Cry baby enabler Martin Johnston stuffs it up well and proper cuddling Robyn Carter

I’m happy to report this update on this morning’s “Cry Baby of the Week” story on Robyn Carter.

In short, Robyn claims she was so scared during the Seddon earthquake. ¬†All this was made worse because her cochlear implant doesn’t allow her to hear the TV properly. ¬†She couldn’t find out what the situation was via TV, so she is using this to push for live close captioning of news for the 700,000 deaf and hearing impaired people.

And she wants you to pay for it.

What Martin Johnson didn’t reveal is that Robyn Carter is not your average woman stuck in a rural area during an earthquake.

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How many times have we seen the media not disclose the true background of their cry baby situations? ¬†This lady is an advocate for her cause. ¬†Which is fine. ¬†But to pass herself off as the victim in the story really doesn’t say much for Martin Johnston’s spidey senses.

But it gets worse.   VERY much worse:  

You see, Robyn blogs.  And the Seddon earthquake happened on the 21st of July 2013.

What would you expect Robyn to blog about on such a day?  Fear?  Uncertainty?  Damage to her home?

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She cared so much about the earthquake that she didn’t interrupt her blogging about her holiday to mention it.

She was so scared that the only thing she could possibly do is NOT visit Twitter, NOT visit Facebook, NOT email friends or relatives, NOT email Civil Defence… she simply lost herself in her overseas trip to tune out the realisation that she would have to live without up-to-the-minute knowledge of the state of the roads around Seddon that day.

Ok, she blogged on the 21st.  What else did she do?  Did she hide away at home?  Did she not know the state of the roads?  How scared and unsure was she exactly?

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The “Seddon” Earthquake was here

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That is roughly 55 km from the Wellington CBD, and about 25 km from Blenheim.

So where was Robyn?

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Robyn, your 15 minutes of deafness induced fame is well and truly over.  Stop trying to take the tax payer for a ride, and keep your exciting stories to your blog Рwhere they belong.

 

  • Geoff Vader

    Who won the 1976 Formula 1 Championship?

    • steve and monique

      James Hunt

      • phronesis

        Rush was a great movie, wish I hadn’t watched it on the plane though.

        • Roland

          Classic line from Hunt to Lauda, ‘you are the only person that could burn his face in a fire and come out better looking’

    • rickh

      What? Lauda please?

      • Geoff Vader

        I said WHO WON THE 1975….. you get it!

        • rickh

          Just cont say it anymore :)

          • Fanny_Schmelar

            I blame Snoopy!

    • nellie
  • kaykaybee

    Whale harpooned Ms Carter :)

  • Hughesy

    Ouch! That’s the most one sided contest since the league world cup final last year.

  • Col

    See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil, you got caught out, liar liar pants on fire.

    • Robyn Carter

      No – I’m afraid this time the blogger here is wrong. I was definitely in NZ, I was definitely in the earthquake. I wrote my blogs with my photography two months AFTER my trip due to the sheer number of photographs I took, as I explained on the blog of 20 July.

      • Dick Brown

        The article does not accuse you of being out of NZ Robyn.

      • http://www.theologyweb.com/ Roger de Laborde

        Ummm, Cam’s graphic clearly indicates that you were in NZ. His point was that you were happily blogging about your holiday when the earthquake occured, and were so unconcerned about it you didn’t mention it

        • Robyn Carter

          There wre two earthquakes – 21 July – and the bigger one on 16th August. I didn’t blog becuase I dont use that avenue for personal stuff – FB was where I put my concerns.

      • stephen2d

        Robyn, the point is that you are trying to lobby for a cause, in which you are deeply involved, and have not disclosed that conflict of interest. Everything else is a sideshow that you seem to be using to divert from this issue.

        • Robyn Carter

          Where is the conflict of interest? I’d be keen to know. Deaf Aotearoa support me in the quest for increased captioning. The article clearly states that I was on teh board of Deaf Aotearoa.

      • Col

        I am hearing impaired and several family and friends are as well, one being hard of hearing since birth and has no hearing at all, yes we do like subtitles, but we must also remember that when disaster happens we can’t rely on the normal channels for our info, as we found out here in Christchurch more than once, as we are told be prepared for disasters, hence having a disability we need to have plan A, B and C and more organized than those who have less disabilities.

  • tarkwin

    Another bludger gets her day in the sun. Good stuff, keep it up.

  • notrotsky
    • rickh

      Priceless

    • http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/ Travis Poulson

      I like his character on House. Mainly because I can identify with it.

  • steve and monique

    Guess not hiding under her bed would be a suitable answer. Whale 1- Crybaby- 0

  • JohnO

    Another fake tragedy reported in the newspaper. It is collusion between the fake “victim” and the unscrupulous “reporter” to manufacture a fraud on the public by representing un-captioned news as a hazard to a deaf person during the earthquakes. This false use of a really tragic earthquake is akin to the looters stealing things from abandoned buildings immediately after the earthquake and should be prosecuted.

    • Ginny

      I can’t understand why people lie, when in this day and age of social media, it is so easy to be caught out. How can people be treated as credible thereafter?

      • Nige.

        Yep caught out by a Whaleoil reader. Fantastic work. There really ought to be a law against propaganda.

  • Cowgirl

    You would think that after this many whale harpoonings, it would start to sting a bit.

  • http://barnsleybill.blogspot.com barnsleybill

    Hardly a day goes past without another person being caught making fools of all these numpty journalists. When are the media going to start sacking these not fit for purpose repeaters?

    • http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/ Travis Poulson

      That would leave an empty office, that’s why.

    • Dave

      But, but but they did a degree in Churnalism, they are trained and skilled and proficient at writing “stories” Never mind they manage to keep a seat warm.

  • oldmanNZ

    is she crazy?

    she went to a beach during earthquake, there could have been a Tsnami.

    but no one told here as she i deaf….

    I assume she can only listen to the news, and cannot read?

    if she can’t read, then bugger all the captions going to do.

    but she can write?

    • Robyn Carter

      it was the lake – and the earthquake happened AFTER I got home, not during hte time I was at the lake. Sorry about that!

      • oldmanNZ

        All good, I like captions, I only watch DVD with captions, hardly watch TV, yes, I am old and deaf

        • Euan Ross-Taylor

          I’m guessing the captions you watch are not english translation oldman?

  • Robyn Carter

    If you read the blog July 20, Tallinn, Estonia, you will note that I didn’t update the blog for TWO Months after I got home because of the reasons I wrote in the blog…
    So believe me – I was in the earthquake. It was scary, and I was definitely in NZ at the time, and I have a lot of witnesses putting me there. The rest of your drivel is not even worth answering.

    SATURDAY, JULY 20, 2013

    Finland, and Tallinn, Estonia
    It’s about time I started my blog up again. I had every intention to do so while I was travelling, but I simply got too tired. By the time I had done a bit of sightseeing, talked to friends, had a glass of wine, I didn’t have the energy to do anything but download the photos of my camera.

    Then when I got home, everything seemed too much – I had simply taken too many photos. It took me two months before I could pick up my computer and look at where I had been. Although it’s interesting because some of my images I had completely forgotten about.

    I’m starting where I left off – after my day in the Netherlands at Keukenhoff Gardens.- See more at: http://www.robyncarter.blogspot.co.nz/search?updated-max=2013-07-21T01:39:00%2B12:00&max-results=7&start=5&by-date=false#sthash.ckRgtcGC.dpuf ….

    • Dick Brown

      “The rest of your drivel is not even worth answering.”

      Then why post here with one subjective mitigation [and a pretty poor one at that] and then dismiss the other points as ‘drivel’?

      Sounds like you just need to harden up and do what you do best; advocate from high places.

      Seriously though, someone who can survive the dark arts of parliamentary lobbying can certainly survive a few shakes without crying to the media.

      You were snapped; suck it up.

      You think we are dumb?

      • Odd Ball

        Well said that man!

        • Dick Brown

          Well, fair play for her coming on here and commenting I’ll give her some points for sure but she’s going to have to do a wee bit better to convince this audience.

    • Nige.

      A work mate wants me to ask if you are a pom.

      • Robyn Carter

        And no – I’m a 6th Generation Kiwi – and I generally don’t complain about anything. When I see things aren’t quite right, I generally go and fix them – but to do this in this case, we need awareness that it is needed for the majority of people that are Deaf and hard of hearing.

        • Nige.

          OK I will tell him that too. I think you should have made it clear in the article that you had an interest.

          • Robyn Carter

            There was and it is clearly there that I’m on the Board of Deaf Aotearoa in the article. Nothing was hidden.

    • Mrs_Random

      It is not that your concerns are not valid, it is rather than the media should have disclosed your interest in Deaf Aotearoa and CWG, so that the public could make an informed decision and understand that you are pushing for something that is dear to your heart. The media portrayed you as being a scared, deaf, helpless, elderly woman who just wants some support in times of trouble – that’s not quite the agenda though is it?

      • Robyn Carter

        I never hid the fact I was on the board of DANZ, or on the captioning working group. If the media has chosen not print that, that is hardly my fault. I certainly wasn’t portraying myself as that, just that captioning was not there at the time. It not only affected me, but all those with hearing loss at the time who were relying on news bulletins to be up to date. If the same thing had happened during the Christchurch Quake (which it didn’t – captions were provided), then there would have been even more of a fallout.

        • Mrs_Random

          Thank you for clearing that up Robyn. You have supported what we already believed to be true, that the MSM deliberately seek to misinform or mislead the public. My advice to you now Robyn would be to no longer respond to any comments here because they no doubt will only upset you further. Good luck with your cause and remember the MSM will use you – not the other way around.

        • Dick Brown

          “If the same thing had happened during the Christchurch Quake (which it didn’t – captions were provided), then there would have been even more of a fallout.”

          This is nonsense; since it didn’t happen your point is totally irrelevant.

          Scaremongering doesn’t work here and it certainly doesn’t garner sympathy.

        • rrroberto

          It must be over 20 years ago, working at a local (deaf) ladys house with daughter also deaf, but darned sure I saw captions on her Television then, something like teletext which i know has discontinued

          • JohnO

            My golfing partner at the time was doing the news captioning for teletext I think. He did it for about 18months and then they dropped it.

          • ex-JAFA

            Packaged news shows aren’t generally too difficult to caption because they’ve had time to collate stories from the field (which can be transcribed during editing) and to write the other stories for the teleprompter.

            It’s the “live breaking news” that’s impossible to caption because they don’t know precisely what’s being aired in advance, and certainly not what’s being said by reporters and witnesses.

  • Robyn Carter

    And I was definitely at home when it hit.

    • Nechtan

      I think if you read Cameron’s comments that is what he says;as you where blogging on that day, and making trips to Lake Rotoiti the next.

      • Robyn Carter

        I don’t update the blogs on the same day as I take the photos. The Rotoiti trip was BEFORE the earthquake hit.

        • http://www.theologyweb.com/ Roger de Laborde

          Your comment says “I was at Rotoiti _Yesterday_” This was posted on the 22nd, suggesting you were at Lake Rotoiti on the 21st…..

          • Robyn Carter

            Thats right – I was at the lake at 6am in the morning through to about lunchtime. The earthquake hit at 5.09pm in the afternoon AFTER I had got home. But there was another quake about 2-3 weeks later (can’t remember the date exactly) which was even bigger than that one!

          • Ginny

            Take Hamilton Lad’s advice, stop digging

          • YouKNOWitmakesSense

            Robyn, I’ve followed the exchange, and good on you for explaining your position. Can I ask you two things, though? If you were at Lake Rotoiti on 21st, then you went home and the earthquake struck, why did you not blog about the lack of captions when you posted the next day?

            And, since you clearly had access to the internet (to do your posts), why could you not use the internet as a source of news? It’s invariably more up to date and accurate than a news bulletin, written and rehearsed well before time?

            And waiting for the news to be written and then captioned just slows things down more?

          • Robyn Carter

            Simply because i don’t use my blog for that kind of thing – it’s a travel/photography blog. I use Facebook for the rest.

          • dyannt

            I’m into travel and photography, and personally I think a blog about those subjects is exactly the audience that would want to hear about a place that has just experienced a large earthquake.

          • Robyn Carter

            It didn’t occur to me – because I had no photos of the earthquake – so I simply didn’t.

          • http://www.theologyweb.com/ Roger de Laborde

            Fair enough, but in your posts THE VERY NEXT DAY you seem to have been unconcerned enough to not mention the earthquake in your posts.

    • FredFrog

      And so definitely able to log into the Civil Defence website for an update. Or the One News website. Or any other website which would have been able to give you textual information exactly the same as the aural information you are moaning about. Which is exactly what Cam has pointed out.

      Face facts – you are a one-trick campaigner, and you have been caught out whinging in a complete non-story. There are many avenues open to you, and others in your situation to get up-to-the minute sitreps WITHOUT even more taxpayer funds being spent.

      And you’ll find that this is exactly what Cam is saying in his blog post.

      Edit, Addition: Oh, and I would be very interested in seeing the EXIF data from all images you produced on the 21st at Lake Rotoiti – Assuming you have the correct date and time set on your camera.

      • Robyn Carter

        Even when I trawled through websites – they were often not up to date. I’m not sure why I’m a one-trick campaigner. We’re not after taxpayer funds we’re after inclusion, and we’re trying to get legislation so broadcasters are responsible, not taxpayers. I’m still not sure what I’ve done wrong?

        • mike

          So are you willing to pay for the closed captioning yourself?

          • Robyn Carter

            I do already in the form of TAXES. Deaf and hard of hearing people pay taxes just as you yourself do. That gives us the right for information don’t you think?

            But what we are trying to do is get the legislation for captioning built into our laws just like other developed countries have, which would put the onus back on the broadasters, not the government.

          • mike

            User pays… you want an extra service you should pay for it.

            I’m sure that you already receive extra funding from the tax payers courtesy of the Government for your disability…. who paid for your cochlea implant?

            There are other more important issues where this money could be better spent. If we didn’t have to pay for all this extra “feel good” stuff we might be able to afford to give deaf people 2 cochlea implants instead of just one.

            And yes I do believe that closed captioning every program is a “feel good” project harsh as that may seem.

          • Robyn Carter

            1). Not everyone can have Cochlear Implants.

            2). We’re not trying to get the government to pay for this. As in other countries, we’re trying to legislation so the onus falls on the broadcasters to make television more accessible. 700,000 more viewers to a lot more programs and advertising – it’s not difficult. It is done and it works overseas. It can work here. For example, Sky made 132m in profit last year. Captioning would be a drop in a bucket, and they would gain new subscribers. All broadcasters should be running their companies like a business and attract new customers.

            Not sure why you think we have our hands out – we don’t!

          • mike

            Just checked TVNZ’s website… it states that t

            http://tvnz.co.nz/access-services/captioning-4169303

          • Robyn Carter

            Thats the thing though – We want to move the govt funding, away from the government, legislate, and get the the broadcasters to fund. That’s how it is done oversesas. We’re NOT asking for handouts – I’m not sure why you don’t understand that – I keep reiterating it. This is the whole unadulterated truth. Technology is improving all the time, and it gets cheaper by the day.

          • mike

            But Robyn as I pointed out if it was profitable they would do so already… but they don’t… because it isn’t… and because it isn’t they won’t voluntarily do it.

            Therefore you are relying still (and always) on Government funding and or intervention. And forcing them do provide the service by legislation is not the answer… in fact it’s quite the opposite of what almost everyone on this site believes in.

            A private company should not be forced to drop money into a service which is only used by a small minority of society for which it will get little or not return.

          • Robyn Carter

            But that’s where you are wrong Mike – Sky TV already are captioning 17 of their channels – not 100% yet, but it’s growing. More so they are captioning 100% of their channels in other countries. And who are you to know how little or big the return is? We have 700,000 people who are Deaf or Hearing Impaired In New Zealand and nearly 200,000 of them use captions. Last time I did the figures 200,000 is quite a chunk of business! Plus – if a politician took up Captioning legislation as their election promise – thats quite a chunk of votes. Not that it would be sure to follow through.

          • mike
          • mike

            And by the way… Sky gets its funding for captioning from NZ on Air… the tax payer.

          • Robyn Carter

            No they don’t – NZ on Air refuses to give sky funding for captioning because they are a subscribe for television. And that’s fine by us – they are more than able to fund captioning.

          • Dave

            That is a very very unfair comment Robyn Taxpayers all pay tax that is distributed for the day to day running of NZinc. Not one of gets to say I am a tax payer so spend my contribution here or there, you utilize the roads, health police etc that taxes pay for just every other citizen in NZ. I’m not saying there isn’t a need but, being a taxpayer does not give you special rights, otherwise please use my taxes to fix up the road round the corner from me.

          • Robyn Carter

            I’m not saying it gives us better rights – i’m saying we pay tax to things we cannot use – things like being able to watch a television program of our choice, something that you can do readily and probably take for granted. Or being able to hear a television bulletin on the earthquake easily, which we can’t. So we are paying tax and are paying for the little we get already.

          • Dave

            Actually Robyn, I cant! You missed the point. I am partially deaf, and have to have the Tele incredibly loud to hear, it annoys everyone else so i usually watch with headphones on, and then there is no conversation, or i have to click mute on the headphones and remove them.

            The difference, this is my problem, not the worlds, the governments etc. Yes, i need hearing aids, headphones, special attachments on my phone etc, but i make do.

            Life is never ever perfect, the government are accounting for funds expended on behalf on NZinc.

          • Robyn Carter

            Except we’re not asking the Government for Funding. This is where the blog has got this totally wrong. We’re asking for legislation to make captioning mandatory like they do in Australia, UK, USA, Ireland, and other developed countries. This puts the onus on the broadcasters to caption. not the govt, so the 1.2m (which is a drop in a bucket anyway), can go off and be used for something else. There are 700,000 of us, of which 200,000 use captions. That’s a high number and if they want the viewers, they’ll caption.

          • Dave

            I dont want compulsory captions on the tele, we use teletext if we need to. Im managing my issue.

          • Robyn Carter

            It will still be closed caption – ie – user driven – not captioning for everyone – that doesn’t change how it is now.

          • Robyn Carter

            I think once again you misunderstand the issue. At present only 17% of free to air television is captioned. In Australia, where they have laws making captioniing mandatory – 85% free to air television is captioned. In Ireland, UK, USA it’s 100%. In NZ we have no laws for this access, and it is a human rights issue. The HRC gets more complaints re the amount of captioning on our TV than any other issue. In NZ we only have ‘reasonable access’ but nothing to say what reasonable is. What may be reasonable for you, may be different to another Deaf person, and definitely different to what a hearing person might think is reasonable. And if this site is to be believed then hearing people don’t think it’s an important issue so therefore 17% is enough for us!

            However, there are 700,000 Deaf and Hearing impaired in NZ and you have just admitted to me you are one of the people using the captioning service when needed.

            By making captions mandatory by law, then we will be able to get more captioning like Australia, UK, USA, which will give us more choice to see what we want to watch, including information when there is a disaster like in the Seddon Earthquake, or any other disaster that may strike NZ at any given time.

            The vehicle for captioning is still the same – using Freeview /Teletext.

            The funding once this happens would be put on the broadcasters, not the govt. The model works well overseas, and there is no reason why it can’t work here.

            I’m for an inclusive society and when we can’t access the information we need – the Dear and Hearing impaired are marginalised.

          • Robyn Carter

            The other thing is – lucky you for being able to turn the TV up to hear it, or wear earphones – something many deaf can’t actually do. In my case, like many others – I rely totally on captioning. I’m lucky to hear three words – it’s not volume I’ve lost – it’s clarity.

          • Robyn Carter

            And yet you use the taxpayer funded service now for captions already – a bit off you attacking me then isn’t it?

      • Robyn Carter

        The EXIF data is there on my photos. But why should I be proving myself all the time when I haven’t done a thing that’s wrong except try and help others. Don’t forget too that there was a second very large earthquake on the 16th August. And that was the one where there was even less information available.

    • Justsayn

      No-one said any different.

      Good on you for taking a chance to publicize a cause you clearly believe in, but you should avoid hyperbole and disclose your advocacy role. Failing on either count merely undermines the message you wanted to give.

      • Robyn Carter

        I NEVER hid my advocacy role. The reporter KNEW I was on the board of Deaf Aotearoa, and in the Captioning Working Group. That he didn’t print that out is hardly my fault? I don’t have any say on hwat they print unfortuantely.

        • http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/ Cam Slater

          Robyn, quit digging…you never even mention the earthquake…at all…on your blog…the next day you carried on with your holiday posts…now you are claiming it was a massive event…yeah…so massive you said nothing or did nothing on your mouthpiece, your blog….or on twitter.

          Basically this event rated so much in your life you said precisely nothing about it until now…when it suited.

          The evidence is there for us all to see about your concern about the earthquake.

          Quit lying.

          • Robyn Carter

            So – I rated a photo on Blipfoto on 21st July – You forget there was a second bigger earthquake on 16th August. I was on the internet for hours both nights – trawling for information, as well as talking to other people. These things come into my newsfeed and I deal with everything that does.

          • Robyn Carter

            I also don’t really tweet – even though I have an account i rarely use it.

        • Justsayn

          That’s an interesting twist in the story interesting… I wonder if they failed to explain your involvement to make the story more dramatic that it might otherwise be. I can see why that would annoy the hell out of you as it now undermines your message and make you seem less, well, less sincere.

          Are you going to complain to the paper about it?

          • Robyn Carter

            They disclosed it – see above comment

        • Justsayn

          I owe you an apology Robyn. The article did disclose your role in the advocacy organisations, so I take back that aspect of my comment.

          http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11226329

      • Robyn Carter

        Thank you

  • Dick Brown

    Some fine weapons grade wreckage right there Cameron.

  • Nige.

    She’s probably not even deaf.

    • Robyn Carter

      Those that know me know I am. Can’t get much deafer than me – totally deaf without my cochlear implant.

      • Muffin

        Nige’s comment was in bad taste and unusual for him

        • phronesis

          It was offensive but I suspect he was just pointing out that it is very hard to know what the truth is when it is clear that relevant information has purposefully been left out in an attempt to mislead the reader.

          • Muffin

            you can only take ofence not give it. but certain ettiqute should be observed sometimes

          • phronesis

            Tell that to the offensive line of an NFL team.

      • Nige.

        OK I will tell him.

        • Robyn Carter

          Tell who Nige? Are you behind this attack?

          • Nige.

            yesterdays news. tomorrows fish and chip wrapper.

            Dont read into it too much. I was at work reading the article to my workfriends and one of them (who himself has arthritic deafness) said “tell her shes probably not even deaf”. off the cuff remark.

  • rickh

    Perhaps when Ms Carter gets her mojo back she could check WO for disaster updates rather than TV as it didn’t take long for her to pop up on here

  • Robyn Carter

    Oh and thank you for the publicity to my blog and Photography blog. Much appreciated :)

    • Muffin

      I dont believe the old addage that any publicity is good publicity applies here.

      • Robyn Carter

        Well – I don’t see why it’s bad publicity – knowing i haven’t lied, and I haven’t done anything wrong. I was home at the time of the earthquake. The earthquake struck at 5.09pm on 21st July. That was the first one, but not the biggest. I had been at the lake BEFORE it struck that early that morning, and had no idea it was going to, as I can’t predict earthquakes. I was well and truly home at 5.09pm. I was definitey not overseas. I don’t write my blogs on the day I do things.

        • phronesis

          It’s not that you haven’t lied it’s that you haven’t told the truth. You frame a photograph to leave out what you don’t want to show but you can’t leave out highly relevant conflicts of interest when you go running to the media.

          • Robyn Carter

            1). I didn’t run to the media. – We have a campaign on at the moment which they have picked up. They came to me.

            2). I never hid the fact that I was on the Board of Deaf Aoteora in fact the newspaper article CLEARLY states that I am there…”Robyn Carter is a board member of Deaf Aotearoa New Zealand which, with the National Foundation for the Deaf and the Hearing Association, is using Hearing Week – this week – to promote a campaign for “100 per cent broadcast captioning”.

            3). I told the truth, and will continue telling the truth.

          • Lux

            Typical lazy journos, looking for a make believe story where there is none, and you helping them for your own cause.

          • Robyn Carter

            There is no make believe story. I was in the earthquake. (Both of them – 21 July and 16 August). And yes – I was scared. I’m not embarrassed of that fact – until you’ve been in an earthquake that size you can’t really understand. Further, the TV was going but there was no captions. That I’m afraid is unacceptable.

          • Lux

            So, what you are saying is, whatever happens out there, you need a TV with captions on to survive?

          • Robyn Carter

            No – that is what you just said, not me.

            But captioning can allow pertinent information to be imparted to those that need it for safety and to allay fears. There’s more than enough people in NZ that need it.

          • Lux

            You need to realise, you cannot caption real live news, at and, when it is happening, not everything in the world that happens should be revolved around your handicap, we all have problems, make sure you are safe.

            And think ahead, to make sure, you are safe as anyone else can be.

            It’s not that hard, you do not need a tv, with captions, to survive a disaster.

            Man talk about first world problems.

          • Robyn Carter

            Live news is captioned in Australia, UK, USA, Ireland and many other countries overseas – so you’re definitely wrong on that one. Live events were captioned during the Christchurch earthquake for all Deaf and Hearing impaired and it was a vital service for those people during the event. When you are deaf it is very difficult to get information in a timely and safe manner. We’re not talking about survival. We’re talking about access to information.

            I challenge you to be thrown into chaos without information. But of course – you yourself can just ring a friend, talk to someone on the phone, listen to the radio, or switch on the TV and hear. There is a large number of NZ population who can’t do that so yes, they are marginalised, especially in a disaster.

          • Lux

            Grow up, when a disaster happens, everyone who is really in chaos is hurting, and then there are the pretenders ..

            and the ones who never shut up about it ..

          • Dave

            Well said Lux A very dear friend of mine was enjoying a nice lunch at mall when the ChCh earthquake hit. A beam and wall collapsed crushing the table they were at, she was lucky (in some ways) the falling beam smashed the table and she had a smashed kneecap and broken leg. She managed to crawl to others who were much more seriously injured and assist and comfort them. She hasn’t mentioned this outside her circle of close friends, no glory or attention. She says “it was just right to help, besides I couldn’t go far I couldn’t walk”. She still can’t walk quiet the same, but remains very quiet about what she did and how she suffered .

          • Dave

            Ah , and the population of Aussie is 21 mill, um….. NZ 4.2 mill, guess Nz does not have the resources to provide live services, however I can tell you, you are misinformed, the service in Aussie is limited Robyn It’s not as you suggest! Poor comparison

          • Robyn Carter

            Australia got Mandatory captioning by law in the last two years – in the past yes – it hasn’t been good, but the figures are now up to 85%.

            It makes no different to the amount of population – the Figures for the Deaf per capita are still the same. The resources are there – and we’re not asking the govt to foot the bill.

          • Robyn Carter

            And – Just where is the conflict of interest?

        • Odd Ball
        • Muffin

          its not as much the earthquake and where you were as much as the poorly disquised lobbying, masquarading as news.

          • Robyn Carter

            But I never hid the fact I was lobbying or that I was on the Board of Deaf Aotearoa. The reporter knew both – but it’s hardly my fault if he didn’t print it?

          • YouKNOWitmakesSense

            Who approached who for this article, by the way?

          • Robyn Carter

            NZ herald approached me

          • http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/ Cam Slater

            And how on earth did they know about all this scared-ness of you when you stated about you don;t blog or write about personal stuff…I think you should really put the shovel down, you are digging a much bigger hole for yourself .

            So the Herald just rang you out of the blue about an earthquake and your feelings 9 months ago…i call horse dung on that.

          • Robyn Carter

            No – We have kicked off a campaign for increased captions this week together with the Hearing Association, National Foundation for the Deaf and Deaf Aotearoa. They approached us for the article, and we explained the importance of captioning and used the fact of no captions in the disaster as an example. Which is VERY valid, especially for the thousands across New Zealand with hearing loss. You never know when the next disaster will hit, and if we can ensure that information is being captioned next time, then the awareness raised has been good.

            I don’t use my blog much about personal stuff as I’ve said before. My blog for the last 4 years or so has been mainly photography and travel based. I use facebook mainly for my personal stuff, and there was quite a bit about the earthquake there. I’m not digging a hole for myself – I’m being open and honest. You on the other hand have been quite nasty, and openly attacked me when you don’t know me at all.

            There were TWO earthquakes – one on the 21st July and the other bigger one on 16 August, yet you’ve tried in every way to belittle everything I’ve said and to cast me in a bad light. But until you yourself have been in a large earthquake, without proper access to information, then you can’t really understand. I was asked why didn’t I ring Civil Defence. Even with my Cochlear Implant, I don’t hear that well on the phone. Especially to strangers. At the time of the phone call with the NZ herald, I had people helping me with the phone call otherwise I couldn’t have done it.

            I’ll repeat. I’ve done nothing wrong. There is no conflict of interest. Deaf Aotearoa support me in the quest for increased captions as this is what the majority of Deaf and Hard of Hearing people want. When the Christchurch earthquake hit, there were captions 24/7 on every bulletin they put out. This didn’t happen for the Seddon earthquake, but are still a lot of Deaf and hearing impaired people in the Marlborough and Wellington area that could have done with this information.

            We’re not asking Taxpayers to front up with this money – we are asking for legislation to make captioning mandatory – as other countries around the world have, built into their laws, such as Australia, UK, and Ireland and USA. This would put the onus on broadcasters, not the government. The Right for information is covered in the UNCRPD document, something that the New Zealand Government has ratified.

            I will repeat. I was scared. I’m not embarrassed to admit it. The earthquake was awful and I shook for about four hours afterwards. How dare you try and trivialise what I felt, when afterall, I was the one that experienced it and you didn’t. You aren’t even Deaf or hearing impaired – so how would you even understand how important not getting pertinent information was. Not everything was on the internet in a timely, easy to access, fashion.

            So there is absolutely NO horse dung here at all.

        • FredFrog

          No one is saying you were overseas. Read carefully. The point is being made that on the day in question, you had internet access, and could have visited a myriad of websites to get the information you required.

          A point that Cam hasn’t made, which maybe you should have thought of – you state that your implant allows you to use the phone, but not hear TV. Well, here’s a thought – why didn’t you pick up the phone, and call Civil Defence? Or a friend or relative?

          No, instead you hide behind a veil of half-truths to try to push your campaign agenda.

          • Robyn Carter

            Because a). the implant is still not that good and I dont’ hear strangers well on the phone. That wasn’t discussed at all. I was trawling through stuff to get information but it wasn’t that clear – when it was on television – simply not captioned. There are no half truths – and I’m not asking or taxpayers money. It is this blog that hs it wrong.

    • Odd Ball

      Are you going to address any of the inconsistencies illuminated by the original post?, or do you intend to keep going off on tangents?

      P.S. There already is a well known travel blog in NZ, yours has a long way to go to be as popular.

    • phronesis

      I like your photos. Particularly the way they are framed and composed. Protip, you won’t get away with framing and composing your stories to the media the same way as long as Whaleoil is around.

      • Robyn Carter

        Thank you – unfortunatey I wasn’t in control of the writing – so why am i to blame?

        • phronesis

          You may not be to blame.

          If you are not to blame then you have been badly misrepresented by the journalist in question. I suspect you are not entirely innocent but full credit for fronting up here, the “journalist” you spoke to never will.

          • Euan Ross-Taylor

            I was going to say something similar. Robyn, again good on you for commenting and I appreciate you feel misrepresented. It would go a long way to your credibility to let us know that you will take up our/your(?) concerns with the journalist in question telling them how disappointed you are with their representation of the ‘facts’. If you could give us that undertaking, I for one would be more sympathetic, but as Cam has said, why absolutely no blogging of the fear you now say you had until this article? It makes your claim sound spurious.

          • Robyn Carter

            Well actually – I thiink the journalist in this blog is the one doing the misrepresenting – HE never asked me any questions at all and NEVER asked my side of the story at all. So – as far as misrepresenting – this site is the worst of all.

    • Francis Heke

      Yep! It’s always good to know the blog sights to avoid. And the photography? Nah.

    • rrroberto

      I think its a great photo of Sax at Rotoiti. And there is plenty of time to be at Rotoiti and be back home for the EQ at 5.09pm. I think we all understand how scary that would have been , possibly wondered if you would have some nice scary photos of the EQ to either put on the Blog or illustrate the situation to the trained and skilled journalist who wrote the story.How it looks objectively is that the big thing on July 21 was the scenery at Rotoiti,However the newspaper article seemed to paint an altogether different picture

      • Robyn Carter

        I didn’t write the piece unfortunatey. Sorry about that. Out of my control. Glad you like the photo. Unfortuantely while the earthquake was happening, getting my camera out was the last thing on my mind :)

    • http://manymonkeys.co.nz/ Hamilton Lad

      Robyn, you sound like a nice enough lady. So stop digging ……

      • Robyn Carter

        I’m not – I’m actually telling the truth. I have nothign to hide :)

      • Gaynor

        This story is bleeding shocking and I don’t believe it was only the journalist at fault …Robyn should be ashamed of herself.

        • Robyn Carter

          What is shocking Gaynor? That I told the truth? That there were no captioning on television bulletins from Civil Defence? That I was scared? (I was). Read through some of the commetns I’ve left – and you might understand a bit more.

          • Gaynor

            The whole story is shocking you were not even in the country.

          • Robyn Carter

            Well Gaynor – that is where the blogger is wrong. I was in the country. I wrote my blogs after I came back and that explanation is clear to see. Further there were two earthquakes – on on the 21st July and the other on the 16th August. I was here and at home for both. I sincerely wish I hadn’t been. If you look at the blog I wrote on the 20th July you will see I was blogging TWO months afterwards.

          • Lux

            For a heads up in future, if it happens again, head to the Trade Me, Message boards, they are one of the best places for earthquake news, besides here of course ..

          • tevra

            Civil Defence is something one would think would be necessary for everyone and anyone to be able to hear or read.

    • http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/ Travis Poulson

      Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but our demographic isn’t likely to match yours, so the chances of you gaining any long term readership out of it other than people checking up on it out of curiosity today are virtually..well….nil.

      • Robyn Carter

        That’s okay Travis – I still got some hits :)

    • austenpub

      Afraid to say this but the image on your site doesn’t deserve such prominence but each to his/her own. I would urge a lot more attention to balance and composition. Subtlety is difficult to achieve.

  • YouKNOWitmakesSense

    Well, that escalated quickly!

  • austenpub

    Manipulative is the word that comes to mind. If you truly care about those with hearing difficulties, try much harder to be upfront when you take the chance to push your agenda. The story behind the newspaper article suggests you have been less than authentic. This brings an odour to all deaf lobbying. So you taint the cause with your naive effort to take advantage of a rare natural event. You need to realise the shame and put pride back in your cause by telling folk you won’t be so manipulative again.

    • phronesis

      I agree, but it is hard to know how to apportion blame between Ms Carter and the MSM journalist.

      • austenpub

        You mean who initiated the story? Perhaps Robyn can tell us that.

        • phronesis

          Not just that, I don’t trust the journalist to not spin the story to such an extent that it doesn’t represent what Ms Carter actually said at all.

        • Robyn Carter

          NZ herald

      • Ginny

        Yes, the MSM journalist will write what he wishes, but her social media should surely collaborate her story, which it doesn’t. She was unconcerned about the earthquake.

        • Robyn Carter

          I was very concerned about the earthquake – my blog is a travel one – I rarely write about what is happening about me – I leave that to Facebook and my friends.only.

          • Dave

            Welcome Robyn, good of you to communicate what happened. Enjoy the blog, its worth coming to.

          • Robyn Carter

            Probably won’t come here again

          • Steve (North Shore)

            Too busy trying to get on the Greens/Labour list?
            They will change for something sensational you know

          • Robyn Carter

            I’m not a Greens supporter. I have no interest, zero interest in becoming a politician.

          • tevra

            as far as I have noticed a politician is one who is unwilling to find an honest job, the exception is those who are unable to do real work.

          • Dave

            unbiased news, tells it like it is, and debate with real Kiwis!!

    • Mrs_Random

      Perhaps read the comment section austenpub. Robyn has responded several times advising she was transparent with the MSM, they in turn however were selective in how they spun the story.

      • austenpub

        Who initiated the story? Why go along with a shabby effort to lobby in the light of a natural emergency?

        • Robyn Carter

          Herald.

          • stephen2d

            And how did they find out about your issue?

          • Robyn Carter

            Through our campaign of trying to increase captioning across the board through hearing week.

    • Robyn Carter

      The newspaper article says I’m a board member of Deaf Aotearoa. I hid nothing. I haven’t been manipulative. The things that I said truly happened. What more can I say?

      • austenpub

        The manipulative aspect is that you “invented” a heightened level of difficulty that you say happened when the earthquake struck. This clearly was not the case because you actually had several alternative methods of finding out the status of various services etc.
        Anyway the point is that you used a rare event to highlight deafness issues when there really weren’t any. It gives people the wrong impression about deaf people. Most deaf people would pride themselves in their ability to cope with the earthquake rather than use it to cry “victim”. I would prefer to read about all the deaf folk who handled the emergency well. That would spread pride and dignity. Your shallow opportunist attempt to gain sympathy for deaf people does not bring pride. No one made you give the reporter a story. Instead you could have told him you coped well (which you did) and would be looking at how others coped and lessons learnt.

        • Robyn Carter

          No – I will re-iterate again – the earthquake was a scary thing – particularly on 16 August when it was a 6.7 or 6.8. There was no crying wolf – there was televised information but none of it was captioned. Until you yourself have been in the same situation, who are you to belittle what one feels?

          More it’s a lesson on what could be done to improve the life of Deaf and Hearing impaired people in light of another disaster. (I hope there aren’t any). And why would you want not to let people have that information?

  • sheppy

    Robyn, was the caption “It is time to vote now” put on the TV on purpose and if so who’s idea was it?

    • stephen2d

      Very good question! Robyn? After dealing with a few journalists, following a few minor CHC quakes, there is a trend in these things happening.

      • Robyn Carter

        No – I think it was just the program on at the time – the Herald Photographer photographed it – no idea which program it was.

        • stephen2d

          I call BS on it, Robyn. Sorry.

          • Lux

            Me as well, some photographers set up background stuff, to sell the story as real, especially newspaper stories.

          • Robyn Carter

            no – the captining was there – it was a programme between 5 and 6 on TV on monday night.

          • Robyn Carter

            It was American Funniest Home Videos and the audience was voting as they do on that program. Nothing sinister or untruthful

        • Lux

          When was the photo taken?

          • Robyn Carter

            between 5 and 6 on Monday night just gone. No idea what the programme was sorry.

  • Custard

    This! This is what journalism should be about. Research and asking the questions that matter. Not hearing some bloody sob story and giving them all access to the printing machines.

    • Robyn Carter

      Except this blog did not do the research and has attacked a perfectly innocent person in this case, that volunteers time and effort for no monetary gain to help others. I’m not sitting back drawing an unemployment benefit and moaning. I’m actively trying to improve lives for lots of people.

      • Custard

        Robyn, I did not mention anything about any benefits. Two, I am not attacking your time you volunteer or your financial matters. Three, why was your affiliation not mentioned in the article? You were interviewed, why not state it?

        • Robyn Carter

          My affiliation was stated in the article, so yes I was attacked unnecessarily.

  • peterwn

    Something funny here! The wife of a former NZ Electricity Department General Manager worked with the deaf and could lipread. He appeared on TV now and again about Manapouri and Auckland Isthmus 220kV transmission (big issues at the time). They were sometimes heavily edited and his wife noticed that the words his lips were uttering did not match the soundtrack indicating some rather serious cutting and pasting – viewers could be misled. He then got the typing pool head to accompany him to radio / TV interviews with a heavy reel tape recorder (no cassettes then) so he had his own recording of what he said.

    His wife did not need subtitles!

    (Bruce, you were pretty irascible sometimes but your heart was in the right place)

    • Robyn Carter

      Not everyone who is deaf can lipread!

      • Kendall

        Just like to say good on you for fronting on this blog. Lesser people would run and hide.

        • Robyn Carter

          I have nothing to hide. What concerns me is that the second bigger earthquake was on the 16th August, not the July one he’s pointing out. It was serious. It was big. and it was scary and I challenge anyone, even hearing people, to like what happened. And yes – there were difficulties when there was no captioning.

      • tevra

        I have tried but I can not manage to read lips.

  • James M

    An alternative to having millions spent on the near impossible task of close captioning everything on TV, particularly Live broad casts. Would be to buy YOURSELF an assisted listening device such as an induction loop. These operate pretty damn well with the implants Telecoil.

    Don’t know what I’m talking about?

    Well actually I do, in my time in the telephony and video conferencing world I have had to cater solutions anywhere from Desk phones with for magnetic coupling to approved HAC (Hearing Aid Compatible) hearing aids. To full meeting rooms with induction loops for those with cochlear implants.

    For those wonder what the induction loop is

    http://www.medel.com/data/editor/image/US/ALDs-with-OPUS-2/ald-Induction-Loop.jpg

    • Robyn Carter

      and they don’t work for all hearing impaired or Deaf people unfortunately. And they definitely dn’t work for all television when there is background music/noise behind the speech. Sorry.

    • tevra

      it wasn’t impossible for the U.K. or the U.S.A. to caption everything.

    • Michele Linder

      So what about those of us who find no benefit in technology? I began losing my hearing in childhood and have tried to find benefit with hearing aids and ALDs, without success for over 35 years. For some of us, captioning is the only solution.

      • tevra

        It was technology that caused me to lost most of my hearing. RAAF

  • Wine Man

    Sad that some people just want the world to revolve around them, the sooner some people start realizing the world doesnt owe them anything the better. Sorry Robyn but you don’t get any sympathy from me, not when there are so many other mediums now to communicate than TV.

    • Robyn Carter

      Thats just it – I don’t think the world owes me anything – but if I see something that needs work, I’ll try and better it – not just sit back and complain. That’s why I’m lobbying on behalf of the many that do want it. And there are rather a lot of deaf and hard of hearing people that do and would like more captioning on TV, especially when it comes to information.

      • tevra

        I agree with you that this is a noble cause. I have to smile and nod in many normal conversations even though I was told I didn’t quite need a hearing aid. it is the higher tones that don’t registers.

    • tevra

      Have you been to the United States or Canada?
      everything you view in the theatres or on telly there will be captioned and you have a choice of languages.

  • Vlad

    Unfortunately a campaign to live caption news on broadcast TV is about as sensible in today’s world as a campaign to bring back the man with a flag walking in front of a car travelling at 5 mph. Technology has marched on. I cannot recall a single significant event that has been “broken” or better described in a timely way by broadcast TV. I am much better informed by being on line. About the only campaign I would support would be one that had the broadcasters pop up a caption that said “Go on line for written information.”

    • Rick H

      exactly, Vlad.
      I laugh often, when, well I hardly bother these days, but if I see the “news” on TV, it is ALL stuff I saw the day before online.

  • terrynaki

    Hi Robyn,all in all I think you a trying to help alot of people,if things arent perfect thats just the world we live in,thanks for all you do and hope you keep up the good work

  • Mdj

    This has been an interesting thread. Having the other side of the story involved is great and I for one would like WO to reach out to those they run stories like this on, where possible. At least for right of reply.

    Good on you for participating Robyn.

  • Jane

    I’m a long term reader – never posted here before but I feel I should. I’ve struggled with this WO cry baby story when normally I would have a laugh at them. The reason is that I’m deaf too. I’m not some tax burgling bludger. I pay in the tens of thousands so that I can have the equipment I need to participate and work. I make good money so I can afford too – it worries me that other kiwis who are on less money might not to be able to do that. If you have a medical cause of hearing loss you get f all help because it’s not covered by ACC. While I get point that maybe Robyn’s association with the cause wasn’t well disclosed in the article – can’t we just have a little heart about someone fighting for a cause? Do we have to slaughter people over details that they might not have had control over? Look I guarantee that 99% of you out there don’t give a toss about how hard it can be to be deaf or blind or whatever. I don’t know Robyn at all. But I know my battle and it’s bloody hard even with money and support from family and employers. Captions on Telly are a huge help to me.

    • Robyn Carter

      The association with the cause was published – but has been chosen to overlook. Deaf Aotearoa support my work with the Captioning Working Group. It was mentioned in the article I was on the Board of Deaf Aotearoa. There is no conflict of interest at all. But thank you for your support.

    • tevra

      I’m only deaf in one ear and hard of hearing in the other so any time there is captioning it is a God send. With Rugby or AFL I don’t want captioning but for cricket it would be nice to keep track of all the player names.

      • Robyn Carter

        Tevra coe on over and join the campaign – search for captionitnz on facebook ;)

  • JJJJ

    Good on you Robyn for bringing this issue to the public eye. I too was affected by the earthquake – the second one, to the extent I was evacuated from work and rushed home. I found it extremely difficult to find any information on what people should be doing. There were no live captions at the time i was watching the news on TV, and someone in Auckland had to relay the information to me via facebook. I was extremely frustrated by that as I didn’t want to rely on another person to give me the information

    • JJJJ

      and its easy to say that information is available online. Not the information I wanted – a lot of the info online was mainly focused on Seddon people, not those affected by the earthquake that did not live in Seddon. Besides which, often when a website is under huge demand, it can crash, so its not always a good idea to rely on the internet.

      • Robyn Carter

        Or in Wellington – remember at the time the Media focussed on Wellington.

        • tevra

          they often ignore the third world (South Island)

  • tevra

    however it appears that Robyn wasn’t affected so much as she either read or was told about the effects of this earthquake and then made an issue of what could have happened to her this time and possibly did on another occasion. It would have been easier to have told the entire truth since there are people who read her blog and would know where she was when this occurred.

    • Robyn Carter

      Actually Tevra – I told the truth. I was at home when both earthquakes hit – both 21 July and 16 August. The 21 July one happened at 5.09pm – I was at the lake early that morning but home by lunchtime. The 16 august one was bigger than the 21st . I was trying to get the information off the TV but it wasn’t captioned. I’m not sure why people are trying to make me out a liar, or to discredit me when it really was a scary thing to go through, and I wouldn’t wish it on anyone. My information and experience was first hand.

      Yes it affected me – I shook for hours afterwards. Why people are trivialising it I don’t know – but if it makes them feel better – then go for it.

      In this case – it is this blog that has it completely wrong. Cameron Slater didn’t ask me any questions – he just made up his mind, added 2+2 and somehow got 9. Heck – he didn’t even research the fact that there were TWO earthquakes 3 weeks apart.

      Why he is even attacking me I don’t know. I’m not important. I’m not a politician, I’m not asking for money. I’m just trying to get captioning on our television screens.

      Yet people, who don’t even know me, are very quick to make judgements and decide that Slater is right, without even hearing my side of the story.

      It’s nothing short of cyber bullying – and no wonder Charlotte Dawson committed suicide. At least this for me will die down, but she had it all the time.

      I can’t for the life of me understand why people are so nasty.
      .

      • tevra

        I apologize, Robyn, it was from the reading of your blog on that day that this misconception arose and that still shouldn’t take anything away from the cause nor should it be a reason for rude behavior.

  • Michele Linder

    I’m always surprised at the nastiness of people, but that’s okay because I don’t want to come to expect that the kind of nastiness I’ve seen on this blog and within its comments section is the norm. It isn’t.

    The author and commenters who follow this blog seem to think a person with a disability should only have a “public” voice if they look the part or are as destitute as the picture they’ve painted in their mind of someone who is differently abled.

    The fact is, the author and readers of this blog have made an assumption that Robyn Carter lives relatively comfortably, and that disqualifies her as someone who might be frightened during a disaster when access to news isn’t immediately available to her. Unless you are deaf yourself, you cannot understand what that feels like.

    Disability is something that can happen to anyone in an instant, and I will guarantee you that if you woke up tomorrow not able to hear you would want accommodations in place so that you could remain as independent and informed as if you were hearing. Not because the world owes you anything, but because it makes sense in the broader picture, and because it’s the right thing to do. ~~Michele

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