Taking out crims at 165yds

Guns.com

Check out these two videos about the case in Early Texas where a Police Officer was in mortal danger and an armed civilian with a better angle put down the criminal.

Sgt. Steven Means of the Early Police Department came rolling onto the scene, but he had barely gotten out of his car before Conner began opening fire on the officer. Means took cover behind his police car and returned fire with an AR-15, but Conner maintained cover behind a tree. Eyewitnesses report that this positioning gave Conner the upper hand over the out-gunned police officer.

Means and Conner weren’t the only two people with their attention riveted on the gun fight. Vic Stacy, another resident of the RV park, saw the gun fight break out as he was watching TV in his mobile home and thought to himself, “I’m going to see what’s going to happen here and if I need to I’ll, you know, get in on it.”

Stacy, who had a seen Conner around his trailer park and described him as “off the wall”, watched the gun fight for a few moments and concluded, “I think (Conner) is gonna take (the officer) out if I don’t help him out.”

So, that’s when Stacy decided to act. Conner may have had excellent cover against the Officer Means, but Stacy was in a flanking position that gave him the perfect vantage point. Stacy recalled, “I had a side view of that man the whole time standing there, and I thought, I’m fixin’ to put one in him, if I can.”

Brown County Sheriff Bobby Grubbs conducts a press conference at the scene of the shootings that resulted in three deaths north of Brownwood on U.S. Highway 183 Sunday afternoon.

  • p1llock

    That is a hell of a range to hit a target at with a pistol 

    • http://www.whaleoil.co.nz Whaleoil

      Practise makes it possible…lots of practice

      • Get a grip

        You jest for a 165 yard shot!   Even if it was the 75 yards which I think the old timer mentioned. A “regular” magnum size hand gun would have to be at least an 8″ barrel with a subsonic load to group much less than 3/4 inches unless he was VERY skilled.
        At 175 yards the mind boggles as to accuracy. Think I will go for the 75 yards and a long barrel.  :-)  Just saying :-)

  • Mr_Blobby

    Just imagine the cluster fuck it would become here. The Family would be on TV, playing the victim, saying what a good boy their son was and it was not necessary to kill him. No mention of the 10 pages of prior convictions. The media and politicians would be baying for someone to be prosecuted.
    There would be a public outcry about the shooter being charged and prosecuted, a defense fund organized etc.
    Eventually at huge cost to all involved it would be quietly dropped as trying to find a sympathetic jury for the prosecution case would be impossible. Not to mention the precedent it would set for self defense.
    My personal opinion it is probably better to be judged by 12 good men than carried by 6.

  • Neil

    One of those shot at this mornings chuch killings was the first cop on the scene….

    • grumpy

      Knew he was hit but are you sure he was killed?

  • GregM

    The civilian is clearly a sensible man who made the correct decision. He is also clearly upset at having to kill a man, but he saved an innocent life by doing so, good on him.

  • Vlad

    Vic Stacy, you are welcome to move in next door.  Sheriff Grubb, how about emigrating?  Wouldn’t mind to see you walking Queen Street.

  • Meg

    Another disgusting attempt to try and justify gun use on the day of yet another shooting at a temple in the US.

    Disgusting Cam really disgusting. 

    • nasska

       You realise that in the Mummy state full of cowered citizens you see as Utopia that the officer, not the arsehole would likely to be injured or dead?  Just like in NZ where the criminals are armed & the rest of us act as targets while we wait for the nice policeman to come & sort it out.

      When seconds count the police are only minutes away.

      • Meg

        Tighter gun control and limited types of guns on offer would see gun crime plummet. 

        Lets give it a go and see what happens shall we. 

      • Mr_Blobby

        Have to disagree Nasska. The first responder to any crime is the victim. Look at the case of the dairy owner who was shot, not only did the police stand back but they also stopped the ambulance that could have saved his life. Because they believed it was not safe to go in. Despite 1. Being told by someone onsite that the offenders had left 2. Logic would dictate that even the most retarded offender would be in a bit of a hurry to leave the scene.

    • nasska

       …”Lets give it a go and see what happens shall we. “…

      I’ve got a better idea.  Rather than disarm American citizens why not let the rest of us in NZ defend ourselves as we wish. YOU stay unarmed & see how it works out for you.

      • Meg

        Given we have a MUCH lower gun murder rate in this country and our laws are tighter, I am happy to tell America and people like you that you have got it wrong. 

      • carpentaro

         You’ve got it.
        Stats in UK knife murders are up. No gun, use a knife. No knife use a machete, baseball bat, 2×4…
        China knife murders,
        If the end goal is to decrease murders, getting rid of guns will do nothing.
        Why are all the libs so hot and sweaty about guns?

      • Meg

        @a987d3e53316b6f63aa859053c91250a:disqus  Open your eyes and see what is happening in the US, a gun nutjob happy country. 

      • GregM

         Meg, you have no idea of what you are on about. Have you ever lived in the USA and tried to purchase a firearm ? I have, and no, you can’t buy one at Walmart, . For a country with a population of 315,000,000, there was a total of 12,000 murders by firearms last year, and 127,000 murders by knife. ( figures rounded )
        Guess what? criminals don’t give a shit about the law, when NZ tightened up on the licensing regime in the 90′s, not one illegal firearm was taken off the street, and a whole lot of law abiding hunters decided not to bother renewing their licenses.
        Many years ago I lived in a small Westland settlement, the nearest police station, not manned 24 hrs, was at Whataroa, 35kms away. If some dickhead came through my door in the middle of the night, He would have got both barrels, and damn the consequences.
        You remind me of most Labour politicians, full of academic and feel good bullshit, but absolute zero practical life skills or experiences.
        You are an idiot, Fuck off.

    • Mr_Blobby

      Allow the general population to be armed if they want. Allow the use of unconditional force in defense of self or others. Ban criminals from ever owning firearms, with minimum prison sentences for having one. Give the power back to the victims. We would see crime in general plummet.
       
      Let’s give it a go and see what happens shall we.

      • nasska

         That’s the direction I’d like to see us take.  I live well out in the country & by the time the police showed up to any local incident rigor mortis would have set in.

        Yet even under these circumstances anyone using a firearm to protect themselves or their families will effectively be bankrupted by defending themselves in the almost certain court case.  I accept that the likelihood of a guilty verdict is not great but the law should be changed to allow for the presentation of medals rather than criminal charges in these cases.

      • Bobbyd

        “Ban criminals from ever owning firearms”

        Hahahaha, yep that will sure stop them.

        America has 50,000 deaths per year from firearms, they have killed themselves in far greater numbers than any war.

        Arm the population and you are not only also arming criminals but you are in effect making it mandatory for any criminal to carry one.

        If that’s the sort of utopia you envisage, then there is nothing stopping you from getting on a plane.

      • http://www.whaleoil.co.nz Whaleoil

        BobbyD…is the D for Douche?

        From Wikipedia:

        “There were 52,447 deliberate and 23,237 accidental non-fatal gunshot injuries in the United States during 2000.[4] The majority of gun-related deaths in the United States are suicides,[5] with 17,352 (55.6%) of the total 31,224 firearm-related deaths in 2007 due to suicide, while 12,632 (40.5%) were homicide deaths.[6] In 2009, according to the UNODC, 60% of all homicides in the United States were perpetrated using a firearm.”

        Sooo…you are trying to say guns killed all those people and if you took away teh guns then the deaths would stop…wrong…the majority are Suicides…what you would see is increase motor vehicle suicides, hangings, etc to commit suicide. if you are going to quote stats then get them right. Suicide is not murder.Oh and note the numbers are dropping from 2000 to 2007.

  • 2ndAmendment

    Note that the Conservatives is the only political party in NZ with realistic polices on police, self-defense, the castle doctrine, and prosecution — and without those policies there’s no way in hell Grubb or Stacy would emigrate to NZ.   

  • Sideoiler

    @ Bobbyd  ” 
    America has 50,000 deaths per year from firearms,”  No not so, try here 
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States  

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