Tuesday General Debate

This post is all yours.

If you need any inspiration, today’s Debating Topic is:

Polygamy should be legal between adults.

  • Ronnie Chow

    “Australia’s Liberal Party had a secret campaign tool in the form of a personality diagnosis of Kevin Rudd which found him suffering from a disorder known as ‘grandiose narcissism”

    Do we have one in the Labor party as well ?

    • http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/ Whaleoil

      David Cunliffe

  • Alloytoo

    Labours got talent contestants all appear to suffer fromm Dunning Kruger effect.

    • http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/ Petal

      I had to look it up, so as a public service:

      The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which unskilled individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly rating their ability much higher than average. This bias is attributed to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled to recognize their mistakes.[1]

      Actual competence may weaken self-confidence, as competent individuals may falsely assume that others have an equivalent understanding. David Dunning and Justin Kruger of Cornell University conclude, “the miscalibration of the incompetent stems from an error about the self, whereas the miscalibration of the highly competent stems from an error about others”.[2] — wikipedia

    • http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/ Petal

      Incidentally, nicely summed up as

      “The more I know, the less I know”

  • Euan Ross-Taylor

    Polygamy would be an interesting way to increase household incomes, and could provide more care for the young in poorer households. In fact I see many positives on the practical side of allowing polygamy. As a christian I also have no biblical nor spiritual reason for disallowing it.

    • Alloytoo

      Some of the historical reasons for prohibiting polygamy might well have lapsed in our society, the problem I think will be in providing an equitable legal framework. Current examples providing for polygamy are not likely to match our requirements for equality.

      • Euan Ross-Taylor

        Having said this, who would want to enter a relationship knowing that the power scenario could change at any point with the ‘addition’ of a new social partner? The possible power plays could/would be horrendous. Being 50% of decision making is often difficult enough at times.

        • Alloytoo

          Oh absolutely, I think the image that polygamy invokes is the classic bull in a cow field scenario, which might be attractive to teenage boys, but certainly not to wiser heads, and certainly not to a modern liberated woman.

          That is not to say that there aren’t people for whom polygamy offers the best solution for their personal circumstances, but I do think they’re the exception rather than the rule.

          • http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/ Petal

            Yes, but to make it something that is written in law to be forbidden seems a bit over the top?

            If gays can marry, why can’t people who want to marry married people marry?

          • Alloytoo

            Historically I think, the prohibition protected woman from exploitation due to historic inequalities financially and politically. Westerners tend to assume that marriage is (or should be) a 50/50 partnership, that is not always the case, historically and in some theocracies around the world.

          • http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/ Petal

            50/50? I better tell Mrs P, although she won’t be happy at the news. ;)

          • IWantToBeLikeMallardOneDay

            Modern women are liberated, they’re enslaved to pointless unproductive drudgery of middle management, (mis)education and HR rather than the mundane and repetitive tedium of a kitchen or a laundry. Bad for GDP in relation to government spending amongst other easily demonstrable phenomena which is causing anyone with a mind and youth to fly straight out of the place.

    • Patrick

      Are you suggesting polygamy may solve the Labour invented housing crisis? If so I bet Mallard is behind all of this!
      We would be doing a public service taking in multiple partners, keeping them off the streets & giving them a roof over their heads. Might see how that boat floats with the missus…..

    • Bunswalla

      There was a young man from the Clyme
      Who married three wives at a time
      When asked “Why a third?”
      He replied “One’s absurd,
      And bigamy, sir, is a crime!”

  • Andy

    Polygamy would be a great way to generate more work for lawyers. Good news if you are a lawyer, I guess.

    • IWantToBeLikeMallardOneDay

      Saves them from the inevitable conveyancing work (grafting for some decrepit old life-long greaser) that law graduates can all look forward to after they’ve finished being indoctrinated by unemployable left-wing nutters in those mental institutions which we still call universities for some inexplicable reason…

  • http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/ Whaleoil

    Anyone who wants multiple mothers in law deserves everything they get

    • James Stephenson

      The obvious solution here is to marry a pair of sisters. Two for the price of one, what’s not to like?

      • http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/ Petal

        Give this man a chocolate fish for his pragmatism.

      • Euan Ross-Taylor

        You may as well just become a lodger with their family; no thankyou.

      • dumbshit

        how about triplets

      • LabTested

        No girl on girl action. That’s what’s not to like

      • Bad__Cat

        I’ve been told that the pictogram of the Chinese symbol for ‘discord’ is two women under one roof.

    • http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/ Petal

      The answer is obviously to target orphans!

      Damn. Why didn’t I think of this when I was much younger?

      Mrs P wouldn’t stand for it now… there will be blood on the floor. Probably mine…

      • IWantToBeLikeMallardOneDay

        Missus P’s five daughters might come to your rescue…

  • Ronnie Chow

    Can a woman have multiple husbands ? Whale would have to bring in a cocks tax .

    • Lion_ess

      Of course, think Queen Bee.

      • LabTested

        This is practiced in Tibet (or at least it was 20 yrs ago when I was chatting to a Tibetan). Due to a gender imbalance in the population the oldest 2 brothers marry the same woman & any subsequent younger brothers go & become monks.

  • tarkwin

    One is bad enough.

  • Macca

    I heard both Robertson and Silent wanking on about how Labia have been out connecting with the population and how it proves how relevant the party is. Apparently when they wrap it up in Christchurch tonight, they would have spoken to a total of 4,000 people – nation wide!!!!!!!! So out of a population of approx 4.5 million, they will speak to less than 1% – and this has made every news bulletin sinse it started………..and we have an unbiased media in this country?!

    • unitedtribes

      Its a great Party that has to prove its relevants

    • http://manymonkeys.co.nz/ Hamilton Lad

      THat works out to be about $1000 a head. On the taxpayer, too, mostly! Ain’t politics grand?

  • unitedtribes

    Just finished a book by Barry Unsworth called “The Quality of Mercy” A 16th century slave ship’s crew mutinied beached their ship near Florida and lived with the slaves for 12 years. There was fewer women all black so the men black and white shared the women 2 to 1. Great read. No actually that was the sequel. The book was “Sacred Hunger” Both a good read.

    • http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/ Petal

      As someone who reads very slowly, I tend to stick to what I know. However, I’ve been reading books others have recommended this year, and it has been rewarding.

      “The quality of mercy” is a sequel to the Pulitzer Prize winning novel Sacred Hunger – for those who would like to read them in order.

      Cam put me onto the Conqueror (Genghis Kahn / Mongols) series from Conn Iggulden. Conn writes historical fiction. I nearly gave up at the start as I found it took a while to get its momentum up, but I’ve been devouring it since. I suspect I’ll give his Emperor (Romans) series a try next. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conn_Iggulden

      • dyannt

        Thanks for the hint about the Conqueror series, Petal. I’ve read the Emperor series and really enjoyed them.

      • James Stephenson

        Concur. I’ve read them all since I picked up one by chance at an airport and saw “I wish I’d written it – Bernard Cornwell” on the back.

        Highly recommend the “Dangerous Book for Boys” he put together with his brother, for anyone with young sons or grandsons too.

  • conwaycaptain

    Polygamy was bought in by the Prophet Mahommed so that women who had lost their husbands in battle could have a man about the house.

    • Alloytoo

      Or as an additional spoil for those soldiers that survived…..

    • rockape

      Innuites too.Spent some months up their ,death rate up there high now due to drunk driving in canoes back from the bottle stall but still a ratio of about 3 females to one male. They are happy to share their wives but you really wouldn’t want to!

      • Ronnie Chow

        Fish ?

  • Muffin

    Imagine the cock tax if it fell apart!

  • Get a Grip

    Having known a woman in a polygamous relationship(2 sheilas one bloke) it worked out well. She and hubby “chose” the 2nd wife when they were in their late 40’s. The team were happy until the bloke died 12 years later. Cancer of some sort.

    So as someone said to me years ago…….. Don’t knock it until you have tried it.
    Most commenters here don’t seem to have experienced the situation and just blather on…..

  • http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/ Petal

    How did you go with that photo cows4me? I forgot to look – life overtook me last night :(

    • cows4me

      Hi Petal, no sorry to many clouds. Could see Saturn fine but pretty sure we weren’t looking at Saturn as the Ipad star map had no object where plainly there was something of substantial size, will keep looking.

  • BW_Lord

    Just testing to see if I’ve got the link thingie right.

    I see Stuff is pushing the Global Warming barrow again.

    • Agent BallSack

      h ref is a good tool to know!

  • LabTested

    WO blogged about the Arctic ice expanding the other day. Today on the UK Telegraph website this is the most viewed story. It does seem the tide has turned & the alarmists no longer have control of the message.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/10294082/Global-warming-No-actually-were-cooling-claim-scientists.html

  • rockape

    Weather is a bit of a self fulfilling prophesey. More ice = more reflection of sunlight =cooling . A butterfly will flap its wings and it will all change again. I am old enough to have done projects at school on how we could survive the coming ice age!

  • rockape

    Quick start burning fossille fuels before its too late we must save the World! I am starting a new organisation Blackpeace! Our aim is to Kill whales (sorry mate) to save the Krill population and save us from Global Cooling the great threat to the environment. Any one interested can contact me for subscription details.

  • BJ

    Too much of that sort of nonsense and it will really skew the welfare state

  • IWantToBeLikeMallardOneDay

    If your woman is being a fishwife, it’s nice to have an alternative source of poon, but if you want multiple partners, the best thing to do is never marry in the first place, and I’m sure there are plenty who take that course. One wedding is expensive enough. Imagine having 3 or 4, not to mention 3 or 4 mothers in law coming in tow!

95%