Will Green Taliban MP apologise??

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It’s quite amazing how rabid Green Taliban activists get. Take for example old Steffan Browning.

Just a month before the November 2011 General Election which saw this fool enter Parliament, Browning was the spokesperson for another fruit-loop organisation, the Soil & Health Association – Organic NZ.

As spokesman he banged off a media release saying the Government must separate GE food in NZ shops, issuing a challenge to FIGJAM Simon Power and Comrade Kate Wilkinson about GE. A key plank of this attack was a study by a scientist called Gilles Seralini.  

Slight problem though. The Seralini study that tried to link Monsanto genetically modified maize and its weed killer Roundup to increased cancer risks, has been severely slammed. So much so that the Seralini study is to be withdrawn by the Food and Chemical Toxicology journal.

Typical of anti GE and Green Taliban activists, they took images of tumour ridden cousins of Stuart Little in order to create fear and panic that anyone even remotely exposed to Roundup (i.e. most Kiwi gardeners) could be at a greatly increased risk of tumours and even premature death.

Now we find the journal’s board has looked at the Seralini data and have expressed many concerns about the quality of the data and recommended the article should be withdrawn saying;

“If you do not agree to withdraw the article, it will be retracted.”

That’s like the kiss of death to any academic having a respected journal say your research is shit.

The question now is will Steffan Browning retract his press release and apologise? And for that matter old crazy Colin Craig who was slamming Monsanto on Radio Live this morning.

  • flatulence4

    Is specimen K Greg Presland ?

  • Guest

    Monsanto’s product may not be linked to cancer, but Monsanto is no commercial saint.

    • Goldie

      So? Neither is Microsoft, MacDonalds, Nestle, Nike, Dell, Apple, Fonterra – or ANY large business. Monsanto is successful because it invests very heavily in R&D.
      If you have a moral objection to some company’s products, then fine – don’t buy them.

  • Ronnie Chow

    Monsanto has the two main goals of increasing it’s size and providing shareholder returns , like any corporation . To support them simply because they are capitalist company is a little odd , considering that they want to control your food supply .

    • rockape

      Funny BMW have the same aim, doesnt stop me buying one or them being damn good cars!

      • Ronnie Chow

        It isn’t going into your body , though . If you trust Monsanto you need it labeled so that you can specifically buy it , and even feed it to your offspring .

        • PhantomsDoc

          No, hopefully your BMW doesn’t go through your body, but, you put your body and that of your offspring into it and trust that it won’t fail and turn you all into a bloody pulp.
          They have had failures, like every automotive manufacturer. Do you judge an entire company on one product, or, even one sample of a product?

          • Ronnie Chow

            Do you really think Monsanto executives are chowing down on their own product ? Really ?
            We understand machines . We do not understand things we cannot see . So we trust Monsanto to reassure us ? Because their heart is in feeding the hungry ? .
            Be a Monsanto whore if you like , but I prefer Netanyahu’s dictum “Never trust , verify “.

          • Bretto

            You can’t see inside a BMW crankshaft or brake cable. Yet you trust them? Really?

    • GazzW

      What good corporate wouldn’t want to control supply? Try as they might they never will – its just lefty scare tactics. The left never seem to mention Monsanto’s R&D that has led to the annual production of three rice crops instead of two in some Asian regions.

      • Ronnie Chow

        OK , put it this way . Do you like someone telling you that you must eat their choice of food ?
        The world isn’t short of food . Small farmers still produce the majority of crops . If Monsanto wasn’t embarrassed about GMO labeling , they would proudly label their product .

        • GazzW

          No I wouldn’t like it and it won’t happen. The world isn’t short of food? I totally agree but many regions are desperately short and that’s where R&D that leads to increased production is vitally important. Monsanto isn’t embarassed about its labelling, it’s a commercial necessity.

          I just love the hypocrisy in NZ about GE food while we happily export all of our shitty fat offcut meat that no one else would touch with a bargepole to the Pacific Islands and then wring our hands about the high PI death rate.

  • Quinton Hogg

    Who, or what, is Stefan Browning?

  • Mr Cracker

    What Colin Criag, Slamming Monsanto>? REALLY?
    WOW I know where my vote is going to go..

  • Col

    Not many Asian people get cancer do they?

    • Honcho

      Not entirely true, go to Auckland hospital oncology dept. and you will see people of all ages, all nationalities and all backgrounds who are affected by this terrible disease.

      • Col

        Understand that, but within Asian countries less die of cancer than people here in NZ per head of population, but then again that may be changing as it has in NZ. Just so many people here now die of cancer than did many tears ago, or is it that they now define what it is today where before they didn’t know?

  • Statehousekid

    Cam I cannot understand why you are trying to make Colin Craig look like a crazy. Surely he is the only hope of National getting back into power. Isn’t that what you want or would you rather have the real nutters in there, the Greens. I just listened to the interview and Colin did not say he agreed with all these conspiracy theories. He just said he respects the right of other people to have those theories and does not want to say that they are crazy.

    • OT Richter

      Colin or Russel? I know who I would rather see in govt, and he doesn’t have ginger hair and keep losing his flag.

    • http://manymonkeys.co.nz/ Hamilton Lad

      I too share your concerns at the way the MSM (and others closer to home) are trying to paint Craig as a nutter. He does, at least, deserve a considered opinion. He is a little naive and a little too honest and perhaps trying too hard to not offend anyone with contrasting views. His stance on fluoride is the only issue that I have with him, in all honesty.

      • Ronnie Chow

        “I cannot understand why you are trying to make Colin Craig look like a crazy” Well , sunshine , you would have to be crazy to enter the political arena by spouting rhetoric that marginalizes the majority of the electorate .

        • Bretto

          You’re right, the greens have been doing exactly that for years. Indeed most people think they’re crazy.

        • disqus_Aa7kWsb7Fp

          But he is a nutter. Chem trails conspiracy are not in the realm of sanity

    • http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/ Whaleoil

      Because he is…first chemtrails, then 9/11 truther and now Monsanto…the evidence is right there

      • Statehousekid

        He did say parts of Auckland City was sprayed by aircraft using chemtrails to control painted apple moth. That is true isn’t it.

  • Night Stick

    He looks a bit the Dr Kennedy chap.

  • Polish Pride

    Interesting I wonder who the people that put the heat on the study had their salaries paid by. Be interested to know exactly what was wrong with the study.
    Personally wouldn’t touch GE with a 10 foot pole given the choice. If they are so confident in their product label it as GE and let the consumer decide what they want.
    As for I’d rather grow my own organically. Tastes fantastic.

    • rockape

      All for Labeling food if the Greens Label themselves as the party that will damage your wealth.

    • http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/ Whaleoil

      They do and are putting it on the label…it is actually required BY LAW, so don;t come here spreading lies or defaming companies

      • Polish Pride

        Were you replying to me? If so which lies are you referring to and exactly how have I defamed Monsanto. I’d just like to see the full picture (as I like to do with everything). Careful you don’t end up being just the same as the MSM but from a slightly different viewpoint.
        As for the putting it on the label,if it is already required by law then great and thanks for pointing it out, good to know wasn’t aware of that and I haven’t seen one. My understanding is that many of our products contain GE corn or Soy but I have never seen one. Is this a new requirement or did I just miss it alltogether.

    • Bad__Cat

      Can you really taste the difference between organic and non-organic food? And how about them chemtrails tainting you outdoor grown vegetables?

    • Steve
      • Polish Pride

        Thanks Steve. That says it all really and raises serious questions about the call for the retraction. Our current system is so full of holes it might as well have been designed by a Swiss cheese maker.

        • Steve

          Monsanto people certainly get around?
          The TPP and International Corporate Control
          The chief agricultural negotiator for the US [for the TPP] is the former Monsanto lobbyist, Islam Siddique. If ratified the TPP would impose punishing regulations that give multinational corporations unprecedented right to demand taxpayer compensation for policies that corporations deem a
          barrier to their profits. They are carefully crafting the TPP to insure that citizens of the involved countries have no control over food safety, what they will be eating, where it is grown, the conditions under which food is grown and the use of herbicides and pesticides.
          http://ellenbrown.com/2013/11/26/monsanto-the-tpp-and-global-food-dominance/

          John Key has been given and has accepted the task of fast-tracking the Trans Pacific Partnership to completion by Christmas by Obama whilst Obama is “otherwise occupied”! John is one of three people in this country that knows the contents of the treaty draft? Wikileaks have published a section of it but before then it was clasified.

  • James

    I wish that they would label foods that contain GE – the more consumer knowledge the better. I would happily eat GE – especially if it was cheaper. I thoroughly disagree with organic as it is outrageous that we should be limiting food production, and thus increasing prices, when people are starving; as such I am pleased that most organic foods are labelled so that I can avoid purchasing them.

    • OhopeBeachBugger

      I want quality science + chemicals in the production of my food, dammit!

    • rockape

      Labour and the Greens bang on about not being able to feed kids yet science that makes food cheaper is taboo. I am all for tomatoes that last 6 months, getting great results with my tomatoes grafted to Potatoe root stock. Science is what moved us forward for the last150 years Green policies want to move us back.

      • Ronnie Chow

        Same tomato for sale in Pak’nsave for years , save insipid taste . Same boring broccoli , hothouse cucumber , bananas and overpriced aubergines etc . Science has done wonders , but food isn’t any cheaper .

        • LesleyNZ

          In summer, nothing like a home grown tomato, beans and Zucchini, silverbeet,, peas, pumpkins……. Easy to grow.

          • Ronnie Chow

            And how to grow vegetables could easily be part of the school curriculum .

    • http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/ Whaleoil

      They do, It is a requirement BY LAW. Please inform yourself before making silly and outrageous claims.

      • Ronnie Chow

        Really ?. GM soybean products are used as ingredients in many processed foods, such as bread, pastries, chocolates, potato chips, margarine and mayonnaise. GM corn products can be corn oil, cornflour or corn syrup; used in snack foods, fried foods and confectionery. GM canola is used in margarine-type spreads, dairy blends and as an ingredient in tinned and snack foods. GM potatoes can be used in processed products such as snack foods.
        You would be hard pressed to find any third party GMO origin labeling on such a wide variety of goods .
        GM food products on sale in Australia and New Zealand – either as a whole food or as an ingredient in a processed food – must have their GM status identified if introduced genetic material or protein is present in the final food. However, there are exceptions.
        – Foods where GM ingredients are highly refined, such as cooking oils, margarine, sugars, starches, chocolate, baked goods. Many processed foods fall into this category.
        -Foods made at bakeries, restaurants and takeaways.
        -Foods from animals that are fed GM feed.

      • Ronnie Chow

        Really ?. GM soybean products are used as ingredients in many processed foods, such as bread, pastries, chocolates, potato chips, margarine and mayonnaise. GM corn products can be corn oil, cornflour or corn syrup; used in snack foods, fried foods and confectionery. GM canola is used in margarine-type spreads, dairy blends and as an ingredient in tinned and snack foods. GM potatoes can be used in processed products such as snack foods.
        You would be hard pressed to find any third party GMO origin labeling on such a wide variety of goods .
        GM food products on sale in Australia and New Zealand – either as a whole food or as an ingredient in a processed food – must have their GM status identified if introduced genetic material or protein is present in the final food. However, there are exceptions.
        – Foods where GM ingredients are highly refined, such as cooking oils, margarine, sugars, starches, chocolate, baked goods. Many processed foods fall into this category.
        -Foods made at bakeries, restaurants and takeaways.
        -Foods from animals that are fed GM feed.

    • Ronnie Chow

      “when people are starving”….but the cows and pigs aren’t .

    • hookerphil

      Shouldn’t have to be labelled, they are the poor looking most expensive ones.

  • LesleyNZ

    Thank goodness I discovered glyphosate 30 years ago. Think it is time for another spray to kill the weeds and that dreadful kikuyu grass. The Green Taliban have an obsession and snitcher on Monsanto. Monsanto is not the only company who produces glyphosate. Shame on them for telling lies about their study. And how mean and deceitful to do this to the little mice .

    • Night Stick

      I think Monsanto lost the patent for glyphosate in 2000, which is why Roundup is among other brands on the shelf now. Westminster is one brand which is half the price of Roundup and just as effective.

      • Ronnie Chow

        True . Farmers pay around $100 for 20 litres of concentrate , which is then diluted around 1/100 .

      • LesleyNZ

        Yep you are right.

    • rightoverlabour

      Oi leave kikuyu grass alone…. best grass ever! Should be compulsory to dig up all that other crap masquerading as grass and plant kikuyu…. As for the real weeds, Agent Orange is a bit tame for me, and I have had odd glances when asking for it in Garden shops. Napalm is great but it does have that smell of jungle warfare about it….

      • GazzW

        Good morrrning Vietnam!

      • LesleyNZ

        Oi – never! The stuff at my place behaves badly and suffers the consequence.

        • rightoverlabour

          But that’s because you probably never spoke to it right, never had little mung bean conferences and sang Kum ba Ya in gentle flowing see through robes with flowers in your hair…

          For me its the only grass that seems tĂł be weed resistant (probably because its a weed)

  • Al

    I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for an apology from Browning but good linkage with Craig. Seems the silly season has started early this year. I blame global warming!

  • Josh Metcalfe

    Monsanto might very well be evil, but they are a necessary evil otherwise in 50 years the world will have starved to death

    • Ronnie Chow

      That is a bit speculative .

  • Eiselmann

    Greens never apologise because Greens are never wrong, they simply modify their stance…..then call for an inqury, claim its all a rightwing conspiracy and find something else to complain about for about a week.

  • timemagazine

    The greens will never say sorry. Remember, they are the misunderstood ones. They will swipe the issue under the rug, and bring up something else.

  • Steve

    Hmmmm! Guests comment ” Monsanto is no commercial saint” part 2:
    Journal of Food and Chemical Toxicology (FTC) editor Hayes’ decision to retract the Séralini paper follows FCT’s appointment of
    Richard E. Goodman, a former Monsanto scientist and an affiliate of the
    GMO industry-funded group, the International Life Sciences Institute, to
    the specially created post of associate editor for biotechnology at the
    journal, early this year.[10]
    Goodman’s appointment in turn
    followed an orchestrated campaign by GMO supporters to persuade FCT to
    retract the study. Some critics even accused Prof SĂ©ralini of fraud,
    without presenting any evidence. Many of the critics had undeclared
    conflicts of interest with the GMO industry.

    • Bretto

      Doesn’t surprise me at all. It’s like the greens-sponsored “research” on the effects of an oil spill. Or the Labour-sponsored “research” into the contradictory “living wage”.

  • terrynaki

    Shit!!!!!!
    John Campbell may put 2 and 2 together and come up with 36.
    Look out Dairy Farmers,you polluting bunch of rich arseholes.

    Dont you just love New Zealand.

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