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  • Nechtan

    Today in Rock History:

    Born today in 1946 Billy Preston singer, songwriter, keyboardist and composer he worked with The Beatles (being the only non-Beatles artist to be credited on an album), The Rolling Stones and a great many others as well as a solo artist.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSY8KQAiumQ

    Born today in 1951 Mik Kaminski violin for ELO

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11A8JZ-RDDo

    Born today in 1957 Steve Porcaro Keyboards and songwriter with Toto

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTQbiNvZqaY

    Today in 1972, Rod Stewart went to number 1 on the UK singles chart with “You Wear It Well’.

    • Nechtan

      Sorry about The Beatles track, it worked last night :-(

    • sandalwood789

      “My Sweet Lord” and “Africa” – two of my favourites.

  • Carl

    ….

  • Carl

    A great article in the ODT today about a surprise visit by Sir Willie Apiata and basketballer Steven Adams to Wakatipu high school for a Q & A with the pupils. The stories and advice they gave to the pupils should be put on the walls on every school in the country. The more I see and hear of Steven Adams the more he impresses me with what he has to say. Very humble and down to earth. Well worth a read.
    https://www.odt.co.nz/regions/queenstown/adams-apiata-surprise-pupils

  • Nige.

    Right at uni answered last nights question with:

    “people afraid to travel on public transport, ”

    What is the best or worst mode of transport?

    • Isherman

      There’s flying, then there’s everything else.

    • XCIA

      I used to like travelling on the hydrofoil and the overnight sleeper to Wellington. Boy did I have some fun on the sleeper.

    • Mark

      There’s Motorcycling,then there’s everything else.

    • Carl

      I’ll say it. The worst has to be push bike.

    • Greg M

      Buses would have to be the most repugnant bacteria box ever inflicted by a person with clearly fewer brain cells than the average potted palm on the rest of the human race. Best avoided.

      • Disinfectant

        Thats what my good friend says when captaining British Airways 747.

        She (yes she) says it irritates the hell out of her when cleaners haven’t signed off the cockpit cleaning.

        She gets stuck into it herself before the flight starts.

        • XCIA

          Just as well she didn’t fly for Aeroflot then. A large babushka with a broom and a sweep of the isles is all you got there. ;-)

    • Chris EM

      Would have to be the car for me, as long as it has three pedals, because I love driving. Especially in a 4th generation Legacy.

      • nellie

        I saw this on the weekend, thought it was pretty cool. .

        • MaryLou

          Mmm nice. Had one about 20 years ago and LOVED it. Then they went a bit…. bleurgh. But these are really kinda nice.

        • Chris EM

          The boot could be a bit bigger for carrying the tools… but yeah, thats a proper car.

          • Mark

            Its a Nissan,you only need a Laptop,oh wait those tools,the have folding stocks now you know.

    • Jude

      Would have to be little planes in windy weather! I remember many a white knuckle ride, the worst locally was a trip to Nelson in 1988. That has been topped by a flight to Grand Canyon USA where 70% of the passengers required the ” bags” in 2009 !

      • LabTested

        I must of been on that Grand Canyon flight – or maybe it happens all the time. I definitely filled the bag!

    • Duchess of Pork

      In comparison to the more adventuress members of my sex I find The Backpack to be a beguiling mode of transport offering a natural and exhilarating observational platform. It does require a measure of trust in the Frontpack though.

      • nellie

        I saw a ‘back pack’ on one if those 3 wheeler things recently texting as they got on the motorway on ramp. No enjoying the ride for her.

    • Richard

      Hard to beat a good horse…hey Cows, does Worksafe make you fit rollbars on them these days?

    • JEL51

      Due to dehydration from walking in the humidity of Singapore for hours, I hailed a trishaw as it passed, so the kids & I could get back to the hotel safely.
      I am not sure why, maybe our egalitarian upbringing, but there was nothing enjoyable about asking/subjugating another human being to carry out a task you couldn’t possibly manage yourself. Even though I thought it would contribute towards his meager income, I felt so bad.
      I look forward to using a horse & buggy if that oil crisis hits. Oh yeah, frack-it just stuffed-up that plan.

      • STAG

        I find the guilt you feel about human bondage is directly related to the amount of beer you’ve drunk.

        The start of the night? I feel bad for the poor guy.
        3am coming home from Boat Quay? well can he not peddle a bit faster?

    • STAG

      I once could not believe that some one was paying me to travel internationally regularly.

      That lasted about 6 months. It (or I) got so bad HIND wouldn’t even stand in line with me, apparently I’m grumpy, short tempered, rude and according to customs agents the world over suspected of having traces of explosives on me.

      Gold status? Pants! it just gets you to the back of the next cue faster.

      This year is shaping up to be the first in 23 years were I wont travel internationally. It might be my best yet!!!

  • Isherman

    How many K’s you put on the bike so far this tour?

    • LabTested

      10k+ this summer. It was new in May last year, so this is the 2nd summer and it now has 22K on the clock. One more road trip planned for later this month then it generally gets put to bed once winter sets in. Snow & bikes don’t mix

      • LabTested

        Opps forgot the photo (pic)

  • nellie

    I’m loving my little Harley! Unlike you purely mid-life crisis fine weather riding for coffee on the weekends though.

    • Duchess of Pork

      Oh stop teasing N. What is a “little” Harley. Full description required please. And pics!

      • nellie

        883 Roadster. Picture isn’t the best….

        • LabTested

          an 883 is not a ‘Little Harley’ There is a 750cc Street and a 500cc Street …and my First Harley was an 883. I took it from Sardinia to Finland. Photo doing the shopping with it in Rome (pic)

        • Duchess of Pork

          Choice. Got the leathers?

          • nellie

            Bought the bike as a birthday present from the both of us to me. As it was a birthday the kids chipped in bought me a proper HD leather jacket too. Have got some kevlar jeans, just need some decent footwear now. Loving it.

  • Mark

    If you don’t hear from me again tonight,fear not,I have passed happily into a Food Coma.
    Roast Pork leftovers mixed with Baked Beans,in a Pie!

    • JEL51

      You can’t fool us!! Baked beans just doesn’t work with roast pork. We all know there is heaps of spinach for your haemoglobin and tomato for the prostate health, hiding under that pastry lid ;)

      • Mark

        I’m too bland for that… Yeah ok you got me,they are doing an emergency replenish of the Greens Aisle as we speak.

        • JEL51

          Good on you, that’s such a relief.
          ( Yours sincerely,
          Mother Hen ;)

  • Doc45

    Today I tried to get from Gillies Ave on to the Southern Motorway around 3.30pm. There had been an accident slowing the motorway traffic. The line of cars on Gillies waiting to get on to the motorway stretched back at least two kms. Most cars wanting to get onto the motorway get into the left lane as opposed to those wanting to go on down Gillies to Newmarket – they use the right hand lane.
    What got up my nose was those who pulled out of the left lane, ripped hell for leather along the right lane then barged back into the left lane where it turns up the ramp to the motorway. I mean barged – they were very forceful.
    They might have been rushing to get to the maternity hospital or they may have been the officiating padre at a wedding but most, I am picking, were just ignorant, impatient, rude buggers getting up us slow learner’s nostril.
    Rant over. G/night.

  • XCIA

    Will Malaysia and Indonesia be next? Remembering how it used to be in Iran, Afghanistan and Libya before the mongrels took over and turned them into toilets…..
    https://www.facebook.com/islamawarenessmalaysia/videos/241450752917651/

    • JEL51

      I used to have a few Malay friends that were Columbo Plan students in our flatting days. The Malay girls always took pride in that they wore the highest of heels, shortest of skirts, the red-est of lipsticks…and… the latest of fashions. They were streaks ahead of us NZ girls in the ‘looks’ dept., who were regarded as a decade behind London, back then.
      It seemed in no time at all following the rise & influence of the Great Ayatollah Khomeini, these very same students were seen wearing those ugly black tents so common in parts of Britain at the moment.
      How damned fickle, is fashion……followers not leaders!!

  • Greg M

    Had a blat on last years Indian a while back. A bit of a barge but the 111 cu in engine was an absolute stunner. More grunt than the ladies tennis.
    Have you had a go on the Indian ?

    • LabTested

      Not yet, but the Indian is an impressive looking bike. Certainly they are going to be a head to head competitor to the Harley & I know the local HD dealer who is a bit concerned about Indian’s increased popularity.

      HD have a new engine coming out for next year 114 cu, so 1870cc, that up from 103 cu in this years models. Possibly HD is reacting to the Indian threat. However 103 cu (1690 cc) in my bike gives me all the grunt i need :)

      • Greg M

        I think Indian have changed the firing order, no longer “one after the other” like Hoggley Doggleys, it feels like they’re firing 270 apart, massive difference

      • Mark

        I just enquired about the Electraglide Low with the New Motor,kinda hoping we are not getting any here LOL.

        The Indians are beautiful,very well done indeed & definitely going Head to Head. I think I will rent one on my next trip Stateside so I can get a decent ride.

  • Sally

    All makes sense now, joins the dots. First we had a Mediaworks ex-reporter having a go about Talleys, see http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2016/09/another-nasty-sjw-attack-on-my-food-bag/ . Now we have this on tomorrow.

    • Carl

      Do the unions pay TV networks for this coverage?

      • No, but they have them on speed dial.

    • Nige.

      Ahhhhhhhhhhhh they keep trying but they keep falling short.

    • Of course they are a good corporate citizen. They employ people, pay their PAYE, pay GST, pay company tax and employ thousands.

  • JEL51

    I really enjoy your photos LT. Where is this taken as every ‘rural’ view is so much different from any other, in my eyes ? I was looking out from the top of the Arch de Triumph, when a Pommy woman beside me asked if I too thought the view (of Paris) was beautiful ? I couldn’t reply as even though it was ‘designed/laid out’ like no other city, it was still just another city. We had spent hours on the bullet train traveling from Amsterdam to get there and I am sure I never blinked an eye as I soaked-up the rural expanse. Same when traveling any other country.

    • LabTested

      The photo was taken in Southern Norway. It truly is the most amazing motorbiking country you can imagine. You go from snow covered mountain roads down to fiords in just a few hours. Breath taking (pics)

      • hookerphil

        Thought it was, the buildings and the colour are very distinctive. Loved Norway. Did you go to Bergen, rains about 265 days a year but was great when we went.

        • LabTested

          We were very close to Bergen, but tended to avoid the cities & large towns where ever possible. Because it is such an expensive country we were camping, so really felt the cold at night, but were lucky with the rain (or lack of it). .and yes Norway has some very distinctive buildings, I wonder how often they have to mow the roof (pic)

          • Duchess of Pork

            Some pretty looooong tunnels too.

          • hookerphil

            One is the longest in the world at 24.5 km.

          • Duchess of Pork

            Can remember going through a 22km one. Not at my best in tunnels. Narrowly avoided a disastrous crash resulting in fire and a number of deaths in a tunnel near Genoa once. Our bus was about 5 mins in front. Going through the Lyttelton tunnel after Feb 22 was a bit hair raising as well. It had been checked out by engineers of course but there were some long, large cracks….

        • Duchess of Pork

          Don’t hold back HP, tell it like it is. Thunderstorms!! The Open Heavens Downpours!!. The Cascading Waterfalls!!. Right out of nowhere like baying wolves in the night. And beaten to the shelter of shop doorways by 50 locals who know the warning signs.

      • JEL51

        Ta, Norway is on my bucket list. Hoping it, the bucket or myself, wont fall fowl of rust before I get there. :)

  • Greg M

    Anyone heard from Pete away on his travels, has he phoned it in yet? (pic)

    • Isherman

      You think Pete would let the two of us run riot here?, me neither, we’ll hear from him soon :)

    • Lux

      He has been a bit busy sorting out food .. and now just laxing back with a new friend, wearing his new hat!

      • XCIA

        Are you talking Pete or Bruce or ??

        • Lux

          It’s Wild at heart… Pete Baby !!

          • XCIA

            Didn’t see the picture…….

          • Lux

            All sorted … He had found his digs for the night .. (pic)

    • Not a peep. Not a whisper, not a murmur.

  • Johnno

    So, apparently it’s been a year since the body of the little Syrian boy, Alan Kurdi, was found on a beach in Turkey and didn’t the media have a field day with this story.

    This morning the Herald had an article about it under the heading “A photo that shook the world”. This article was written by Chris Clarke who apparently is the chief executive of World Vision New Zealand. The article is nothing but an emotional excuse to get New Zealanders to part with their money and donate to this corrupt outfit who financially support terrorism.

    Then this evening the whole story is repeated on TV One with the same emotional overtones. However, no mention is made of the fact that the father was a people smuggler who charged people $10,000 and more to get them into Europe. No mention is made of the fact that there was no reason for the kid’s family to seek refuge in Europe since the family had been given asylum in Turkey and were safe.

    However, the father was obviously not happy with the limited assistance in Turkey and became an economic migrant to take advantage of all the benefits and welfare available in Germany.

    And now the father has the temerity to hold the west responsible for his son’s death because of their inaction. How dare he accuse the west of inaction when Europe has taken well over a million refugees. However, the Islamic countries have not taken even one refugee. Where is his criticism of their inaction? The father and his vile Islam ideology are responsible for the boy’s death.

    The media further fail to mention that the photo is not representative of where the boy was found. The boy was found elsewhere on the beach and placed on that location by the media for dramatic effect.

    The media further fail to mention the atrocities currently happening in Syria on the civilian population, including families and little children as the ISIS troops are slowly driven back. Yesterday it was reported about 9 teenagers being executed by chainsaws and today there are reports of ISIS sewing up the mouths of four Mosul residents with metal wire for discussing the success of Iraqi Army in the offensive anti-terrorist operations among themselves.

    http://en.alalam.ir/news/1857066

    Remember this picture:

    • Isherman

      [MOD] Sorry, the pic is outside the rules.

  • Bruno 32

    If it’s OK for Harcourts ,Timaru to withdraw from sponsoring the Winchester Rodeo after getting pressured by Hans krek , I suppose I will have to find another company to manage my rental.

    • Mark

      On that sort of reasoning they surely will be refusing to sell any houses in “Winchester” either

      • Bruno 32

        I guess your right. I will mention that when I cancel the contract.

        • Mark

          Fond memories of many stops at the Winchester Tavern,for a “Feed”.

          • Bruno 32

            Havnt been for a long time but had some great times back in the days of west coast hours. Apparently the accommodation side is doing well .

    • Nige.

      Well maybe if you make you voice known they might have a change of heart. Give them the chance to put back into it. Remember what L.V Martin would say.

  • Keyser Soze
    • Nechtan

      There is stupid and then there is the really stupid.

      • STAG

        Drugs, Asia, Dumb dumb dumb.

    • XCIA

      I doubt if the Aussies will let her back in either, so it will be back to Taupo.

      • JLS

        Hopefully not for a very long time.

    • MaryLou

      “The friend said the group of friends was scared and didn’t know what to do. ”

      Is it just me or is that a line you’d have expected from a bunch of 16 years olds, rather than a group of adult 27 year olds? Seems like a lot of people having trouble growing up nowadays.

  • Richard

    To the young 18 something punk I just met in our local KFC carpark.

    Wearing Muay Thai shorts while trying to intimidate people and their families does not make you a tough guy.

    I don’t know what upset him the most, me knocking him over with an open slap to the face, or his mates seeing him get knocked over with an open slap to the face….walk on home boy.

    • LabTested

      I was ref-ing a High School 1st IV game a few years ago when one player just B** Slapped an opponent. Everyone was just so stunned that there was no retaliation. Red card & a (quiet) laugh from the Ref

    • Nige.

      Tell me more.. were you assaulted and had to defend yourself?

      • Richard

        We were inside ordering and I observed him intimidate a teenage brother and sister I know as they were in the carpark, just trying to be an alpha in front of his mates I’m guessing.

        When miss 8 and I went outside, I told him to knock it off and leave, to which he approached and had the audacity to have a swing.

        I had my Ultimate Quater Pack in my left hand, so it was an overhand right slap to the cheek.

        • MaryLou

          Oh no – did you keep hold of the food? Spill the Coke?

          • Richard

            No, no takeaways were harmed, however, I got back home to find the muppets had’nt put my potato & gravy in the order.

          • Jude

            The potato and gravy is the best bit! 😂

          • Wasapilot

            Is Hooker Phil away do you know Jude?

          • hookerphil

            Not at all

          • Jude

            He commented on this thread. But not sure if he is travelling. Read further on and I am sure he will reply. That Loss to Counties Manakau was a shock ! I think only 1 in our group picked it.

          • hookerphil

            And I actually took Auckland by 13+, thought it was time to get serious.

          • Jude

            Ditto but the margin is staggering😉

          • hookerphil

            Yes, they didn’t deserve that. 10 minutes too long. 99 times a good big guy will beat the good little guy.

          • Jude

            They have some international quality players playing for Auckland . Yes they are huge!

          • Greg M

            No potato and gravy deserves a clip around the ear as well. )

          • Spiker

            Disaster! Nothing to dip the chips into.

        • Nige.

          How did your daughter react?

          • Richard

            She knows the score, we talked in the truck on the way home how it was the best way to diffuse the situation with the least amount of aggression.
            She is quite a proficient combatant herself already and I’ve tuned her on the whens, whys and hows.

          • Nige.

            It’s a shame for them to have to see the ugly truth. But the truth is the truth. My kids would be screaming.

        • peterwn

          The Section 48 force field should protect you OK. By the way a punch does not need to connect for it to be assault..

        • waldopepper

          well, clearly the current “call the teacher” stance on bullies hasnt worked. you have to confront bullies, not appease them. ive always maintained that the way to sort out a bully is a good hard smack on the nose. 90% of the time they fall down like little girls, and start crying. bullies respect you when you do this. i was bullied at school. the 2 bullies i smacked became my best friends afterwards.

    • STAG

      Well not condoning violence, Well done that man! I have a firm believe that a little more “corporal” treatment of some of today’s tuff’s would to them, us and the world good.

  • Johnno

    Re-posting earlier comment without the link. I think it is important to show the media bias.

    So, apparently it’s been a year since the body of the little Syrian boy, Alan Kurdi, was found on a beach in Turkey and didn’t the media have a field day with this story.

    This morning the Herald had an article about this under the heading “A photo that shook the world”. This article was written by Chris Clarke who apparently is the chief executive of World Vision New Zealand. The article is nothing but an emotional excuse to get New Zealanders to part with their money and donate to this corrupt outfit who financially support terrorism.

    Then this evening the whole story is repeated on TV One with the same emotional overtones. However, no mention is made of the fact that the father was a people smuggler who charged people $10,000 and more to get them into Europe. No mention is made of the fact that there was no reason for the kid’s family to seek refuge in Europe since the family had been given asylum in Turkey and were safe.

    However, the father was obviously not happy with the limited assistance in Turkey and became an economic migrant to take full advantage of all the benefits and welfare available in Germany.

    And now the father has the temerity to hold the west responsible for his son’s death because of their inaction. How dare he accuse the west of inaction when Europe has taken well over a million of refugees. However, the Islamic countries have not taken even one refugee. Where is his criticism of their inaction? The father and his vile Islam ideology are responsible for the boy’s death.

    The media further fail to mention that the photo is not representative of where the boy was found. The boy was found elsewhere on the beach and placed on that location for dramatic effect.

    The media further fail to mention the atrocities currently happening in Syria on the civilian population, including families and little children as the ISIS troops are slowly driven back.

    Remember this pic:

    • XCIA

      I saw that too. How the hell our Aussie owned MSM can knowingly promulgate such blatant lies is beyond all reason.

      • Spiker

        When I see stuff like that it makes me wish I had a spare 100k to get Freed over the line.

        • XCIA

          I know how you feel. I wish I had the money to buy at least the Ferald and just close it down.

    • hookerphil

      I can understand why it was deleted but pleased you have resubmitted without the photo. It is good we are all reminded of the correct details of that photo.

  • Greg M

    Well. The ex boss is back in her Yurt so Te Whare is back to normal. It’s been a good and enjoyable week for both of us, but… am about to fat up the stereo and have a big party for one, Cheers.

  • XCIA

    “Dogs understand both words and intonation of human speech.” All I can say is thank god they can’t talk because a hell of a lot of us would be in a power of strife.
    https://www.theguardian.com/science/2016/aug/30/dogs-understand-both-words-and-intonation-of-human-speech

  • Greg M

    Just had the 12″ 45 of this fatting with the amp on 11 and the skateboarders have turned up banging around outside. The off axis clacking is starting to loosen my gusset.
    Please enjoy while I go and test a fire hose or two. Back soon.

    • Greg M

      UPDATE, well that went as well as could be expected Gromit!
      Water DOES melt snowflakes ! Time for some Sid Vicious.

      • Nige.

        Quick Lemmy fact: Lemmy saw Sid the day he (Sid) died.

        • Nige.

          You can thank me later.

        • Greg M

          Yep. You’ve got to wonder about what could have come from Sid if he hadn’t carked it. I think he only scratched the surface, but he sure as hell got that genre rolling.

          • Nige.

            Same ol same ol. If he hadn’t have had such a bad mother…..

    • nellie

      Saw them at Sweetwaters in the early eighties, gotta say they were the most boring live act (because they they weren’t very) of the whole festival.

  • spanishbride

    I’m loving it on Gab and have already bumped into another Kiwi who believe it or not is is a fan of Whaleoil. I have started a hashtag #GabNZ which I hope will trend when enough kiwis get off the waiting list and onto Gab.

    • Nige.

      What is this “gab”?

      I am not at all familiar with this.

      Have I been left behind by the cool kids, again?

      • XCIA

        Gab is a people first social network
        -Users can post “Gabs,” which have a 300 character limit
        -Users can follow other Gabbers and be followed back
        -Users can upvote or downvote Gabs
        -Top Gabs are ranked based on these votes
        -Gabs are also displayed in a chronological home feed, something that is no longer a default option on other social channels

        • Nige.

          Oh yeah. The name didn’t stick in my head.

          • spanishbride

            https://gab.ai/home Gab in my experience so far is a “safe space” for conservative and libertarian voices. No doubt Pinkos will infest it soon enough but management will not remove people’s accounts like FB and twitter do because they have unpopular opinions. Milo who was kicked off twitter is now on Gab. You can mute trolls on Gab

    • Moonroof

      In the queue.

  • Shalice

    While I’m still waiting for my KiwiSaver provider to respond about what they will be doing with regard the so-called ethical investment shenanigans I am already looking at moving my KS away from the default government providers. Anyone else on WO thinking about this? Will it be worth it? There are multiple fees involved so wondering whether it’s a feasible option.

    • STAG

      Yes! Cluster bombs away!!!! let the returns flow in!

      • Shalice

        Cluster bombs is not the issue – the issue is having SJWs decide how other people’s money is invested.
        Today it’s cluster bombs – tomorrow it’s say fertiliser companies which produce fertiliser that kills a certain type of caterpillar. Slippery slope – once the SJWs know they will be changing banks’ policies they will not stop there

        Edit: added last two sentences

        • STAG

          Sod them, find the best returns you can, retire richer and better off then the skim milk drinkers.

  • Moonroof
  • Mrs_R

    Very proud of all our children and the character they show with thought and deed. Our middle child who attends Victoria university is getting up at four in the morning to meet up with others at 5.00am to climb Mt Victoria for suicide awareness. The idea is to climb to the top and then to lift their lights up in the darkness as a symbol and a reminder that there is hope and light when surrounded in darkness. Also with the dawn of a new day there is a new beginning. Very cool. This apparently is happening all over nz where there is a hill or mountain that can be climbed (which is also very symbolic). Each of our children have been touched by suicide so know the pain of the ones left behind .

  • Shalice

    Thanks very much, will do

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