Anglicans to drop “no poofters” rule?

Things are perhaps changing in the UK…however not as you would think. On the one hand the Anglican Church is looking at removing its “No Poofters” rule, while on the other hand people are being arrested in the streets for preaching about sin. But first, in this post we can look at the refreshing change of attitude in the Anglican Church.

In his most widely anticipated address since taking over the leadership of the Church, the Most Rev Justin Welby insisted that it was now “absurd and impossible” to ignore an “overwhelming” change in social attitudes.

In a deliberate echo of Harold MacMillan’s 1950 speech which attacked apartheid in South Africa, the Archbishop warned church leaders that they needed to reassess their own attitudes to gay people – even if they do not “like it”. 

While insisting he had no immediate plans to change policy on issues such as gay marriage, he announced a major campaign to curb anti-gay bullying in the Church of England’s more than 5,000 schools.

He is understood to have approached Stonewall, which led the campaign in favour of gay marriage, to invite it into church schools to teach up to a million children about homosexuality.

“We may or may not like it but we must accept that there is a revolution in the area of sexuality,” the Archbishop said.

This is good, and reasonable, and about time. However in other news there is an underlying unreasonableness in UK society. See my next post for details on that.

  • Steve R

    While I really don’t care one way or the other on gay marriage , I do have strong opinions on the issue within the church . The bible ( a book they base their whole religion on ) has some quite clear and strong rules about the homos .
    If the god they talk about really is real , do you really think he changed his rules because of social opinion ? I really doubt it .
    This is way people have run from religion at great speed over the last few decades .
    I know a lot of people don’t agree with mw on this but facts are facts and the obvious needs to be stated .
    We didn’t even here from the weak churches during the gay marriage debate . There was a Time the church stood up for what it believed and what the bible said

    • cows4me

      We didn’t hear from the churches steve as most are now nothing more political mouthpieces for the left. If churches base their being on the teachings of the bible then their silence on the gay marriage debate has been deafening

      • Gayguy

        Given Christ preached love and acceptance and NEVER said one bad thing about homosexuals it is those who attack homosexuals who should be worried about what Christ thinks of them.

        • cows4me

          Oh dear Gayguy you still don’t get it. It’s not my business how you want to live your life my argument has always been a marriage was between a man and a woman. I know of no bible passages that say a gay union is “correct” or considered a marriage. Christ may not have said anything against gays but at the same time he did not promote said unions. Personally I don’t think you are bad my argument has always being that any gay union can not be consider a marriage. It never has been and never will be, fool yourself at you own pleasure.

    • Gayguy

      And the New Testament is all about love and acceptance. I am yet to have presented to me a single passage in which Christ condems homosexaulity.

      But if you have one, please lets see it.

  • Andrei

    He is understood to have approached Stonewall, which led the campaign in favour of gay marriage, to invite it into church schools to teach up to a million children about homosexuality.

    Matthew 18:6
    but whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a great millstone fastened around his neck and to be drowned in the depth of the sea.

    • http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/ Whaleoil

      How about you go do that Andrei and then use that text as your defence and see how it goes for you.

      • Mediaan

        Nasty. Why do you keep defending gay marriage proponents and grumping about the other side? Too much sleaze on the gay side for them to be good neutral parents, IMO. Therefore I oppose them being anywhere near schools.

        • Gayguy

          What a load of pure garmabe Med. Too much sleaze??? That has to be one of the most pathetic lies I have ever seen in regards to homosexuals.

          Get a clue idiot.

        • TomTom

          Lol. You couldn’t even construct a proper cause and effect: Gays are too sleazy to be good parents therefore they must be kept away from schools.

          You actual fucktard.

  • blairmulholland

    Bullying and discrimination is unacceptable. But since this is the Atheist Singing Club, I expect they will make a pigs breakfast out of it. Having given up so many other principles, why hold onto the other ones?

    • Mediaan

      And this statement is not bullying of atheists?

      • blairmulholland

        My apologies. I didn’t mean to taint any atheists by comparing them to Anglicans!

        • Rodger T

          LoL.

    • Rodger T

      I don`t suppose you could give us a list of the principles the “Atheists” have given up on ?

      Do you follow your bible Blair? To the letter or just the bits you want to follow ?

      • blairmulholland

        I follow Jesus as revealed by the Holy Tradition of the Church, of which the Bible forms the most important part. I fall short of God’s standard and pray for His mercy. The Anglicans don’t seem to know what they believe, which is why I call them the Atheist Singing Club.

        • cows4me

          “I fall short of God’s standard”, give it a rest blair you weren’t meant to be perfect, join the club.

          • blairmulholland

            I was asked a question as to whether I “followed my Bible”, and that was how I answered it. I’m not sure what you want given a rest. Not sure what else I was supposed to say.

        • Gayguy

          If you really follow Christ then you should be saying not one negative thing about homosexuals.

          But then too many so called christians pick and choose what they follow from the Bible to suit their own hates.

          • blairmulholland

            Firstly there’s no command against negativity as far as I know. And secondly, I never said a thing about homosexuals, or homosexuality. I thought we were talking about Anglicans?

  • thehawkreturns

    Two points. 1. Marriage is defined as between man and woman so this is yet another word theft by homosexuals. I have no problem with homosexuals, civil ceremonies etc etc. Just another word lost to homopolitics. 2. By moving to allow homosexuals to take office in the Anglican Church the church allows the homohating Islamists to become more visible to the generally “islamoblind” church members who don’t recognise that pretty soon the Muslims will be lining up the cattle wagons for them. Maybe this will bring attention to the evil culture growing in the UK. Good move then. I support it!

    • Gayguy

      Good lord, your tinfoil hat is on too tight.

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