They really mean ‘we are totally pissed off the British people voted the wrong way’

When Darren Hughes absconded overseas to avoid continued questions over his behaviour in his landlady’s house he hooked up with the Electoral Reform Society in the UK. This is the crowd who were pushing and failed for proportional representation in the UK and also big supporters of opposing Brexit.

They have their knickers in a bunch over the Brexit referendum and like all good left-wing whingers they are blaming everyone including the voters for the result.

The EU referendum campaign was dogged by “glaring democratic deficiencies” with voters turned off by big name politicians and negative campaigning, a report says.

The Electoral Reform Society attacked both sides of the referendum campaign, saying people felt “ill-informed” by the “dire” debate.

The society said the impact of political leaders had been “minimal”.

It called for a “root and branch” review of the way referendums are run.

Recommendations made by the society in its report include having a public body intervene when “misleading” claims are made by campaigns, reviewing broadcasters’ role and publishing a “rule book” to govern conduct by campaigns.  

They also propose that future referendums have a guaranteed six month official campaign, and citizenship education be extended in schools with the voting age reduced to 16.

The UK voted to leave the EU on 23 June by 51.9% to 48.1%.

The then prime minister David Cameron and the government backed a Remain vote, while the Leave campaign was fronted by ex-mayor of London Boris Johnson, who is now foreign secretary.

The Electoral Reform Society, which campaigns for “democratic reform”, said its polling showed Mr Cameron and other political “big beasts” had failed to convince the public.

When asked about eight prominent politicians, most people said they had had no effect on the way they voted.

The only high-profile figures who, according to the poll, persuaded more voters of their position than drove them to vote the other way were Boris Johnson, Nigel Farage and US presidential candidate Donald Trump, who backed Brexit.

“Above all, what these numbers tell us is that people had by and large lost faith in established political figures as opinion-leaders – except where those figures might be said to be kicking against the establishment,” the society said.

Oh dear, l;looking for excuses for their loss.

The society’s chief executive Katie Ghose said: “This report shows without a shadow of a doubt just how dire the EU referendum debate really was.

“There were glaring democratic deficiencies in the run-up to the vote, with the public feeling totally ill-informed. Both sides were viewed as highly negative by voters, while the top-down, personality-based nature of the debate failed to address major policies and issues, leaving the public in the dark.”

On the plus side, the society said it had heard “time and again” from people who felt the referendum was the first time their vote “had truly counted”.

But it said there were “serious questions” to be asked about the place of referendums in politics, including how they sit alongside the parliamentary system and how to ensure a “high quality” debate.

Ms Ghose added: “Now that the dust is starting to settle after the EU referendum, we need a complete rethink about the role of referendums in the UK. They are becoming more common, but the piecemeal nature of the how, when and why they’re done means we could simply end up jumping from referendum to referendum at the whim of politicians.”

What they are really saying is the refrain of the left-wing the world over: ‘we are totally pissed off the British people voted the wrong way’.

Too bad…that’s democracy sometimes…live with it.

 

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  • JLS

    And thank God they voted that way. Well done Nigel and Boris, bad luck muppet boy.

  • dumbshit

    What’s the bet, the “lefties” want to write the “rule book” on referendum criteria!

  • Edward M Blake

    It scares me, listening to various U.K commentators ( ignorant socialist pricks) suggesting that article 50 will never be invoked. Their reasoning is that Britain will negotiate restrictions in immigration thus keeping the racist xenophobes who voted for Brexit happy.
    Unfortunately this completely misses the point of what the brexit vote was all about and is insulting to those who voted to exit.
    The way I see it is that that once upon a time politicians where accountable to the voters and sort of acted accordingly. These days it seems that between lobbyist’s and future career hopes democracy is a nuisance that is beneath them.
    The brexit vote was a message from the people to the politicians to get their useless faces out of the trough and pick up a shovel and do a real days work.
    Because GREAT Britain!

  • Treaclebeak

    The Brexit vote was not a referendum, it’s actually a plebiscite, so it’s not legally binding. The U.K. will probably never leave the EU, the country’s political elites will never allow it, they don’t care which way the plebs vote.

    • Nige.

      A quick Google led me to believe that it was quite the opposite. In fact from all examples I saw when I entered “plebiscite Brexit” it highlighted why politicians should fear them.

      If you have any further reading to clarify your position I would be semi interested.

      • Treaclebeak

        Nige,

        Basically Britain has nowhere to go outside of the EU, it’s as simple as that. After all the huffing and puffing, nothing much will change, some face-saving compromise will be adopted, similar to the quasi membership of Norway or Switzerland. Remember the vote is NOT a legally binding referendum and in the UK, parliament is supreme, there’s no compulsion for the government to obey the results of the Brexit vote. There might even be another vote on Brexit.

        Btw, I don’t care whether or not the UK stays in, or leaves the EU, my point is that the chances are very remote that it will leave. Most commentators, particularly the right wing fantasists, can’t tell the difference between a referendum and a plebiscite. Because of that fact, their opinions are of no value whatsoever. They don’t understand that Brexit is not inevitable. Basically only time will tell, In about 5 years we’ll probably know for sure.

        • What a silly comment…no where to go? Why do they have to go anywhere? They are a massive economy with money, they don’t have to go anywhere, people will come to them…like us.

          • Treaclebeak

            The U.K. Has a ‘massive economy’ because it’s been inside the protectionist EU cocoon for 40 years, they’re still at the beck and call of the EU. Britain’s future really depends on how punitive the Eurocrats will be towards the country, the UK’s political elites understand that very well.
            We should revisit this question a few years in the future, we will see who has the privilege of saying ‘I told you so’.

            ‘Like us’, do you mean NZ? The country has been in economic decline since the 1970s when the UK dumped the Commonwealth, it isn’t a very encouraging example.

        • Old Man, Torbay.

          Britain does not have to go anywhere. it can still trade with the EU even though it will not be a member.
          Britain will be free to trade with anyone it pleases.

        • Nige.

          Didn’t really answer my question, but thanks for trying. I did learn something.

          • Treaclebeak

            Your question can’t be answered at the present time it’s as simple as that.

    • They will leave, because if they don’t the political carnage will be immense.

      • biscuit barrel

        Thanks. Thats the reality. Counting the angels on the pin means nothing.
        I think Britain is done with referendums/plebiscites whatever for a generation now.

  • XCIA

    Every man and his dog was telling so many lies about the Brexit that I’m surprised anyone was able to work it out.

  • Bluemanning

    The people we have mixed with during our UK trip, who admittedly sit on the conservative aisle, overall are amused by the MSM carry on with lefty experts proported to be ‘all knowing’ emphatically stating that the referendum result is a mirage and bad for Britain. As my friend reiterated ‘what does it matter, Teresa has flat out said that brexit means brexit and will be initiated early 2017 and we conservatives believe her’.
    Socialism is bereft of critical individual thinking, and cannot accept that voters overall think for themselves.

  • Superman

    For socialists democracy is OK as long as it goes their way. If they lose a vote it’s not democratic.

  • biscuit barrel

    Things that Britain does that are allready ‘outside EU’

    Currency, they arent part of the Euro zone
    passports, they arent part of the Schengen free travel area.

    As for the ‘single market’
    “Every developed country has access to the single market. The EU has a relatively low external tariff (3-4%)with the exception of certain goods such as agriculture. The inconvenient truth is that non-members of the EU have often exploited the single market far more successfully than we have.”
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/13/not-only-can-britain-can-leave-the-eu-and-have-access-to-the-sin/

    The USA sells more to the EU than the UK does!
    You must read the Telegraph article written by Lamont to see what a sham the ‘free market’ is.

  • M C Chinaman

    So what was ‘ill-informed’, ‘dire’ and ‘negative’ about the debate? These are highly subjective concepts yet their report somehow finds them true ‘without a shadow of doubt’. Case closed.

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