The Great Whaleoil 2013 “Census”. Please help

This is primarily a reader-initiated “census”. ¬†Most of the statements were submitted. ¬†It is completely anonymous. ¬†Can you please take 2-3 minutes of your time and look over the list of statements?

They are all meant to invoke “yes” or “no” responses. ¬†Please ONLY tick the box if you feel “yes” applies to you for a particular statement.

It is up to YOU what you think the statement means. ¬†If you can think of all sorts of interpretations, you pick the one you think it should mean, and then answer. ¬†It isn’t scientific, you’re not being tested, your answers aren’t recorded against your name. ¬†Just be truthful and have fun.

This is also a serious bit of fun. ¬† It will be interesting for most of us to see what comes from it. ¬†So if you normally don’t participate in these sorts of posts, but you are a WhaleOil reader, can I ask you to please make an exception ¬†and join in this time? ¬†Thank you!

The results, as they accumulate, will display, but we’re probably going to run a number of summary posts so commenters can further discuss what they think it all means.

Poll over the break

The Great 2013 Whaleoil "Census" (tick as many as apply - answers are ANONYMOUS)

  • I have been overseas (94%, 1,539 Votes)
  • I am answering this faux census seriously and truthfully (93%, 1,526 Votes)
  • I own a car (90%, 1,474 Votes)
  • I am mentally active (90%, 1,468 Votes)
  • I am heterosexual (89%, 1,457 Votes)
  • I drink alcohol (87%, 1,421 Votes)
  • I think about the future (84%, 1,376 Votes)
  • I have fired a gun (81%, 1,330 Votes)
  • I live in New Zealand by choice (81%, 1,330 Votes)
  • I own my own home (with or without mortage) (78%, 1,275 Votes)
  • I watch some TV every day (78%, 1,273 Votes)
  • I believe parole is too lenient (77%, 1,261 Votes)
  • I am able to save money (77%, 1,251 Votes)
  • I have a smartphone (74%, 1,206 Votes)
  • I am physically active (74%, 1,205 Votes)
  • I am in paid employment (73%, 1,191 Votes)
  • I want less Government in my life (72%, 1,171 Votes)
  • I have children (71%, 1,157 Votes)
  • I have donated time or money to a good cause this year (69%, 1,131 Votes)
  • I've recommended this blog to someone (66%, 1,071 Votes)
  • I am married (65%, 1,067 Votes)
  • I believe David Bain is guilty (65%, 1,066 Votes)
  • I believe the law should be more strictly enforced (65%, 1,060 Votes)
  • I trust NZ Police (64%, 1,053 Votes)
  • I like pets (64%, 1,044 Votes)
  • I think it is important to be tidy (63%, 1,024 Votes)
  • I have read 1984 and/or Animal Farm (63%, 1,022 Votes)
  • I have lived up to my parents' expectations (61%, 998 Votes)
  • I support abortion (59%, 963 Votes)
  • I appreciate art (54%, 874 Votes)
  • I have killed an animal and eaten it (51%, 827 Votes)
  • I have smoked cannabis (50%, 817 Votes)
  • I read a daily paper newspaper (48%, 782 Votes)
  • I work to live (48%, 777 Votes)
  • I support capital punishment (46%, 745 Votes)
  • I have commented on this blog (43%, 708 Votes)
  • I am a dog person (43%, 706 Votes)
  • I am bothered by pollution (40%, 661 Votes)
  • I do volunteer work in some capacity (39%, 631 Votes)
  • I trust scientists (36%, 596 Votes)
  • I would pay a reasonable fee to keep Whaleoil going (33%, 541 Votes)
  • I am a cat person (33%, 536 Votes)
  • I believe in God (30%, 496 Votes)
  • I am more than a little overweight (28%, 462 Votes)
  • I gamble (28%, 454 Votes)
  • I am shy (27%, 447 Votes)
  • I think New Zealand needs a new flag (27%, 444 Votes)
  • I believe Fossy's ute is gay (26%, 420 Votes)
  • I believe in Intelligent Design (24%, 388 Votes)
  • I believe New Zealand should be a republic (22%, 359 Votes)
  • I have one or more irrational fears (22%, 353 Votes)
  • I believe child poverty is a real problem (20%, 326 Votes)
  • I play a musical instrument (20%, 325 Votes)
  • I still live in the town I was born (19%, 307 Votes)
  • I have performed criminal acts but nobody knows (19%, 305 Votes)
  • I believe aliens exist (19%, 303 Votes)
  • I have been fired previously (18%, 292 Votes)
  • I was born overseas (16%, 268 Votes)
  • I have been married two or more times (15%, 245 Votes)
  • I am or have been in the Armed Forces (14%, 236 Votes)
  • I am hiding a (significant) secret (13%, 213 Votes)
  • I believe Greens mean well (13%, 205 Votes)
  • I am female (12%, 200 Votes)
  • I live to work (12%, 192 Votes)
  • I own a motorbike (11%, 183 Votes)
  • I believe unions are beneficial (11%, 181 Votes)
  • I have been diagnosed as clinically depressed (11%, 180 Votes)
  • I believe animals are as important as people (11%, 178 Votes)
  • I am a "blue collar" worker (10%, 157 Votes)
  • I am concerned by Global Warming (8%, 137 Votes)
  • I avoid synthetic clothing/products (8%, 123 Votes)
  • I have a permanent physical disability (7%, 114 Votes)
  • I have a criminal conviction (7%, 110 Votes)
  • I receive a benefit (excluding Working for Families) (7%, 110 Votes)
  • I hate my job (5%, 87 Votes)
  • I have children with multiple partners (5%, 80 Votes)
  • I need to overcome hardship/poverty (5%, 76 Votes)
  • I trust television news (5%, 76 Votes)
  • I hate my boss (4%, 71 Votes)
  • I have been expelled from school (4%, 65 Votes)
  • I follow Whaleoil for my job (3%, 49 Votes)
  • I actually hate this blog, but I come here to spy on Slater (2%, 28 Votes)
  • I am vegan/vegetarian (2%, 26 Votes)
  • I am over 20 and have never had sex (2%, 26 Votes)

Total Voters: 1,633

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  • Rodger T

    How many times can we fill this census out?

    • blokeintakapuna

      It’s not the Greens referendum ya know… So only twice is my guess

      • http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/ Petal

        Look what Disqus did to that! lol

      • unsol

        why twice?

  • blokeintakapuna

    Yes it me expelled from school. Well, I would have been, had the “compelled to find a job” message not got through. 15 y/o, full motorbike licence after doing defensive driving course at Western Springs. Young, dumb…and full of youthful exuberance. After being caught twice in 1 day by form teacher bringing 2 different girls back into school, it was suggested I had outgrown school and i should find employment so I don’t disrupt the school so much, now that I was 16 y/o.

    Self employed for 17 years. The last 10 my own business. Up to 7 staff. Paid NZ Inc over $200K p.a some years in various taxes, so leaving school at that age hasn’t been the usual train wreck we often here about with young school leavers.

    Still can’t decide though if I should be proud of getting caught with a 2nd gal, or peeved at getting caught and the resulting fallout?

    Confession over…

    • http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/ Petal

      “full motorbike licence after doing defensive driving course at Western Springs.”

      Is that still going now? That was a fantastic programme. It cut off your provisional period from your your license. I did my test drugged up on codeine to mitigate a raging flu and passed with flying colours. This was in the days when Jap imports weren’t heard of, and the only attainable motorised transport for someone on the lowest of incomes was a motorbike.

      I still see bikers put both feet on the ground waiting at the lights and go “tut tut” in my head.

      Good to see your story BT. I have a cousin that couldn’t do it at school. He ended up helping out on farms, particularly driving various bits of machinery. He was labelled as too stupid. Some years later, before he was 20, he has saved enough to buy his own and started to contract himself out to various farms. Not long after that, he expanded to more gear, and by mid-20′s he settled the mortgage on his parents’ home and started employing people.

      Too stupid my arse.

      Working during the holiday break while at uni, I worked in a sheetmetal factory next to a man who was “too stupid” for a good job. He “only” did some sheetmetal work, and as I stood next to him, I picked up what he did within minutes and it wasn’t hard. Cutting and folding. He was 4 years older than I was. I lived at home, still a virgin, at uni. He, married 2 kids, own home, and a 3 year plan to sell up and move to the Islands (he had an Island wife). It bowled me over that he had his shit together so much, so early.

      Too stupid my arse.

      I’ve been humbled by many people who showed me that “Living IQ” and “Book IQ” are two completely different things.

      • blokeintakapuna

        Yep. I see those riders too and do the same. Left foot only on the ground. Not sure about the riding school. It was every Saturday for 6 weeks I think. Having been raised on a dairy farm in Maungaturoto, I had been riding bikes since aged 7 or so and tractors aged 11 or 12 ( flat paddocks, nothing dangerous) so the fundamentals were easy.

        Interestingly, if you failed a Saturday course, you had to repeat it the next Saturday until you passed the course. I never had to repeat a course, but those that did were the riders with 20+ years of experience. They were just too casual and probably too conceited/comfortable with all the bad habits picked up over years.

        One experiemced guy dropped his big BMW bike going over the see-saw. We all learned a lot that Saturday about complacency and bad habits on the road.

        • Muffin

          Why only one foot? I don’t ride

          • blokeintakapuna

            The right foot has the back brake pedal. So when waiting at lights or an intersection, the rider could/should have their foot on the brake, in case some one from behind accidentally “jumps” forward or the green light – thereby pushing you into the car in front, or worse, on-coming traffic.

          • pukakidon

            A car shunting you from behind will not be stopped by the 50cent area of tyre on the road!!!! I think that is a bit of a wives tale.

          • blokeintakapuna

            That might be true… But with a foot on the brake pedal, at least you have “some” chance…and that’s got to be better than “much less”

            Especially when on a bike…

          • sheppy

            i was taught that keeping the right foot on the brake when stopped prevents the bike from moving whilst leaving the right hand free to use the throttle smoothly when you move away.

          • blokeintakapuna

            Too true as well…

          • unsol

            One foot? But what if you have a real heavy bike – like a BMW GS1200?

          • blokeintakapuna

            Doesn’t matter… Or at least it shouldn’t. Balance is balance. In fact, balance becomes even more imperative on bigger bikes.

          • rockape

            Goldwings and there automatic bike stands are for whimps.

          • rockape

            You must have been riding Jap crap.

          • blokeintakapuna

            Yep, I was/did. Much better than nothing. But again, when sitting at idle, stationary, a balanced bike weighs very little. its conly when it gets out of balance when the issues arise. If the bike is too big for the rider to get off the stand, they should probably consider Something a little more suitable to their size. If they can get it off the stand… They shouldn’t have a balance issue.

          • rockape

            Much better on my old Norton, the foot you put down wasnt on the down camber side of the bike,therefore less danger of falling over.

          • RightOfGenghis

            Come on Bloke, stop trying to rationalise it. Two feet on the ground makes the bike look small and you look like a bloody pansy. Just wrong!

    • rockape

      Yes me too. 6th form night, racy sketch involving Prince Charles,the Archbishop of Canterbury and two corgies. It was supposed to be a surprise but it got out. Expelled but reinstated when we took it to the national newspapers. As for driving, was a late starter, When asked by my examiner 9 I was 18 at the time) what I did for a living. Had to admit I was flying jets!

  • mike

    Must quantify my response… I believe in aliens, but not the little grey guys who come down and abduct hill billy’s.

    Universe is far to big to only have us.

    • unsol

      I’m fascinated! I would not have picked that. But I understand the logic – so what kind of aliens do you believe exist?

      Edited to add…..and do you believe in God?

      • mike

        I have no idea what life is out there, but I believe that due to the sheer scale of the universe on the balance of probabilities (you like that one?) other life must exist. Waste of space otherwise.

        Although the Fermi paradox does create a few problems with this opinion.

        And no, as I am an Atheist I do not believe in any higher power.

        • unsol

          Haha nicely played :-)

          I would agree on both points….which means that you are saying none of us have no idea, but chances are there probably is something else out there than just little old us.

          And before you say….just like chances are DB is guilty….

          • mike

            “None of us have no idea” that’s a double negative there unsol… your statement therefore reads “everybody has an idea”.

            On the balance of probabilities we can safely say that there should be extraterrestrial life out there somewhere, just like we can safely say that David Bain is not innocent.

    • rockape

      If you dont believe in aliens who the hell do you think votes for the green party.

      • mike

        The people who get abducted by Aliens?

    • TomTom

      ‚ÄúSometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us.‚ÄĚ

      http://1111now.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/intelligence.gif

  • J.R “Bob” Dobbs

    More people clearly need to read animal farm

    • Michael

      It’s only 100 pages and George Orwell has deft usage of English in his prose.

    • Never in the dark…..

      It was mandatory back then, Animal Farm and 1984. Even got coerced into taking part in Bertold Brecht’s A Caucasian Chalk Circle.

    • James

      Animal farm was on our English syllabus at school – probably wouldn’t be here as it is more of a manual for the lefties than a warning. Same with 1984 too really.

  • Spiker

    Well, I guess I am one of the herd. Where’s the next field folks?

  • sniff the speckled ring

    seems about right…20% ingest other men’s bodily fluids legally yet it is a crime for 50% to smoke a little weed

    • Polish Pride

      Another Kiwi dies this week after simply consuming too much Alcohol. Yet still alcohol is legal and cannabis is not…..

  • unsol

    The benefit question should include Working for Families. It is a form of benefit paid for by others.

    I answered no to the child poverty question but if asked to quantify I would say yes it does exist because children are not being fed & clothed properly. However, this is because of poor choices – including number of kids people choose to have & that money can never solve money problems. So for me the better question would be do you think family poverty exists – the answer = No.

    I also think you should add the following questions:

    Who have you voted for since 1999 then list options
    Should David Bain get compensation
    Do you trust MSM
    Do you trust Cameron Slater
    Do you think the information on this blog that contradicts the version fed by MSM is accurate
    Have you ever been involved in a car accident where you were at fault
    Are you a nett taxpayer
    Do you road cycle
    Do you believe in Climate Change
    Do you think welfare helps or hinders low to middle income NZers
    Do you believe there should be a welfare safety net for those faced with circumstances BEYOND their control (excludes pregnancy)
    Do you think most teachers do a good job
    Do you think that the justice system should continue to presume innocence until proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt
    Do you think the justice system should continue to follow Blackstone’s formulation
    Do you think empathy is important
    Do you think most people have common sense & social skills
    Do you believe that politicians/heads of state have always exhausted all diplomatic channels before resorting to war
    Do you believe that regardless of your views on a war, the sacrifice of soldiers should always be respected
    Do you support asset sales
    Do you think NZ child abuse problem is our problem
    Do you think only Maori abuse children
    Do you think gay men are pedophiles
    Do you think the National party is divided
    Do you think Labour and the Greens will win the next election

    • unsol

      My answers:

      Benefit or WFF – no
      Family poverty: yes
      DB compensation: yes (I voted yes to his guilt)
      MSM: no
      Cameron: no
      Info accuracy: yes
      Car accident: no
      Nett taxpayer: yes
      Cycling: yes
      Climate change: yes
      Welfare: hinders
      Safety net: yes (quantify: everyone makes mistakes & shit does happen)
      Teachers: yes
      Innocent until proven guilty: yes
      Better than 10 guilty go free than 1 innocent go to jail: yes
      Empathy: yes
      Most people have common sense & social skills: no
      Politicians exhaust all diplomatic options before war: no
      Unconditionally respect soldiers: yes
      Asset sales: yes
      Child abuse NZ problem yes (quantify – it is costing us billions and these kids are NZ’s future)
      Only Maori abuse kids: no (but I think they bare the brunt of the statistics)
      Gay men are pedophiles: no. Most kids are sexually abused by heterosexual men
      National party divided: yes
      Labour & the Greens will win: yes.
      Gay marriage/ME: yes

      • kehua

        Explains it all really, don`t know wether to laugh or cry.

        • unsol

          Really? Why? Is that because you are a fat or unfit white an anti gay anti asset sales, pro welfare anti green heterosexual male child abuser that is on a benefit or WFF recipient with blind faith in the stability in the current government who believes the law only applies when it suits you (assuming you would answer the opposite to me given what I assume was snarky reply).

          • Travis Poulson

            Your response to him just goes to show you’re no better than everyone else you lecture when someone gets under your skin.

            His comment was nothing if not mild, and you flew off the deep end.

            Calling him a child abuser and racist, you’re skating on thin ice now.

          • unsol

            Nice of you to jump in here.

            A question is not a statement – feel free to answer those questions yourself Travis.

          • Travis Poulson

            Attempting to shroud your emotionally charged knee-jerk insult dressed up as a question, you don’t fool me.

          • motorizer

            fuck you must get sore fingers. how the hell do you type so much?

          • Travis Poulson

            Go have a cold shower before you lose the plot completely.

          • kehua

            Wrong,wrong,wrong,wrong,wrong,wrong, right,,wrong,wrong,and wrong. 90% wrong Lady, stupid is as stupid does.

          • unsol

            Well I would expect some of them to be wrong! So what are your answers then? Dont you want to know when given only a yes or no what others truly think on core issues? Or whether people blindly trust those who feed them information – whether MSM or bloggers? I do – there is stuff all polling with the ME debate being case & point so given this readership keeps increasing it would be interesting to see where most people sit on these things.

          • http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/ Whaleoil

            Calling someone a child abuser? Really? Take a breather voluntarily Unsol…for a short time…or it will be permanent.

          • Rodger T

            This is what cracks me up about blogs and blogging, when otherwise innocuous comments……..

          • Travis Poulson

            Indeed, along the lines of: “he threw a ping pong ball at me, I’m going to pull out this here sawn off shotgun me thinks”

          • TomTom

            Yeah, you might wanna go and reply to this comment regarding Unsol then…:

            “6 kids and a drunken husband later she may end up with a realistic idea of how life really works, `just sayin`.”

          • kehua

            Kia ora Cam ,I have shot better dogs than that bastard.

    • ThievingBastards

      A few more:

      Does anyone else think unsol’s opinion is as important as she does?
      Do you give up on her comments before getting to the end?
      If you do make it to the end, can you do it without rolling your eyes?
      Do you read her comments via the reflection of your battle shield?

      • unsol

        This is the second random rude comment you directed towards me. You have made 35 comments. So question is who are you? A troll? A blog lackey commissioned to try & spark up debate? Someone who has already commented, whom I am already familiar with using a new alias? Seems odd if you are a regular reader that you come on here to make one of your very few comments to throw ad hominem attacks at me. Surely you would choose more important things to consume your energy?

        But I will play briefly: Do you prefer to only read comments you agree with or is it that you feel most people simply don’t have the intellectual capacity to comprehend more than a paragraph important & often contentious issues should only be debated in 200 words or less (letter to the editor maximum)?

        Have a look at the questions – all relate to the main theme of topics on here & how the post has been introduced or how commentators have responded to the topics.

        • ThievingBastards

          Lovely story. I’m a very long time reader, short time commentator. I make no apologies for not meeting your comments per day quota to your level of satisfaction, nor replicating your militant patrolling of the blog to find something to comment on or launch your frothing responses. I guess you’ve got something here you didn’t have on your own blog: an audience.

          • unsol

            “I guess you’ve got something here you didn’t have on your own blog: an audience.”

            What blog?

          • ThievingBastards

            Unsolicitedious Rebugger. Lets not play silly games. Are you denying you ran a blog? As I said, I’m a long time reader here going back at least 5 years, and have a long memory. You even used to have your blog linked in your Disqus profile. Blog with one reader that was, Polish Pride lol. But I see you have it disabled now because no one reads it. (hence your fishing for an audience here?)

            Edit: anyway that’s my comment quota for the weekend, places to go, people to see…..I’ll read your response next weekend if I get bored!

          • unsol

            Of course not – I asked to see if you would expose a little more of yourself. So you are a stalker then not just a troll? And did you read any of my posts? If so which one/s?

            A couple of people clicked on my blog from here, PP was one of two people who commented on here. Lindsay Mitchell – one of my favourite bloggers & a few mums from mum blogs linked my blog to theirs. It was a personal blog as part of a writing assignment that I had to keep running for 3 months. I managed to keep it going on & off for about 18 months but it was just too much work….as you would have seen my posts were roughly an average of 1500 words each so it was more of a wannabe column than blog. It is still active but private until I decide what to do with it.

            In terms of stats I had a total of 13142 with the most ever views on one day being 191 – not too bad considering I had only shared it with friends & there are millions of blogs out there.

            End of the day everyone who comments on here whether blogger or not does so because there is a big audience. It is the top blog after all

          • Kimbo

            Yes, unsol, your first response to TB simply proved the maxim “explaining is losing”.

            Much better to go to the 1930s Stalinist solution when dealing with historically embarrassing members of previous politburos, and air-brush out the evidence.

            I suggest you need to get “someone else” to support you in the same way Stalin had his useful fools, like George Bernard Shaw. Now what are the chances polish pride or other ‘guests’ will be turning up any minute now to post in your favour or vote this post down?

          • Kimbo

            look, a down vote already!

            I must be a prophet.

          • Kimbo

            …and another down vote!

            My next prophecy: Cam, Travis and Petal will tire of unsol, and cut the umbilical cord of access to the site.

            By my prophetic powers I’m discerning, joking aside, that unsol has some serious problems, and continued access to an audience is simply a co-dependent act of facilitating those problems.

            Just saying…

          • unsol

            Kimbo there is no need to get ad hominem so early – I know you’re still bitter about failing to comprehend the idea that the State should completely separate itself from religion, but it’s a new day & a new topic.
            And how come you haven’t offered an opinion on the DB stuff? You’re clearly very intelligent so care to offer a view on how the lesser test one being innocent on the balance of probabilities seems to undermine the much higher test of presumed innocence until proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt?
            As for your prophecy – perhaps but does it matter? It is cyberspace & uni starts in a couple of weeks…

          • Kimbo

            he he he

            As those who’ve encountered me know I have my own in-built mental health issues, manifesting as they do in bloggers-Tourettes, you would have been wittier to reply, “it takes one to know one”.

            No, I don’t want to engage on David Bain. Not with you, anyway. Check back on previous posts. I’ve done so in detail on a number of occasions.

            And seriously, unsol, you need to stop feeding the addiction. Which I’m no doubt doing by this response.

            Byeeeeeee…..

          • TomTom

            Lol just cos you have mental problems doesn’t mean that others you perceive to have mental problems actually do…

          • Kimbo

            Oh, look, another troll/sock puppet in unsol’s wake.

            My capacity to prophesy accurately continues to accumulate…

          • TomTom

            Yeah. You’re totally better than even Ken Ring – 100% accuracy on a prophesy you didn’t even state.

            /sarcasm if you’re not that bright.

          • kehua

            6 kids and a drunken husband later she may end up with a realistic idea of how life really works, `just sayin`.

          • unsol

            When one has a realistic idea about life they don’t end up with drunk husbands & 6 kids.

          • Polish Pride

            To be fair you have lifted your game considerably since your original encounter with me.

          • Kimbo

            And here comes PP! Another prophect fulfilled! Man, I obviously have a career in the clairvoyant TV scam!

            And to clarify, the “No, I don’t want to engage” decision applies to those whom most would suspect, with good reasons, are simply sock-puppets of unsol

          • unsol

            Long time reader? Yes. New commentator? I call bullshit on that. I know you’re lying.

            My blog – so you’re a stalker and a troll? Read any posts? If so which one/s?

            I’m not denying anything, it was an OK little wannabe columnist blog (surprised your attention span coped with scrolling through 1500 or so words to check who commented or who was following me) set up to meet a writing assignment, It had a steady audience – which included Lindsay Mitchell, friends, a couple of people from here, mummy bloggers & a few randoms.

            Edit: deleted & reposting edited comment as was going to load a picture, but decided against it as any more of a response is unnecessary when replying to a troll.

          • http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/ Whaleoil

            TB doesn’t meet my threshold for a troll…you do come perilously close though.

            You should look up the proper definition of troll…it isn’t what you think it is or indeed other numpties like Clare Curran, Peter Aranyi and other assorted deluded pinko tosspots.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)

            Just because someone doesn’t agree with you…and given your chopping and changing on almost any issue that isn’t a difficult place to be in…does not make them a troll.

            Lift your game.

          • unsol

            You are on the wrong side of morality here Cameron.

            If you lie down with dogs you will get up with fleas; your inner Hyde is bringing a quantity of readers that will serve you no good in the end & defending them merely undermines any credibility you seek to have.

            By allowing people to attack others uncensored means you are not playing by your own rules & that you are merely allowing your blog to become about anything other than the core issues you are clearly seeking to address.

            I also don’t give a flying fuck how you perceive me or try to label me; I post my views on the topic not on ideology & if people choose to use that as an opportunity to get personal then I will give as good as I get.

          • Bad__Cat

            unsol ThievingBastards ‚ÄĘ 4 hours ago

            What blog?

            Bingo!!!

    • motorizer

      you could have put these forward yesterday.

    • RightOfGenghis

      “Are you a nett taxpayer”. Come on US, this is a right wing blog, don’t be naive. The bullshit brigade of weekday bloggers will be out in force on this one. Expect 100% “Yes” to this guaranteed!

  • Allan

    Wait people still buy newspapers?

    • Patrick

      Winter time – need fire starters

  • Patrick

    Only 12% responding are female, can we say 12% of commentators are female then? If so is WOBH going to go all PC & award 2+ upvotes for every actual upvote given to a female commentator, I mean glass ceilings & all that stuff, it is only fair isn’t it…..

    • unsol

      No way – the fact that it is a boys club makes it far more interesting; needing approval from others undermines ones ability to debate a topic properly.

      Edit: upvote because it was a clever & funny point :)

      • Patrick

        Thanks, I make the point because the same argument is used elsewhere – I work in a male dominated industry (IT) but the girls that are employed there are very good at what they do, they don’t need special privileges & are more than capable of holding their own.

    • blokeintakapuna

      Most will probably be still doing housework, before ironing hubby’s shirts, then preparing pre-cooked evening meals… And only then, after lunch, will she have time to sit and read.

    • Polish Pride

      Nah one of my favourite things on Whaleoil is watching some of the guys on here get there arse handed to them by Unsol :)

      • unsol

        Haha very kind PP. Have a look at thieving bastard above. What do you make of that? I do enjoy the ironic of how indignant some people are when I play the game by their own rules. It really is quite good fun.

        But seriously, the only thing that annoys me is that this could be a great platform for real change in terms of how information is given to the public & getting more people involved in the issues that matter.

        However, currently these blog seems to be increasingly consumed with pettiness & ego. There often seems to be an overwhelming apathy towards our big issues & finding real solutions for them and as a result, some really good people have left as they get ridiculed in the debates for daring to take a different angle. Sure blog numbers are increasing more than ever, but seems to me that quantity is starting to preclude quality. It is becoming a troll fest.

        • Polish Pride

          Hmmm I have a few self imposed rules when I post.

          don’t attack anyone personally on anything.

          Try to stick to the general topic.

          Try to remain respectful of others even when their opinion differs from mine. (I’ll have to break two of these rules in this post).

          Apart from that Whales hands off policy of letting people on here post what and how they want with very little moderation. In the end they will show themselves to be the fools, idiots and nasty pieces of work that they are.

          His first comment although very barbed did have an element of humour. He was taking it to the limit in my view. Given that comment though and his subsequent ones he is beginning to show himself as a nasty piece of work and as far as I can see you have done nothing previously to offend him and warrant his tone or personal attacks so he is falling into the camp of an possibly an idiot.
          He was probably bullied at school or perhaps even did the bullying and hasn’t quite figured out how to behave well and play nicely with others.
          I imagine that sooner or later he’ll pick on the wrong individual and have his arse handed to him. Guys like that generally do sooner or later.
          In summary there is no real justification to purposely try to make someone else feel shit in my book.

          • unsol

            Good rules & well said – I think you are absolutely right. And turns out he is quite the stalker too – has even read my short-lived wannabe columnist blog :p

            Given his short attention span I am surprised he even managed to scroll down the entire 1500 words (or so haha!) to see who followed it and/or commented!!!

            The funny thing is though, the mods often seem to be MIA when people like me (it has been happening to others) get subjected to crap from people like him, but the second we decide to give back as good as we get they suddenly turn up guns blazing. My guess is that supposedly personal attacks are only seen as such when they come from someone they don’t like and/or is on the opposing side of their preferred argument. With the exception being Cameron – he is a wild card and that is what makes him and his blog intriguing. He is filling a much needed gap when it comes to the MSM news & information feed (I can do without the porn & trash posts!)

          • Polish Pride

            So don’t give back as good you get. Instead rise above it and directly call them out on heir behavior (as politely and to the point as you can). Take this approach and they will look the fool every time.

          • http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/ Whaleoil

            “Apart from that Whales hands off policy of letting people on here post what and how they want with very little moderation. In the end they will show themselves to be the fools, idiots and nasty pieces of work that they are.”

            Finally someone has worked it out. ;-)

      • mike

        Who has ever had their arse handed to them by Unsol (or by you at that matter?).

        Unsol says a lot… but her arguments and logic don’t stack up most of the time. Just because she makes A LOT (had to put that in capitals) of noise doesn’t mean she speaks the truth or wins anything.

        • Polish Pride

          I don’t really keep a log and I do it in such a way as to ‘encourage’ people to change their behavior. It tends to be very effective. The end result is that they post more effectively and stick to the topic without the need for personal attacks.

  • motorizer

    What a total fuckin success.

  • Agent BallSack

    I missed the do you drink alcohol question. That answer should have been fuck yes!

  • motorizer

    interesting that at about 11am the question about being expelled from school the percentage was about 25% and then by 1pm it was 5%. does that relate to people who have been expelled are early risers?

    • Travis Poulson

      If we wanted to, we could really get out of control and enter point by point analysis of of each point in the poll, but we wouldn’t want to show up Roy Morgan. (or DPF ;) )

  • Mr_Blobby

    How much am I being paid.

    • blokeintakapuna

      The experience is priceless…

      • Travis Poulson

        You guys are so understanding.

  • LesleyNZ

    Oops I missed two of them to tick.

    • Travis Poulson

      all good, we logged your criminal conviction vote and “I gamble”.

      • Hazards001

        lol

      • LesleyNZ

        Ha ha – you are so funny!

      • LesleyNZ

        And I found another one! Interesting – only 12 spies on this blog?

        • Travis Poulson

          Only 12 revealed themselves with a vote ;)

  • OT Richter

    Good to see that 70% of us have a reasonable grasp on reality.

  • cruiseyman

    Good poll although a few grey areas for me such as aliens, capital punishment and abortion. I believe in God therefore I believe that there is more to life than what we see/know so I guess other forms of life may exist but I don’t know exactly what I think ‘other’ life might entail. Abortion; in a perfect world I would say no and it’s not something that I could personally do but I appreciate that there are circumstances where abortion is the most humane option. Capital punishment is something I would support if there was absolutley no possiblity of an innocent person being sentenced to death. The thought of that just turns my stomach. But I would fully support capital punishment in cases of child abuse/sex abuse/violent rape etc In the case of the peodophiles in the news today I would happily carry it out myself.

    • http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/ Petal

      “Good poll although a few grey areas for me such as aliens”

      Please tell me you did that on purpose.

  • Muffin

    Just 12% girls……..

    • LesleyNZ

      Need to improve that!

      • Muffin

        I know I cant beleive it. is it because:
        a) girls are mostly left leaning?
        b) disinterested now they have the vote in actually informing themselves
        c) not stuffing around during working hours like I am!

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