¬† a ¬† bewildered¬† Forest Gump,appearing to justify his One Thousand dollars a day or around $250,000 per year salary.Up to now he wouldn’t lick the boots of Goff whom he replaced.

    • Kosh103

      Shearer has it 100% right. And once Banks becomes damaging to the Govt, Key will drop him.

      • Phar Lap

        Seems you have conveniently overlooked the comments regarding Shearer and his outdated use by date.Still that sums you up wee man,its not often you are right,and you are wrong again.

      • Neil

        ¬†Nah won’t happen – Banks has a portfolio on all of them…..

      • Kosh103

        Phar if you are that stupid that you think that Key wont drop Banks if he becomes toxic then you are dumber than I have been giving you credit for.

      • Chris

        Fuck off Kosh, you are waste of¬†everyone’s¬†time. Nobody cares what you have to say.

  • Phar Lap

    Kookoo 103 masquerading as a bent teacher.Wee man dumbo,You still miss the point ,Shearer is the person who should get stood down.Even you in your depths of despair should finally get my message regarding Shearer.

    • Kosh103

      Really, did Shearer accept donations knowing who they were from but lied about them being annon?

      If you have proof of that lets see it.

  • Bunswalla

    Hey Kosh you know when you spend every waking minute either spewing bile on this blog or marking those pesky papers that all you hard-working teachers have to do (by that I mean every teacher works exactly as hard as every other one and they are all excellent and none can or should be measured or compared, and certainly never sacked) …..

    … do you ever get the two mixed up? Does any kid ever get his homework back marked with the helpful comment “Still spewing your right wing lies again, still working for National are we?”

    Just wondering.

    • Kosh103

      Oh Bruns that was a very weak attempt to defend the increasingly currupt Key Govt.

      • Bunswalla

        Comprehension fail; it was a random impertinent question designed to highlight the pointlessness of the drivel you spray on this blog, and a genuine concern that if you don’t keep your two imaginary universes apart they may well collide.

        Go to the back of the class.

      • Kosh103

        And all it did was highlight your pointlessness in this thread.

  • Phar Lap

    Kookoo 103 you are so confused about yourself .I think you are full of mad dog shit. I reiterate
    Shearer should be stood down.What part of that sentence do you not understand.Again i say to you wee man you are full of mad dog shit.  

    • Bunswalla

      PL there’s probably not a lot of point trying to reason with someone that’s full of mad dog shit. He’s very confused about a lot of things but we tolerate his naivete as he provides a kind of Pavlov’s dog response to anything to do with gays, teachers, homos, gay marriage, National Standards, gays in general and gays who are Generals.

      • Kosh103

        Poor simple buns.

      • Bunswalla

        And….there you go!

    • Kosh103

      And you have not given any reason why. None at all.

      And you ignore Banks and his currupt actions. Typical right wing blindness.

      Yesterday when WO told me that he had proof that Len Brown had carried out questionable donation fiddlings and that no one wanted to hear about it, I sided with WO and said that was unacceptable.

      Yet you Phar and others like you will ignore the currupt nature of Banks and balther on about how Shearer should be stood down (obne presumes because of polling numbers).

      Grow up and open your eyes.

      WO might be a right winger, but at least he is an honest one and will call them on bullshit just as much as he will the left. Perhaps you should try harder to be like that Phar.

      • Phar Lap

        Kookoo 103 Yawn! Yawn! Yawn! You are still full of mad dog shit wee man.Shearer should be stood down.Get it dumbo.SHEARER SHOULD BE STOOD DOWN.

      • Kosh103

        Sigh, there is no hope for you Phar. Your eyes are closed too tight and you accept currupt right wingers with open arms.

        You fail to accept simple facts because they dont paint your beloved National lead Govt in a good light.

        No doubt you will Yawn at this truth and make some pointless comment.

      • Bunswalla

        Oh Kosh, you are still lying again I see. You are so crooked and “currupt” you can’t even lie straight in bed. Oh Kosh…

  • Dave

    Hi all…. ¬† I actually think Kosh is a leftie here to distract us from the issues.

    1) ¬† He doesn’t qualify anything he posts

    2)   He blindly argues and slings mud

    3)   He keeps coming back for more no matter how wrong he is.

    So, we should just ignore him, or recommend him for Leader of the Labour Party.   He seems very well qualified.   

    Sorry, I don’t like personal attacks, but have had enough of Kosh for the reminder of the year.

    • Sarrs

      He calls anyone who doesn’t agree with him stupid, blind, or a liar. He doesn’t seem to understand that it is possible to disagree with someone without insulting them or calling them names.¬†

      • Kosh103

        Oh sarrs are you going to tell lies as well? I only call people stupid, blind or liars if they are that.

        The truth is the truth and if Dave doesnt like it, too bad for him. He can simply stop responding to my posts. I however will still respond to anything he posts that I feel a need to.

      • Bunswalla

        Oh Kosh, you are still telling lies. Why don’t you stop telling lies Kosh?

      • Sarrs

        You’ve called me stupid, blind, and ignorant in the past – I am none of those things. You can’t state an opinion and then call it fact at the same time as telling other people their opinions are wrong.¬†

      • Kosh103

        Sarrs you would have deserved every one of those comments at the time. I make zero apologies and am not the least bit worried if you have a negative opinion of me.

        Odd are if you say something that demands it I will place those lables on you again.

      • Sarrs

        Fair is fair Kosh РI shall place some labels on you. You are a self righteous, egotistical, grandstander whose sole purpose on this blog is to insult and belittle the thinking of others. You are a smug hypocrite who cowardly backs away from any suggestion to provide evidence to bolster your opinion while at the same time attacking people who do the same as yourself. 

        You are stupid. You are blind. You are a liar. You are ignorant. You epitomise the reasons why the left is failing – you cannot see past your own personal views and agendas in order to find the greater good for NZ. Your outdated socialist views are doomed to repeat the failures of the past while the rest of NZ can plainly see that the road to economic strength is slightly more difficult than taking money off those who have earned to give to those who haven’t bothered. You may think you know what working class NZ is like but in reality you have no idea. You have a (presumably) secure job with a higher than average income and can afford to sit somewhere in the middle, pitying those below you and hating those above you. You heap scorn on those of us on here who dare to earn a good living, essentially declaring us selfish, capitalist pigs. We are not. I am tired of your pathetic, socialist rants at those of us who dare to have a different opinion from you. You are nasty and unpleasant and I pity any individual who has to deal with you in real life.¬†

    • Kosh103

      More lies from Dave I see.

      Esp the last bit about personal attacks. That seems to be what you are best at.

      • Bunswalla

        More lies from Kosh. Oh Kosh, you are such a liar.

  • STEVE AND MONIQUE

    Maybe Labour should have cleaned out their own glass house,before throwing rocks at others.

  • Phar Lap

     Message to Kookoo 103 assumed bent failed teacher.Lest we forget all our correspondence. ,Shearer should be stood down.Write this down,  a hundred times so you will never forget it..Shearer should be stood down.Do this and i promise not to say you are full of mad dog shite, or a wee  man.

    • Kosh103

      Poor sad Phar. Unable to accept that Banks is currupt.

      Gosh, just watching the news, Banks looks very nervous about the whole thing.

      • Phar Lap

        Kookoo 103 assumed failed bent teacher ,you are still full of shite and it appears twice as sloppy.To reiterate Shearer must be stood down.Hope you are writing the hundred lines for being such a   stupid wee man without any direction.

      • Kosh103

        No Phar, I am not writing any lines, and the likes of you have nothing to teach anyone.

      • Bunswalla

        Oh Kosh, more lies I see. You are really working hard for the loonie left tonight.

        Oh Kosh, you should really learn how to spell corrupt properly.

        Oh Kosh, how can you indoctrinate the kiddies you babysit about the big bad corrupt capitalist world if you can’t even spell corrupt?

        Oh Kosh…

      • Bunswalla

        Maybe you’re not writing lines, but you’re certainly writing lies.

        Oh Kosh…

      • Kosh103

        Good to see that Buns and Phar are as crazy and economic with the truth as each other. That way they will always have company.

  • Phar Lap

    Kookoo 103 Besides being thick you cant spell or write.     .Now thats a revelation.Shearer must be stood down. Lest you forget the correspondence,you probably have.Seems your attention span is nil.So once more to get into your biased ,   Lie-bour sycophant skull.Shearer must be stood down.

    • Kosh103

      And still your tinfoil hat is too tight.

      • TravisPoulson

        There you go again kosh. Offer some intellectual debate instead of hollow comments.

    • Kosh103

      The only thing I have to offer Phar and his stunted mind is contempt, and I am not overly concerned if you disaprove.

  • Big Bruv

    I like Banksie, his life story is one that demands respect. To raise himself from the shitty start he had into a self made man is something that all Kiwi’s should look up to. However, he is not, nor has he ever been, a true ACT man.
    It is time for the PM and for the ACT party to cut his throat and toss him out the back door, have a by election, get Catherine Issac or Don Nicholson¬†to stand (unopposed by the Nat’s) and start the rebirth of the ACT party.

  • Greg M

    The whole thing smells like a rat to me, but what is the point of him standing down?
    If we did that everytime something like this “allegedly” happens, almost the entire Labour party, and Winston first, would have been M.I.A. since about 2003. Go figure.

  • BR

    “No Phar, I am not writing any lines, and the likes of you have nothing
    to teach anyone.”

    It seems you don’t have much to teach either.

    You have mis-spelt the word “corrupt” in this thread no fewer than six times.

    Once, and perhaps even twice could be attributable to a typo, but spelling it six times as “currupt” demonstrates appalling incompetence for a professional schoolteacher.

    What a surprise that you don’t support national standards. You are exactly the sort of “professional” who desperately needs booting out of the education system.

    Bill.

    • Kosh103

      Yawn.

  • Cutpasteproject

    Disgusting comments from some of you “right-wingers.” I didn’t know that was another word for “arrogant and rude fucking prick,” but judging by the obnoxious and pointless abuse put towards another commenter with a differing viewpoint, apparently it is.

  • S N Nathan

    It was a mistake to support ACT in 2011 elections. Knowing what the polls were showing there was even at that time Banks himself was not sure of winning. The National’s support to ACT ¬†has given us ¬†nothing but grief. The tea cup saga and now this. May be this will not go to courts. May be it will drag on till next election. This is a distraction.¬†Unfortunately National now needs Banks more than Banks needs National. There is no way he is going to resign his seat. John Key is thinking “That damn cup of tea!”

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