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  • Nechtan

    Today in Rock History:

    Born today in 1945 Van Morrison (George Ivan Morrison) in Belfast.

    Born today in 1945 Bob Welch, singer, songwriter and guitarist with Fleetwood Mac in the early 70s and solo.

    Born today in 1948 guitarist Rudolf Schenker founding member of the Scorpions.

    Released today in the US in 1969, “Street Fighting Man” by The Rolling Stones. Many US radio stations refused to play it due to the “subversive” lyrics.

    Today in 1973 The Rolling Stones released “Goat’s Head Soup”

    Today in 1976 George Harrison was found guilty of subconscious plagiarism of the song “He’s So Fine” in writing his hit, “My Sweet Lord”. He would pay the copyright holder, Bright Tunes, $587,000 in damages.

    Today in 1985 just over 20 years after it originally topped the UK charts for Sonny And Cher, “I Got You Babe” went to number 1 for UB40 and Chrissie Hynde.

    Today in 1985 “’Brothers In Arms” by Dire Straits went to number 1 on the US album charts.

    Today in 1991 Metallica went to number 1 on the US album chart with “Metallica”.

    Died today in 2004 Carl Wayne (Colin David Tooley) singer with The Move from cancer aged 61.

  • Carl

    I know I do. (pic)

    • Wayne Hodge

      I know the feeling, was in Pak n Save today and had to deal with myriad examples of people blocking aisles, chatting and holding up people without cause. Absolutely despicable, should be banned.

    • I’d be off my trolley

      • XCIA

        Take on of these with you and watch them jump out of the way;-)

      • Nige.

        Youd never cart me around a shopping mall.

  • George

    International incident averted by courageous undercover swat team: Two seals from the elite crack bar and beyond division make a twelve loafer advance to reclaim loafer level three territory. The bloodless raid took place under cover of darkness. Eye witnesses claim to have witnessed the laying of towels at strategic points to confuse the enemy. She also claims to have caught a close look at the seals, one was very tall and good looking, the other neither. The raid was so successful the enemy didn’t turn up to challenge. And at 7.30am the two brave seals were forced to retrieve twelve towels after rumours spread that there was a new team of sun loafer hogs in town, one of them tall and good looking, the other neither.

    True story, well most of it. The three women did not make an appearance. They could have seen the towels from their balconies and decided to avoid the humiliation or they may have moved on. They haven’t been spotted today. A bit of an anti climax really and the irony is most of the sun loafers that were considered strategically at risk were empty most of the day. It will be interesting to see if they make an appearance tomorrow morning.

    Eight more family members and guests arrive today from NZ so will be meeting up this evening for a bit of a get together. Most of them are a lot younger than I, so the pace of holiday celebrations, may be a little more than this crack seal can handle. I just do the bad stuff.

    • Platinum Fox

      I’d suggest repeating the exercise tonight to ensure that if the three antagonists are still around the message is abundantly clear.

    • Wayne Hodge

      Has Bali become a favourite of Germans?

      • Roland

        Always has been, the first beach between the airport and Kuta is called ‘German Beach’, next is Legion and then Seminyak.

  • LabTested

    I’m just back from a short 2000km road trip with a motorbike club I hang out with. We got as far a Vilnius, the capital of Lithuania. It’s nothing exceptional as far as European cities go. The trip was just an excuse to go somewhere far away & have a 4 day party.

    A great group of people. There was even a smoking hot lesbian along for the first time. I was hoping things would get exciting, but despite my helpful suggestions the GF said she wasn’t in the mood, and even if she was I would not be invited. Still I can live in hope for the next trip.

    The group is part of HOG (Harley Owners Group). An international organisation whose stereotypical member is a middle aged businessman, who just likes to ride Harley Davidson motorbikes. Due to this make up HOG is sometimes called by the nickname – Hell’s Accountants.

    Another nickname I learnt recently was ‘Back Pack’. This is a derogatory term used only by women bikers about other women who don’t ride their own bike. As in the sentence ‘She doesn’t have her own bike, she is just a Back Pack’ – Women can be soooo Catty about other women.

    Most people in the group have a nickname. However it can sometimes take a while to acquire one, but when given it sticks. A guy in our group was christened ‘Diesel’ over the weekend.

    Now if you are a motor biker & have the nickname ‘Diesel’ it could be because (A) you are a staunch stand-up bloke who is always pulling his weight even in the hard times or (B) you accidentally put 12 liters of diesel into your Harley at the first fuel stop of a 5 day trip.

    Do you have a nickname? Is it complementary?

    • ex-JAFA

      I used to be known to a few people as Spongy Pud. I don’t think it was meant as a compliment.

      • cows4me

        I do. Wasn’t meant to be at the time but you hear it quite often these days.

    • JEL51

      Having the world’s most common first name for girls for the time, like Jude, I have always had my maiden name which is world’s least common surname, used as a nickname by my longest friends. It is instantly recognizable when thrown my direction, so never mistaken identification.

    • Nige.

      I was known as loo-bee at boarding school.

      As an adult I had one customer constantly refer to me as ‘pugs’.

      My favorite is “Nasty”. No one calls me it anymore though.

    • Brewtique

      We drove a car to Vilnius, were there 5 weeks ago. Their KGB museum was a very sobering experience. And was amazed to walk past a tattoo shop with a big advert. on their door featuring a Maori scribble face. Really a most interesting city to explore.

  • Nige.

    I.Sherman answered last nights question with:

    “the local park”

    Do you have memories of your local park from when you were growing up?

    • Isherman

      Don’t need memories, one of my local childhood parks, being Massey park in Mangere East has been been in the news for all the wrong reasons lately with the brawl across the road at the KFC, by a bunch of wannabee gangster types.

      • nellie

        I do remember in the late 70’s a PI bloke at the takeaway in that block (Uncles?) making eye contact (no words spoken) with a couple of Maori blokes who pulled up. Bad mistake as he ended up, after fleeing towards Gubays, being thrown through the KFC window. So it’s not changed too much, just more of them now maybe?

        • dumbshit

          Close to 50 years ago, walked into Glen Innes hotel. Prewarned by host, do not look sideways! Happily made it out intact!

        • Isherman

          Yeah it was still an Uncles joint when I lived around the corner in Royton ave off Yates road. Like anywhere it had a number of troublemakers, and even the occasional school related biffo, but nothing like it is now. I never felt unsafe there, even walking around in the evening, the only time one PI chap tried it on, he got dealt to well and proper and that was the worst of it.

          • nellie

            Yeah I know what you mean. You learned the environment and adapted. I used to deliver the Courier, Auckland Star, milk and even the mail all over Mangere East. Lived just off Massey Rd until got married on 84.

          • Isherman

            “Gubays”, man, there’s something I haven’t heard in a lot of years.

          • johcar

            Likewise “The Auckland Star”!!

          • Isherman

            I was recently re-aquainted with the Star, searching micro-film copies of them at the Auckland Library. my takeaway is that they were better back then than what you are served up as a newspaper now, that’s for sure.

          • johcar

            In those days, journalism was still a thing….

    • Carl

      Yes. Concrete under the swings, roundabout, big slide that you had to climb up rocks to go down and the slide was steel so on a hot day sun it used to burn you on the way down. Kids are missing out now days.

      • KatB

        Wooden slides, they were the best. Nice and fast. Some genius then decided that the wooden slides were covered by or replaced with stainless. You’re right, too hot on a summer’s day and sticky with no go in them any other time.

        • Nige.

          We had a disused jet airplane mounted in Oliver park for everyone to enjoy.

          • Nige.

            Holy crap. And here it is. pic

          • Disinfectant

            Looks like the one that used to sit outside near to the Cave pub in South Canterbury.

            It is now partially restored and on display at Wigram.

          • KatB

            We had an old army tank at one of our parks. It was eventually removed. Not sure why. Kowhai Park in Wanganui has always been a favourite to us as kids and now to our kids. Lots of play equipment in the shape of Nursery rhymes, quaint and different to what you see these days.

          • Isherman

            All kids playgrounds should have a tank and/or aeroplane in them…just sayin.

          • Roland

            My uncle had 7 acres of old aircraft in the 60’s, every kid from miles around used to jmp the fence and play in them. He gave one to the milkman at New Brighton t the same effect

    • Nope. We played on the streets.

    • Nige.

      I went to the park to give my friend my slug gun. We put it in the bushes because we were doing other stuff that the gun didn’t need to be involved with.

      Well…a couple of unknown kids came along and started nothing off at us. We didn’t know why. We just ignored them. Next thing the biggest boy pulled out a Shanghai and started firing at us.

      Whilst under fire, David and I made for the bush where the slug gun was hidden.

      A fast change of underwear was likely required for the “Big” boy when he saw it. Needless to say he didn’t hang around.

      • Mark

        LOL we used to cast lead slugs for our Shanghai’s they might have given you pause they were about the size of a 9mm projectile.

        • Aucky

          Lead shot was awesome. Our shanghais fair decimated the ceramic insulators that P&T used on power poles.

        • Isherman

          Even the commercial Daisy lead shot at 7.97mm (.38 cal) is pretty effective. I’ll never part with my Powerline folding slingshot – mucking around with them never gets old.

      • XCIA

        This is one of my favourite scenes from Trainspotting, filmed in the Queens Park…….

    • Jude

      We played on the street and backyards. We had neighbours across the road from us who had kids around our age. Had great fun riding their trike as we did not have them.
      Also spent a heap of time catching grasshoppers and caterpillars!

      • Dave

        Yup, pretty much the same as me, pre internet, mobile phones, “apps”, gaming and xbox’s and all that couch stuff. Hardly a chubby kid about.

    • cows4me

      No local park but thousands of acres to play around on so I guess that’s as good as any park.

      • Nige.

        See saw:

        “Has anyone seen the cows?”

        “I saw them on the other side of the valley”

    • XCIA

      Oor hoose in Edinburgh backed on to the Queens Park. As soon as I was home from school, it was into the park with my pals for footie, exploring, netting taddies and chasing girls.

      • Nige.

        Um…. Irresponsible thuggery, animal abuse and sexual harassment.

        • Mark

          Yeah back then we were just called Immigrants thou not Refugees…

    • RightyTighty LeftyLoosey

      I grew up in The Netherlands until early teens and was lucky to play in WWII bunkers in the small forest next to our village.

    • Spiker

      Lots of fun in the local park including carrying in packs and carrying out deer, the smaller ones anyway. Mum and dad did a bit of meat hunting to supplement their income. Us kids were expected to do our bit as well. Good times.

    • EveryWhichWayButLeft

      My fondest memory of a park is the one I used to walk through every day on the way to primary school… One morning it was all blocked off by a police cordon – a shot out cop car and a paddy wagon on it’s side (and burnt out IIRC).

      They has stopped a drink driver outside a local mob house/HQ, who promptly got out their guns and started shooting! The joys of growing up in Gate Pa/Greerton.

    • STAG

      National Park? Best thing about the Naki is Mt Egmont, Climbing, Skiing, tramping.

  • Nige.

    Pauline is busy giving other MPs in Australia an education about their own local laws and the provisions/exceptions within to facilitate Sharia law;

    “In Victoria if you have a sexual relationship with an under age person who you believe is your (spouse) then it is not illegal”.

    If it is true it is sad that it has gotten this far already.

    http://www.news.com.au/national/politics/senators-clash-ahead-of-sitting-as-pauline-hansons-declares-war-on-muslim-polygamists/news-story/8d32d3283ad51f7e6be0ace01a2121d5

    • ex-JAFA

      “[W]ho you believe is your spouse”?! So any nutjob whacked out of his gourd can molest some kiddy and use the excuse that they were hallucinating that they were married.

  • Brian Dingwall

    For any other Yes, Minister fans; I’m slow to catch up with the death of coathor Sir Antony Jay. Obit here http://www.telegraph.co.uk/obituaries/2016/08/23/sir-antony-jay-co-author-of-yes-minister–obituary/
    is well worth a read, explaining that the serious message of this brilliant show was to introduce the public to public choice theory. Seems too that there were some sequels and remakes that we have not seen here.

    • Mags

      Enjoyed reading that.

  • XCIA

    In part. “Don’t think the media are brainwashing you? Think again. Watch how easy you mind can be trained by those that want to control you.
    https://www.facebook.com/rondwyersettingtherecordstraight/videos/987351758059505/

  • Motherhood is GREAT!!! (pic)

    • Sally

      She is looking dog tired.

    • Huia

      Please tell me she already has a home and is not demanding a new one from the Government, I guess she is already on a benefit but hopefully not living in her car or a garage somewhere in Auckland.

  • Isherman

    Speaking of Mangere East, I see dear old Roger Fowler has taken a moment out from his anti Israeli campaigning in its various forms, to inform us that the real reason for the students brawling at the KFC was because they were bored. The fact that they are all imitating LA gangsta culture apparently has nothing to do with it, it’s just boredom. As it turns out he is also the chair of the Mangere East Community centre over the road, and is hinting that more money from the council would help, so he can entertain these ratbags. Well, sorry Roger – I lived there, when there was less than there is there now, and I was never so ‘bored’, that getting into trouble on the streets was the only other alternative. Nice to know he’s as good at making excuses for local ratbags as he is for Palestinian terrorists.

    • Pluto

      Clearly there is a boredom crisis and John Key is to blame

  • (pic)

    • Mark

      Probably worth it,once!

  • Wasapilot

    A reminder for those of you playing in the WO footy picking competition to get your picks in. Sally, Jude, please take note 😀

    • Jude

      Will do that now cheers!

    • Sally

      Done. I am struggling to get into this.

  • Bird Lives Matter (pic)

    • Jude

      Have screen shot that for my daughter!! We have experienced a very cheeky kookaburra stealing a breakfast croissant once whilecholidaying in Aus😉

    • 1dafool

      I keep seeing an odd rabbit, takes ages to form into a kookaburra.

      • Nige.

        Ha true. With a wedge cut out of his head.

        • 1dafool

          So the ducks won(pic)

  • cows4me

    Just for the NZ media.

  • twittertit

    I see that despite the high profile nature of the Westpac Branch closures, the protests, the union involvement and the media hype, ASB have managed to quietly shut a branch in Mt Eden Village, Auckland.

    • Mark

      Westpac shut K’rd over a year ago, ASB shut K’rd just a few months back,not a murmur.

    • What’s a bank branch? I haven’t been in one for years

  • Blueburd

    I found this interesting today. John Kerry openly asking the media to “not” report terrorist attacks. head in the sand stuff. Nothing to see here move along.

    • MaryLou

      Another good interview cut off too early, like Nige’s one last night! What time are these interviews usually on? Might have to start watching a bit of Fox TV

      • JEL51

        http://www.foxnews.com/ you will find latest headlines, then move to ‘video’ for more lengthy interviews.

    • JEL51

      Charles usually calls it as it is, he certainly nails it here. Kerry is openly taking the first ‘plausible’ steps to control communications which obviously has been manipulated for quite some time.

  • sandalwood789

    So Labour now wants to tax “sugary drinks”. Yet another in the endless line of “bumper-sticker policies”.

    Not many things amaze me anymore, but Labour’s continuing inability to learn and to *really* critically look at itself does amaze me. How on earth such a group of muppets can claim to have a good education policy when they themselves are incapable of learning is beyond me. Maybe they’re actually alien and there is some weird kind of alien logic going on here.

    • Skydog

      Agree. The tax is going to have the strongest financial effect on those least likely to afford healthy drinks and those who would most likely vote Labour. Not sure this is a sensible move to keep your constituents happy. Maybe an analogy would be for the National government to raise business tax….duh!

  • D.Dave

    Did anyone else hear the bimbo, on air with Willie Jackson, demanding to know what was discussed by Todd McLay, Steven Adams and Willie Apiata, at a private meal they had in Queenstown. She muttered about having the RIGHT TO KNOW, because Todd was name dropping via Facebook. Then referred to him having worked for a Tobacco company to boot. Who, in their right mind, pays this piece of trash to put garbage like this on air. She does not understand the word “private”. I choose not to put my private dealings on FB, but some do. It does not mean anyone has to explain their actions, providing they are legal. Maybe, just maybe, these three people enjoy each others company , you are a stupid woman.

    • Nige.

      I think Willie needs a new Co host. Someone with intelligence. Someone who is able to be a yin to his Yan. Someone with some actual real world views. Someone with political insight….. someone who has their wheelie bin back where it should be.

      • D.Dave

        You mean, like “Keplar” Smalley??

        • Nige.

          Imagine what you’d find in HER rubbish bin?

          • D.Dave

            Something attune to MENSA applications, and well worn encyclopedia.

          • Dave

            She is okay, she can always refer to her hard copy of Wikipedia.

      • Dave

        There is one person who I would highly recommend be on Radio, his wit and awareness of current affairs would put him above almost all others, however, he’s currently on a Sabbatical. Second problem is, what would they do with Willie then :)

    • Todd McClay has never worked for a tobacco company. He was a diplomat based in Brussels, shows how stupid she is. Todd Barclay however used to work for a tobacco company it is as relevant as the fact she used to sleep with men.

      • STAG

        Are you back yet?

        • Not quite…but nearly…lurking is what I am doing

          • Time For Accountability

            Lurking is good.
            Lurking with intent is bad.

    • D.Dave

      My error, It was Todd Barclay. His previous employment doesn’t matter one iota.

  • johcar

    Bruce arrived safely in Auckland today, flying in from the Burleigh Lunch Bar in Blenheim.

    I picked him up from where he was on the North Shore and brought him up to the Hibiscus Coast on the back of my bike. He LOVED it: Bruce the Biker! Couldn’t get him off the bike when I got home….

    Popped into Countdown on the way home to see if I could pick up some seal meat, but alas, they were out of stock, so he’ll have to make do with some hoki…

    I suspect he’s been spoiled in Blenheim “taste testing” the pies at the Burleigh…

    He is very much looking forward to his big OE in September….

    • Nige.

      He needs some leather pants.

    • Whangaparaoa eh? He’s nearly home…Especially as there were Orca in Manly today

    • Dan

      If it is not too rude to ask Johcae, but where is the OE taking him?

      • johcar

        Not rude at all, but I’ll keep the exact itinerary a surprise: a couple of European countries and UK / Ireland.

        But unfortunately nothing as adventurous as the trip Labtested has been doing…

  • Blueburd

    This is my favourite youtube video for today. A college professor feels that the college mascot looks to mean and it is affecting the students. I kid you not, she even wrote to the college asking them to change the mascot

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MU67KHlWXBk

    • sandalwood789

      I wonder if this college professor has ever seen *totem poles*. They’re pretty scary too but I’ll bet she wouldn’t say a word against them.

  • sandalwood789

    Funny video here. An interviewer flips Hillary Clinton’s policies 180 degrees to see if Clinton supporters will still support her.
    Surprise, surprise – they do.
    Some of the responses have to be seen to be believed……

  • pisces8284

    Does anyone else have trouble logging into Stuff to make a comment?
    I know, I know. Slap

    • Disinfectant

      Yes.

      I have been on to them a number of times. They stop trying to sort it out by ignoring you. All they offer is to download their App. As if though that will fix it!

      Their problems came about when they changed to a two column mobile phone website.

      But I sometimes wonder whether they have banned me deliberately due to my right wing views.

      I have given up.

      • pisces8284

        Yep, by the time I have tried numerous times to comment, even though I appear to be logged in, the urge to comment has passed thankfully

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  • D.Dave

    Apple apparently pay a homeopathic amount (0.08%)of tax in Ireland. Given the Left’s obsession with regard to spending other peoples money, I would have thought the outrage would be deafening. But, it is Apple, the gadget maker to a generation. Darling of techno freaks; they can do no wrong. Surely if Apple won’t contribute their fair share, a world wide boycott will ensue, and they will be wiped off the map. Yeah….nahh

    • 1dafool

      Every news item I’ve seen on it referred to the figure paid against their profit. I keep thinking why does Apple pay any tax on profit, must have the worst accountants in Ireland.

    • Dan

      The tool of choice for a lot of journos is an i-something. If apple folds, then they would need to learn to use MS Windows and apps. That would represent the end of humanity for most.

  • Wheninrome

    Just listened to an incredibly inspirational interview with Sara Kahn, what a powerful Muslim woman, her faith is incredibly important to her, but she does not want it highjacked by the likes of ISIS. So much worth listening to.

  • Shalice

    I’m sorry if someone already mentioned this but I really can’t believe how far the insanity has gone now – this is an article about the funeral of the backpacker stabbed in Australia – a verse from the Koran is to be included in the funeral service.
    Makes me feel sick.
    “According to Mia’s mother, Rosie Ayliffe, the reading from the Koran has been included in the funeral service as a way to distance her daughter’s murder from the suggestion that her daughter’s death was terror-related. Her daughter’s funeral will draw on a range of religions to create a multi-faith funeral reminiscent of Mia’s life, she said.”
    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/08/30/passage-koran-read-funeral-backpacker-killed-man-shouting-allah-hu-akbar/

  • Greg M

    Must be cat video time. “Cat hates stuffed tiger”:

  • XCIA

    This is what you call getting your priorities right……..

    • Kopua Cowboy

      gropener.com

    • johcar

      Just need something similar to do wine bottles. Corks AND screw tops….

    • Wasapilot

      Christmas pressies sorted for brothers in law, just ordered 3. Love it.

  • Bombastic

    Just testing I’m not banned. A featured comment having oblique fun with Labour became a deleted comment, but I’m not usually one for paranoia.

  • Wheninrome

    Watching Harrys Law from last night very funny comment . “I am white, rich and republican so therefore I can legally mistake you for a quail and shoot you.” Everything totally un PC but did hit me on the funny bone because it was so totally unPCIshness (is that a word).

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