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Perspective on Gaza

by Whaleoil on November 21, 2012

The other day David Farrar showed a picture showing a comparison of the area of Israel and Gaza with that of the Wellington region.

While that is interesting I thought a similar graphic for Auckland would show again the area under threat from Hamas missiles. The Israeli Embassy have kindly provided one for me:

If bad wogs with missiles were allowed to run amok then Len’s supercity would be rooted.

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  • Michael

    Least it would be more level for the train set.

  • Travis Poulson

    Any chance of moving Hamilton closer to Auckland? it’s out of range.

    • phronesis

      Of course the rockets could be fired from anywhere in Gaza so the area threatened is not a simple circle. I am sure the Auckland area would extend to include Hamiltron taking this into account.

      • Travis Poulson

        Still wouldn’t even reach Huntly if fired from Papakura according to that picture.

        • Greek Wedding

          Huntly.

    • RockyFist

      Even if they could reach, there is no chance in hell the Blues picking up the Super 15 title in the next 5 years.

      • Travis Poulson

        haha, comical bugger :)

  • GregM

    Lens ponderosa in south Auckland is in range, good, because Len Brown IS a fucking cunt!

    • blazer

      you are obviously a foaming camunist’.

  • blazer

    some ‘perspective’??

  • cows4me

    Wow, we might be a flea on an elephants arse but Israel is a pimple on a fleas arse. I know there is a website somewhere where you can pick an atomic bomb of your choice and nuke a city of your choice. Shit one decent bomb and it would be all over red rover for Israel.

  • stinkeye

    A country that small has that many nukes?

    • Honcho

      Not nuclear, conventional high explosive, still enough to topple a city block and completely unguided, point and shoot, pure weapon of terror

  • tarkwin

    Similar shape and size to the strip from Manukau Heads to Port Waikato. Maybe Shearer should shift there.

  • conwaycaptain

    Problems in the ME go back 1000 years when the Crusaders raped, murdered and pillaged their way through the area. Salal e din was an educated and cultured man compared to them. Most Muslim Gentlemen could read, write and compose poetry and theirn archetectural and scientif knowledge was prodigious.
    Unfortyunately through the centuries this has been destroyed by dictators and ill educated religious leaders.
    The modern problems in the ME was cause by the Zionists and the likes of the Balfour Declarationa dn the Sykes Picot Treaty. On top of this the guilt of the Europeans over the Progroms and the Holocaust wherby they dumped a mass of unwanted immigrants in an area and told the inhabitants to piss off. Remember the Palestinians are descendent of the Philistines who had been in this area before Moses etc arrived.

    • http://www.facebook.com/euan.rosstaylor Euan Ross-Taylor

      While I agree with you, the answer is not in going back. The same arguments can be made re the native americans, the aboriginies, maoris…. Going back is not the resolution. Drawing a line in the sand addressing legitimate grievances for compensation (and not just $) and looking forward together toward a negotiiated common goal. But frustrations arise when greedy people stir up dissent and seek to move the goal posts.

    • Alloytoo

      Point of order.
      The inhabitants were told to piss off by the invading arab armies and that they could return was the fledgling state of Israel had been obliterated.
      Those that didn’t leave now hold israeli citizenship and enjoy living in the only true democracy in the region.

      • UglyTruth

        The point being that citizenship is what sets the people of the state of Israel apart from the Palestinians, not religion, ethnicity, or he right of possession of the land. Democracy has a long historical association with imperialism.

    • In Vino Veritas

      The semetic Caanites lived in city states long before the Philistines arrived conway.The Philistines (who orginated apparently, from somewhere around the Aegean) only began occupying the south coast of Canaan at the beginning of the iron age. They were considered the most dangerous enemy of the Kingdom of Israel.

      • thor42

        And the Fakestinians are NOT related to the Philistines anyway.

        The Fakestinians are **Arabs** (from Saudi Arabia).

        The Arabs marauded their way up to where Israel now is in the 630s (Jerusalem was taken by Caliph Umar in 638 AD – six years after the death of Mohammad).

        Anyway – the Jews had *already* been there for several thousand years by then.

        As for the Crusaders – sure, they had their share of cutthroats. However, **they** only came along **several hundred years** after the Islamic armies had already been rampaging through North Africa, Persia and goodness knows where else.

        The Crusaders were actually Johnys-come-lately on the scene. Never let anyone tell you that the ME problems are all the Crusaders fault – it ain’t so.

        The Islamic armies were causing utter havoc *centuries* before them.

        Here’s a video (1 of 5) in which Robert Spencer discusses all of this at length -

      • UglyTruth

        But for the Palestinians :

        “Apart from enslaved prisoners, the population continued to live on their lands, even after the destruction of the second temple [in 70 AD]. Some converted to Christianity in the 4th century, while the majority embraced Islam during the 7th century Arab conquest.” ~ Schlomo Sand

        Ariella Oppenheim isolated and traced the chromosome for the “priestly” Cohen line. “We find that Arabs also carry this chromosome,” she noted in a documentary film, which claims that some Palestinians are also Cohens, genetically.

        Source: Philip Weiss

        • In Vino Veritas

          But, Ugly Truth, it is a fallacy to call people “Palestinians” since no such state existed pre 19th century. And even then, it wasnt a state. Originally, the word “Palestine” was used to describe the consular jurisdictions of the western powers in the area. Parts of that “Palestine” are today in Lebanon and Jordan. Have the “Palestinians” been firing rockets at either of those two states to get their land back?

          • UglyTruth

            It is not a fallacy any more that it is a fallacy to refer to Israel as a people before the advent of the Zionist state.

          • In Vino Veritas

            Not quite correct ugly. Kingdom of Israel 1020 – 722 BC. There was never a state, country or province called Palestine before 1840. Even then, it was only a word use to describe a certain jurisdiction, and not a country, state or province.

          • UglyTruth

            Correct because Israel existed as a people before the advent of the Kingdom of Israel.

  • Mike Smith

    “bad wogs”??????

  • Michael

    If you have 12 minutes, I suggest you look here for why there is no independent Palestinian State on the West Bank and Gaza and who it is who keep refusing offers to create one.

    • Travis Poulson

      Cheers for that, it made for interesting viewing, and probably gives a better broad perspective on the ongoing conflict than anything else I have seen.

  • thehawkreturns

    No nation or peoples have voluntarily converted to Islam. The message of Islam, throughout the world has always been “Convert or die”. There are no moderate Muslims as it is oxymoronic. Islam does not allow compromise. At all. Period. There is no “looking forward together to a negotiated common goal”. Islam never negotiates. It waits until it can be sure to destroy all other cultures. Islam is not a religion.

    • UglyTruth

      Those who believe (in the Qur’an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in God and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.

      Noble Qur’an, Surah 2:62

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