My First Te Reo – Whakakeke, Hāngū

Cris and Cru are hangu now

Cris and Cru are hāngū now

WHAKAKEKE

(verb) to refrain from speaking, be silent, sulk.

HĀNGŪ

(stative) be dumb, quiet, incommunicative, not talkative, silent, taciturn, passive.

Modern usage:

The whanau wishes Cris and Cru would be hāngū.  

The whānau wants someone to make Cris and Cru hāngū.

The Police want to know what happened to Cris and Cru but the whanau has elected to remain whakakeke.

Maori leaders want New Zealand to save their language but remain whakakeke on the appalling statistics of the abuse of their tamariki.

  • David

    Sad Cam very sad…I get the point you are making but not your best work!

    • Michael

      Quite right David. Cameron should be part of a balanced media, which means publishing not only the positive but also the other positive things Maori do.

      • williamabong

        like fill the jails and lead the welfare statistics.

      • Phill

        Two innocent babies are dead, and no one held accountable because the whanau went whakakere, in effect sanctioning the behaviour of the perpetrators. These are the facts of the case and they are undisputed.
        I wish David and Michael, you would show more outrage to the people/situation whom have sickened the majority of decent people in this country.
        Keep shining the light Cam.

        • David

          Phill I am absolutely in a agreement about the sickening nature of this crime and cover up. Maybe I’m just being overly sensitive this morning but this seems a little too close to taking the piss rather than seriously presenting information. Just my opinion!

      • David

        I appreciate the majority of Cameron’s work hence why I subscribe to his blog but I don’t see the need for this. I am not an apologist by any stretch of the imagination this case is disgusting and a national disgrace that no one is rotting in jail over the murder of these two babies. Like I said I get the point he is making just wish he had done so in a different way is all.

        • Bunswalla

          Give us an example of what you mean by “doing it in a different way”

        • Dave

          David. The entire Kahui affair was shrouded by lies, silence, shifting evidence / facts, family shielding others etc. LEts not also forget that during those poor childrens lives, any number of Whanau and neighbors could have raised serious alerts, called them out, even taken them away. They didnt, the entire proud Maori whanau let them down, also some of the social welfare system system. However at the end of the day, the buck stops very very firmly with the parents, then the extended whanau, and some close friends. I don’t believe there is one person in NZ that doesn’t wish those two children and others like them, were alive today.

          The key lesson is, what has changed to avoid this happening again, I suggest FUCK ALL The instigators of those prolonged and shocking attacks got away with it thanks to a complicit and disgusting wall of silence from their whanau.

          So, please do tell, or others – please tell us all what the Maori community, and the general NZ community has put in place to ensure nothing like this happens ever again.

          To progress, and effect change, someone needs to keep shining the light into those dark corners. Granted, its not nice to think of what happened again, but as long as they are remembered, there is a hope of change. Lets all hope and pray that light shines bright, till no kids are killed or injured, and then (and only then) do I for one think Cam should stop shining that light.

      • Bad__Cat

        WTF? I don’t come here for “balanced media”
        I come here because it has stuff that I (mostly) agree with.

    • Elitist Tory

      What are the maori words for “acquitted in 9 minutes flat”?

      • Mediaan

        And.

        What are the maori words for “had political history alongside Labour Party activists”?

        Which means the Kahui household and family got corruptly looked after and treated deferentially by police?

  • williamabong

    Ouch, thats yet another boot firmly up the arse of Maori language week, now wait for the attack of the apologists, as for these two babies and the shit that went on the entire fucking family should have gone to jail, lying cunts the lot of them.

  • Phil

    We whities are just ignorant and insenstive to the ancient mystical ways of the maori people and should make more of an effort to understand. If a young maori mother wants to go out and get bladdered while her partner throws their babies against te wall to get them to sleep – it is her right! It is her custom and we are just small minded to critisise.

    • Dave

      Yeah, and Maori invented dryers didn’t they, or perhaps it is not their fault as dryers and washing machines don’t carry a warning “Remove clothing from child before placing the clothing only in this machine”

      • IWantToBeLikeMallardOneDay

        Careful, you need to patent that idea, because now there will be a course at the Wananga in Gisborne where young Maori who can’t spell at the age of 32 can go and learn how to remove the clothes from a child and have it pointed out that it is the clothing you put in the machine and not the baby. Look after your intellectual property!

    • Custard

      It’s not that. Like koha, white people don’t understand what went on here. Justice has been served, the whanau has been through enough, especially after being judged by white motherf$@&ers.

      • Nechtan

        Justice has not been served!!!

        • Custard

          I’m being sarcastic

          • Nechtan

            My mistake

  • OT Richter

    TE WANKER – WO resorting to using pictures of dead babies to get his point across.

    • williamabong

      Perhaps it’s the only way to get the message through to blind people who still can’t see the elephant in the room.

    • Euan Ross-Taylor

      I find this an interesting debate. If you were asked “who is showing most support for these two innocent lives, WO or their whanau? How would you answer? Is your comment manufactured outrage because you think it should be wrong to show photos of now deceased children, or is their memory actually being respected by this post?

    • GregM

      If it was up to me, these pictures from the last few days would be on the front page of every newspaper in the the country every day of the week. Maybe that way people would start asking for some action instead of trying to forget or pretend it never happened.

      • williamabong

        Right on, the “leaders” in Maoridom seem more enthusiastic about the dirty laundry staying in the cupboard whilst they seek to redress all the bullshit wrongs via a wheelbarrow of the white oppressors money.

        • Nechtan

          I would like to see a real leader emerge from within Maoridom and denounce these crimes and the criminal animals who commit them, but I won’t hold my breath waiting.

          • jcpry

            That would mean selling the Beemers and cutting the salaries of the “leaders”. It’s not going to happen!

        • Dave

          Which Leaders in Maoridom ? Where are those leaders and who are they. I note from yesterday another post mentioned Willie Apiata, but who else is there? This is a huge issue to me, had there been a true leader speaking OUT on this and other issues, asking for the real killer/s to be brought to justice….

          • IWantToBeLikeMallardOneDay

            There are people who make enormous profits from the grievance industry. For example, the Gisborne wananga promotes people with no academic qualifications into positions which are mostly unnecessary and give them huge perks like V8 holdens and large salaries, the precise figures of which I do not have. I don’t know about leaders, but many people have explain when I questioned the credentials (and also basic literacy and general competence of the people I had to deal with when I was looking to become a new teacher in Gisborne) that the reason these people held positions was primarily due to their rangatira status and family connections. I was really stunned at how widespread it was. Put it this way, you generally meet one or two chinless wonders in any office, but this place was full to the brim. Even the manager of the site didn’t have a real degree and she sure as hell wasn’t capable of running it. In fact, she was the biggest chinless wonder of them all! I am sure you know this stuff. It isn’t a Maori problem, it is a parochial feudalism throwback problem from people who are deliberately mis-educated about not just history, but also literacy and logic. You have to see it if you haven’t. I shit you not! ;-)

          • Mediaan

            Nepotism.

      • OT Richter

        Yes the MSM need to step up, but posting it on a right-wing blog with minimal maori readership (correct me if I’m wrong) is hardly going to change a thing except gain a rise in site-clicks.
        It maddens the hell out of me that nobody has been held accountable for this, and the entire Kahui family should be in the clink for perverting the course of justice.

        • 4077th

          OT with respect, you cant on the one hand criticize and then perpetuate it. Just saying..

          • OT Richter

            Point taken Radar, just a tad frustrated about the blunt instrument being used here.

          • http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/ Whaleoil

            Not as blunt as the fists that smashed them to death

          • Dave

            Real tough buggers weren’t they. Please keep shining that light cam, as much of a sore point it is, every time the issue receives sunlight, is another chance for acceptance and change

        • williamabong

          I beg to differ on that one, I would suggest a lot of “senior and influential” Maori do watch this site and what is said, but choose to ignore it and the comments as all they would add would be to inflame the debate any further.
          These people are as a rule so deep in the trough they have learned to breathe through their ears, and as long as they hold centre stage the problem won’t go away.

        • James

          Enough politicians read this that it might possibly shame some into doing something. Although this assumes that politicians can feel a sense of shame …

          • OT Richter

            The Owen Glenn inquiry was stocked with supposedly high-powered and relevant people, but unfortunately even they can’t hold it together long enough to produce a result.

          • James

            You have to question if this would have been the case if a picture of murdered kids was printed on the front page of the Dom Post every morning until something was done.
            Good on WO – it isn’t nice to look at, it isn’t nice to think about, but it sure is better than having it buried away never to be spoken until the next time it happens.

          • Hazards001

            The Owen Glenn inquiry was stocked with the same hand wringing liberal elite apologist troughers that have made a career out of being on committees.
            A inquiry is nothing more than a committee with a leather bound gold leaf embossed report at the end of it.
            A committee is a loose collection of self important windbags with nothing better to do.

            What result exactly did you think we were going to see?

          • http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/ Whaleoil

            And when Glenn started to wonder what exactly he was getting for his coin they all knifed him but still want the coin.

    • island time

      They were alive in the picture. Seems like you would rather that this sort of issue be left alone. Whales approach is far less graphic than what we see on TV to counter drunk driving – some people do not appreciate how clever the message is. Yes Whale has brought a real human element to the table, but maybe that is what is required.

      Nothing like forcing people to look in the mirror….

    • Dave

      OT I checked, that picture is of two healthy babies when taken. one the family should treasure, possibly one of the few pictures of those poor children prior to their injuries.

  • Lion_ess

    I had my whinge about this yesterday – so won’t be repeating today. Must say, I admire people who don’t back down. As anticipated Cameron, you haven’t disappointed in this regard.

  • Jonathan Pull

    Cams not on some crusade. Hes just happily having a dig and chasing page views.
    Were he on a crusade we would see more of this, but no its maori language week and he can use it as a tool to create controversy and awarenss of his website, not the kids.
    All it shows is the lows he will stoop to to be the “#1 blog in the country” clearly at any cost. And he has the cheek to criticize teachers for using children. More hypocrisy.

    • OT Richter

      I suspect it is a bit of both.

    • williamabong

      Awesome another attack on the messenger and we completely ignore the message, Cam thrives on controversy, sadly controversy seems to be the only way to keep this stain on our society in the public eye, and still Maori kids get the bash.

    • Bunswalla

      So you’d applaud him if he did it more often, but because he’s chosen a time when the country is focusing on Maori language to do it, that’s somehow a bad thing?

      I disagree with your logic – if you harp on about something over and over repeatedly, all it does is become part of the background noise.

      On the other hand, if you time your attacks to coincide with a time that focus is being put on the Maori language, and you use examples of that same Maori language to make your point, I think is an excellent strategy. And one that seems to be generating a lot of discussion – which is the point.

  • Kahu

    Hi Cam, Rangi here, try to decapitate decent rebuttal by “banning me” huh? Well here’s the problem. Your 3rd party service only requires a functioning E-mail to open an account. So be prepared to edit every post and ban me as many times as there are available E-mail accounts in the world.

    I thought about how I was going to respond to being “banned”. There were no warnings, I even said I would play within the rules. Nope, still you expect to infect peoples minds without a decent opposing view & a willingness to point out your shortcomings should you elect to go down the track you have.

    I know a problem shared is a problem halved & depression is a bitch, but there really is no need to stoop so low.

    On this case, as we all know, the police constructed a deal with Macsyna for her testimony. Chris got acquitted in a little over an hour & she was later proven to be a liar but by that time it was too late. The deal was struck – If you want an outcry, start with the police & ask them why they would strike such a bullshit deal on our behalf?

    • Agent BallSack

      Well there is no double jeopardy for a person who hasnt been tried for the murder so if youre so sure she did it, why hasnt she been arrested tried and convicted?

      • Kahu

        The deal with the police was already mentioned

        • Agent BallSack

          Without going into the finer points of the case, the police had their man. It was the stonewalling by the whanau that prevented the conviction.

          • Kahu

            Bullshit! Police investigative & subpoena powers are absolute. With the deal went those powers & a prime suspect walked free. Its disgusting and in no way, the doing of Maori. Kings perhaps, Not Maori

          • Agent BallSack

            Investigative powers? Pretty damn useless in the face of a race of people who know if they remain silent and say nothing, no one can be convicted. No ones blaming you Rangi but youre just another fucking apologist really. ALL of them should be behind bars and not for manslaughter or the favourite get out of jail free ‘failing to provide the necessities of life’ but fucking MURDER

          • Kahu

            Yet we have no answer from the Police, why isn’t anyone grilling them? Why? – because its much easier to point to the “wall of silence” present in “Maori” than to quiz the outfit who plainly jumped the gun.

          • Muffin

            thats right Rangi, lets not blame the family for not putting the murderer forward… lets blame the police. If my brother/uncle/cousin did that to their kids and I knew about it I’d be telling the cops all about it right after I gave them a hiding.

          • pukakidon

            It is no different than when a pet dog savages a child, It is taken away and put down. The family are low life scum.

          • James

            I wouldn’t be telling the police … it would rightly make me a suspect when he disappeared.

          • pukakidon

            Rangi. I in no way support the blaming of Maori for this despicable murder of two defenseless babies. I am also not comfortable with the use of Maori language week to make the point, However the blame squarely sits at the hands of the father and mother for committing the murders and for allowing it to happen. Their family are scum bags for not outing them for this savage sub human behaviour.

            Shame on you for supporting either one of these low lifes.

          • IWantToBeLikeMallardOneDay

            Are you Rangi? Did you get banned? They shouldn’t have banned you.

          • Phill

            How can you say its nothing to do with Maori. two Maori kids in a Maori household were brutally murdered. The Maori occupants of the house all went whakakeke on the matter, claiming Maori culture/customs as their justification for doing so. Perverting the course of justice. When approached, not one Maori leader lifted a finger to help get to the bottom of the problem.
            The police did not commit this crime…one of the whanau did, and the continue with their criminal act by remaining silent.

            EDIT: I agree that the police are a bunch of halfwits over the way they handled the case, (I’m sure if it was this white boy in the situation I would be hauled down the station and have the book thrown at me) but the police did not murder two innocent kids.

          • pukakidon

            It is better to blame the people who did this not their race. If we blame the race for these sort of things then we are all as bad.

            Lundy smashed the head of his daughter in with an axe, does that make all white people bad.

            Bain shot his two sisters, had a life and death struggle with his brother Steven before shooting him through the hand and head. Does that make all white people bad?

            There are all sorts of people trying to defend his murdering and tell lies to cover it up and what is more dispicable is that they try to put blame this on the father even that there is absolutely no evidence that points to him and the fact that he can not defend himself is even worse. However because these thick scum bags support DB I dont blame all white people for being thick.

            We all realise that John Campbell is thick as pig shit, but we cant classify has whole race as being the same.

            Blame the people responsible not the race.

          • Muffin

            I get your point puka, however in those cases there is no whanau keeping tight lipped about who committed the crime.

          • pukakidon

            I agree that those that knew and shut up in the family are bad people.

          • Dave

            There are a few philosophical differences in the Lundy debate. 99.9999% of people did not support Lundy and those around him cooperated. The police did not meet a wall of silence.

            Contrast that to the Kahui case, and see what their Whanau did. Therein lies the issue. As someone else posted today, if it was my relation, i would deal to them then tell the police. Excellent notion to!

            The Family of the Kahui family all knew what was going on, yet choose to turn a blind eye to it. Lundy on the other hand, did not show signs of what was about ot happen, AND, he is now serving time for the crime.

          • pukakidon

            You are right, the family are bad…..

          • Phill

            I totally agree with your comments. The blame lies with the scum who committed this abhorrent crime, and not the race.

            However, as a general comment on our multicultural society and the rules of engagement that we all must live by…I think the point you maybe miss is that…Lundy was bought to justice and a punishment imposed. Same with David Bain. (I personally think he’s guilty too) They did time and suffered consequences for their actions.

            Where Maoridom seem to fall down is the deafening silence and playing of the race card about this issue (and similar issues) Any time the word Maori is used in a sentence with less than positive overtones, the speaker is branded as racist. This is just ridiculous.

            Respect (for the culture) has to be earned and if Hone Hariwerea wanted to send some of his nephews “to get to the bottom of it”,…..and the perpetrator(s) found and bought to justice….it would advance Maori culture to no end and negate most of the static of the conversation. Please use the power of the culture (and it is powerful) for good, and not to hide evil.

            +1 for the John Campbell comment too!

          • pukakidon

            Yes I totally agree in regards to justice being done for the Lundy and Bain case and in the case of these wee babies was not done.

            However I used to think that bad maori people were a product of their race as well, however I later realised that was an ignorant view to take. I have stayed at Marae many times and have met many many Maori people who are absolutely very good and generous people. I have also met some bad people who are maori just as I have met some real scum bags of my race, in actual fact the worst pricks I have ever met are middle class or children of those with money who are absolute lying, dishonest little shits.

            The responsibility belongs squarely at the feet of the individual and maybe in this case the way they were brought up.

    • 4077th

      Like most other shit stirrer Maori you too believe it is all the fault of the cops? The cops Rangi can only deal with the evidence and that was all they had. Probably the same reasons why a certain mr Bain is on the loose.

      • Kahu

        Stay focussed. Why did the police make the deal? That is the question which needs an answer

        • Agent BallSack

          Because everyone else zipped their lips. Hey its only 2 fucking kids dead. Breed some more!

          • Kahu

            Perhaps a touch indelicate, but hey, you are on WO. It is interesting to think that Maori may breed alot compared to their Pakeha counterparts

          • Agent BallSack

            Lets agree the worst thing about this case is that 2 innocent children are dead and the killer remains unpunished. That’s what the post is essentially about. I dont think its race based, rather an abhorrent crime that someone should be in prison for. Those kids are loved more in death than they ever were in life.

          • OT Richter

            You seriously don’t think this post is race based…? Gave you more credit than that.

          • Agent BallSack

            The post is. I would rather argue on the merits of the case. Like any race Maori have good and bad. Minnie Dean was European so its not like we don’t have our own skeletons. However she received the ultimate punishment. My main concern was how readily a family of adults protected the perpetrator. For that they should hang their heads in shame for the rest of their lives.

          • Nechtan

            All of them should have locked up or at least charged with accessories after the fact, as the continued wall of silence was nothing short of aiding and abetting the guilty.

          • Agent BallSack

            If this was the States everyone would be charged with murder, regardless of culpability. We have a long way to go.

          • Sponge

            No you used too many words. It should be “For that they should hang.”

          • Dave

            Some facts.

            1) Germans make great sausages and high performance cars

            2) French make fantastic Croissants (suggest LeTropezzienne in browns bay)

            3) Maori were once warriors, have terrible stats on harming and maiming their kids.

            A racist statement All (insert Race) stink.

            No one has said all Maori do this or that. Facts are facts.

          • OT Richter

            Sorry, I linked the Maori phrases to Maori, and the reference to Maori leaders as being a reference to Maori leaders. Must stop being so literal.

          • Dave

            Rangi – its a fact, They DO breed more than their pakeha counterparts, and they start breeding younger, and to more partners.

        • Nechtan

          The whole affair was a disgrace, instead of the softy softy, hands off, approach (in part encouraged/enabled by Pita Sharples) everybody in that house should have been thrown in the slammer until the guilty party/parties confessed. The hell with “their rights” those two babies had rights including bringing their killer to justice. (edited for missing a word so the sentence makes sense)

        • Muffin

          nope why did the kids die…….. thats the question. and who did it thats another, and why didnt they people that know who did it tell the police… thats another great quesiton. I’ve siad it before Rangi but you are a racist POS.

        • Phill

          Stay focused. Who murdered the kids? That is the question which needs an answer.

    • OT Richter

      Oh FFS, you gotted banned? With unsol on time out, the freedom of speech on the site is diminishing at a rapid rate.

      If we all agreed on a topic it would be pretty boring, or is that the circle jerk that Cam and the mods want?

      If Cam is serious about getting his message across to Maori, then I suggest he stops banning them.

      Long live Dictator Slater!

      • http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/ Whaleoil

        You’ll be next…people don’t take hints, they froth and rant and distract from proper debate they disappear.

        My blog, my rules

        • guest

          Cameron Slater don’t you dare infer that I detract from proper debate. I am one of the view actually interested in it and YOU know it! Yes it is your blog & you can be as biased as you like, but as I said to you the other day (nice wiping of my comments btw but still leaving the ones that give validation to trolls like your alter ego TB. My list of additional questions in NO WAY deserved such a patronizing & mean response!) you have to make a choice about how you wish to continue – to be the man of God you claim to be or to surround yourself with a swarm of parasitic wasps that egg you on to lower the tone of such important debates as these. I meant what I said – I am sincere in my faith in your ability to do great things with this, but opposing people like me & now OTR in favour of guttersnipes will continue to hold you back & mean this blog just continues to grow as the number one hang out joint for bullies.
          The message of this post is being undermined by its delivery & merely served to whip up a frenzy of hate rather than an intelligent discussion about the issue & seeking to find real solutions. But like you say, your blog so I will say adios…for the second time. I am happy to leave so don’t bother reinstating my access.

          • Dave

            Unsol ??? ITs interesting you rant about Cam and others, yet you chose to do so anonymously. Be interesting for you to use your normal handle rather than post behind “Guest”

          • OT Richter

            unsol is on time out (i.e temporarily banned) so is posting as a guest instead. Nothing anom about it as she made it clear (to most) who she is.
            OTR = me.

          • Dave

            Thanks OTR, but it is up to the “guest” above to declare who they are, admiration for Rangi being honest stating he was posting as Kahu etc, I might not agree with most of his posts, but credit where it is due.

          • Agent BallSack

            I dont think disagreement is necessarily a bad thing Unsol. And because you disagree with a few on here it doesnt make us all bad – we have clashed on topics but never had to resort to generalising or personal abuse. Please refrain from lumping us all in as bullies and enablers.

            Edit: Who’s TB?

          • Bunswalla

            Perhaps TP?

          • guest

            Disagreement is fantastic – it provides an opportunity to discuss & opens the door for change.

            But on here it is merely an opportunity to attack others.

            You a right though – of course I don’t mean to include everyone when I refer to his circle of cackling hyenas. I have experienced many positives on here, including interacting with some really smart & witty people. You were one of the first.

            But end of the day there is a way to address issues like child abuse, as well as our other massive social issues, but this forum is currently not one of them.

            TB is a new commentator called Thieving Bastards who came straight on to attack me. If you see his comments you will recognize his syntax.

            All the best ABS!

          • GregM

            I usually enjoyed your comments too. Was a bit disappointed to be labelled a “guttersnipe” or “parasitic wasp”. A few do let down the whole side as can only be expected.

          • pukakidon

            If you are that committed unsol then you should not run away like a spineless whimp. I dont agree with all you say, but I do on some issues, I am interested to hear your point of view. This is not the standard, serve you ban and then come back!!.

          • Lion_ess

            Agree with Puka below – you make some very good points, often. Don’t run away like a spineless wimp, part of what I like about this blog is that Cameron doesn’t back down and after all, it’s his blog. Just my own observation is that you seemed to come out swinging after the Christmas break, more intent on attacking, rather than making your own point. Cheer up, wear your temporary holiday as a badge of honour.

      • williamabong

        Piss off Noddy, if you want censorship fuck off back to the reach round that is the Standard

        • OT Richter

          Put down the bong and read it again.

  • nudgy

    Go Cam you are a ripper! Keep reminding the killers that they are and will always remain guilty in the eyes of the Court of Public Justice.

    • Kahu

      I can see the pitchforks & bonfires already…talk about regression

      • Dave

        Rangi mate, I have enjoyed debating with you, but I didn’t think you got the points. Your talk about regression, lets think differently, lets concentrate on INTEGRATION, and working together.

        No pitchforks, no bonfires necessary, just all abiding by the same societal values and norms that the vast majority in society accept, and those that are enacted by the lawmakers in our society.

        Do we have a deal Rangi, do we agree ??

      • Magoo

        Just another maori making excuses for the entrenched culture of child abuse amongst maoridom. Pointing the finger at the cops instead of the family who endorsed double child murder by keeping silent – you need to take a look at yourself in the mirror. Your excuses, Rangi, makes you no no better than them – covering up for infanticide. Do you do it too Rangi, beat up little kids?

  • steve and monique

    Maori language week needs to be a time for all of us to learn some new words,and the applicable usage of said words.It is also a good time to remind everyone that this same culture has a dark side,that hides crimes,and is over represented in abuse/murder of their children,as well as numerous other offences.Oh I forgot it is not their fault. Once again cheers Cam. Shining a light on this disgusting record is fine by me..

    • williamabong

      So we are to assume next week is to be Chinese language week, seeing as we now have a growing Asian community, whick leads to the question why in fact have a Maori language week at all??

      • steve and monique

        Agree should be binned. We dont need to have a week for any language. If you wish to learn Maori, Chinese, Japanese,or English for that matter feel free to do so. A week to name and shame these assholes who commit crime/abuse would be far more appropriate.

        • Dave

          Maori Language week, well Labour ruined that, more effort and media space taken up by their leader facing the chop, and their ManBan than any Maori Language articles.

          Cameron – perhaps Steve an Monique have a point, perhaps there could be one day a month (weekends?) where you could have a guest post a few words and a video or similar in a different language so we can understand a few words of different languages, and a celebration of that culture.

          Perhaps an asian language is a great start

          • steve and monique

            Hey Dave. Am more then happy to learn a language,but not sure here is the right forum. I (Steve) enjoy coming on here,and having my weekly rant. There are other vehicles to find out about culture/language. Thank you for the comment. Sometimes like to think I make some sense.

        • williamabong

          Well said S & M, the other day I asked Rangi an number of questions like why did we have MLW at all, why there was a settlement process and did anybody owe anything to anyone, and weather someone gaining an advantage over others was racism, still waiting for an answer, perhaps typical of the “born again ” Maori that wee seem to be stuck with.

          • steve and monique

            Blinded to the truth,or to ignorant to see it. Everyone in this country has the same chances,as the next person. You can either embrace them,or not.Seems certain people would rather hide behind culture/ history,and treaty to blame,and point fingers at the shortcomings of their race. Excuses are for the lame minded. If you shit your pants,dont expect someone else to wipe your arse( unless you are under 4)

      • Dave

        Customary rights – we want it.

      • Bunswalla

        There’s no such language as Chinese. Maori is one of the three official languages of New Zealand.

        • Travis Poulson

          And only one of them is needed.

        • James

          And do we have a taxpayer funded week for the other two?

        • Kiwi Dave

          I’m not sure what you mean by “no such language as Chinese.” There are several Chinese languages: my wife uses one of them (spoken by about 65 million people as a mother tongue) daily and another (spoken by at least 700m people as a mother tongue) several times a week. I also use one of these languages from time to time – more often as I become more competent in it.

          Yes, Maori is an official language. So what?

          AUT lecturer Hohepa Maclean says, “To the surprise of the country, despite the report, you can still see that the language is in trouble.” Only someone totally deluded by his own language preferences and ignorant of the reasons people learn non-mother tongues would be surprised that most New Zealanders are indifferent to Maori language.

  • Mediaan

    From government sources, too, we need less whakakeke, on that sad case.

    Like, how many thousands in cash benefits from the taxpayer were going every week into that household, to fund the perpetual adult drugging and partying?

    Who were the useless social workers who had contact with the family?

    What subsequent careers and promotions have those social workers had?

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