Green economic vandals told not to be “wankers”

Rod Drury has attacked yet another case of Green party economic vandalism, yesterday he tweeted after Russel Norman attacked a company in parliament:

He followed that up shortly after with:

Russel Norman’s tinfoil hat attack is disgusting, ill informed and real conspiracy theory stuff. The higher these muppets go in the polls the more shrill they’ve become.  

Green Party co-leader Russel Norman has accused Prime Minister John Key of conspiring to establish a surveillance state in New Zealand by encouraging American data-mining company Palantir to set up shop here.

The comments prompted a savage response from Rod Drury, a business associate of Palantir co-founder Peter Thiel, with Mr Drury labelling the attack another example of economic vandalism.

It is economic vandalism. A company has established an office in New Zealand, is providing jobs. They state on their website:

New Zealand is agile, innovative, and the birthplace of our Palantir Mobile technology. Our goal is to bring Silicon Valley to New Zealand, and showcase New Zealand’s agility to the world. Palantir’s Wellington office is truly a start-up within a start-up, where your technical skills will drive the future of Palantir in the Southern Hemisphere.

And all Russel Norman wants to do is attack them based on whinging of a fugitive he now wants to re-home in New Zealand. Not only that the claims they are basing their attacks on are largely without merit.

Does anyone else find it ironic that Russel Norman is moaning about a police state when just last week he was imploring the Police to seize an MPs emails? He backed away from that though when he realised it would affect his conspiracy theory attacks against the Prime Minister for this week.

The man is a grandstanding, sanctimonious, hypocrite.

  • http://keepingstock.blogspot.com/ Keeping Stock

    Just don’t expect to see any Campbell Live reporter chasing Norman from the airport arrival gate to a waiting (green) taxi firing questions at him though. The MSM will let this pass without comment.

  • blokeintakapuna

    “The man is a grandstanding, sanctimonious, hypocrite.”
    You’re far, far too generous today…

  • Bob

    Russel Norman, Green Party Co-leader is an utter cunt.

    • Rusty B

      Love ya thoughts about this snivelling prick!! Eco-Terrorist and a zealot!!

    • steve and monique

      44 likes and climbing. The truth is hard to dislike.

  • Macca

    Like the huge majority of people you meet in life that are highly critical of the police, Norman would be the first to ring them if anything went wrong in his pathetic existence!
    Come to think of it, didn’t he want them involved in the ‘Give me back my fwag’ incident? Pathetic little pinko sniveller!

    • Patrick

      He was really angling for a cavity search from the Officer with fingers like sausages….you heard it here first.

  • chadchambers

    That’s not surprising, Drury and Thiel are business buddies.

    This is interesting – “The higher these “muppets” go in the polls…”

    Be afraid John Key zombies, be afraid.

    • Col

      Chad if you can’t say something positive, don’t say anything at all, you sound like Noddy Norman, half cocked and never get the question right!!!

      • unsol

        “Chad if you can’t say something positive, don’t say anything at all”

        Errm I think you are on the wrong blog

        Re Norman – spot on!

      • chadchambers

        Haha. That’s a good one Col. There is next to nothing positive said on this forum at all. It’s all bitching and moaning. The tone is set from the top and he is unapologetic about it. Just joining in.

        • Col

          Yes that’s true, so why do you enjoy coming over this side? to see how the other side lives?
          You are like Shearer popping into the Sky Casino Box at the Rugby, just to say hello. You Chad really enjoy coming over here, we set you up, and you bit like a fish, you also get excited when people reply to you ,right? We understand your lonely, those Left forums they have nothing to talk about, right?
          Its ok we love you too, we will all give you a friendly cuddle, we just wish you had more friends so we could play with them as well, love you to Butter Cake see you soon.

          • chadchambers

            Please don’t resort to personal attacks. I don’t.

          • Col

            Chad it is not personal, I have never meet you, and you are only a name, as far as I know you could be Noddy Norman, as that is the type of reply he would write, well he did say to the speaker the other day he didn’t like being called Noddy by Jk. But the speaker said Noddy should not have said in the first place ‘old cronies” to JK.
            Don’t get upset, we love you, because without you we wouldn’t know we are normal people, and we would have no one to give a hard time too, just like you give us a hard time. enjoy.

        • Red

          Chad – Some policy from your heroes, which you regard as shit hot would be…..?

    • Patrick

      Just for clarity – are you saying you approve of Norman’s recent attempts to erode the wealth of NZ’ers?

    • Justsayn

      Sorry Chad but the rise of the Greens is what is assuring the Nats victory – the voters in the middle who will decide the election might be able to vote for Labour, but Labour with a green minister of finance and a green deputy PM, a Labour/Green that will close their mines and factories… that is likely to be a step too far for most neutral voters.

      Go you Noddy Nutter!

    • GazzW

      Afraid of what exactly Chad? While extremist fruitloops such as Norman are in anyway associated with a green/labour coalition labour does not have a prayer of becoming the government in 2014.

      Labour needs to sort its internal factional problems, get back to its grassroots, cut all association with the greens and they might just have a shot at regaining the Treasury Benches in 2017. The greens are killing labour as a valid political party. Be afraid labour zombies, be afraid.

      • chadchambers

        Say what you like about Rusty Norman, he is charismatic and what he says resounds with an increasing number of New Zealanders, whether you like it or not.

        It doesn’t matter weather the vote is split between Green, Labour, and even NZF. Just as long as the vote is taken away from National, that’s all that counts.

        • Patrick

          The term charisma (/kəˈrɪzmə/; pl. charismata, adj. charismatic) has two senses: (1) compelling attractiveness or charm that can inspire devotion in others, (2) a divinely conferred power or talent

          Do tell Chad – where do you see Norman’s charisma?

          • blokeintakapuna

            Norman’s Charisma is parked in his garagesma

          • johnbronkhorst

            Sorry Russell would never have a charisma
            More like bicyclesma or a horse and cartsma!

        • SJ00

          No, he sounds like a guy that never has anything good to say, blames John Key personally for everything that ever goes wrong, and his ideas will bring this country into the dark ages. Alot of people think the Greens are about being green, thats why they get votes. Alot of people don’t see the real picture behind these nutbags.

          Tell me Chad, what exactly are National doing that is personally making you go backwards in life. Is your life worse off than it was 5 years ago because of National party policies? And what did Labour, Greens or NZF do that has personally made your life better.

          • chadchambers

            No, I’m doing ok. I find it telling that you asked the question about how I, myself, am doing. And there is the difference between us. I am concerned with social injustice and increasing income inequality. You are concerned with bathroom renovations and the new BMW.

          • Magoo

            The ‘increasing income inequality’ is due entirely to those who believe the govt will provide for them vs those who provide for themselves. Who do you think the poor are, right wing voters or left wing voters?

          • chadchambers

            Erm, no. Were largely talking wage-earners here. Wage-earners who are increasingly losing their right, through government intervention, to work together to lift their own quality of life.

            That is shitty.

          • Magoo

            What do you mean, give an example of these oppressed wage earners. I agree with your point about govt intervention which is why I vote ACT.

          • dyannt

            “Wage-earners who are increasingly losing their right, through government intervention, to work together to lift their own quality of life.”

            You’re talking about a union here….. right?

          • unsol

            There is no social injustice, more like the personification of Darwinism. Life is what you make it so if it sucks then you only have yourself to blame. And that includes being overwhelmed by trauma or tragedy; it is always a choice to live or to exist.

            Income inequality – absolute bullshit. One always gets what they pay for in life – cleaning & factory work requires minimal intellectual input so it is paid minimum wage. And so it should be. CEOS of major companies require a level of intellect usually beyond the capabilities of idealists such as left wingers so they get paid substantially more.

            The other key fact: people on high incomes rarely work 40 hours. I know SHOCK HORROR (like that JohnBH?!) – which means if you want to earn a little more you might have to, you know, do some work, do unpaid work, work full-time AND study…all things that many people who want to get ahead & actually get ahead, do.

          • SJ00

            Firstly I don’t have a BMW or a house to do the bathroom up in. I work full time and run a part time business in my ‘spare’ time.
            Well then by and large you shouldn’t have such a negative outlook to National if you are doing ok. Because if people like you are doing ok you are in a better position to help others. You see the government can’t magically make money appear (despite what Russell thinks). They need people like you and I to work hard and contribute.
            The social injustice is that people expect something for nothing. I bet 99% of us would love to sit on our arses all day and not work and get money to survive in this world. Doesn’t work that way, some of us have to work to provide for others and some of us would just like something back in return. Even thanks would be nice, rather than the moaning and complaining that what we give you is NOT ENOUGH.
            The increasing income inequality is because some people get up off their arses and work hard and create income. More than they need to survive. So they can give it to those that don’t.
            Do you think that we if paid everyone the same that all the problems in the world would go away. Whats that figure? $20 an hour? Why not make it $1000 an hour so we can all be rich bastards.
            You, Chad, are an idiot. All squawk and no talk.

          • Dave

            Chad, you can change the increasing income inequality, only YOU can change that. Lets see, reeducate yourself, get a promotion, a new job, a new career, start a new business, sell something, speculate, perhaps buy shares in Xero or invest in VendHQ, all good investments. Many have done it, almost every person can do it, the difference is motivation, attitude and a plan……

          • dyannt

            Dave, all Chad needs to do is stop working, accept welfare then we are one little step closer to closing the gap.

            That’s what really riles me about the socialist dream. Well-off people are expected to come down a few notches – not; let’s see how we can get struggling people up a few notches.

            And anyway, there will always be a percentage who are quite happy to stay in their ditches, and won’t thank anyone who tries to help them out.

        • Random66

          There is no way that guy is charismatic. Now Key is, so is Obama or even Clinton was – but certainly not Norman.

          • unsol

            Key & puppet on a string Obama are not charismatic. Clinton -yes. Adulterers generally are.

          • Dave

            Hmmmm now why would you say that Unsol ???

          • unsol

            Hmmmmm…I suspect you know DOT DOT DOT :-) that aside because it is also generally quite true. The worst people are often seen as the most charming, the most charismatic.

            What do you think about Key – charismatic?

            When I think Charisma I think beyond the superficial & apply the actual definition (which always excludes adulterers) – charismatic people are those who turn heads, who command attention & a natural respect from many people

            Thatcher could be one. But Lange for sure, Horomia (both were liked & respected by all sides of the house despite differences in ideology), Churchill, Ghandi (well not to the British!), Mother Theresa, Queen Victoria….

          • Dave

            Key, I think he can switch very effectively! He can be charismatic, but also communicate very well, he carefully explains things in simple terms, terms even Journo’s and labour voters can understand, and he can lead, tell his disciples what needs to be done. He is very close to Rob Fyfe in that regard! Thatcher, yes but a bit removed from reality, Lange yes, just as down to earth as Key, but Lange suffered from poor self control, ultimately his downfall and demise!!

          • unsol

            I like Key & I like how he leads NZ but I think you’re confusing personable with charismatic. Key is bland. An effective communicator when he wants to be – although I would say Joyce & Collins are far better, but hardly inspiring. He gets the job done, is likeable particularly because he knows how to be self-deprecating, but in terms of charisma he barely registers above Shearer & well, all current MPs.

            Rob Fyfe – Key pales in comparison! The man is hot & innovative!!!

            Lange – demise due to being powerless against hardcore left vs right in his caucus.

          • Bob Murphy

            Lange?? Respected by whom?

        • GazzW

          I don’t think that you understand Chad. Centrist labour voters and swinging voters won’t touch labour while there’s any possibility of Norman securing a Cabinet post. As a result they won’t vote labour, they sure as hell won’t vote green and whilst the odd one may give Peters the tick the majority will vote for the Nats. They might vote for the Nats reluctantly but they will do it on the basis of ‘it’s better the devil you know’. It always has been and always will be the centrist vote that controls this country.

          Labour’s alliance with the greens is just dumb shortsighted thinking. It will be labour’s downfall.

        • GregM

          Russel Norman has no charisma, he is a whinger. Kiwis don’t like moaners. and that’s all he does. As for the new bathroom and BMW, did that last year, this year the boat is getting a spruce up. I earned it, I spend it.

          • chadchambers

            And the increasing wage gap? Any thoughts on where that is going to end up?

          • GregM

            Increase your skills and the gap gets less.

          • chadchambers

            That might be partly true on an individual level, but the numbers clearly show overall, the world over, income inequality increasing, and at an accelerating rate. Greater forces are at work here and I’m concerned that our system in the West is not able or willing to arrest the trend.

          • GregM

            Agree, but the lefts solution is to make everyone equally broke, rather than give those at the bottom a hand up.
            You don’t create wealth by dividing it.

          • chadchambers

            That’s not true. It’s anecdotal claptrap to say the Left want to make everyone broke.

            They do, however, disagree with the solution of the Right which is to make everyone at the top even more wealthy in the vain hope that this wealth will trickle down, like crumbs off a table. In short, they want to try to get everyone “more” but using a method that gives those at the top exponentially more, which does nothing to halt accelerating income inequality, and in fact makes it worse.

          • rockape

            They may not want to, but they are not business friendl and allied to the greens even less so. The end result will be no investment that equals no jobs and that equals more on benefit. Of course the socialist utopia usualy means we are all equal but ata muchlower wage. Pick a socialist country and in most cases it is true. Greece is a good start.

          • jcpry

            Simplistic to say the left wants everyone to go broke but it is highly true that the left is losing its electorate as we become more educated and are less people likely to follow the left diatribe which above all requires people to be reliant on the state for the necessities of life.

            Unlike the 70′s when we were fed (and many believed) the line of bullshit from the communists about how successful they were (China with fields of wheat – the food bowl of the world while starving millions to death) we can all now see the truth behind the propaganda.

            We can see that the socialist models in the like of Greece, Spain and Cyprus don’t work.

            We increasingly understand that you have to stand on your own two feet to establish the lifestyle you want not what the state allows you to have and as a result we will gradually move to a center right alignment rather than a center left.

          • Magoo

            The government gives nothing to those who are high earners, they only take away through tax. Both right wing and left wing do this more to the rich than the poor. You comment that the right tries to make those at the top wealthier is claptrap, those at the top are wealthy because of their own efforts, despite the discriminatory theft of their earnings via tax.

          • unsol

            “They do, however, disagree with the solution of the Right which is to make everyone at the top even more wealthy in the vain hope that this wealth will trickle down, like crumbs off a table.”

            This demonstrates your basic lack of comprehension of 2 very basic facts: in a progressive tax system the more you EARN the more you pay in taxes, money is not handed out to high income earners by the government but the government certainly takes money from them. Second you cannot solve money problems with money – more welfare translates into more welfare.

            The wage gap will become less when people choose to earn more. Everyone has to start somewhere, it is just that some people choose to go nowhere.

          • johnbronkhorst

            The left may not want to “make everyone broke” but it is ALWAYS the result of their policies!!! If they don’t want to change their policies, it therefore follows that they DO want everyone to be broke.
            Socialism: The equal sharing of misery!…Can’t remember who said this.

          • johnbronkhorst

            AAHH Looked it up…it was Winston Churchill.

          • Agent BallSack

            He hated socialism. Mind you he was fighting the Nazis who believed in it.

          • IWantToBeLikeMallardOneDay

            That’s because people of Norman’s political persuasion were involved in the education system from the seventies onwards. Just the chickens coming home to roost from that one: no-one can do maths, or explain what an ion is, but we all know racism is bad…

          • rockape

            If the greens have their way there will be less jobs and the wage gap will widen. Difference is , the high wage earners will move their assets and businesses overseas. Australia was a workers paradise. When Labour get the boot it could well be a bosses paradise. If you want a job in an iconic Kisi company, you may have to move to Aus.

          • johnbronkhorst

            Some very clever man once said to me.
            “I’ve upped my income, up yours”
            How wealthy you become, will depend on how you interpret this.

          • dyannt

            Chad, are you by any chance suggesting that outstanding workers shouldn’t be suitably rewarded, if their bosses appreciate their skills and want to make sure they stay?

          • johnbronkhorst

            BTW…did he ever get his flag back?

          • Dave

            Enjoy the fruits of your years of hard work Greg, hope the marble and sandstone bathroom tiles are heated for these cold mornings!!

          • unsol

            Not mention you hope it has a good window & a good fan to reduce moisture al naturale :-)

          • Dave

            I am sure given Greg is installing a few friendly Maids Unsol, there will be a good ventilation, respiration even :)

          • GregM

            It has everything except hot and cold running maids, but I’m working on that..

          • Dave

            Happy to asssit with the maid selection Greg :) would even bring a “tui” or twelve

        • Muffin

          when I see people like you getting in behind idiots like the greens and labour, I know that Im right supproting national. Help us if retards like you and those you support ever get an ounce of power

          • Whafe

            Agree, I think Chad, then next thought is first livinig brain donor

          • chadchambers

            And the same is true in reverse, Muffin.

            Whenever I read self-serving drivel from a John Key zombie I feel I’m doing the right thing by trying to hold them to account.

            I bet you own a cat.

          • Muffin

            No I hate cats, self important preening animals, I have two dogs, far superior animals. I struggle to see how any sort of intellegent person can call what John Key says as self serving drivel, when we have been bombarded by blatent hypocracy and spew from the left for a really long time, but even more so over the past two weeks. And you are dreaming if you think they are holding anyone to account, all they want to do is get back into power, and they will say and do anything to get there.

        • Rodger T

          JesusFuckingChrist, you have low standards if you think RN has “charisma” ,LoooL.

        • Hazards001

          LMAO…Charismatic? Norman has the charisma of a skilsaw hitting a nail!

        • Ronnie Chow

          Apr 5, 2012 – The Green Party has hit a record high 17 per cent support.

          13 May 2013 Green 12.0%

          Yup,that’s increasing .

        • Hang him

          You don’t think wussel is so pissed off with what is happen in his homeland where ginger Ming is going down in flames that he is trying to take NZ with him. These socialist have the attitude if they can’t win no one will.

        • BJ

          Norman is true to his birth date – personality ziltch, very intense and idealistic ahead of reality every time.

        • Custard

          I would think of a French world war one trench over charasmatic to describe that guy.

      • Dave

        And the party that owns 50% of the Labour Zombies, controls what they think, say and do!!

    • Dave

      Okay Chad, time for you to put your metal on the line, Drury has a very successful career, and history, he has made serious wealth for a lot of people, and indeed NZ inc, and investors in his companies, and serves on many community boards, especially in his beloved Hawkes Bay.

      Do tell Chad mate, what the …….. have you achieved for your community, for NZ, for fellow investors and for yourself in comparison that gives you the right to criticize?

      I’m waiting Chad.

      PS Chad, have a close look at the share price of MRP say 4 hours before Russell and Sheeps stupid statement of economic terrorism, and then 4 hours after, undeniable evidance. And they used inside info against all stakeholders in NZ inc. That stupid statement cost every man woman and child in NZ at least $50 each (200 mill / 4 mill population) and we still don’t know how much higher MRP shares would have gone without their sabotage.

      • GazzW

        $200 mill would have hired a truckload of doctors, health workers and built a lot of health infrastructure. Straight out sabotage and to put it in commie terms that Chad would understand ‘a crime against the people’.

    • IWantToBeLikeMallardOneDay

      Which political science professor opened your eyes?

  • Col

    I m still laughing after JK gives Norman new name NODDY.
    Normal Noddy Norman.
    Noddy Norman.
    That Noddy goes on an on yesterday, even I was waiting for the Speaker to tell him too sit down..

    • Bryan

      does that make shearer Big Ears he has got them

      • Col

        Noddy Norman wakes up and looks out the window Sun shining,and said I will go and see my friend Nosy Shearer, so he gets in his car tots as he is going through town, a tells everyone he is going to see Nosy Shearer. He gets to Nosy Shearers house and tots up the drive, walks up to the front door and knocks 3 times, Nosy Shearer opens the door and Noddy Norman says hello Nosy Shearer, it is such a nice sunny day I came to see you, Nosy Shearer says to Noddy Norman, FUck off Noddy. Norman. And at the back door Noddy Norman sees Mallard running away into the trees trying to pull his pants up The moral of the story?

    • johnbronkhorst

      Wasn’t Noddy a stop motion puppet with a wooden head?

      • IWantToBeLikeMallardOneDay

        With a hand up his arse?

    • Dave

      Thankfully “Noddy” confirms his nickname to all Kiwis everytime he opens his mouth.

    • motorizer

      what is this “noddy” who ha. i would love to see a clip!

      our pm calls labour ‘muppets’ and russel norman ‘noddy’. we really do have a fucking great prime minister!

      by the by i heard a sound clip of helen on the radio the other day of when she christened a ship years ago as pm. man what a characterless piece of shit she was.

      • Col

        Yes we do have a great PM, and I heard that Noddy Norman got a Taxi to go to Auckland city but it run out of spinach ,and he had to get a petrol driven car.

  • Justsayn

    Like how Noram uses a black and white to hide his red roots.

  • Phar Lap

    Heard a discussion about the boy name” Sue” Russel Norman on the radio this morning.None of it was in the Australian’s favour.The discussion was about how they were all sick of him and his perennial whinging,and he was not even in Government.They also had a go at the picture media, and how they used the commie pest to fill some news gaps.Summing up Norman, the half owner of the potential NZ economy destroyer the” green party” are long past their tree hugging use by date.

  • tarkwin

    Australia must be so happy to have dumped this twat on us.

    • Agent BallSack

      …even swap for a kiddy fiddling catholic brother. I still think we got the better deal.

      • maninblack

        I dont want either of the fuckers.

        • tarkwin

          Aussie keeps sending our criminals back – we should be allowed to send this wanker back. I’d even pay for his ticket, cattle class of course.

          • Bob

            If we could get rid of red Wussel the whinger by just sticking him on a plane I’d gladly pay for a one way first class ticket! Unfortunately getting rid of this blight on NZ is going to more difficult.

    • rockape

      I just worry about all the other twats who thought the grass was greener that side of the pond and will come back and straight on the benefit, having payed their taxes to Aus.

  • unsol

    WO this is one of the first posts in ages that I have seen you use an expletive in the title – & it is only a quote.

    If it is a change in tact – I like it. Best to save the best words for the worst occasions.

    On the topic – I am not sure the Greens will ever meet such high expectations. In fact I would say it is impossible.

  • rockape

    I go out in the padock and tell my sheep not to be sheep. They are still sheep. Greens will still be wankers!

  • niggly

    Wonder when Wussel will start up a campaign against Google, ISP’s, company IT units, commercial IT providers? They variously keep people’s data, passwords, credit card details, private email correspondence etc, stored.

    And unlike the NZ or US Govt’s these other entities don’t have safeguards that allow ordinary people to find out what they know about them!

  • AnonWgtn

    Keep going Wussell – the more you spout your vitriol the more you will lose votes.
    Keep I up.

  • IWantToBeLikeMallardOneDay

    Just a luddite. A giant condom on the penis of progress.

  • Rodger T

    So did he ever get his flag back?

    • Hazards001

      “Gimmie back my flag…gimmie back my flag” Whining lil Bish

  • Tamaki

    Metira the Fat Waddling Duck, Wussel the dumb Dr, the Man child and The Cycling Yank should all take a hike. This is a hell of an ugly side to MMP.

  • Greg Davis

    Norman’s a cunt, but he’s merely a reflection of the products of state education. Need I explain what needs to be done?

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