Colin Craig – Bat Sh*t Crazy

Not only does he harbour doubts over 9/11, believe homosexuals choose to be gay, thinks ‘chemtrails’ are real he also isn’t sure whether or not man has landed on the moon.

He obviously hasn’t watched the Mythbusters episode where they bust all the so called conspiracies over the moon landings. 

Next thing Colin Craig will tell us that Elvis is still alive after faking his death and is flatting with Salman Rushdie.

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  • Agent BallSack

    But is he crazier than your average Green?

    • patrickstarr

      and is he crazier than someone who cant remember a helicopter ride to coatesville

      • Statehousekid

        He is just being the consummate politician and sitting on the fence. Very smart man who will go places. Peter Dunn is an expert at it and John Key wants him back. Cam is contributing to a media beat up. Cam really is a journalist.

        • patrickstarr

          beatup and a bit disingenuous from Gower. I understand he said he’s “sort of inclined to believe it’

        • SDCLFC1 .

          You can’t sit on the fence regarding the moon landing

      • Pissedoffyouth

        I’ve woken up on the other side of town before with no memory of how I got there.

        All John needs to say is “Fuck I was pissed, can’t remember shit”

        • patrickstarr

          doesnt really matter much now – Banks just confirmed he wont seek re-election

          • Statehousekid

            Well that really is the nail in the coffin for ACT

          • Patrick

            Rodders has spent months rehabilitating his reputation, all those wonderful essays in the NZ Herald, what chance he puts his hand up again?

          • Euan Ross-Taylor

            I think it very unlikely that Rodney would want to rejoin the handbags at dawn brigade.

          • James

            Rodney should run for Auckland Mayor.

          • dyannt

            Oh, I don’t know. I’m more likely to take a look at ACT without Banks at the helm, than with him still there.

          • andrew carrot


          • franco

            It’s hard to say. The problem is that ACT has consistently elected leaders who are problematical men – Prebble, Douglas, Brash, Hide and Banks. ACT is a liberal party that believes in the rights of the individual and in supporting individual effort, rather than the collective tall-poppy syndrome of the left. ACT male leaders have been prime examples of highly individualistic, idiosyncratic men with strong convictions and opinions and an abrasive way with them. They have tended to polarize public opinion of ACT. ACT needs to bring its ideology and policies to the fore and take care over their Epsom selection.

        • Tom

          Went to the cricket one boxing day with some spirits to smuggle in, had a few beers beforehand, then miraculously woke up at central. Last time I touched spirits I tell ya

          • Wahbonnah

            as long as that was the only thing you touched Tom!!!!!

        • Wahbonnah

          add my name to that list too please POY!!!

    • Mr_Blobby

      No I think the Whale boy is wrong again on this one. 5% of the population believe Elvis is still alive and they vote for Winston.

      • Wine Man

        That’s also because it’s the same 5% who cant remember what they did yesterday

      • AnonWgtn

        But Winston is very worried what with his own health, but the movement of his staunchest followers Grey Power into a Green Taliban supporting organisation. They have split to hard left and moderate right.
        Others he will lose to the Conservative Party as they support some of their beliefs.
        Bye Winston.

    • Bad__Cat

      He truly is representative if the extreme right. Ever read some of Redbaiter’s posts?

      • Agent BallSack

        I try not to.

  • paddles83

    Gower he is as batshit crazy as you are.

  • Kimbo


    I don’t have a problem with otherwise clever people believing crazy stuff – Sir Isaac Newton, who was one of the greatest geniuses of all time wasted 20 years of his life trying to prove biblical numerology and alchemy.

    But this is dumb political management. Unless there are 5% of the electorate who believe in plot theories. Maybe, but you can tell that the media are now circling Craig like sharks, smelling the blood in the water.

    It will get worse, and all because Craig is a Chauncey Gardner who has never learned the necessary political skill of defusing loaded questions…

    • Lord_Montrose

      But alchemy turned out to be true. Our Rutherford managed to convert nitrogen into oxygen, so was the first alchemist.

      If Colin Craig says that man-made Global Warming is a scam, he’s right. However he’s clearly a nutter about most things.

      • Bunswalla

        Er, not exactly. Alchemy is defined as the art of turning base metals into gold – not some element into another element.

        In that case, my wife would be a prize-winning alchemist. She can turn hard-earned money into shoes.

        • Lord_Montrose

          Alchemy :”A science that sought to transform one chemical element into another”
          Turning lead into gold has now been achieved with particle accelerators, but the process costs more than just buying the gold.

          • Kimbo

            What is the source you are quoting from?

            The strict etymology of ‘alchemy’ may support the wider meaning you are suggesting, but words are more than just their etymology. Common usage would indicate it means the transformation of gold into lead (which is what Newton was attempting).

          • rangitoto

            That was only a very minor part of what he was attempting. I read a recent biography on Newton called “Never at Rest” which goes into his alchemy research quite a bit. Alchemy back in the late 17th and early 18th century stuff was really really weird shit.

          • Cadwallader

            Easily achieved at the sub-sub-atomic level. It is all to do with atomic structure of each element.

          • nani

            “Peace has an alchemy: … the intertwining, the alternation, between the feminine and masculine perspectives”

        • 4077th

          Mrs Emelda Bunswalla…lol

          • Bunswalla

            Many a true word Hawkeye!

        • Mr_Blobby

          And matching hand bags, don’t forget the hand bags.

    • That was Peter Sellers greatest role! Very apt comparison too!

      • Kimbo

        I was actually always very partial to Sellers’ Clouseau, and so educational when it came to learning French:

        ‘I want to book a rheum’

        ‘I’m here to fix your feun’

        ‘I arrest you in the name of the leu!’

        • ex-JAFA

          I prefer Officer Crabtree and his mangling like “I was pissing by the door when I heard a shit”.

  • blokeintakapuna

    It does seem rather strange though that since the 1st moon landing by mankind there’s been non other since? And the mid 1969 “landing” was rather convenient scaremongering propaganda to get the Ruskies to the negotiating table…

    Strange there’s been no other since, by any other country…

    • OhopeBeachBugger

      Mate, watch this and then think about it:

    • OhopeBeachBugger

      Also Bloke, the SR-71 entered service in 1964. Not since has anything come anywhere near close to that beast. This disproves, to an extent, the notion that because it hasn’t been done before or since, it hasn’t been done at all.

      • PsychoKea

        Watch out for the son of Blackbird the SR72 coming soon

      • Gordon Gibson

        Yes ‘Bugger, an impressive machine with a CRUISE speed TWICE that of a .303 bullet.

        • OhopeBeachBugger

          All I can say is ‘fuck YEAH!’ – cold war technology sure was hot.

    • Kimbo

      You really swallow that line?!

      One word: money

      And how did the moon landing get the Russians to “the negotiating table?” (I presume you mean SALT I in 1972?).Missile technology was a different branch of rocket science from the Saturn V.

      Check your history – they were scared not of the Americans, but of the Chinese, so Nixon and Kissinger exploited the opportunity to use triangulation on both.

      • OhopeBeachBugger


        • Kimbo

          Reminds me of the line from ‘All in the Family’, where Archie Bunker is asking his grand daughter what she learned in school today.

          ‘We learned Marco Polo discovered China’

          ‘Well they are wrong – Richard Nixon, he discovered China!’

          • OhopeBeachBugger

            Ha – good one!

      • Harry B’Stard

        The one thing that stopped them coming over the top was failing wheat crops and indeed the Chinese running up thier arse if they went west.

        • Kimbo

          I’m more partial to the explanation that Stalin and his successors were determined to build an impregnable “Soviet Fortress”, then chip away at the fringes as and when the opportunities presented themselves (Korea, Cuba, Vietnam), and wait for the inevitable collapse of Western Capitalism as per Marx’s prediction – rather than a direct offensive. China, the ideological “enemy within” was the unforeseen factor that undermined the strategy. Mind you, Mao was ideologically bat shit crazy

          Memo to Russel Norman – Marx was wrong. You can give up the struggle.

    • James

      Once you have been, taken samples, and understood it then why go back? The only reason for going now is to set up a moon base to allow further exploration deeper into space.

      • OhopeBeachBugger

        Don’t think the aliens returned for another crack at this one once they knew what was going on, either:

      • 4077th

        Perhaps we should start our own space program. We could send Dotcom, Cunnie, Dr Norml and Ardern to start a whole new world. Big fat dope smoking horses with massive teeth.

    • Euan Ross-Taylor

      Actually bloke, after the first moon landing, there was the second moon landing; and after the second moon landing there was the third moon landing. After the third moon landing, I guess it was considered that we can do this shit, let’s try Mars…

      • Dick Brown

        Beat me by seconds.

      • PsychoKea

        That’s right you only need so many souvenir moon rocks for the display case

    • Wine Man

      Haven’t you seen the movie Apollo 18? it clearly shows the Ruskies got there they just didn’t get back

    • PsychoKea

      That’s because it is a bloody expensive undertaking with no financial rewards at the end of the day, it was always a Cold War stunt to show the USSR who had the most technological prowess

    • ex-JAFA

      Another five such events are claimed, and there were supposed to be more. But one had a whoopsy on the way, and the others were cancelled because of budget cuts.

    • BassilFawlty
  • OhopeBeachBugger

    Doesn’t believe man landed on the moon, does believe in an invisible friend who lives in the sky.

    That is fucking batshit crazy.

    • Bunswalla

      His words indicated he was sitting on the fence, did they not? Not saying it happened, not saying it didn’t happen. It may be a weasel position to take, but he didn’t come out and declare that no way did man land on the moon.

      • OhopeBeachBugger

        This is true Buns – but the moon landing was a sufficiently notable moment in human achievement that most of us know more than a little about it, which is what renders his position absurd. I mean, even Lloyd Christmas was impressed when he discovered the event:

        • Bunswalla

          I’ll only believe it when Kris Fa’afoi tells me he was there and saw it with his own eyes, while eating a Big Mac.

      • andrew carrot

        Let’s say he gets elected. Then lets say he gets a ministerial portfolio. Then he’s asked to make a policy decision based on proof that woman do get raped. Is he going to admit that “until I’ve seen ALL of the evidence, proving that it happens, I can’t say that it happens or doesn’t happen”?

        • Bunswalla

          That’s not a good analogy, the fact that women get raped is not in dispute, unless I missed something. I also doubt he has to make a policy based on whether the moon landings actually happened or not.

          Lest I be mistaken for supporting either Craig or his position on the moon landing, I pay attention, get all the facts I can, and most often take the Occam’s Razor approach to these issues.

          • andrew carrot

            and the moon landings are in dispute?

  • Lion_ess

    I don’t have a problem with people questioning a government’s version of events – after all people were once forced to swear allegiance to God and Country. One’s personal views on religion and conspiracy theories should remain out of the public domain and Colin Craig is making a fatal mistake in engaging with this discourse. He’s being set up to look like a loony and should have more political savvy than he is displaying.

    • Rex Widerstrom

      Bingo. The correct answer was “The moon landings? I doubt they’ll come under any portfolio I’d conceivably be given. Though judging by the number of people who’d like you to be sent there with no means of return, I might see what I can do. Next question… and try to make it less fatuous”.

      If you hold ideas that differ somewhat from those of the majority then common social nous usually tells you (especially by middle age) to keep your trap shut and change the subject. I agree that’s not what we want from a politician when it comes to important matters affecting the country.

      But to not have the sense to deflect a totally unimportant non sequitur from someone who isn’t even a journalist?! Key ruled out Winston as he realised that the liability of any alliance keeping large numbers of ordinary, sensible National voters at home on polling day was greater than any post-election asset he could bring to the table.

      Surely the time has come for a similar pronouncement on Colin Craig?

  • Clearly he doesn’t have an advisor telling him not to say politically suicidal dumb shit in public.

    Jesus Colin, keep it to private conversations yeah?

    • Justsayn

      He needs a Clint – let’s call him Moses.

      Next time… Hey Moses, do we have a policy on that?

      Yep he is strange. That does not disqualify him from public office – just look at the Greens, Hone, the Maroi Party, Winston and crew, most of Labour, Some of National…

    • andrew carrot

      Of course he doesn’t need an advisor – he’s the party and no one knows better than him. Several million dollars spent on wasted local body and general elections prove his judgment is correct on all matters, including moon landings.

  • Other_Andy

    I do believe man landed on the Moon.
    However, I don’t believe anything Patrick Gower says without checking it myself.
    As for Colin Craig, I think he is a lot saner than any ‘Green’ politician and most Labour politicians.

  • unitedtribes

    So we have Peters, Cunliff, Banks, and Dunn as confirmed liars. We have Craig as Batshit crazy. Thank God we have one straight up leader. And then theres that Brown guy.

  • Dan

    You would have to be completely mental not to see through the left wing media foaming frenzy building up on Craig. He is not a polished performer granted but my radar tells me this attack may well come back to bite the rabid dropkicks on the arse.

  • drummerboy

    You would have to be “bat-shit crazy” to believe the official story of 9/11. But I don’t see what this has to do with New Zealand politics. People are putting words in his mouth. Lush and plunket were also criticising him foe believing in God… They then started to talk about there star signs with Hilary Barry.

    • OhopeBeachBugger

      Heheh, that is pretty funny isn’t it..

    • onelaw4all

      Barry Soper was on before breathlessly adding to his alleged deficiencies, his disbelief in Climate Change (gasp)!!

  • NotLen

    Elvis and Lord Lucan both run that takeaway bar in Ranui

    • Statehousekid

      Is he wearing blue suede shoes?

    • Jas

      And don’t forget Michael Jackson works there too

    • Not so. Elvis has left that building!

  • Peej

    So we have Peters, Cunliff, Banks, and Dunn as confirmed liars. We have Craig as Batshit crazy. Thank God we have one straight up leader. Just ask Ian Fletcher.

  • Andy

    Colin Craig actually said “I don’t know”, rather than that he “denies the moon landings happened”.
    Same schtick if you doubt the alarmist version of climate change – a mere “don’t know” labels you as a batshit crazy nutter.

    MInd you. he should learn to keep his gob shut on chemtrails and moon landing hoaxes. He is being very naive in not thinking these little sound bites will haunt him.

  • Patrick

    Peter Dunne – can’t believe that bint Andrea Vance dropped him in it, & he never even got a “hand shandy”.

    Phil Goff believes the age of consent should be lowered to 12 years of age – that warrants far more exploration than Colin Craig’s belief re moon landings.

    Dumb arse pollies are a dime a dozen, some beat up by the once glorious NZ Herald re Colin Craig proves nothing.

    • Rex Widerstrom

      Dumb arse pollies are a dime a dozen

      Cheaper, even. Thanks, MMP*.

      (Yes, FPP had it’s share of safe seat morons too, though the moonbat quotient was much lower, which is why I’m not advocating a return to it, lest my comment be misinterpreted).

  • longjohn

    What a load of tripe!……nothing to see here…….move along..go on.

  • Andy

    It is also true that apparently rational people think you can power an industrial economy using wind power. These are the real nutters

  • Night Stick

    So Craig is a moon landing

    • andrew carrot

      Id like to hear his views on the Kennedy assassination and cold fusion.

      • Night Stick

        40,000 people worked on the Moon project and they can’t have all been duped. Kennedy’s assassination will remain an enigma for the rest of time.

        • TomTom

          And cold fusion is likely to remain a bunch of shit.

  • out2lunch

    Colin Craig has an easy chance to pick up more conservative votes. In fact I don’t think he has to do much with the way national are going. Coming up with crazy theories is not going to do himself any favours.

  • Mad Dog

    “Not only does he harbour doubts over 9/11, believe homosexuals choose to be gay, thinks ‘chemtrails’ are real he also isn’t sure whether or not man has landed on the moon.”

    In other words, he’d be a PERFECT COALITION PARTNER for a Nats government.

    • Garbageman

      Na only the Greens are that bizarre the more he opens his mouth the more i believe he would fit in nicely

  • Journo asked an irrelevant question, got an irrelevant answer. Came right out of left field. There are many things political and non-political on which I am still forming an opinion. (Up until several years ago, I had never heard of the other theory)

  • Cyber Billy

    Aparently there are clubs which can assist you in disorders like this

    Oh boy wait until he hears the one about the cow

  • philbest

    On policy, as far as I am concerned he still scores about 8 out of 10, in contrast to the Nats 4 out of 10, NZ First’s 2 out of 10, and 0 out of 10 for Labour and the Greens.

    • andrew carrot

      what policy?

      • philbest

        End the Treaty Gravy Train, stop paying into the CAGW scam, get an air force again, abolish urban growth boundaries, get into mining and drilling and resources, abolish WFF, amend the RMA to exempt all housing, zero tax rate bracket lifted to $25,000. Any problems with any of that, WhaleOilers?

        • andrew carrot

          Other than “the get an air force again” – presumably a fighter wing – (rather than upgrade the RNZAF’s transport and patrol capabilities, is Colin prepared to pay $100m for 20 antique f16s, then for their upgrade to somewhere near current acceptable standards for another $3bn+ (requirements include but nowhere near limited to new weapons, weapons delivery systems, cross-service communication systems, electronic warfare systems, power plants and spares, a complex logistical support structure – transport wings need upgrading and integration, then buy a $150m+ tanker to extend their limited range out into the EEZ, then recreate a jet-based trainer structure, then pay the huge annual operating expenses (initial training $2m per pilot, expert maintenance and training staff hiring, training and retention, costly exercises with allies, etc., etc.?), these are all bit-pieces of ACT policies.

  • Garbageman

    And now after a carefully edited soundbite (cutting out Lushes rantings) Hillary Barry adds the line “and John Key has indicated he may join with Colin Craig for the election”
    This is nothing more than a deliberate attack on a guy that should really learn to shut up

  • tarkwin

    The fact that he hasn’t watched Myth Busters has lifted his popularity at my place.

    • Gordon Gibson

      Good comment Tark.
      I gave up when their ‘experiments’ seemed to get more and more pointless and farcical.
      Come out to my place, we’ll go out into the hay paddock, wrap up a plug of jelly in a huge big wad of newspapers and let it go.
      Or we’ll fill up a 44 with the fumes from a cup of carbide mixed with water and let that go.
      Y’want fuckin’ experiments, I’ll give ya fuckin’ experiments!

      • Rex Widerstrom

        You’ve been keeping this tourist attraction very quiet, Gordon. Very poor marketing on your part.

        Now I’ve read your description, however, where do I sign?

  • James

    The missus is starting to push me into looking at jobs overseas as she can’t see the Nats winning the next election – and worries about what a Green/Labour coalition would do for us economically. I’ve been holding out for Colin to come through as the knight in shining armour – even though I can’t stand his politics the more odious ones could be controlled as a minor party within a Nats coalition.

    Unfortunately it looks like the missus is right – there really is nobody capable of rescuing the Nats’ strategic stupidity. I may start looking – just got to work out where!

    • Night Stick

      Stay in NZ and go on the dole. There will be plenty of people joining you when Lab/Green takes over the reigns.

      • CheesyEarWax

        Yeah, or have lots of babies and go on WFF.

  • Jimmie

    I could say that he is trying to scoop up the vote of the conspiracy fringe…..just not sure how many votes are in it though.

  • steve and monique

    Conspiracy theorist, or nutter,or both. Guess the labour party has to cozy up to nutters, and so does National to keep in power. Cheers MMP.

  • Peej

    It’s going to be fun organising the drinks and nibbles for the Key/Craig cuppa. I’d put cheese and crackers out. Colin, “Is this really part of the moon?”

    • Dan

      If Craig does agree to a cuppa with Key he will blow all credibility because he has told everyone publically that if his party gets into parliament he will not hold talks until the day after the election. I admired him for that stance and hope he keeps to it.

    • steve and monique

      Assortment of nuts would be better.

  • LesleyNZ

    Mind you why would Paddy ask a stupid question like that? Colin Craig is correct about gays.

    • OT Richter

      and wrong about God.

    • TomTom

      Oh, is he, now? How would he know? Maybe he has, at one point or another of his long and illustrious life, slept with a guy or two cos he’s decided to be gay for a while? And then perhaps he decided it’d be best to remain heterosexual… Yeah, he totally knows all about it. /sarcasm.

      Why the hell would you “choose” to be gay? To go through all the confusion where media and society tells you that this is the way you must feel and act but you can’t. To go through all the shit of coming out to friends and families?

      Honest to god, Lesley, you are pretty uneducated on this – thinking that the Bible has the only word on homosexuality when it doesn’t even deliver a consistent message on that issue.

      You should read or watch Prayers for Bobby (movie is based on a true story) – it’s about a religious mother in the 70s/80s struggling to come to terms with a gay son, who is also struggling to come to terms with his sexuality and his relationship with God. Can you imagine having such a strong belief in God only to feel totally and utterly abandoned by Him? I’m not sure you can.

      • LesleyNZ

        Did I say anything about the Bible here? However since you have brought it up – a couple of verses for you. The Bible teaches that the homosexual act is a sin as is the sin of adultery and infidelity.
        Romans 1:24-25
        24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

        God will never abandon you if you seek Him and obey what he says. Jesus is the way.

        John 14:6
        Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

        I know some homosexuals who are very happy and proud to be gay and promote their gayness. Times have changed. It has almost reached a point where it is confusing to be heterosexual. If you are a Christian and believe that the Bible is the word of God then you must accept what the Bible says and that the act of homosexuality is a sin. I don’t expect you to believe this if you do not believe that the Bible is the word of God. I am not sure about Bobby but if no one told him the above then he has false hope of salvation. I can imagine what his mother went through.
        The Bible delivers a very consistent message.

  • sheppy

    ACT are a spent force along with United Future so the Media have turned their guns on the Conservatives to make sure National are kept out of government at the next election – why are they SO desperate to get the lefties in power to fuck up the economy again????

    Can someone please explain what this lefty utopia the MSM so desperately wants is?

  • Brackish nz

    oh my gosh he has an open mind and doesn’t instantly believe the official stories that are full of holes. please lets have more politicians that feed us the bullcrap.

  • LesleyNZ

    John Key is right. Colin Craig is obviously winding them up. As it is said – Ask a stupid question and you get a stupid answer. Standard of journalism is getting so low these days. Improve your standard Paddy and Marcus. Start being sensible.
    “John Key: Colin Craig is ‘winding up’ media”:

    • Rex Widerstrom

      Grasping at straws much?
      If the PM of the day had said Winston was just “winding up the media” when he claimed the Interisland ferry had run aground, he’d have been laughed out of office.
      Just because it’s that nice Mr Key doesn’t make it any less of a contender for “lamest post facto justification of the year” award.

  • Eiselmann

    Well he is getting name recognition ….given the choice between Colin Craig and a few of his followers
    or ‘Our lord who shines upon us from his many commissioned portraits Prez 4 eva David Cunliffe’ and his band of bestest friends the Communists Greens, the Winston Party , whats left of the Maori party and Hone ‘look at my wonderful family Harawira
    for me….its come on down Mr Nutjob we look forward to your maiden speech.

  • Night Stick

    Damn, Campbell didn’t have time to run the Cunliffe election breach story tonight.

    • Blue Water Coastie

      Now there’s a surprise.

  • snakebit

    The media are having great fun with this. Wish he had been better at fending off those questions but I will still vote for him.

    • LesleyNZ

      That is because they don’t have any worthwhile news. They gotta fill in with piffle. Media have to read Whaleoil Blog to find real news.

  • franco

    Patrick Gower should have asked him if he believed there’s a missing link between men and apes. Craig could have replied “Yes – you’re it!”

  • Mark Pandelidis

    I heard he actually believes in a imaginary man in the sky that created the universe and everything in it….. haha, cant get much more bat shit crazy than that….. ;)

  • Mark Pandelidis

    I heard he actually believes in a imaginary man in the sky that created the universe and everything in it….. haha, cant get much more bat shit crazy than that….. ;)