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Hamas are evil

by Whaleoil on November 22, 2012

Martyn Bradbury hates Israel and supports the Hamas “government” in Gaza.

The people he supports do this to people. You will never see Israeli soldiers doing this, they follow strict rules. Hamas are nothing but scum terrorists.

Witnesses say masked gunmen have publicly killed six suspected collaborators with Israel at a busy Gaza City intersection.

The Hamas military wing claimed responsibility.

Witnesses said the six men were pulled out of a van Tuesday, forced to lie face down on the street and then shot dead.

Five bodies lay in a pile as a mob stomped and spit on them. A sixth body was tied to a motorcycle and dragged through the streets as people screamed, “Spy! Spy!”

Hamas posted a sign on an electricity pole, naming the six alleged informers.

Israel relies on a network of local informants to identify its targets.

The killings came during a nearly week-long Israeli military offensive that has killed more than 120 people, both militants and civilians, including three Israelis.

Image after the break. WARNING: It is disturbing.

Palestinian gunmen ride motorcycles as they drag the body of a man, who was suspected of working for Israel, in Gaza City

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  • Gazzaw

    Was the photo taken in Gaza or Cronulla?

  • Frank Thomas

    This is just another clear illustration of Hamas’ modus operandi.
    Firing missiles at civillians indescrimately whilst hiding behind their own woman and children to purposely acrew civillan casualties, disguising their vehicles as international TV crew, “pallywood” street theatre to garner sympathetic media coverage and so on and so forth. The list goes on.
    I just can’t believe that people can still buy in to their BS victim sob story!!!!

    • Neil

      I thought you were referring to the Zionists – they’re the ones still trying to drown us in their victim BS….

      • Frank Thomas

        No Neil, my comment quite clearly points out who is plays the victim card here and it quite clearly isn’t Israel. They just get on with the job of defending themselves from terrorist attacks……

        • Neil
          • Frank Thomas

            Sorry Neil, but I can’t be bothered arguing with somebody who just cuts and pastes a link without even bothering to say anything.

          • Neil

            OK I’ll say something – re-read your history – see the attached – produced by a Jew….like me.

          • Mostly_Harmless

            What does it matter if it’s produced by a Jew?

          • Neil

            It certainly seems to by some of the comments here – if you comment on one side or the other labels you.

          • GeorgeRomero

            Obviously it(hamas) was a failed experiment on the behalf of Israel Neil and the little bastards are biting the hand that fed it.It’s time to kill that failed experiment.

          • Mediaan

            What is the evidence for saying Hamas was put in on behalf of Israel?

            All its activities seem to have been focused on being popular, becoming identified with social welfare so they would be accepted as a Palestinian People’s government, stopping any peace processes and keeping the war with Israel going.

          • Alsh

            So as a Jew, you do not see the last 2000 years of history and especially middle of last century as entitling jews some measure or victimhood bullshit, but believe the Palestinians fate over the last sixty years does? And as a Jew what makes you use the word Zionist in the disparaging manner? In my understanding the Zionist movement aim was return of the Jews to Israel not world domination. You come across as self hater.

          • Neil

            I missed this comment – and I’m not sure you’ll read my response. You obviously don’t realise there are a large number of Jewish people worldwide who are ashamed and embarrassed about the Zionists and their radicalism. My personal view is victimhood is wildy overstated as a solution to any conflict.

  • swindle

    Strict rules of only killing non-jew babbies.

    • Mediaan

      Angry little boy. Been on the take all your life? Been borrowing, and now the lenders want some back?
      Work your problem out, get a job, and come back when you are paying taxes.

      • swindle

        Very anti-Semitic of you to link my comments with my financial situation.

        I do have a job and don’t owe any jewish illumanti freemason banks or whatever you’re referring to money.

  • bristol

    What? I am shocked! No, really? Bradbury supports ‘victims’ of unprovoked Israeli terror attacks against innocent, peace loving ‘Palestinians’. From hereon, Bradbury should now be known as ‘Suicide Bomber Bradbury’.

    • Petal

      Sometimes I can’t believe Martyn Bradbury believes himself. The man seems to simply be against everything.

      I guess it saves on having to think, compromise, or quelle horreur, agree with people you deeply hate.

  • Patrick

    When are the high profile Hamas apologists in NZ going to be asked if they endorse this?

    • Gazzaw

      When the MSM asks them Patrick. Don’t hold your breath.

    • Neil

      Brutality is not condoned on either side – but then I’m not an Apologist for Hamas – just the ordinary citizens on both sides of this battle of two extremist organisations, only one of which seems to have the world’s press on its side – why is that exactly?.

  • tarkwin

    I’m waiting for someone from Kia ora Gaza to explain how the IDF disguise themselves so well. They look just like Hamas to me.

    • Neil

      I didn’t realise they were that obvious – you sound a bit like the American South saying everyone who wears a towel on their head is a terrorist.

      • tarkwin

        I don’t think the IDF tow bodies through the streets of Gaza screaming spy. Looks like the work of a demented towel head to me aka Hamas. Which part did you miss Neil?

  • Jimmie

    Quite flash bikes for a so called poverty stricken bunch of nutters – I wonder if the EU paid for them?

    • Neil

      I wait to see if this photo is ever properly published – i.e. verified

  • Neil

    I find it amazing the fascists’ comments here supporting the antics of Zionist extremists in power in Israel. Palestinians trapped in the largest open prison on the planet have voted towards more and more extremist political parties in the hope of a change to their are the only victims. Two wrongs have never made a right (pun intended) and we’re being fed sympathetic bullshit by our apologist media for what exactly?
    http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/the-pr-war-over-gaza-israel-battles-to-influence-global-opinion-a-868475.html

    • Chris

      They wouldn’t be in a prision if they weren’t always sending hundreds of suicide bombers into Israeli towns. In fact many Palestinians happily and peacefully live in Israel in practically the only nation in the Middle East with fair elections, an open and free society and a law based upon western ideals of liberty and freedom. Palestinian support of factions like HAMAS echoes the brainwashing they recieve from the violent Mullahs that preach in their mosques and the Islamist eductions many of the now young Palestinian adults have grown up in a hatred fueled environment.

      • Neil

        I don’t believe so – it’s behind what radicalises people that is the problem – treatment of Jews in Russia and then Germany I’m sure helped create the Zionist extremists, the same as the treatment of Palestinians by the Zionist controlled Israel created Hamas. How many ex-terrorists became leaders in Israel and tell me there’s no control of Israel by Zionist extremists.

        • truthinblogging

          Interestingly Zionist extremists existed even before WW1

          • Neil

            I said helped….one of the reasons I included Russia – depending on how far you want to go Jews had been isolated and “encamped” well back throughout Europe – as some who’ve seen my posts here – revenge is a neverending story if you let it consume you and we humans so are good at it…

    • In Vino Veritas

      Is it extreme to retaliate if your country is constantly under attack Neil? I’d imagine if you lived in Israel, you’d be bleating about missiles hitting your house and asking for some action to be taken. And the action you’d ask for would not be providing the perpetrators with soft cuddly toys.
      Would Russian stand by and let Germany lob missiles into its population? France if it was Italy? China if it was Japan?

      • Neil

        Didn’t realise there were so many here – maybe you need to re-read your history…..by the way I’m Jewish – just not a Zionist radical….

        http://www.filmsforaction.org/watch/the_zionist_story_2009/

        • In Vino Veritas

          My comment had nothing to do with history Neil.

        • jaundiced

          Yes, Hamas may be evil and terrorism is evil. But too many of you are just stupidly ranting and it does sometimes help to understand history from both perspectives. Neil’s link is worth a look (although don’t let the facts get in the way of a good rant).
          And Veritas, thinking about the West Bank – would New Zealanders stand by if the Chinese built settlements just for Chinese (because some Holy Book said they could) all through New Zealand and brought their soldiers in to ‘protect’ their citizens through acts of thuggery on a daily basis.

        • Mostly_Harmless

          Oh yes, the old “I can’t be racist because I’m…”

          • Neil

            I pleased it doesn’t matter – at least to you. When I’ve commented before here on this I’ve been called a Jew Hater and other more delightful names – so I thought it easier to ‘fess up this time.

        • Alsh

          So as a Jew can you tell me how old is the prayer ” Next year in Jerusalem” and why ” radical Zionism” is bad?

    • Michael Ward

      “Zionist apologist media” Huh? Do you even follow the news? They rarely, if ever, give any airtime to the Israeli side of the story. On the rare occasions that they do, it is always accompanied by 2 or 3 times the airtime from the Palestinian side.

  • truthinblogging

    Wow, I really hope your not on the IDF PR payroll Cam,

    I still don’t understand how the Zionists can illegally occupy most of Palestine, collectively punish the inhabitants of the Gaza Strip, and still claim self defence?

    • truthinblogging
      • Bafacu

        And your point is what exactly? Don’t like it start your own blog and see how that works out for you!

        • truthinblogging

          My point is that Cam is a hypocrite, and a paid PR whore.

          • Petal

            ..and you can come here to discuss it and not be banned for it. Cool eh?

          • truthinblogging

            There has been little discussion from Cam on the subject.

          • RightOfGenghis

            Breath through your nose ‘truth’ and keep trying. Enjoy the freedom the ‘paid PR whore’ gives you to spout your peculiar brand of invective

          • Mostly_Harmless

            How is it hypocritical to get paid?

          • truthinblogging

            It is hypocritical that he is not disclosing which blog posts he is paid for.

          • Mostly_Harmless

            Why? It’s no one else’s business.

          • Pokerface

            I can’t see why it matters. I view this as a news site that I can comment on and test theories, and get a reply. MSM journos get paid for their pieces, and no-one can hear me scream!!

      • Alsh

        And we care why?

    • Neil

      But they are and are being encouraged and supported by the west….particularly the Zionists in power in the USA.

    • Travis Poulson

      There is no state of Palestine to occupy. Lets not forget, the palestinians have turned down every proposal to set up a legitimate Palestinian state. They also have themselves to blame, having voted in a terrorist organisation in 2006 to lead them to ‘peace’. Israel has every right to claim self defence, these rag heads have been firing rockets at Israel pretty much daily since 2001.

      • truthinblogging

        Right… you really helped your point with the rag head comment.

        • Travis Poulson

          Way to rebut my comment, nice easy way out. Finished pushing the paid blogging barrow already Deborah? I’m sure bomber will give you a pat on the back for your small effort.

          • truthinblogging

            There will be a vote at the UN soon to upgrade the status of the Palestinians.
            They are widely expected to succeed, with a large majority already recognizing and supporting a Palestinian state.
            Also, lets not forget that Israel originally nurtured the extremist Hamas faction against the secular PLO.

          • Alloytoo

            Can we expect a bit more from the Palestinians once their status is upgraded? Do they really want to abandon their cherished intergenerational refugee status that shields them from the consequences their behaviour would have as an independant state.

          • Travis Poulson

            Precisely. If past efforts are anything to go by, they won’t want to. Having a legitimate state would mean they would have to concede to accepting the borders they are within (or the pre 1967 borders) and that just won’t do, they want all of Israel and preferably drive the jews out, into the ocean, wherever. Having a Palestinian state just won’t do, they don’t want to play by the rules, or be accountable for their actions. Not that the UN does jack shit anyway.

          • Alloytoo

            An attack from a Palestinian state would actually formalize the war for Israel, whereas they are currently hamstrung in their responses.

          • RightOfGenghis

            Wow, the UN. Be very afraid!

      • Ururoa

        Israel has consistently elected leaders who committed the most heinous crimes including terrorism and ethnic cleansing, false-flag operations killing their own nationals in attempts to blame others, and extra-judicial murders around the world, all essentially justified because some books written a few thousand years ago says its OK. These leaders essentially created the PLO and Hamas through their own actions; if you keep pushing people, eventually they will push back.

        • Travis Poulson

          Of course, it’s all Israels fault.

      • Mediaan

        Sorry, TP, you had already said it.

    • Mediaan

      Israel was established with the support of the UN and international community, as I understand it, and there has never, in the whole period of Israel’s existence, been a state called Palestine. Israel offered one in return for peace, I am told, about a decade ago in Norway, but the Arab-and-Christian side turned it down.

      And the Zionists are just one section of Jewish thought, much opposed by other sections. Read Barry Chamish on the subject of Labor Zionism and how it has undermined the Jews.

  • Honcho

    Where are the targetted airstrikes when you need them? I can see 16 terrorists openly begging to visit their prophet

  • Neil

    Just one last thought – just wish it was more easy….

  • Ururoa

    If for every Israeli murdered by Hamas, 180 Palestinians are murdered by Israel, who exactly is terrorising whom?

    If you murdered my brother, and I turned around in revenge and murdered everyone in your entire street, would you even attempt to justify my actions?

    • Alloytoo

      Care to list the 180, how many go by the name of Lazarus?
      Can you please separate out the combantants from the Human shields.

      • Neil

        I hate the term – it’s an excuse just like when the USA starting used colateral damage – Anyone killed without a weapon in hand to me is a non-combatant and that includes the poor soul in the photo – which as I said earlier is still unverified.

        • Alloytoo

          Your definition of a non-combatant includes someone who has just launched a rocket, or just thrown a petrol bomb.

        • Ururoa

          Agree, no doubt Titokowaru and Hone Heke would have been called terrorists by the colonials in NZ. The Texans who fought at the Battle of the Alamo would have been called terrorists by the Mexicans. The Indonesians who fought against the Japanese in WW2 were terrorists as well. The word is pointless; people fight with the tools they have at hand if they believe it is justified. The only difference between a “terrorist” and a soldier is a uniform.

          • RightOfGenghis

            Ururoa, there is an uncomfortable truth in this

      • Ururoa

        Should I separate out the children killed walking to school or the grandmothers killed doing the laundry too?

        • Alloytoo

          Yes,

          Israeli civilian victims tend to reflect Israeli population demographics. The attacks are indiscriminant and thats reflected in the casualty list.

          Historicaly males from the age of 11 upward make up the vast bulk of Palestinian casualties.
          This is a significant variation from Palestinian demographics, which should also be reflected if the IDF were also indiscriminant in their approach.
          The conclusion that can be drawn is that males aged 11 upwards are not child civilian casualties, but rather active combatants, and that the IDF is very discriminant in it’s approach.

          • Ururoa

            Alloytoo, you really need to check your facts.

            2000 – 2012 data

            Palestinian minors (children) murdered by Israel: 1358 (all ages 6622)
            Israeli minors (children) murdered by Palestinians: 127 (all ages 1097)

            So Israel murders proportionally more children; 20% of Israeli caused killings are minors, whereas 11% of Palestinian caused killings are minors.

            One is too many.

          • Alloytoo

            You really need to learn basic comprehension skills.
            Males aged 11-18 are listed as minors, when they should be listed as combatants. That explains the disproportion.

    • Travis Poulson

      DIfference is the Israeli military don’t hide behind women and children like Hamas, so of course there’s going to be civilian deaths.

      • RightOfGenghis

        Difference is the Israelis don’t have to. They’ve got American firepower and technology. My view is if the boot was on the other foot and the Arabs finally got their shit together, the jews would unleash the final solution. And that would make Hamas feeble efforts look humanitarian by comparison

        • Travis Poulson

          Actually alot of their technology is their own now. Sure they still get alot of hardware from the US, but their own military innovation is nothing to be scoffed at. Not quite sure I agree with your ‘final solution’ comment, I’m sure if Hamas had the capability they’d have their own plans of final solution. The hatred runs deep on both sides. Iran is a large supplier of weapons to Hamas, and well know what ArmouredDinnerJacket’s opnion on jews is…

          • RightOfGenghis

            Well bite me. I just googled this and am agreeably surprised to find they are beavouring away on robot soldiers. Big ups to them if they can save a few lives on the battlefield. The PC brigade will object of course because they have got no-one to put on trial for war crimes if the machines are making the decisions

          • Travis Poulson

            I don’t know anything about robot soldiers. There’s a long list of their own developed equipment, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_equipment_of_Israel but its probably a pointless argument, as Hamas relies on Iranian weapons ard probably Russian via a 3rd party as well. I’m not saying the Israelis are saints and play entirely by the book, but when it boils down to it I’d rather they prevailed than muslims.

    • Alsh

      If you know anything of history of Jews over last 2000+ years they seemed to accept that they would periodically persecuted and murdered as part of the price they had to pay living as minority in other countries.

      After the end of WW2 and the establishment of the state of Israel, they decided they will no longer be the worlds wipping boys and stand up for themselves if some one bullies them. I believe their moto is “Never again”.

      Palestinians had many opportunities over the years to make peace with Israel, but they still hope that they will wipe it out and they will finish of what Hitler started.

  • Troy

    Having served in that region in the past I can without reservation say that the Israelis do NOT strictly follow rules and back in the early 2000′s when I was there I witnessed a great deal of provocation from the members of the IDF, and at times saw IDF soldiers kidding about how many women they wanted to kill. The Palestinians aren’t angels, but neither are the Israeli’s and anyone that thinks that its ok for the IDF to kill civilians (yup including kids too) just don’t understand the environment there. I agree that Hamas kill with blatant disregard for civilians too but often with the debates surrounded the conflict there, the media is without doubt biased and unbalanced. If any of you have had to walk thru a street carpeted with dead bodies, copious amounts of blood and limbs detached from bodies you will know its senseless – the IDF care less for that side of things, just as Hamas cares less, but FFS don’t paint the IDF as those with high morals because it just aint true. Before I left the Egyptian town of Rafah (bordering Gaza) last time I spoke with both IDF soldiers and a handful of Palestinians and I can assure you this conflict will continue for hundreds of years to follow – neither side has the will to compromise. There are dirty tactics from BOTH sides and to think otherwise that it isn’t is simply disingenous.

    • tarkwin

      Nicely said Troy.

  • blazer

    2 bitches…one overweight ,layabout from the left and 1 from the right…

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