General Debate – Ex Benedict Special

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If you’re late to the party, this may still be funny to you:  Ex Benedict.

With the Pope chucking  his toys for the first time since they were still burning witches and heretics at the stake, I suspect you need a place to let your feelings out today, so here it is.

Impertinent question:  If the Pope is God’s embodiment on earth and completely infallible by definition, who do we blame for him chucking the job in early because he doesn’t feel well?

Perhaps now the Catholic Church can get serious about addressing the major issue of child abuse that the now ex-Pope refused to confront, indeed he was even part of covering it up.

  • Troy

    It’s a farce. He was already elderly when he was elected pope and looking back at the coverage then it’s obvious he wasn’t going to last the distance (ie til death). A liberal pope wilil never be elected… this fucked up religion will continue to push the no-condom “rule” and thus in those countries where the catholic religion is prevalent will still continue to have unwanted births… it’s incredible that over a billion followers world-wide still think that’s ok. Stupid is as stupid does.

  • Ronnie Chow

    Thank god for that . Will his boyfriend go with him ?

  • blokeintakapuna

    My guess is that is why he’s feeling so ill.
    The Vatican is its own “legal country” within Rome… Even having its own police force, postal service etc.

    imagine the horrors behind those closeted walls that have gone on away from the public eye, committed by ego-driven souls vying for the supreme job. The continued and on going cover ups of child abuse by this institution under the cloak of sanctimonious spirituality, is one of the World’s saddest realities.

    Ego-driven humans attempting to better God’s intentions in His name are shameful to the extreme. Hell…. This Church still denies the reality of same sex relationships and the fact that there are more than just two genders of male and female.

    Sanctimonious hypocrites the lot of them… Purporting to be the earthly connection between mankind and God… Yet at the same time denying and avoiding God’s creations and wisdom…

    Heretics… Burn them at the stake!

  • Random66

    Maybe recognisng his part in all this, he has had a good talk with his concience and has decided he is too old to be waving such sins in front of God and has taken the necessary steps of turning away from what he knows is wrong. I’m certain nothing less would have him resigning, because wouldn’t the Catholic Church be crazy enough to think that if one died whilst being Pope you would somehow secure a better seat at the table?

    • unsol

      Maybe, he is old and very sick so that often brings about an epiphany. But then again, that could also just be wishful thinking.

      • Random66

        Agree, how one sees the world and death in particular often changes when you become aged or unwell.

  • Ronnie Chow

    From today’s Proverb ,

    “but the godly are well rooted and bear their own fruit.”

  • cows4me

    I believe according to prophecy this will be the last pope and after this one is done and dusted it’s all over red rover.

    • Travis Poulson

      All over with a world Catholic population of 1.2 billion? rrrrrriiiiight…………..

      • cows4me

        Sorry Travis it’s all over for everyone, not just the Catholics.

        • Lion_ess

          Are you referring to Nostradamus prophesies?

          • cows4me

            No Lion-ess I’m talking about “Prophecy of the Popes” and Saint Malachy. You would probably do better to read about it on Wikipedia rather then me trying to explain it but suffice to say the next pope is suppose to be the anti-Christ.

          • grumpy

            Wasn’t that the one before last?

          • Random66

            I haven’t read the prophecy you are refering to, but interestingly I remember talking to an elderly woman some 30 years ago and she said that there would one day be a dark skinned pope and that would signal of a time of chaos and change. Not sure about this, I don’t normally buy into these things but of interest I do see one of the possible contenders for the job is from Nigeria.

          • Guest

            She was probably talking about Obama.

          • unsol

            Nigeria – that is rather timely. I wonder if they like soccer….

          • TANSTAAFL

            Can Obama be Prezzie and Pope at the same time? After all, he’s perfect and never makes mistakes (infallible).
            Or how does (local boy) Pope Brian The First sound.
            Better shoot through before Saint Andrei points the bone at me

          • Travis Poulson

            I don’t believe in nonsense prophesies. I’d prefer to keep in touch with reality. Life can be shit enough without negative pessimists making shit up for everyone to worry about.

          • cows4me

            Fair enough Travis, no one is forcing you to believe in anything but in the same breath why are you worried about what other people may worry about, can they not make the same choice as youself and believe as they wish?

          • tarkwin

            Russel Norman is standing?

          • cows4me

            They want a pope not a dope, tarkwin.

          • unsol

            I always thought George Bush Jr was the anti-Christ.

  • blazer

    is this the ex Werhmacht pope,that deserted in 1945….?Ban on condoms…means more recruits for the cause.

  • GregM

    I see this as a massive vote of no confidence by the pope, of the very institution he is supposed to lead. This is going to be very damaging for the church.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=706456651 Nigel Sherrie Fairweather-Hunt

    i guess hes not a papal person.

  • Lion_ess

    What are the chances there’s a new scandal about to made public.

    • unitedtribes

      Just what I was thinking

      • unsol

        Ditto. The first thought that came to my mind is that he has allegations of sexual abuse pending that have yet to be made public. I mean, what are odds of a European priest not molesting children? Zero to none?

  • 4077th

    The best diversionary tactic in 600 years!

  • peterwn

    And NZ gets no say in the election. NZ’s Cardinal Tom Williams is about 83 which is above the 80 age limit for voting.

  • http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/ Petal

    • Lion_ess

      Brings to mind that Johnny Paycheck song “Take This Job and Shove It”

    • Mitch82

      It’s for posts like these that we cherish you, Petal. :)

  • unitedtribes

    “If the Pope is God’s embodiment on earth and completely infallible by definition, who do we blame for him chucking the job in early because he doesn’t feel well?”

    Perhaps his cosmetic surgeon

  • unsol

    I am incredulous that this man resigning is main news. He isn’t God, he is a man in a role that too many people place on a pedalstool far too close to God.

    Honestly.

    How ridiculous. His resignation from his ‘job’ (I use the term loosely) is about as important as mine at the end of my maternity leave. Not news. Not important. Just some old codger moving on

    Most people just don’t care & if anything, all this coverage does is give more ammunition to those who really despise Catholicism because of their silence on sexual abuse.

    • Lion_ess

      That’s an amusing way to spell pedastal US, I wondered whether it was deliberate play on pedo and stool :)

      • Mike

        “That’s an amusing way to spell pedastal US”

        As is yours.

        • Lion_ess

          Fixed, thanks, I stand corrected.

      • unsol

        It was but just realised I put an a instead of an o…oops.

    • Dion

      That’s Catholicism for you.

  • Mitch82

    So long, Darth Benedict.

    • Sponge

      Heh

  • parorchestia

    Will he still be infallible in his retirement? And will he be thinking: “Boy oh Boy, I can start living!” If so, which boy?

  • Auto_Immune

    I think he simply didn’t want all the media attention that came with becoming frail.

    Towards the end of John Paul II’s life most news stories were about how old/ill/incoherent he was becoming. Any messages the pope said were buried in the context of his fraility.

    So I respect the decision to ‘retire’. I just hope the next Pope is better for Catholicism and the world.

  • TeacherUnionsRscum

    So, what about that 15 year old that the cops “Bashed”, who was apparently not resisting at all and trying to get out of the way?

    I bet you she threw bottles at the police car, and resisted the cops. Cops don’t smash your face into the ground for no reason normally.

    • Mostly_Harmless

      Perhaps – but assuming that someone who gets beaten up by the cops must have deserved it is dangerous reasoning.

  • Tristanb

    I’m no fan of the Pope. But I think he’s only infallible when he speaks ex cathedra (from the chair). Popes have only done this a few times – that’s what Vatican II was about.

    Remember that plenty of other Christian groups harbour child abusers too. So do many other religions.

  • Shazza

    The Catholic Church, like many other religious institutions, are at all levels guilty of systematically covering up child abuse since it became criminal. Pope Benedict, in my eyes, should be tried in an independent court for obstructing justice and aiding and abetting child abusers.

    Remarkable that we are willing to let the Vatican get away with just a little bad press, particularly considering the amount of Kiwi kids affected. I should think our approach to the abuse of Kiwi children in any other case is quite different.

  • toby_toby

    Old, irrelevant man steps down from old, irrelevant job. Position to be filled by equally old and irrelevant man.

  • Shugmcglumfer

    If the next Pope is from Nigeria do we have to send him our bank account details?

  • Rodger T
  • Rodger T

    They have already chosen a new one , and things are looking UP. : )

    • Sponge

      Whats Brian Tamaki up to at the moment?

  • TomTom

    Lucia Maria must be having a bit of a sookie cry over her most beloved ditching his post.

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