Bugger it… agreeing with Winston… again

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NZ First leader Winston Peters says a move to set up a new ethnicity-based political party for Asian and Indian immigrants is a “an extraordinary demand” which will harm New Zealand.

The People’s Party has been set up and acting leader Rohan Nauhria told RNZ it would campaign on issues such as crime and was aiming to get into Parliament by focusing on the Indian and other Asian communities.

The announcement of the People’s Party got a frosty reception from NZ First leader Winston Peters who said race-based parties were bad news.

“No country is going to progress if we have political parties spending time accentuating their differences. For people to come into New Zealand and say we’re going to start an ethnic-based party is an extraordinary demand to make.”

Prime Minister John Key said he was not surprised the party had emerged given the recent focus on migration.

“It’s not just Winston Peters with an anti-migrant message, it’s also been people like Labour. So you’re always going to get people wanting to make sure their voice is heard the other way.”

Key doubted it would get into Parliament, based on the history of similar one-issue parties and its lack of a well-known leader.

He said it was important for ethnic communities to be represented, but they were better served by the major parties selecting candidates from those communities rather than forming their own party. “I think that’s a far more effective and likely to be successful.”

Peters said ethnic groups were already well represented in Parliament and there was no need for a separate party.

There is no place in NZ politics for race based party.   We already have our quota.

But more importantly, it is a total waste of time and energy.  Much better to get a major party interested in your needs.  Getting 0.2% of the vote after spending hundreds of thousands of dollars will get you nowhere.

 

– NZ Herald

  • Metricman

    Hmmmm, just wait for the Islamic democratic socialist workers party to emerge. Short moustaches and sloping comb-overs will be all the rage.

    • johcar

      “Islamic” AND “democratic” – now that would be a novelty!

      • Nermal

        Any political party that includes the word “democratic” usually isn’t. Similarly the words: people’s, workers, and labour.

  • Seriously?

    Most minor parties aim at a section of the public. Winston the old and the stupid. The Greens the deluded and self-righteous. The Maori Party lives to its name. Mana the poor, Maori, and potential German deportees. In the recent past there were others such as the Christian Heritage Party.

    I don’t like the fact the new party is race based. But they are not alone in the way they are doing things.

    Winston is throwing stones inside a glasshouse.

    • Wheninrome

      “Old and stupid” so who represents the “young and wet behind the ears”. Just curious.

      • Seriously?

        For a bit it was the internet party. You might say the Greens do to a degree. But mostly no one does as there is little point – you cannot get them to vote anyway.

        • Wheninrome

          Fair enough, but we need to reclassify the “old and stupid”. How old is old. Cause National and labour have a fair number of super annuitants in their ranks.

          • Seriously?

            Old = anything over 67 years 3 months and 5 days.

            Stupid = anyone who expects that Winston will deliver his promises. Perhaps I could have used naive or irrational.

            I’d be interested to actually see a breakdown of voting patterns by age group. I’m sure that data is out there somewhere (and I expect the political parties analyse such things).

          • Wheninrome

            I shall have to tell my aged 97 mother she falls into the “stupid” category based on the above. However she doesn’t vote for Winston, never has and I doubt never will – should make it to next year’s election, always votes national and understands the issues probably better that a lot of voters out there.
            Or do you have to be both over 67 and a Winnie voter. What about the “young” Winnie voter I suppose they are just half stupid.

          • Seriously?

            You need to be both.

            The young Winnie voter is probably stoned.

  • Graeme

    Don’t we have one already ?

  • shykiwibloke

    This tactic has only just surfaced. Wait until we have parliament crippled with ‘cultural’ arguments from well financed minority agendas. We have Maori seats so why not seats for any other minority > 10% of population? Or so the dangerous argument will go.
    Talk about using our flavour of democracy against us!
    Talk about a perfect example of trouble when good men do nothing!

  • Cadwallader

    This self-condemned sectional party will follow the identical track of other limited focus parties…pant, pant, sweat, sweat, demand, demand, scandal, scandal…fizzle with about .000001% of the vote.

  • rangitoto

    Winston is talking nonsense. People are free to set set up political parties on single issues if they so desire. The electorate will decide.

    • Brian Dingwall

      New party creation is an absolutely logical outcome of implementiing the apallingly divisive MMP system…..it incentivises the emergence of factional groups all trying to reach the magic 5% and their share of the pork.

      And incentivises existing parties to preemptively offer pork to those factions to reduce the risk of new party entry to the game.

      We can foresee the emergence of another new party once the Islamic immigrant numbers reach the magic 5% as well.

      • Mick Ie

        You only have to look to England and see the emergence of this.
        Leicester is just one example. What was once originally a white, working class city did not achieve a majority when they voted to exit the EU.
        Largely, this because the immigrant population is now higher and they wanted to stay in.
        It is has taken the 30-40yrs for this change in population numbers but compared to 1400 years, it’s a mere ripple in time.
        Immigrants are already heavily influencing local government over there and they are working their way up into National Politics. This is where they will gain control and begin to implement their frightening agenda.

        • Observer

          Can’t say Enoch Powell didn’t warn them :-)

    • goodwitheu

      If these people have the right to vote and they feel like they are not getting treated seriously (dairy robberies/crime & punishment) where is the problem?

  • spanishbride
  • Wheninrome

    It might not get large % of the vote, but what if in a particular area it won a seat in an electorate, now possibly if certain areas that could help National.

    • XCIA

      Mt Roskil would be the one they would probably go for.

  • XCIA

    That’s two new party’s within the space of a week that could potentially cut Winston’s lunch – no wonder he’s miffed.

  • Observer

    This reminds me of the comments by the late Singaporean leader Lee Kuan Yew on how people in multicultural societies tend to vote for their own:

    “Mr. Lee: Why should I be against democracy? The British came here, never gave me democracy, except when they were about to leave. But I cannot run my system based on their rules. I have to amend it to fit my people’s position. In multiracial societies, you don’t vote in accordance with your economic interests and social interests, you vote in accordance with race and religion. Supposing I’d run their system here, Malays would vote for Muslims, Indians would vote for Indians, Chinese would vote for Chinese. I would have a constant clash in my Parliament which cannot be resolved because the Chinese majority would always overrule them. So I found a formula that changes that…”

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/spiegel-interview-with-singapore-s-lee-kuan-yew-it-s-stupid-to-be-afraid-a-369128.html

  • Luke Lucas

    Shut up Winnie, this is democracy in action. Build a bridge….

  • lyall

    I can understand their reasons, In India and the parts of Asia i have visited the attitude toward ‘petty crime’ is not so petty. I fear a lot are sick of the weak response from our police when they become victims of some of our native populations rather loose views on property law!

  • oldmanNZ

    As a asian with indian friends,
    We are constantly being left behind, people robbing dairies and maori party does nothing.

    We buy a house and labiur make it like we shouldn’t, yet other people buy house and no noise.

    We form a little community and people start calling it Chinatown,
    Maori form a community and no noise.

    Its no wonder people pary has come about.

  • MyHovercraftIsFullOfEels

    Seems harmless. It is not.

    This will become a grievance organisation whose message of victimhood is inimical to the values of self-reliance our society depends on.

    To accommodate it is to encourage it.

  • Doug

    It will be interesting to see how this goes… This could be a way for labour to gain these votes by proxy if it is a left leaning party, it means they don’t have to apologise racial blunders it has committed. Or if course they could just be trying to reduce the National vote by hardworking immigrants. This is possibly a little too subtle for them currently.
    It could be a way to slip a pro Muslim party in, many south east Asian countries are Muslim, but without seeing the members we wouldn’t know until we see policies.
    Or it could just be an old fashioned party based upon racial lines, aiming to make certain politicians mind their manners when talking about them.
    Whatever they end up, it will be interesting see, although with some of the possibilities, it may not be interesting to experience.

  • Mark

    You know there’s a problem with out immigration levels when immigrants feel they need to start there own party. Not only that, one of their policies is to increase immigration!?

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