Some people deserve everything they get

Some people are born stupid, others…well..they work very hard at it.

A Chinese New Zealander who entered China illegally to see his elderly parents claims he was detained, chained and tortured for five days before being deported to Auckland.

Nick Wang, 52, a former Wellington- based Chinese newspaper editor, believes he has been black-listed by Beijing and said his application for a visa to visit his homeland had been declined 18 times in the last 10 years.

Desperate to see his sick 88-year-old father and 85-year-old mother one last time, he changed his name by deed poll to Whakakingi Danzangiin Gonpo – but still failed to get a visa under his new passport identity.  

“I decided that the only way I could my parents again is to enter China illegally, through Mongolia,” said Mr Wang.

“It’s a big risk and I got caught, but that does not give them the right to treat me like an animal.”

He managed to get to his parents’ home in Hohhot, but was tracked down and arrested after three days.

Mr Wang alleged that for five days after being arrested, he was handcuffed, chained and interrogated at the Hohhot Detention Centre in Inner Mongolia.

Mr Wang said authorities would not let him rest or have a toilet break.

“I was not given a chance to call my family or lawyer, and they wouldn’t let me sleep,” he said.

Trying to sneak in illegally to a authoritarian country when you have had countless run is with their government before is seriously stupid. Bad enough you can;t travel on your own name, but to travel under a silly assumed name is just means any sympathy for you evaporates.

Comment was being sought from Chinese officials on his claims.

Oh I can imagine what they are going to say. “Uhm he in NZ according to our records never come to China, where his passport stamp? He never come here”.

What a whinger, he crept into their country illegally and now cries like a baby he got tortured? he should have taken his torture like a man.

  • tarkwin

    We should send Liam Reid there on a one way fact finding mission.

  • 4077th
  • 4077th

    Bet if he changed his name to Bill Liu or William Yan he would get a visa in a flash..Dover and Shane would happily help for the right price.

  • Anonymouse Coward

    Being a despotic regime is hard work.

    Creating merry hell if a brass band wants to march down a street in a country at the bottom of the world because it somehow threatens your legitimacy is one of the burdens shouldered.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/local-news/central-leader/693168/Falun-Gong-group-banned-from-parade

  • Dr Wang

    Nick Wang – no relation.

    • motorizer

      Phew. WaS worried

    • IWantToBeLikeMallardOneDay

      It is easy to say so… I am sure he would… :-)

  • Rex Widerstrom

    The guy got blacklisted because he reported on the visit of a dissident to NZ. So what you’re saying is, you’re happy with the Chinese – communist – government trying to control a piece of the NZ media through standover tactics, sending the message that if you annoy them you won’t get to see your elderly parents before they pass away.

    Would you have countenanced a bunch of commies applying that sort of blackmail to you as editor of Truth, assuming they had the power to do so?

    It’d be different if he was an actual criminal – if he’d murdered or raped someone in China. But in this instance the appropriate response to the Chinese is an upraised middle digit, not this sort of kowtowing.

    • LabTested

      Air China web site. Hohhot – Hong Kong return flight is $535.

      He could have just flown his parents there.

      • Rex Widerstrom

        You may have a point, but we don’t know how bad his parents’ health is. His 88 year old father is described as “sick”. Mine is 91 and hasn’t been able to fly for about the past eight years.

        And that’s assuming the Chinese would let them out of the country. There’s a massive apparatus there focused on suppressing dissent, so you can bet it’d red flag (no pun intended) the family of a dissident leaving as quickly as it would his arriving.

        • IWantToBeLikeMallardOneDay

          Any mainland Chinese resident can apply for a Hong Kong permit which allows them into the city for seven days. It takes about three weeks to have such a permit processed and they’re very rarely declined.

        • hamsap

          “It’s a big risk and I got caught, but that does not give them the right to treat me like an animal.”

          This tosser knows the risk, took it, and got what he deserved. Not sure if you can use your logic in an Asian country on what is and is not tolerable.

          What the Chinese government does not want is a shit stirrer, they can say anything they want outside China (but the government do not want them INSIDE). I don’t think the Chinese would make a great deal of dissident leaving – free to go, but may not be welcomed back…

          I would say that his best bet is to use HK as a rendezvous point…

      • IWantToBeLikeMallardOneDay

        Exactly. Dopey bugger. Must have been an editor of a similar calibre to what we have overseeing the quality of the news in New Zealand.

    • mike

      China is an sovereign nation with it’s own laws. While we may not condone them they are a sovereign nation and as such are entitled to enact what ever policies they wish… in their eyes this noddy is a dissident (or criminal or both) who they do not want in their country, it’s their call if they let him in. If noddy then chooses to break their law, and enter their country illegally, then he is going to suffer their wrath.

      • Rex Widerstrom

        I take your point. But that entitlement does not make those policies right, nor oblige us to support them.

        • mike

          Doesn’t have to be right, nor do we have to support them.

          Some of our policies probably don’t make them happy (allowing Russell Norman to get so close to their Premier being one)

  • Polish Pride

    “he crept into their country illegally and now cries like a baby he got tortured? he should have taken his torture like a man.”
    You can’t be serious. You actually support the torture of individuals….?

    • hamsap

      Do the crime, do the time…. Even knowing that torture is waiting if caught, he still took the risk and got burned…. Imagine if they have a soft lefty attitude towards illegal entry, they would be full of illegal immigrants (there’s a reason why Afghanis and Sri Lankan do not attempt to cross into China, even though they are geographically closer than Australia)

      • Rex Widerstrom

        Crime?! His “crime” was reporting on someone who criticised a despotic government. Ever criticise Helengrad? Happy if they started throwing people into jail for it?

        If I had to run a similar risk to visit my elderly parents in NZ, I’d have done it. Sure he assessed the risk and decided to take it. But that oughtn’t to rule out sympathy for his plight.

        • hamsap

          Is it not a crime to enter a country illegally? *facepalm*

          Let’s see how he pissed the Beijing government:

          “In 2002, his relationship with the Chinese Embassy in Wellington soured after he covered the visit of Wei Jingsheng, a Chinese democracy campaigner who was jailed in China for 18 years.”
          Seems like he supports the anti-government movement, in some countries this could be considered as treason…

          “In 2004, he again angered the embassy for running a full- page spread with pictures of tanks to mark the 15th anniversary of the Tiananmen Square massacre.”

          This by itself could be considered as acting against the government. As much as democracy goes, this might be tolerable, but China never claimed to be democratic in the first place! And its their right to refuse anyone who they believe may cause problem into their country

          • Polish Pride

            *facepalm* You missed the point. Do the crime, do the time sure. But torture – never acceptable under any circumstances ever. There is no argument or justification for it either.

    • James

      The guy is a leftist. He probably defines torture as not being able to check the Huffington Post website.

  • cows4me

    Typical Chinese, arse about face, should have deported him to Auckland first, that would be real torture.

  • Johnny T

    I have no time for China or mainland Chinese. It’s a disgraceful regime, and the mainland Chinese in NZ are for the most part brainwashed. I’ve travelled there and will never visit again. Taiwan on the other hand is a fantastic place, just love it, China without the hassle, a democratic and vibrant country.
    The guy in question here is an idiot for trying to sneak in the way he did however. The Chinese government though was petulant in not giving him a visa. Fuckers can’t handle any sort of criticism at all.

    • Travis Poulson

      I don’t see the point in putting so much effort into being critical of a communist country, I mean come on, this shit is a given.

      • IWantToBeLikeMallardOneDay

        They know it too, that’s why they don’t practice what they preach. You should see the idiots in their porsches which are paid for from the labour of people who make like $40 a week.

        • Travis Poulson

          I forgot how many billionaires Larry Williams said there was in Shanghai .

          • IWantToBeLikeMallardOneDay

            They sure as hell are no John Galts let me assure you. It is just like the public service under a Labour government.

    • Get a Grip

      You are of course entitled to your opinion.
      I have travelled to China annually for last 5 years. Happy to go back any time. Have travelled to USA numerous times over the last 30 years -not happy to go back. In my view the USA regime is far worse than the Chinese. Respect each nations policies and culture and generally you will have a happy outcome.

      • IWantToBeLikeMallardOneDay

        Really? Why do you feel this way?

    • IWantToBeLikeMallardOneDay

      I live there. It is fine for me as long as they leave me alone and they have so far. As for the criticism part, you’re right, they sure as hell can’t take it, but the reality is that the amount of people on the net is something like 560 million and the younger generation as well as some of the older are very discontented with the status quo.
      As for brainwashing. Yeah, it is awful. It is just like 1984: the Goldstein effect. Hatred is projected towards the Japanese and kids as young as six will rant and rave about Nanking. It is very disconcerting, but there is hope.

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