BREAKING: Internet censorship of 9 year old drunk [UPDATED]

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Of course, trying to censor the Internet doesn’t work. ¬†The video is up all over the place in various incarnations.

Including edited versions on Stuff and The Daily Mail

I think those who are trying to put a lid on this are embarrassing themselves by showing a complete misunderstanding on how the Internet, social media and citizen journalism actually works.

This story won’t lie down. ¬†There is a lot of debate to come, no matter who is trying to shut it down.

UPDATE: ¬†The 2nd video has also been taken down. ¬†Stand by while we source another one. ¬† It’s gotta be out there somewhere.

UPDATE 2: The Daily Mail embed works…have now added it.

 

  • http://www.cadlow.co.nz spanishbride

    This video does not make this poor child a victim, His caregivers make him a victim. They, are the root cause and they, not the video need to be dealt to.

    • Bunswalla

      “Caregiver” – there’s a word.

      • DLNZ

        In this case they are more lack-of-caregivers.

        • http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/ Pete

          I don’t care giver?

        • sandynobb

          Careless givers?

          • Bunswalla

            Booze givers?

          • GazzW

            The kid will need a liver giver if he keeps his habit up.

        • Saggy

          Cantgiver shit

    • kaykaybee

      Amen

    • caochladh

      The video laid bare a facet of life in NZ. The fact is many in this country can not handle the truth and prefer to keep their heads in their backsides.

      • justin

        Couldn’t agree more.

      • mike

        and we know who those people are dont we?

  • Blokeintakapuna

    I would love to hear what the Maori Party think of this and what steps they are taking with the Whanau & Iwi for inflicting such a huge loss of Mana on Aotearoa.

    • DLNZ

      As usual it will be the fault of John Key, liquor companies, benefit cuts and oil companies. Everything BUT poor parenting. If it wasn’t the school holidays they would probably add the local school to the list.

    • Mr_Blobby

      Duh Its the white mother fuckers who have been raping and pillaging our country for years.

      • LesleyNZ

        When you use that bad word you join Hone. not nice.

        • http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/ Travis Poulson

          Quite right. he should have said caucasian.

    • 4077th

      I hope you are not holding your breath BiT.

    • Mr_Blobby

      Maori or English please.

      There is no loss of prestige for New Zealand only for Maori.

      • Te Kapua

        Only if you choose to think along those petty, racist lines. Onya blobby, no surprises

        • Mr_Blobby

          Who are you calling a racist.

          • WABloke

            I’d be inclined to call you a realist.

          • Mr_Blobby

            I would be happier to be wrong.

        • mike

          another denyer

    • kaykaybee

      Well I held my nose ands went to thedoublestandard, but guess what they’re only rabbiting on about the GCSB, global warming, what Josie Pagani said about the website’s opinion of her, whales and drilling. Funny how the left’s silence is so often deafening at these times in NZ. One almost never sees familial and social issues discussed unless it’s the Tories fault.

      • Blokeintakapuna

        When cocooned in an ideological vacuum that has proven to have failed everywhere every time it’s been tried, it’s no wonder they don’t have much else to discuss. Not that they allow discussion there – it’s more a circle jerk to see who has the most vitriol and who can shrill the loudest.

        Maybe if Labour released some fully costed policies that would give them something else to talk/whinge about? Yeah nah… probably not.

    • justin

      I actually am genuinely curious about the response of the Maori leadership. Surely they must see this as a terrible blight on their culture (the rest of NZ see it as a blight on our collective culture). They must be coming out with the right rhetoric… surely?

      • Mr_Blobby

        What World do you live in fool.

        • justin

          Ha – I thought the same thing the moment I typed it.

    • motorizer

      Mana. theres another hijacked word.

    • WABloke

      You’d think that with the continued funnelling of immense funds into Whanau Ora that things like this would never happen. Tui anyone?

    • mike

      you know what the reply will be…….it will be the fault of the pakeha system of course…..and the treaty gives them the right to get their 9 year old pissed

  • LesleyNZ

    It won’t shut it down and I don’t think they are trying to put a lid on it. There is a 9 year old life involved here. The boy has obviously been abused by an adult because providing alcohol to a minor, whether it was Aunty or whoever did it – is a form of child abuse. Is it fair to this child to have the clip forever on the internet? Guess it will either make him or break him. I guess now that a lot want weed legalised, the fact that this family is involved in dope smoking is not an issue? Is it? Hopefully the whole whanau will now be investigated.

    • Blokeintakapuna

      Leslie, sensible use of Mary-Jane by consenting adults is another entirely different issue all together.

      Boy & Girl-Racers act irresponsibly with potential weapons we call motor vehicles, yet the entire population aren’t banned from using their vehicle because of a few irresponsible individuals who cause injuries and death.

      Different situation, but very similar parallels…

      • Rod

        No such thing as sensible use, and their is a wealth of scientific evidence to support that. Medicinal use by the terminally ill, maybe.

        • Pissedoffyouth

          Sure there is sensible use, I use it sometimes to get to sleep or to chill out.

          Do I drive on it? Do I go to work on it? Do I do it when I’m needed for anything? Do I have kids who rely on me?

          Nope.

          • justin

            POY. Will stoners drive on it? Yes. Will stoners go to work on it? Yes. Will stoners do it when they’re needed for anything? Yes. Will parents with dependent kids do it? Yes.
            You’re pushing to legalise your illegal activities and your campaign will give you freedom of narcotics whilst lots of people suffer.

          • Pissedoffyouth

            protip: they already do. And its not legal.

            The idiots will be idiots regardless.

          • justin

            Naive to think that heaps and heaps more won’t try it if it’s legalized.

          • Pissedoffyouth

            No I’m saying that your argument that “stoners will just drive and shit if they are addicted to weed and its legalised” is completely wrong – it’s illegal to drive while stoned already, plus weed is illegal now.

            Yet some stoners break both laws and drive stoned.

            Just like some people can’t handle their piss (handling the piss is having the ability to control ones actions while drinking) and drive drunk into the side of a house.

            Any addiction should really be turned from a criminal issue to a health issue be it caffeine, alcohol, P, getting naked and running around the forest etc.

            I don’t agree with legalisation either Justin – I think it will open a can of worms. I smoke pot on occasion and I know full well the legal consequences so I don’t go flashing it around in public, I don’t go and buy massive amounts and sell out the side of my house.

            However I’m a drinker and I don’t drive drunk, beat the missus or drink before work – the exact same things you accuse all pot heads of doing!

          • justin

            Good arguments (valid points indeed). My angle is that alcohol is already a big big society harmer, why promote (legalization is promotion) another mind effecting product?

          • WABloke

            Just a suggestion; go down to your local pharmacy and have a look behind the counter. It’s nothing less than legalised drug pedalling.

          • Rod

            No we don’t. We try to stamp out the illegal behaviour. We don’t make it legal. Cannabis use is illegal. QED

          • motorizer

            fact is that the people that cant handle (-insert substance-) out weigh the people who can.

            I’ve known junkies who have it together and know where their limit is and I know “car experts” the likes of people who restore c-type jags and Lotus and they dont NEED a speed limit sign to let them that they shouldnt drive fast.

            We cater for the lowest denominator. for the people that cannot make common sense decisions that put the more responsible ones at risk. Is that how it SHOULD be? I dont know but i can tell you that is definitely how it IS. At this point in time in this country.

      • justin

        Except bigger chunks of society will supplement their drinking with more dope if we legalise.

      • LesleyNZ

        I thought the kid said he smoked dope. He is not adult. Anyhow Bloke – if you take up weed smoking don’t drive will you.

    • 4077th

      Is it because they are Maori that you have substituted the word for family?

    • Vlad

      I agree in part with you Lesley, as always. But I think the chances are it could make him, not break him. He will not be judged in ten years because some ancient internet file shows he was abused as a child. He looks like a bright and promising child. Please let this lead him to the future he deserves.

      • LesleyNZ

        I hope so. But just seeing his mother on telly hope could be lost.

    • TC in NZ

      “it will either make him or break him.” Sorry, but getting drunk and stoned on your 9th birthday means he’s broken already. That may not be what you meant exactly but the video and whether or not it should be posted is a red herring and that’s before even taking into account this was a public place, not his living room. It’s also child abuse so not really different than posting photos and names of the bashed baby of the month. We do that don’t we?

      I said it before but that kid is doomed as are many like him. Anyone surprised by this is either naive or worse. It’s also not a new trend so don’t put this one solely at the current government’s feet. That would also put you in the ‘worse’ category.

      • LesleyNZ

        That is true – this poor kid is broken.

    • justin

      No Lesley, those pot head smokers (like the kids care givers) will soon post that smoking dope actually improves an adults decision making capacity. If only aunty was high on marijuana then everything would have been better.

  • Balanced View

    This video should have been taken down yesterday. This has opened this kid up to ridicule amongst his own community.
    There can still be debate without showing the kids face.

    • LabTested

      Without the video there would have been Zero debate. At the very least this video might actually save the kids life, because intervention in this family is now 100% guaranteed.

      • Balanced View

        Perhaps the poster should have taken greater care to disguise the childs face

      • Balanced View

        Also, I find it completely irresponsible for this website to be posting links to the video in other places

        • Dumrse

          Hardly a “Balanced View” if you do that. Eh?

    • Blokeintakapuna

      I agree – however anyone crying over spilt milk still doesn’t alter the fact that milk was spilt.

      If the parents/relatives/caregivers can’t/won’t/don’t be responsible of their own accord, then perhaps publicly shaming the entire Whanau in front of the entire World might have some impact on their attitude?

    • cows4me

      I doubt the kid cares a hell of a lot, probably enjoying the notoriety. Where’s the ridicule coming from, more than 15 minutes of fame here. To imply ridicule is to imply someone actually gives a toss, doesn’t seem to many of those around does it?

      • Balanced View

        The kid is too young to decide if he cares or not. He is probably completely unaware of the implications of his actions.

    • manuka416

      A balanced view: his own community and family will pay attention to him now.

      Thanks for being brave, Bradley Goudie.

    • blairmulholland

      Oh, because of course having a 9yo drunk is not damaging at all!

      Somehow I think the ridicule is the least of this poor boy’s concerns. He is clearly not getting adequate guardianship.

    • dyannt

      There is also the possibility that he will be seen as a “cool” kid in his community. After all, he seems to have been fully initiated into the ‘brotherhood”.

  • Mr_Blobby

    What a bunch of inbred retards.

    • GregM

      Who ? Us or them ?

      • Mr_Blobby

        Hmm good point.

        • WABloke

          So cousin, how’s ya bod?

          • Mr_Blobby

            Not good as you get older it gets harder to loose weight. But I am still fighting away. Unlike Whale boy who has given up.

  • Garbageman

    I see there is now a CYFs probe being launched, I guarantee if he was still with his father he wouldnt have even been returned and a high probability charges would already have been laid, and this from a family that has supposedly already been involved with the police and CYFs, if it wasnt for this video i guarantee jack shit would have been done, almost amusing to see them all over this issue now…..well done Bradley

    • GazzW

      …..and the CYF probe will duly announce in three months time that the lessons learned from the experience will minimise the chances of a recurrence, that there were some hitherto unknown weaknesses in the system that resulted in this case falling through the cracks and internal policies are being revised.

      Then we wait for the next time.

  • Andy

    I expect that had this had happened in the UK, the maker of the video would have been busted for hate crimes.

  • Andy

    Was this video made during a school day?

    • kaykaybee

      School hoildays

  • LesleyNZ

    So this is the solution according to Labour MP Nanaia Mahuta :
    Drunk boy’s mother speaks out – http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/drunk-boy-s-mother-speaks-5794730
    But Labour MP Nanaia Mahuta, who grew up in the area, says at this time of year in particular parents in low decile areas need extra support.
    “This is the holidays, a community like Fairfield I think requires some initiatives in terms of holiday programmes and low cost initiatives so children can occupy themselves,” she said.

    • Mdj

      I don’t see why that would be a bad thing. When I was a young one growing up in small-town NZ we had a local youth club where we could go on Friday & Saturday evenings to play table tennis, cards, board games, Atari 2600 and that sort of thing to keep us entertained. It was free, supervised, and (of course) alcohol & drug free. If that sort of thing is what Nanaia is referring to then I’d support that. I’ve no idea if they exist nowadays?

  • Mr CrAcKeR (I’m Back)

    Call I can say is ‘Have a Drink on Me’

  • Kevin O’Brien

    The video should be shown widely along with information about the bodily damage and addiction caused by child drinking. I understand one episode is enough to cause permanent addiction.
    This is news and the video was properly published.

  • mike

    it is just another way to kill your child it seems

  • steve and monique

    Looks like the “quick hide this before we look bad” solution. TO LATE. Feral parents breed feral kids. No solution to this problem, as shit is shit.

  • Mr_V4

    Hmmm, a tricky one.

    Balancing the publics need to be informed so the correct parties can be held to account versus the young childs expectation of privacy (in so much as it is not splashed all over the internet as some kind of sick fascination).

    I think it would be reasonable to obscure the childs face.

  • Bart67

    Thought I could help…

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