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by Whaleoil on December 5, 2012

Jacinda Ardern – Observation by the Owl

Last week I “Owl’d” about Steven Joyce and a possible National Party strategy leading into the 2014 election.

This week it is Jacinda Ardern

The Owl is a watcher of Parliamentary TV and yesterday Jacinda Ardern (who I would be quite happy to have a coffee with) quizzed Paula Bennett (who I would have a wine with) about social welfare expenditure.

What Jacinda doesn’t understand is that a lot of us are far more experienced and knowledgeable of previous governments to know that Labour spent more than their fair share of dubious social welfare grants on. The student loan “bribe” which saw students head off overseas on trips. It was a pathetic line of questions which she knew the answer too. Which was 5.

There is no question she looks bright, intelligent, radiant smile and a confident speaker. Even more than most of her colleagues but not as skilled as Annette King or Maggie Barry who I enjoy listening to. They are great speakers. Even Gareth Hughes gets a leap on her.

However Jacinda Ardern this week receives the Owl’s Observation

Owl’s Observation

1) Where are your policies?

What I have been struggling with is that I as a taxpayer and voter have not read, seen or heard a policy on social welfare. Can you please direct me to where I may find them?

2) What are your policies?

You will have a budget exceeding $4BN if elected. What are you going to do with it? I want nuts and bolts as a voter please.

I am starting to think you are trained in Kevin Rudd’s school of politics – very well spoken, great on rhetoric, good sound bites and probably going to be a great talk back host but severely lacking on detail.

Finally when Russell Norman gets the Finance Minister role how are you going to dove-tail a social welfare program which shows a Green Finance Policy that wants to eliminate breeding and immigration (refer Greens Population Policy) and heavily tax Starbucks, McDonolads and Facebook while sending 246,000 people on the unemployment list when they close down manufacturing and primary industries in NZ.

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  • Frank Thomas

    The really scary thing is a we are looking at the prospect of a Labour/Green/Winston First coalition government. If you though 9 years of a Labour government was bad for NZ, imagine the damage these guys would cause in just one term!

    • http://barnsleybill.blogspot.com barnsleybill

      Winston will never share a cabinet table with the Green Taliban. He may well be the most corrupt parliamentarian we have ever seen but putting him around the table with weirdo’s, hippies and environmental nutjobs is a step too far.

      • Frank Thomas

        Are you so sure that Winston would never go into coalition with the Greens BB? Remember, this the same Winston that said he would never accept the baubles of office and then promptly accepted the position of Treasurer with Labour and prior to that, left the country in limbo for several weeks after making noises during the election he would support Labour and then ended going with National! So, I would say you cannot believe a word that comes out of his mouth prior to the next election!
        What is it they say about not being able to teach an old dog new tricks?

      • Mediaan

        Defamatory and stupid. I can think of nothing that justifies this remark. Looking for corruption, you would have to start with people in parliament who have been through a criminal process for it and been convicted.

        • Frank Thomas

          Corrupt and a hypocrite to boot. Mind you, he wouldn’t be the only poly to have those two attributes!

  • http://barnsleybill.blogspot.com barnsleybill

    Once Jacinda Ardern can point to something in her CV that demonstrates ever having had a job I will start paying attention to her. NGO’s, making the tea for Clark and being room meat for the war criminals in Downing street does not give you the life experience required to be an MP.
    The only reason she is getting any attention is because she is the first female Labour MP in decades that does not look like a bulldog licking piss off a thistle.

    • Scanner

      BB the last two lines are truest statement of the week, bravo.

    • Owl

      Oops as you know the Owl does not like that language and was merely making my observation. I apologise to Jacinda and all female MP’s.

      To back up my case on the primary industry being closed down, interesting statistics put out yesterday in Australia that since their carbon tax policy was introduced manufacturing has been losing 1 job every 20 minutes or 35.040 jobs per annum. (Source Sky Aust News)

    • Vlad

      Consider this: Jacinda Ardern has only been in Parliament 4 years; she came within 700 votes of bowling Nikki Kaye for Auckland Central; she is already on the oppo front bench; she is being talked about as a credible deputy PM; she is getting some very clever ink in magazines; she is not tainted by any factional affiliation. This is a very competent politician to be watched like it or not. The CV includes time in the school of cunning hard knocks aka UK London Labour. Bogan & clearly undeserved comments about appearance are dumb.

  • cows4me

    Owl, if socialist Cindy was a farm dog she would be affectionately known as a turner. Turns good food into shit, I rest my case.

  • phronesis

    “Even Gareth Hughes gets a leap on her.” ;}

    • Owl

      Yeah I know but the guy speaks with passion and tries to put together logical speeches based on some research (validity not an issue as the public will always determine that – never under estimate the voter).

      Based on substance he beats Jacinda hands down

      • In Vino Veritas

        Owl, would that be Greenpeace research or scientific research?

        • owl

          The Owl’s research as always – based on information freely available in the public domain.

          • In Vino Veritas

            Sorry Owl, you have misinterpreted. I was referring to Hughes’ speeches “based on some research”.

          • owl

            from what I can gather he uses a combination – Greenpeace HQ research, random scientific reports and while some research is mainstream but most research is from tea leaves, crayon drawings and a large piece of paper with potato cut painting marks like the ones we did back in primary school. oh and the women’s weekly horoscope – esp the xmas edition which generally gives you the year ahead as well .

            I joke – mainly Greenpeace HQ stuff is the answer

          • In Vino Veritas

            Therefore Owl, as you say, tea leaves, crayon drawings and potatoes. Science left the home of Greenpeace many, many years ago.
            (your response was possibly the funniest post I’ve seen in a good long while!)

      • owl

        Jacinda was very rattled in parliament today. A really bad hair day. 30 minutes wasted today by Jacinda with her question…at what time did Paula Bennett know about the info. 1pm was the answer. Yep that created wealth and social services within NZ. Jacinda should stop reading on here before question time. I owner what type of wine Paula drinks?

  • Scanner

    Look at her bio – http://www.parliament.nz/en-NZ/MPP/MPs/MPs/7/b/3/50MP169781-Ardern-Jacinda.htm

    I defy anyone to haul out this document ANY qualification that will benefit the nation should Labour make it back to the treasury benches, that is unless that is if you consider the blessing of the two nasty witches from New York an attribute.

    My advice to JA would be 1. Grow up 2. Get a real job in the real world , then perhaps you can talk with some authority on the subject, in the mean time you should STFU.

    • blazer

      do you really think work’ as a forex gambler qualifies Key to be P.M?

      • In Vino Veritas

        Oh blazer, you really are a plonker, aren’t you? Key has been an auditor, a project manager, a foreign exchange dealer, among other positions at Merrill, Head of Global ForEx and on the ForEx Committee of the New York Federal Reserve Bank. He has managed hundreds of staff, been au fait with global economics (and micro economics in various countries), can read and understand complex financial statements (something Labour and Green MP’s should learn to do) and has an extensive understanding of economics, banking and finance worldwide. Experience that no person in the Labour or Green Parties can match, or for that matter, even get close to. Compared to Key, they are financial and economic illiterates.
        I would suggest that is vastly more experience that working for a political party at a minor level, Greenpeace, a Union or throwing mango skins to starving children in some dusty part of the world.

        • blazer

          a long winded way of saying he worked for Merrill Lynch.A coy whose piss poor governance and reckless gambling made it a basket case,that had to be bailed outwith taxpayer funds. ,

          • In Vino Veritas

            Piss poor governance and reckless gambling? Sounds a lot like the last Labour Government and the current Labour and Green Parties.

            Merril Lynch was such a basket case (it was never reported insolvent and did not file for bankruptcy), blazer, that it sold to Bank America for $50b. And you are erroneous to claim it was bailed out by the taxpayer. Do try and keep up blazer.

          • blazer

            you need to keep up!Bof A was bailed out on the condition it ‘buy’ Merrill Lynch….2 basket cases…BAILED!

          • In Vino Veritas

            Wrong again blazer. Do not try and rewrite history, it’s such a terribly socialist thing to do. FYI, BoA received around $45b in two tranches from the TARP program after it had acquired Merrill. BoA paid it all back less just over in just over a year from the first allocation.

            Also, you may be pleased to know, of the $290bn allocated under the TARP scheme, nearly all has been paid back, including a signficant profit to the Government from the sale of the Citibank shares they invested in.

          • blazer

            stop making things up!Get on the google,google eyes ,you don’t know what you’re talking about.TARP=BAILOUT!

          • Gazzaw

            Steady down blazer. I notice that you tend to get increasingly agitated as the day progresses. Mate we love having you here, you’re such great entertainment & we don’t want to lose you prematurely.

          • blazer

            don’t worry…you’re safe…I’m not prepared to take on being a ‘mod’ just yet.

          • In Vino Veritas

            Gosh, you are blowing a gasket blazer! As I say, BoA had already purchased Merrill before BoA received a TARP payment. BoA was bailed out, not Merrill. So, as I say, Merrill never received a “bailout” as you claim. Kerslappo blazer. Again.

          • blazer

            the deal was …BofA..you are buying ML whether you like it or not,OTHERWISE you don’t get bailed.comprenez?

      • Mediaan

        Defamatory. Totally invented.

        • blazer

          do you object to the word gambling?Sugar coated for the sensitive…forex ‘trading’.

          • Mediaan

            Can you read? IVV’s comment above has already answered you. Warning: it contains four-syllable words.

            But okay, we get the point. Your money savings are stored under your mattress. I take it you hate banks and interest earning?

          • blazer

            whats savings/interest got to do with forex gambling?

          • farmboy

            arnt we all gambling blazer im gambling fonterras milkprice will keep me in business fonterras gambling that people want our milk where all gambling nz wont get foot in mouth your local retailers are gambling people want there clothes,fruit,magazines and nike shoes accountants are gambling people wont say fuck it i will do it myself and see what happens or go to someone who takes bigger risks where all gambling really just like john key did and still does as pm maybe oneday you can have a crack at gambling mate what you say you feel lucky

          • Gazzaw

            Fuck all chance of blazer sticking his head up over the parapet and take a risk or two farmboy.

          • blazer

            if you only knew!

          • blazer

            do you have a point?

    • ConwayCaptain

      How can anyone, barely out of Uni, get a “job” as a Policy Advisor when they have no wroldy experience.

  • http://twitter.com/Inventory2 Inventory2

    Has Jacinda Ardern forgotten the infamous Hip-Hop Tour, funded through our taxes?

    • parorchestia

      Comrade, I assure you that Comrade Ardern would do it all again, Comrade.

  • Patrick

    She works on the strategy that she doesn’t need policies. She just needs to look acceptable & come up with effective sound bites. These days that is about all it takes to capture the voters. Gone are the days when the voters would analyse the policies. We work in 30 second “spans of attention” & then move on. All the media want is the killer line that they can lead their news report with. Doesn’t matter that it holds litle truth as long as it grabs the audience.

    • Hazards001

      Scary isn’t it? The exact same methods that create the bubbleheaded pop muso’s of today work in politics too.

  • blazer

    stupid questions.As if she formulates her own policies.Most commentators observers realise the parties make policy.

    • Mediaan

      You would know.

      • blazer

        now you do too.

  • Phar Lap

    Heard her saying to Stephen Joyce on radio today.Would you like to talk about the polls.Arrogance beyond borders,would be really funny ,except she gets nearly $200,000 for such utterances.The dumbo voters support such an insignificant little tart,and give her a platform to spin her bile.

    • Mediaan

      Be fair! The voters didn’t support her. They saw through her.

      Like Wussel, Wetiria and every member of Green she is List. Not one Green candidate received popular support. Ditto NZ First.

      The biggest problem we have with these List MPs is they don’t have any work to do. They become noisy nothings. Put them on cleaning and gardening duties around Parliament.

      • Scanner

        Make her and all the worthless list scum move to Wellington, after all that’s where there job is, not masquerading in an electorate as some sort of a real MP.
        While you are at it cut their wages in half as they don’t have any constituent responsibilities, cleaning and gardening round govt buildings would be a good way to fill in their spare time.

  • Phar Lap

    Silly little girl,with the buck teeth has been hung by her own petard.She accused the Nats of giving out money for other things to social welfare claimants,some of them used the benefit to fly to Australia.Well the programme was brought in in 2007 by the crooked Lie-bour Party and it has been discovered that Arderns party financed the flights.A total of sixteen in that year.I heard her on the ZB Hoskins show today blame the Nats,for numerous more flights.Six has been discovered.Whats your take on that “Sweetie” you sour faced lying wee bitch.

    • Gazzaw

      Well PL Ardern reckons that the free tickets provided in 2007 were to allow women to escape from domestic violence. I guess the implication is that those were totally justifiable and that the six provided last year were somehow due to negligence at the MSD under Paula’s watch.

      I say bullshit Jacinda. You scored a great SMOG yesterday.

      • Phar Lap

        Yes she qualifies under the heading.”Thieves scream the loudest when caught.”,she is a real little dirtbird.

  • ConwayCaptain

    She is 31. At 31 I had held a Master’s FG Cert for 5 years and had been Mate for 3 years. I was Mate (2nd i/c) of a 15,000 DWT reefer shipitha 60 and 30 tonne Heavy :Lift Derricks and traded from NZ to the Med and the UK and return. Had also done several voayges as Mate to the PI and had dealt with evryone from wharfies to Ministers of the Crown and Ambassadors. Had more world experienc thatn any in the Labour Party of that age and anyone in tnhe bloody Greens.

  • Travis Poulson

    The comments about her teeth/looks get a bit old and regurgitated after a while. Surely you lot are intelligent enough to pick her apart on her politics, surely there’s more than enough ammunition there?

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