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National Standards progressing well

by Whaleoil on August 9, 2012

National Standards are progressing well. According to an email sent to schools today and coinciding with Hekia Parata’s press statement it looks like they are moving sensibly despite the moaning of the teacher unions.

[T]he Ministry of Education is not publishing a composite table of this year’s results.  What we intend to publish is the achievement information you have provided to us via your annual report, exactly as you provided it.  The information will be published as an addition to the ‘Find a School’ web pages on the Ministry’s Education Counts website.  Under each school page there will be a Tab entitled ‘National Standards’ which will have an exact copy of the achievement data as supplied by the school.  Alongside this there will be a link to the school’s most recent ERO report and to your complete annual report.

In order to enhance the quality and usefulness of the data, we will need to make improvements over the next few years.  As a first step, we will make three changes for 2013 which will be gazetted shortly:

  • There will be a standardised format for reporting the data
  • The format, will include reporting by year level, for schools with learners in Years 1-8
  • The data will need to be submitted, alongside charters, on 1 March.

Good move….standardised report templates so the teacher unions can’t try and obscure their data.

Parents are going to welcome this, along with the extra national standards information being made available on the Find a School website.

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  • Macca

    I would love to be a fly on the wall in a lot of houses when parents look at this in the privacy of their own homes and realise just how good it really is!

    Then they try to figure out why they,  the teachers and the unions were so opposed to it from the get go!

    • nasska

       I’d especially appreciate the fly on the wall take as the parents realise that their loin fruit are destined to be illiterate, innumerate kapahaka exponents fit only for a life on the dole.

      Then the joy as the penny drops & they see their childrens’ teachers for the self serving socialist union hacks that they are.

      • 2ndAmendment

        you still don’t get it.  Most NZ parents don’t love their kids and don’t give a shit about them.

        because if they did love their kids, their kids would be in a private school

      • Teachersrock

        @f0be14af4105d3f04fa977c1d08cff83:disqus  Clearly you have no idea how fantastic the public schools are, or how much private schools are the same as public ones. 

    • Teachersrock

      National Standards is about as useful to parents as a pair of shoes is to a man with no legs. 

      The reason teachers are opposed to National Standards is because they are rubbish. Poorly put together, do nothing to lift achievement and are based on guessed levels. But if that is the type of bad assessment tool you like, then don’t moan if your kids cannot get a job or leave school knowing less than those before them. 

      • Dave

        So mr Teacher who thinks they rock, well, most DO.  But they also need a strong reality check, and a measure of performance, yup, PERFORMANCE.  A benchmark to judge and be judged against.       As for kids can’t get jobs…….  take a look at the real world, they CAN’T right now.   So many just don’t cut it, can’t read write or spell correctly.    National Standards ROCK.

  • Phar Lap

    Yet i heard the little tub of lard Turei from Red/Greens berating the whole idea, as if it was the end of civilisation as we know it.Of course the Red/Greens are the anti family and anti society Party.Their mission if given the opportunity,is to enslave us all in the image of their commie philosophy,as long as they are pulling the strings.

    • Phar Lap

       Perhaps we should run a league table on all political parties on how they recruit their list MPs .Most opposition seems to be from the Red/Greens,like they are afraid of being scrutinised on how they enlist,wet backs from overseas, yet at the same time they dont have NZ Passports.After all we pay for the list MPs yet we have no say in who the Red/Greens employ.Or other parties as well.

  • 2ndAmendment

    Someone please remind me why we have teacher unions? 

    • nasska

       ”We” don’t have teacher unions.  Useless, socialist teachers have teacher unions to  oppose change that would uncover their deficiencies .

      • 2ndAmendment

        Yes “we” do.  We tolerate them. We permit them, 

        We don’t do what Wiliam Massey / Sid Holland / Derek Powell – or even Chirs Walker – did to ‘em.

      • Teachersrock

        Hey 2nd Move to China, sounds like you are a hater of freedom and would enjoy it there. 

    • Mediaan

      If as feared some dumb-ass school has lost two overseas students on Paritutu Rock, by having them learning climbing above raging powerful seas with a two-metre swell, in the company of instructors from the outdoor pursuits centre that (undoubtedly) are deficient in communicating with students for whom English is a foreign language…

      Then I hope we see teachers and a principal in court on Reckless Endangerment Causing Death charges.

      Then we shall all see how good the PPTA is at defending its own. And maybe we shall see an enquiry into how the Selection of teachers Panel made such dumb-ass decisions as to put these twots into teaching.

  • le sphincter

    So thats an about face on a web site/league tables.

    So where will the Maori immersion schools be  ?  
    Not here as national standards dont apply. 
    Not charter schools as national standards dont apply

    • Whalerider

      It’s probably against the declaration of indigenous rights to publish league tables for the apartheid schools. Or maybe it was written in the treaty somewhere. We’re supposed to turn a blind eye to their “speshul” schools bro. They make their own rules.

    • Euan Rt

      Charter schools will voluntarily have all their data posted for all to see as they will be proud of their achievements.

      • Teachersrock

        HA! You will find most wont be showing anything off, because they will make zero difference and will not want to advertise that fact. 

    • BW_Lord

      More spin and bullshit spink,

      “However, they must abide by the national standards and must offer
      National Certificate of Educational Achievement or equivalent recognised
      qualifications”

      http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/7413052/Charter-schools-plan-crazy-union-leader

    • thor42

      Who gives a shit about the “Maori immersion schools”?

  • johnbronkhorst

    “Under each school page there will be a Tab entitled ‘National Standards’ which will have an exact copy of the achievement data as supplied by the school.  Alongside this there will be a link to the school’s most recent ERO report and to your complete annual report.”…..Cunning…..teachers report… “achievement data”….Ministry report…”ERO report”….next to each other…..brilliant…now if the teachers bull shit their numbers the more trusted ERO report will contradict them and  it is the teachers who will come out looking like fuck wits….forcing them to report properly or be seen gto be the dishonest arseholes that they are.

  • Richard B.

    I do like “ What we intend to publish is the achievement information you have provided to us via your annual report, exactly as you provided it.”

    So if any school does listen to NZEI and not supply anything, or just supply something dodgy, it will stick out like Dogs Bollocks.

  • davcav

    I wonder how much sheer panic there was in teacher lounges when this was announced?
    Two reasons:
      1/ Parents will get to see exactly how pathetic we have been acting and how uselessly we put this years report together and
      2/ We told all the other principals/teachers/boards how to fudge it but we have completed it properly ourselves.

    “Hoisted on your own petard” comes to mind.

    • Teachersrock

      Zero panic for the reasons you state. But outrage at the disgusting treatment of kids private information. 

      • Karlos

        Am I wrong when I read this as being listed on the website as ‘will include reporting by year level, for schools with learners in Years 1-8′? Are you saying this actual means ‘student by student with names attached’?

        This is no different to annual business reports (something you Unionists obviously know nothing about), should we be ‘outraged at the disgusting treatment of workers private information’ when these are released?

        I guess what I am trying to say in a round-a-bout kind of way pull your head out of the fucking unions arse and think for yourself for a change! If you manage this, welcome to the real world, we’ve missed you.

      • Teachersrock

        My only concern is for kids, not for noesy shits such as yourself who are dribbling at the chance to use the flawed National Standards to attack some of the best teachers in the world. 

      • Karlos

        My concern is for the kids, not some self serving unionists hiding behind rhetoric while ignoring the fact that they have the ONLY job in this country that doesn’t currently have a standardised measure to point out underperforming staff!
        Simple saying that those of us in the real qorld use, “You can’t manage what you don’t measure”.

      • Karlos

        I should also add, you are the one who said ‘Zero panic for the reasons you state. But outrage at the disgusting treatment of kids private information’ with absolutely nothing to back it up, and when I question it you call me a ‘nosey shit’ while answering none of the questions I asked! Sounds like a Union hack reply rather than an actual teacher to me.

  • Dave

    Geezzzzz  One would almost think Teachersrock was Kosh101 reincarnated.  As blind to the public view on teachers performance, and as vocal there is nothing wrong.

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