Maori Myths and Legends from Parekura Hormomia

Parekura Horomia on Tuesday night in the house introduced us to yet another Maori myth and legend. He tries to give Gerry Brownlee a history lesson. From Hansard:

Hon PAREKURA HOROMIA:[...]It is not just about selling off the State’s assets, but it is the cunning little games that are built into it, like removing the Treaty rights. It is the constitutional document that agrees that there is a partnership in this country, and just in case that Gerry Brownlee is short of history, I will tell him. In 1832 a Māori carried the Olympic flag.

Hon Gerry Brownlee: 1832?

Hon PAREKURA HOROMIA: 1832.

In 1840 the other people came to this nation, and they ripped the land off. They took the land. There were actually wars over it. [Interruption] No, no, no—this is the truth.

No, no, no it’s not. Now Gerry might have only been a woodwork teacher but even he realised that perhaps Parekura, after scoffing all the sausage rolls had joined Winston Peters at the bar to drink all the free Olympics piss. I think it is kinder to accuse him of being grossly drunk rather than incredibly stupid….because Gerry was right in questioning the start date of the Olympics. The first Modern Olympics occurred in 1896 in Athens….not 1832 with a Maori flag bearer as Parekura seems to think.

Helpfully Wikipedia is our friend and they list all New Zealand flag bearers.

It’s worse than that, for Parekura though because the first Olympics any New Zealanders attended, let alone used a flag bearer was is 1920 at Antwerp, Belgium and the flag bearer was a very white looking Harry Wilson.

In fact it appears that the first Maori to carry the flag at an Olympics was Simon Wi Rutene, the tits skier, in Calgary, Canada in 1988…some 156 years after Parekura claimed a Maori carried the flag.

A speech this bad and this wrong could only have been a set up by sports fan, full time cyclist and part time politician Trevor Mallard as pay back for voting for Cunliffe.

Nice one Trev, got ‘im good.

  • blokeintakapuna

    It’s not like Horomia could only open his mouth to swap feet… there was no room in there for a foot next to the suasage rolls, pie, donuts, free finger food and booze…
    I bet he’d be strongly opposed to a fat bastards tax… on both accounts! That’s not the kind of double-dipping Labour MP’s like…

  • Markm

    I don’t find this funny at all.
    The guy was and will be probably once again , be a cabinet minister.
    How someone can be so ignorant and be am MP is beyond belief .

    I console myself thinking only Labour ( and Mana , Greens) could have such thickness.
    Labours Clare Curren makes a point of controlling the language , maybe it’s about time Labour tried controlling the intelligence.

  • Guest

    Ask Kris Faafoi. He was there.

  • BW_Lord

    While amusing at first, this is hugely depressing. Our hard earned tax dollars going to good use here, keeping his fat arse in pies and donuts.

    Surely he can be fired for gross stupidity?

    • Le Sphincter

      There was an Olympic games at LA …in 1932

      He just mis-spoke

      • Le Sphincter

        John Hoani Macdonald (6 October 1907 – 1 January 1982) was a New Zealand rower who competed in the 1932 Summer Olympics.

        And carried the flag !

        God Im good !

        • Sarrs

          No Sphinc, he didn’t mis-speak.
          He said it, was questioned by Brownlee and he repeated his incorrect statement. You mis-speak once, when you repeat it you are just plain wrong.

          • Le Sphincter

            You want high class bullshit spoken by Key- just look at this

            “If you look at 31 countries in the OECD, 15 are looking to raise the age either up to 65 or beyond 65. Of the 15, 14 have a current cost of super of 9 per cent of GDP,” he said.

            The fisking is this-
            Whatever the Prime Minister’s source for these numbers it is clearly not the OECD’s own Pensions Outlook 2012, released 10 days ago.

            http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=10814344

            AS for the Olympic flag in 1932, it appears to have been carried by a maori

          • In Vino Veritas

            Perhaps he just mis-spoke Sphinc. I see you are particuarly forgiving of that and I’m sure the largesse you’ve extended to Horomia will now be equally extended to Key.
            After all, it you take into account all of the OECD countries, and bother to look at the pension reports x the OECD, you will find that there are a good few that have costs of super higher than 9%. You would also note that a lot of the OECD numbers are for 2007 – 2010. They are freely available on the net.

        • Callum

          You seem to miss the context, he was trying to claim it occurred pre 1840 and the treaty. Clearly, he is wrong.

        • Jerry

          Ok, fine, he misspoke, nice find 1932. I learned something new.
          But how in gods green earth does that have a damn thing to do with Asset sales and the Maori Land wars?
          Riddle me that Batman?

          • Le Sphincter

            Seriously …. most speeches in parliament are like that- a jumble of facts and misplaced conclusions …and thats just John Key.

            Generally those who are the best read are able to speak with some coherence… and Key famously has barely read a decent book for decades.

          • Guest

            Sounds like Chris Trotter is talking about the likes of you?

  • Sir Cullen’s Sidekick

    Parekura “Horror”mia ……

  • Jimmie

    What a classic…..Horomia should stick to what he is good at – raiding pie warmers and all you can eat smorgasboards. Keep well away from anything that involves using brain cells .

  • Mark

    Notice he then goes on to talk about “rick pricks”. God save us …

    • Guest

      Its just rich pricks dont waste their money on stuff which end product is a giant turd

  • kevin

    We actually ‘pay’ this drongo? ffs

    • polishpride

      And you keep voting for them all every three years….
      George Carlin said it best..
      “I have solved this political dilemma in a very direct way: I don’t vote. On Election Day, I stay home. I firmly believe that if you vote, you have no right to complain. Now, some people like to twist that around. They say, ‘If you don’t vote, you have no right to complain,’ but where’s the logic in that? If you vote, and you elect dishonest, incompetent politicians, and they get into office and screw everything up, you are responsible for what they have done. You voted them in. You caused the problem. You have no right to complain. I, on the other hand, who did not vote — who did not even leave the house on Election Day — am in no way responsible for that these politicians have done and have every right to complain about the mess that you created.”

  • tarkwin

    The really scary part is, if Labour ever get back in this little story will probably get even more embelished. “A great Labour voting Maori chief carried the Olympic flag acoss the ocean to help the oppressed workers in 1066 AD” This will be taught to all primary school children and people on cultural safety courses.

  • Mediaan

    What this illustrates is that Maori find they can say any rubbish and we will be respectful.

    It has gone too far. Horomia stands in the highest chamber of our country and is there in dignity as a leader. They are becoming accustomed to making up tosh and then sending it out as public statements.

    White fellas, do something. Judges, start holding the ignorant little turds to the same standards as the rest of us. Journalists, you don’t have to listen to the drivel they made up between shrieks of giggles last week, or some slit eyed priest made up and fed to them Thursday.

    It is us. We have to wake up and say, stuff off with your lies and pompous over-statements. We have tried to be nice too long.

    “Just bloody shape up,” we should be saying. “You know it’s lies. Stuff off with your fucking Maori immersion studies and your fucking kapi haka that now replaces Math on Tuesday and Thursday.”

    • Le Sphincter

      Dont be a pompous twit- see above he mis-spoke.
      it meant 1932 and it was true

      • Mediaan

        Yes, I see the facts, thanks to you and others. J H MacDonald seems to have been a fine man, and clearly was linked via Rangitane (was it?) to Maori lineage.

        Of course, life was different then and he even tried to live as beyond race stereotypes. e.g. By living abroad for 40 years.

        But you also have to look t how Mormon these silly statements are being voiced.

        And Horomia sits there, month in, month out, seldom saying a word. This is one of his very rare verbalisations. One would expect care.

        • Mediaan

          I typed often, not Mormon. Computer goes strange sometimes.

  • Phar Lap

    One thing we can be sure of,looking at him, he has never missed a meal in his life.He has done very well off the backs of the paleface caucasions.

    • Le Sphincter

      Racist rubbish…. why dont just bring out the hoods and burning crosses

  • fecnde

    What’s the penalty for misleading parliament?

  • Neil

    Err – was it really necessary to include that simon was gay to keep the context of the story? Or did you mean it in the original sense of the word – he was really happy?!!

    • http://www.whaleoil.co.nz Whaleoil

      Didn’t know he was homosexual…i was using gay as in useless or tits which is what he was at skiing….unless DNF means something really good because he scores big on that front:

      http://www.olympic.org.nz/nzolympic/athlete/simon-wi-rutene#

      • Le Sphincter

        Rutene doesnt appear to be the first maori either or is John Hoani Macdonald not maori enough ?

        • http://www.whaleoil.co.nz Whaleoil

          Was still 100 years after horomia claimed and most definitely was trying to say it was before the treaty…watch the video poohole

          • Le Sphincter

            1932 or 1832, which one do you think he meant ? His speech doesnt meant to make any sense anyway they are just stonewalling

            And you were wrong about Wi Rutene, but I accept you made a small slip-up or would you think Johnny Hadfield could never be maori- because of his name

          • Mr_Blobby

            “His speech doesnt meant to make any sense anyway” cant you speak proper English like what we can?

          • pukakidon

            Turd pipe.

            Your about as smart as the big fat boy. Maybe he was referring to the famous Maori Olympics of 1832.

        • Greg M

          @ le sphincter
          Gunga Din, he clearly says in the video “before the treaty”
          Clean out your cloth ears.

  • Mr_Blobby

    Why all the controversy.
    Just so Maori to be living 100+ years in the past. My own recollection was that the closest thing they had to a flag back then was when they showed there black arses to visiting dignitaries.
    But it will probably end up in the current rewriting of New Zealand history, as fact, because it was spoken by a great Maori politician in Parliament.
    Much like the treaty they want to spout off about day in and day out. Somehow that became the Foundation document of New Zealand. Cant wait for the Maori dominated committee looking at our constitution to report back.

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