Firstline at 0745 tomorrow

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I will be on Firstline tomorrow morning with Mike Williams to talk about the Labour leadership results.

The result to my mind isn’t unexpected but the critical numbers for me are that David Cunliffe still cannot muster any more support than just 11 members of his caucus.

I’ve analysed hours and hours of video in the past three weeks and have come to the conclusion that David¬†Cunliffe¬†is a narcissist and a sociopath. He is willing to lie and lie again to get what he wants.

He has a fake insincerity that he has so far only shown us a glimpse of, like the infamous Avondale market speech. His fake bro accent and working class smack talk is unbecoming.

He did that also in Warkworth during the selection battle and it comes off…well…gay.

Have a look at the full video too at Radio Live…and the condescending way he speaks, especially when he adds in epithets like “brother”…like when he was asked how he was going to make housing more affordable his answer was “Capital gains tax – brother”. Of course he never explained how increasing costs of housing by adding on a tax was going to make housing more affordable but that is but one of the lies he will foist upon the electorate.¬†

Will he last? I’ll go on record as saying I don’t think so.

He has made too many promises that are from the hard left in order to win over the loons in the membership and lock in the majority of union support. Those promises are going to come up again and again and as he resiles from them he will find his membership becoming increasingly vocal about his flip flops. He needs to justify how he is going to pay for them…so far his answer has been “tax increases…you bet”.

David Cunliffe is a flake and a fake, and he will be exposed now like never before. His double speaking and using different things to say to different audiences will now be highlighted.

The blogosphere¬†pundits from the left, the rabid organisers of left-wing hate speech blogs and other are shortly going to find out that David¬†Cunliffe¬†isn’t the much sought after messiah…he isn’t even a very naughty boy. All I have to do is find all their statements waxing lyrical about how he will save them and throw them back their their faces when he fails. they believe he will slay John Key with his performances in parliament, they are wrong.

The funny thing now will be watching the parade of people who professed undying love for David Shearer and his leadership through to the election now say the exact same things about David Cunliffe.

Politics is a fickle beast and only the consistent and persistent make it.

  • maninblack

    haha great video whale. Awesome work putting that together!!

  • GazzW

    Only eleven supporters in the caucus will be very telling…….plus of course those fairweather MPs who are prepared to bend over and take it from Cunliffe for the sake of personal gain just for as long as it takes to mount another challenge. First Goff, then Shearer and now Cunliffe all in the space of four & a bit years and the rifts and the factions are still there. Cunliffe is not the person to unite them either. Next please……..

    • Mr Sackunkrak

      Two down, one to go.

  • Anonthemouser

    Right… so taking campaign money from big business = bad
    taking money from unions (i.e. the working person) = good

  • Orange

    I’m running the show, everyone laughs, look on his face, priceless

  • Sir Cullen’s Sidekick

    Let us get the facts right here. Curryleaf has won a massive mandate as the PM of this country. He has promised to raise taxes and people have agreed. Evidence – Roy Morgan poll. Robertson and Jones have pledged support for Curryleaf. Game over.

  • Bryan

    well shall we start the bets now to see how long he lasts he is about to find out all those nasty things he has done to others will come home to roost I bet John Keys team has been recording everything these guys have said over the last month and they must have some really good fodder to throw back at him

    • Meg

      Given Key is a very worried man, you can be assured his smear team will kick into overdrive now.

      Sadly for Key, but luckily for NZ, it will be too late to save National.

      • markymark

        Cunliffe has about as much sincerity as Mitt Romney – fuck all. And we all know how that ended…

        • Meg

          Cunliffe is no Romney. And Key is a very very worried man.

  • James Growley

    Obviously, the fool cannot make good on his promises to the Unions without bleeding us all dry, so when he is forced to do a u-turn, do you think they will withhold funding to the party as they have done in the UK.

    • Teletubby

      Since when have any of the lefties been worried about bleeding the country dry??

  • Patrick

    He thinks talking like a bro makes him relevant in the mean streets of South Auckland – but in reality they are only interested in what he will give them for nothing. For the productive of NZ this is potentially a disaster as this commie is one step away from being NZ’s PM. When & if that happens be prepared for more taxes on the productive & more pork barrel politics as Cunliffe buys his support.

  • Blue Tim

    Typical left wing hypocrite who panders to the had out brigade and doesn’t care how it is to be paid for

    • Meg

      Change the word left to right and you have a very accurate description of Key.

  • JeffW2

    Careful of that leftwinger Smalley. She hates John Key with a passion, and therefore will love silent T or whoever leads Liabour, no matter how temporary the position.

    • OneTrack

      She prefers the Green Party – probably a member.

  • smartarse

    He got 10 votes Cam. Plus himself. Less than a third. The Clarkistas and the old scrotes are going to FRAG the fuck out of him

    • GazzW

      …aided and abetted by some white-anting from the Wolf’s Lair in New York.

      • Meg

        You lot really are scared of her aren’t you.

        • GazzW

          Bahahahaha!

          • Meg

            Calm down it is ok. No need to cry.

    • http://keepingstock.blogspot.com/ Keeping Stock

      And once second preferences are taken into account, he was the LEAST PREFERRED candidate18 out of 34 MP’s. that bodes well; for John Key.

      • Meg

        Not at all. Clark was amazingly unpopular and she went on to be PM for 9 years. Key will be nervous about this.

        Why do you think he has been attacking all 3 of the Labour hopefuls when he hardly said a word during the last Labour leader changeover? He knows he is in a bad spot now.

        • markymark

          Because they all came out with absurd uncosted policies.

          Cunliffe went out of his way to appeal to economically illiterate labour party members like yourself, with promises of raising wages via decree and other unjustifiable spending (a Pacifica TV chanel??? REALLY??).

          Key took a free hit. Who could blame him, when faced with such bare faced pandering.

          • Meg

            Key did everything he could to attack all 3. Every time he opened his mouth he was attacking one one of the Labour contenders. Or were you not watching your dear leader behaving like a fool?

          • Bafacu

            Do you wake up in the morning and decide which persona you will be for that day, or is there a pattern to the changes I have yet to detect?

        • Bunswalla

          Because they’re complete cocks

          • Meg

            No, because Key is shit scared that he is about to get smacked around.

            Bye bye Key.

        • http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/ Whaleoil

          You said the same shit about David Shearer…how did that turn out?

  • Peej

    If Cunliffe is a narcissist and a sociopath his job prospects for leadership roles in NZ are good. His ability to contribute to public discussion via blog sites however rises exponentially.

  • LabTested

    On TV 3 news they pointed out that he had taken down the painting of himself from his office wall. Cunliffe replied that he had never seen the painting before he announced his candidacy otherwise he would have taken it down earlier!!

    1. Can this guy open his mouth without lying
    2. Did anyone manage ti get a screen shot of the painting, cos Cunliffe clearly don’t like the earlier reaction to him having it there

  • Day Day

    Cunliffe wants to stop the Kapiti expressway. If he takes that into an election Otaki will become a very safe National seat.

    • Honcho

      Already is a safe national seat, despite Nathan Guy being better in the milking shed then running the primary industries portfolio, he is well loved in the province, that labour hasn’t run anyone of significance since Darren Hughes fall from grace.

  • Whafe

    The factions are a coming to get you Silent T…

  • I See Silly People

    If it’s all the same with you I’ll be watching the Americas Cup :)

  • Ken Mathis

    “Of course he never explained how increasing costs of housing by adding on a tax was going to make housing more affordable but that is but one of the lies he will foist upon the electorate.”

    you know what a capital gain is right? and what a tax on it would mean?

    which means that this is just wrong, typical whaleoil posturing about policy A while ignoring that your own favourites endorse policy B which is far more sinister

    • OneTrack

      “you know what a capital gain is right? and what a tax on it would mean?”

      Umm, does it mean when someone is selling their house, that they will put the price up in order to cover the loss they would otherwise make due to the cgt?

      Or maybe you could tell us what a cgt under Cunliffe would actually look like. Because all I have seen is a rough description, something along the lines of “we gunna get those rich pricks”.

      • Ken Mathis

        it sounds to me like a strong incentive not to turn house-trading in to horse-trading, even if it does shatter your precious ‘equity’ (the nice word that you folks want to call ‘debt’) in the near-term

        but as NZ seems hell-bent on building its economy on the phantoms and ghosts of debt that moves the titles of houses between owners, rather than actually investing in productive activity, it is no surprise you lot are buying this line and the hook as well

        it will bite you on the arse sooner than later, as the US has found out, but that will only harm the up-and-comers rather than the landed gentry that have spun out this yarn, so who’s the worse for it aye?

        • LabTested

          Sounds like you are describing the housing market under Clark/Cullen

          • Ken Mathis

            or the housing market right now, maybe?

        • GregM

          I am debt free. I have owned the same house for 18 years. Why the fuck should I give one cent of MY capital gain to anyone?
          Fuck off.

          • GazzW

            Because Greg you are landed gentry and a rich prick to boot.

          • GregM

            Thats what shits me Gazz, my personal income last year was less than $20k. If I vote for Cunners, does that mean I get a ” living wage ” too?. According to these losers I’m a rich prick, because I choose to go without luxuries to build up some assets. They really can fuck off.

          • Meg

            You would never vote Labour.

          • GregM

            I did from 1984 to 2005. Seriously.

          • Meg

            I am genuinely shocked. And you turned away from the light, to the party that cares more about screwing the poor and giving handouts to the rich??? To the anti education party?

            Wow.

          • GregM

            When the Labour party split from the working man and turned into the collection of minority group splinter groups ( if that makes sense) That’s when I went my own way. Didn’t vote for National until 2011.
            I share some of your concerns about education too. But until the teachers take control back from the patch protecting unionists, National, quite correctly,aren’t going to listen.
            It’s up to you guys to do that, and I hope you do.

          • Meg

            I am proud that Labour is a tent of many, as opposed to a tent for the interests of the very very few.

            There are more in NZ than just the working man, and it is time those working men grasped that fact. Labour can at times stretch itself thin trying to be all things to everyone, however I welcome that over Nationals self serving pander to the rich screw the poor and middle class, and ruin the education system approach.

            Bring on 2014.

          • GregM

            Nope, I don’t agree mate. Labour is not a tent of many, it is many tents in a circle, all firing arrows inwards.

            “There are more in NZ than just the working man” yes agree, but because I’m not a vegetarian lesbian non smoking child smacking ethnic minority with learning disabilities and / or special needs and lactose intolerant with ADHD and drug and alcohol issues, waiting for legal aid to be approved so I can take whitey to court for pinching my whanau’s land and sue Len Brown to pay back my rates backdated to 1840. Until Labour returns to being ” Labour “, I will support National.

            P.S. ” Labour ” is another name for work, they should think about that.

          • Meg

            So Labour should do as National has done. Forsake all and protect the rights of one small group of NZ.

            Like I said above, bring on 2014 and the end of John Key’s Government.

          • James Howlett

            Hey man – some of my best friends are lactose intolerant.

          • markymark

            Have u looked at any of the budgets of the last 5 years?

            Each National budget under has INCREASED health, welfare, and education spending higher than any year under the previous Labour government. The only thing that has slowed has been the rate of increase, all of which have still been above the rate of inflation (i.e. spending increases in real terms)

            But hey, wouldn’t want facts or reality to get in the way of your tribal devotion to meaningless platitudes.

          • Meg

            Have you looked at where the money goes?

            It is not to the places that should get it. ECE for example, small centres have been gutted of their funding, it has been reduced each time, yet large multinational set ups have recieved increase after increase. National wants to pack as many little kids into a nice small space and give money to the large companies, while screwing over the small business owners.

            But hey, you stick to your insane delusions and ignore the truth and facts.

          • Rodger T

            The trouble is Meg, the “light” you speak of is a 5 watt bulb.

          • Meg

            Yes that is about Key’s ability limit.

          • Deckboy

            Likewise

          • Ken Mathis

            clearly you worked very hard and added much to the economy to earn that capital gain, rather than helping drive up housing prices and create more on-paper money that doesn’t match up to reality.

            congratulations on the short-sighted selfishness even the Yanks don’t match (since they have a capital gains tax)

          • GregM

            Okay Ken, lets hear your situation.
            Are you a home owner, if not why not.
            If you purchase a house today, will you sell it in 10 years time for what you paid for it?
            When I wasn’t at sea, serving my country, I lived in a caravan for nine years, with a child, to help pay for my house.

            Short sighted my arse, my long sighted preparations have helped to ensure I won’t ever be a burden to the taxpayer.

            Your turn.

          • Ken Mathis

            it might be more helpful to think of short-sightedness as more to do with the future that short-sighted people like yourself are burning up as fast as you can throw it on the fire, rather than telling me how your own self-interests are being helped out by screwing everyone else

            but thinking ahead isn’t really a strong point here, I am starting to gather

            in any case, who cares about making money on a house, except those who can’t think of any other way to make money? an economy built on shuffling around housing titles while prtending you are richer is an economy of fiction

            vote John Key, vote unicorns basically

          • GregM

            Answer the questions.

          • Ken Mathis

            burning up the future for your own selfishness is really the more pressing matter here honestly

          • GregM

            How is working hard and going without to provide for my families future selfish? When I make a few bucks when I eventually sell the house, that will fund retirement, so I won’t be collecting a taxpayer funded benefit.
            Or would you rather my entire family lived in a state house and collected super until we die off?
            You still haven’t answered the questions above.

          • Meg

            And you will not pay any cap gains on selling the family home.

          • markymark

            Are u aware exempting a CGT on the family home completely destroys its efficacy? Or the inherant complexity of introducing such a tax? But again, don’t bother using your brain to reach an independent judgement. Just lap up the mindless drivel u here because it comes from the ‘red team’.

            Perhaps you should educate yourself and have a read of the McLeod Tax Review 2001 or recent Victoria University of Wellington Tax Working Group’s reports. Both are available on Treasury’s website.

          • markymark

            Are u aware exempting a CGT on the family home completely destroys its efficacy? Or the inherant complexity of introducing such a tax? But again, don’t bother using your brain to reach an independent judgement. Just lap up the mindless drivel u here because it comes from the ‘red team’.

            Perhaps you should educate yourself and have a read of the McLeod Tax Review 2001 or recent Victoria University of Wellington Tax Working Group’s reports. Both are available on Treasury’s website.

          • Rodger T

            Ensuring your own financial security ,making sure your kids have a roof over their heads ,are fed and clothed!
            Don`t be so selfish Greg ,get down to Winz immediately to get ur dose of entitleitis ,we doan want your type of freethinker around here. Splitter!

            : Jebus fucking wept, what passes for thinking on the left leaves one despairing for our kids future if these fuckwads ever get their hands on the reins of the treasury benches. Cunts.

          • Ken Mathis

            I’d rather NZ have an economy where people could ‘work hard’ (despite the vagueness neoliberal apologists leave in that neat little term) and actually have things without watching a privileged few cripple the productive economy because they’re addicted to housing rents

            and then watching the abused middle and poor classes say it’s all ok because “hard work”, thank u sir may we have another?

          • markymark

            This bullshit faux compassion u offer isn’t a substitute for an argument.

            Its easy to be compassionate…when its not your money. Typical economic illiterate member of Labour.

          • Ken Mathis

            compassion, oh my. I’m talking pure economics, friend. like the dodgy economics of building your economy on fake money that you lot use to shift house titles back and forth while pretending you’re ‘growing the economy’

            compassion is great but I’m playing the game from u blokes’ side of the field

          • blokeintakapuna

            When using solvents in enclosed spaces, always ensure adequate ventilation!

          • Meg

            You won’t have to. Unless you are buying and selling houses for profit.

            Or are you swallowing the right wing scaremongering?

  • James Smales

    What a sad little man you are! Key is fake and insincere, but you ain’t going to say anything about that mo-fo because he’s your messiah. Enjoy it while it lasts, because your God-bitch is getting his ass kicked next election. BTW: Who you calling sociapath? It is well documented about how much of a nut-case you are, certifiable from what I have heard!

    • Bunswalla

      Oh wow, the Kenny and Jimmy show! A hint, “gentlemen” about how to conduct yourselves on this blog, in the unlikely event that you wish to be taken seriously:

      Offer something useful to the debate, for example an original thought, expressed without ad hominem attacks. otherwise you just come off as, well, whiney and pathetic – and I’m sure that’s not the effect you hoped for.

      • LabTested

        I can’t quite work out why those 2 are so angry. Today They should be celebrating. I seems there are some very unhappy people in camp labour who need to last out in any direction

        • Bunswalla

          You nailed it LT – not quite the happily ever after narrative, is it? Let’s hope they don’t have cats to kick, or worse.

        • GazzW

          It’s got me beat too LT. I would have thought that there would be mass celebrations and rallies in support of the new Messiah who is about to lead the party faithful into the Promised Land free from poverty and social injustice.

          • LabTested

            Meg has finally turned at as well. 11pm & spitting tacks. The world is not full of happy bunnies

          • Meg

            I see the right is worried.

            Rightly so.

          • LabTested

            Take a chill pill. You will get Robertson as your leader in 14 months. In the mean time enjoy the entertainment like the rest of us :-)

          • Meg

            Robertson is not suited to being leader. He will be Deputy, then after next year’s election, Deputy PM.

          • GazzW

            Russel won’t like that proposition.

          • Meg

            Maybe not, but I do not think Cunliffe will pander to the Greens, and the Greens will take it because they want to be at the table come the new Labour Government next year.

          • GazzW

            Cunliffe is a bigger pragmatist than Key and far more ambitious. He would pander to Satan herself to gain power.

          • blokeintakapuna

            When using solvents in enclosed spaces, always ensure adequate ventilation.

          • Meg

            Good advice. Make sure you follow it.

    • pukakidon

      What a nasty boil on the backside of this country you are. You have the same traits that Silent T possesses, a festering pile of puke., you should have run for leadership of the Liarbour party, it seems you have all the commensurate attributes of a leader of the Nazti party.

    • CheesyEarWax

      Hey James, so you agree Cuniliffe is narcissist? (clue: he fired the campaign manager for a trivial view of a gay PM that potentially will make him look bad, not the party). What about the fake “bro” accent? (clue: narcissists will always try to relate to his audience by mimicking them). The last clue, which is quite telling, is that the people he works with daily doesn’t like him, his caucus, its because narcissists are in it for themselves not the party.

    • OneTrack

      James, you are sounding more the sociopath with comments like that. Why can’t you be happy, Shearer will lead you to the promised land. Oh, sorry, that was last week. Cunliffe will lead you to the promised land. He will tax the productive sector to death and give the money to you. Won’t it be wonderful – just like Christmas, all year round. And nobody will have to work. We can all go on the dole, which will, of course be a “Living Wage”. Well it wouldn’t be “fair”(tm) if beneficiaries didn’t receive the benefits of the new Dear Leader.

    • markymark

      Clearly you haven’t read the masterpiece that is “I am Harvard”?

    • Rodger T

      Dreamer, better be first in line when Cuntlips starts serving the Koolaid.

  • Col

    Yep I don’t think he will last. Mr Fullofshit.

  • Mr_V4

    If he puts the Mallard duck out to pasture, it will be worth it.

  • GregM

    So the MSM, who repeatedly tell us blogs ( and Whale in particular ) are irrelevant, are once again asking Cam to front up to give political comment.
    I think Cam should ask for an apology, on air, and if they won’t, reasons for why not.
    Good shit Whale, I will be tuning in.

    • Meg

      I think WO should man up and say on national telly what he says on here.

      Call Cunliffe a liar, say those words. Call him silent T and explain what it means. Come on Cam, put your money where your mouth is, say what you REALLY mean and not your infospeak you use whenever you go on telly.

      • Ken Mathis

        that won’t fly, as won’t any of the racist and sexist language that goes for the goose but doesn’t play with the ganders to which he panders

        • Meg

          Cam enjoys getting on the tube too much to be honest about who he is.

      • GregM

        I agree.

        • Meg

          Good. Then everyone can see the real Cam, not the softly softly don’t rock the boat so I get to come back on telly Cam.

          • GazzW

            You’re full of vitriol Meg. You too Ken & James. This isn’t the Standard. Let’s see what the week brings from your new leader. Personally I think labour has made the wrong choice – to end up with a leader that his colleagues do not respect is just asking for trouble and you must know that. Labour desperately needs stability and it won’t achieve it – sure on the surface all will look lovely but factional trouble will be brewing underneath fanned up by the known troublemakers. I think that it’s a great shame as good government need a good Opposition and currently we don’t have that. Democracy is the big loser here – not just Labour.

            If you are going to post here then try and bring some decent debate to the table. Party dogma doesn’t cut it.

          • Meg

            Yawn, please do not pretend this place is anything that what it is. And the language that I have seen directed at Labour from you and your lot on here is quite disgusting most of the time. Especially towards the women.

            But no need for you to panic. Cam was his usual softly softly 2 faced telly man on Firstline. Not a hint of what he really thinks or is like. He made sure he can go back on the box.

          • GazzW

            I haven’t seen any signs of panic yet Meg. I guess we can leave that for the ABC MPs when they get the new seating arrangements from King David today.

          • Meg

            You have not been watching Key then.

            He is a worried man.

  • Sir Cullen’s Sidekick

    He is going to slay John Key. Write this down and let us talk on November 8th night 2014.

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