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  • Nechtan

    Today in Rock History:

    Born today in 1944, Gene Parsons multi-instrumentalist, singer and songwriter with The Byrds (1968-1972).

    Born today in 1946 both Gary Duncan guitarist and Greg Elmore drummer with Quicksilver Messenger Service.

    Born today in 1951 Martin Chambers founding member and drummer with The Pretenders.

    Today in 1970 The Rolling Stones released their live album “Get Yer Ya-Ya’s Out!”

    Today in 197 Paul McCartney went to number 1 in the US with “Uncle Albert / Admiral Halsey”

    Today in 1976 Fleetwood Mac’s album “Fleetwood Mac” (their second self titled album) went to number 1 on the US album charts over a year after its release. The album went on to sell over 5 million copies in the US.

    Today in 1983 “Eye Of The Tiger” by Survivor went to number 1 in the UK.

    Today in 1982 The Steve Miller Band went to number 1 on the US singles chart with “Abracadabra” their 3rd US number 1.

  • Carl

    ……..

    • Nige.

      You win the internet for tonight.

      No one else need apply.

    • sandalwood789

      I just hope that she loses the election and if she does, that she gets the message and doesn’t have another go.

  • Nige.

    Dumb answered last nights question with:

    “Could be some frosty nights”

    How has winter been for you?

    • Sally

      Short and mild. Yea for global warming!

    • Carl

      Started slow for the ski fields to start with, got a couple of big dumps which solved that. A couple of weeks of good cold frosts but now very mild. Not even a snowflake has landed in Queenstown yet. So for someone who dislikes winter it has been great.

    • Nechtan

      Very wet but not that cold.

    • Disinfectant

      Queenstown – May wet, very wet with a lot of snow on the mountains.

      June wet and warm and all the snow melted.

      July cold and dry with a bit of sniw on the mountains.

      August wet at the start bringing more snow. But last week warm again.

      Strange winter with no regular and vigorous fronts coming up out of the southern ocean. They were forecasted many times but fizzled out when they got here.

      Been a regular feature now for a number of years in the South Island.

    • Hailstormers

      Winter has been warmer than normal. Great missing two weeks of it while in Samoa though. Not looking forward to end of this week as will be up frost fighting. Could be some looooong nights ahead.

    • Richard

      Mildest winter I can ever remember.

    • Jafarma

      One loses touch with climatic reality when living in a high rise apartment – don’t see frost on the ground if it was there and don’t hear rain on the roof when not on top story apartment – had good views of the odd fog rolling up the Waitemata though.

    • Jude

      It has been mild here in Welly but still all aviaries covered in frost cloth just in case! Pic shows Snow, Mr Jingles, Peanut, then mum and dad Jingles

      • MaryLou

        Gosh – what a difference in Mr Jingles. He really wasn’t… pretty when young (in the nicest possible way, of course!)

        • Jude

          He was like an alien but he is fine looking now!! He has not mated with Snow , she may be not interested this year.
          Peanut has copied Mr Jingles and is singing his tune! Daughter looking for a mate for Peanut now😉

      • Huia

        Goodness me, turn your back for a minute and they are all grown up.
        Absolutely beautiful Jude.

      • JEL51

        Just beautiful.I hope you have told them that if they ever consider escaping, they will be instantly recognized by people from one end of the country to the other ;)

      • sarahmw

        Just so dang gorgeous all of them. Aviary looks very nice. Mr Jingles looking very grown-up.

        • Jude

          Most important criteria for first home was space for aviary!
          Those birds have a very happy , loved life!!

    • Wasapilot

      Been great here, nothing Frosty from SWMBO, I must have been very well behaved this winter.

    • XCIA

      Coming from Edinburgh, I haven’t really noticed “winter”, except when I stayed in Waiouru. Everything I have runs at 18 degrees – car, house and office.

    • Curly1952

      Winter, Spring, Summer or Autumn – They are all good to me because without one you don’t get the others and just think there is only about 265 days until the start of next winter!!

      • Nige.

        That gave me a chill reading

        • Curly1952

          Yea, but its just like every wet day you have you are one day closer to a fine day and every windy day you get you are closer to a balmy day etc,etc

    • Sailor Sam

      OK-we have a very good wood heater and an in-ceiling heat transfer system, good heavy curtains and the house heats up by 6-7 degrees within the hour.
      No sign of a heat pump here.
      It is a big house with 10ft ceilings, insulated in the roof and walls.

    • InnerCityDweller

      Looks like about two months long in Auckland – of which we missed one. Spent it in Europe….. ;-) yay

  • Sally

    Nothing from Little all weekend. Has he gone with Pete for a little R&R?

    • Richard

      No, Labour may be near to destitute, but the outlay on that duct tape is the best $8.50 they’ve ever spent.

    • kayaker

      There’s a rumour on FB today that he’s only keeping the seat warm until Helen Clark returns to NZ (assuming she’s not successful in her UN bid). I don’t believe it for a minute.

      • MaryLou

        I do. :( If she doesn’t take over Labour again, it’s dead. I think she will…

        • Nige.

          Imagine that. After John Key has come out and backed her and said all these nice things about her….and then she comes back to stand against him.

          • MaryLou

            Unless he could put her forward as NZ’s representative to… Geneva? Bahamas?

      • XCIA

        If she misses out at the UN, ostensibly what are her options? I don’t think the speaking circuit or charitable cause would be her thing, but coming back home to reinvigorate her beloved Party with a view to taking over the country in 2020 just might motivate her.

        • kayaker

          I reckon she’s too proud to do that. When she stepped down that was curtains.

      • Second time around

        Helen belongs to a different era, that of Chris Carter, Dover Samuels, Taito Philip Field, Annette King and policies like 39% marginal taxes and interest free student loans. Also, who will take up the load from the parliamentary caucus: it isn’t like The Dirty Dozen where the threat of execution motivated the team in the movie.

        The only reason we have good feelings towards her is that she has moved on.

      • Sailor Sam

        I doubt if the unions will want her back, after all she is now considered right wing by her party.

    • Joe Burns

      Still Ms shark is way down on the on membners preferred list. But a poll taken with UN employees, she is at the top of their preferred ones.

      Takes troughers to know troughers.

  • MaryLou

    A good article here on the myth that is wind power, as told from a UK perspective. Aside from the financial flop, is the bit about the rare earth minerals that are required in their manufacture, making them far less “eco-friendly” than one would suppose. Calculations now show that the billions of dollars that have been poured into this “free energy source” would have been better spent cleaning up existing technologies. Nonetheless, a few lairds and ladies have been well and truly enriched by this project, so I suppose thats something! :)

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/dec/06/wind-turbines-landscape-billionaires-energy-policy?CMP=share_btn_tw

    • Oarsum

      Another aspect of windmills is their daily kill of birds and bats. Some of the birds being mangled are on endangered lists.
      In the very uncommon event of an oil spill and some birds get coated, it is the end of the world as we know it, and mass condemnation. Yet there is nary a squawk about the sacred wind mills
      This blog site has all the info why windmills should be an endangered species
      https://stopthesethings.com/
      Stop These Things
      Edit their instead of there

  • ex-JAFA

    China and US agreeing to limit carbon emissions. I thought it was carbon dioxide, which is a trace component in air and actually much in demand by plants we eat and by the things we eat that eat plants. And all this is to keep temperature increase to within two degrees. Apparently the zero increase of the last two decades is still a bit high.

    • Huia

      Had to laugh when they patted themselves on the back for taking the initiative and hoped others would follow?
      They (and Russia) are some of the last countries to take any notice of reducing carbon emissions and actually do something about it.
      I will believe it when I see it.

    • cows4me

      Commies have to stick together ex-JAFA

  • Spiker

    A week or three ago there was some discussions here about gout, I didn’t pay much attention. Perhaps I should have, Mrs Spiker seems to be suffering symptoms of it. Anyone care to repost their ways of dealing with it?

    • Richard

      Less sugar and rich food, more water

    • Hailstormers

      Had gout 11 months ago. Damn painful I shall say, felt like right big toe had its own heartbeat. The cause; a good quality central Otago Pinot would you believe. Really good drugs required and a change in eating lifestyle was a key for me and not had it since. Although I do sneak the very odd Pinot. Just not a whole bottle. Tell Mrs S to go get some good drugs as it won’t go away.

    • Jafarma

      Colchicine is my drug of choice for gout.

      • SAM51

        Really hard on ya gut though

        • Jafarma

          I haven’t had any problems if I take with food but not everyone is the same I guess

    • XCIA

      I recall my mothers friends who were all into rich food washed down with even richer wines and ports complaining of gout. They all complained even more when their doctor’s put them on a diet.

    • EveryWhichWayButLeft

      The post is here: http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2016/07/day-got-goat-goat-said-doctor-looked-confused-goat-yesyou-goat-understood-said-mad/

      Diclofinac (Voltaren) and codeine are my go-to during an attack. Vitamin C and lots of water to prevent…

    • KatB

      My dad ended up in hospital with it a month or so ago. They drained the fluid which gave him great relief and a course of steroids. He thinks he’s probably had it for years and never realised what it was until he could hardly walk and the pain was unbearable.

    • Catsings

      Try an anti inflammatory diet. Cut back the sugar and fructose. As in, no beer!

    • JEL51

      Uric acid/gout will tend to build-up in joints ie., toes and/or recent injury sights. Foods such as Pork products, (ham, bacon etc) plus some sea-foods, shrimps, prawn etc and beer can all contribute to the builds-up.
      For a mild form of relief take Vit B5 -(pantothenic acid) to balance out of the effects. Because of our typical Asian diet in this household, is full of these delights, I have found that taking one tablet for 4 or 5 days will counteract the problem vitamins that cause it. Make sure you buy just B5 and not a combination. For really extreme symptoms go see Doctor as maybe other underlying causes.

    • KGB

      Mr KGB takes ‘alpuranol’ (can’t spell it, not at home to check, but that’s spelt as it sounds:)
      It’s prescribed to prevent kidney stones, but as a bonus prevents gout.
      He hasn’t had gout in 20 years now.

    • peterwn

      If it is pretty bad or if it is recurring, go and see a doctor. If pretty bad the doctor can prescribe something that will ‘cool it down’ reasonably quickly (and loosens your bowels I think). Doctor can also prescribe an antiinflammatory which is a notch up from Voltaren which you can take when an attack is coming on. If you get it alot, it can cause permanent damage, so doctor may prescribe allopurinol to keep the urea level down thus preventing gout in most cases (do not start off with 300mg immediately get 100mg pills prescribed initially and work up from 50mg to 300mg over 3-4 weeks).

      Unfortunately antiinflammatories are ‘contra indicated’ (meaning they should not be taken together) with blood thinners like warfarin (‘rat poison’) or dabigatran/pradaxa.

      I am sure it is hereditary – my maternal grandfather got it very badly and my late mum got it after downing a dozed oysters.

      • Superman

        They say that oysters are an aphrodisiac but it’s not true. The other night I had 12 of them and one didn’t work!

    • Second time around

      Partially hereditary but also related to iron levels, so uncommon in younger females. Overeating and alcohol exacerbate the problem. The pain.often in the big toes, can be caused by the uric acid crystals freeing themselves from the affected joints, so drugs like allopurinol which lower uric acid production may initially stimulate an attack, hence low doses for a start, often with an antiinflammatory.

    • Spiker

      Thank you all for your replies, plenty to go on there. Why is it the good things in life also can be bad? Always seems to be the way.

    • Doc45

      Hi Mr S. Obviously diet plays a part in gout but the very best thing I know are polyphenols. If you go to a website of Dr Red in Australia they have some ideal, safe natural remedies that work.

    • Nessie

      No oysters wine or spirits, and for goodness sake don’t accidentally nudge the foot. Too painful.
      Oh and keep the foot raised –

    • Chris EM

      Celery capsules from the natural health shop. They work a treat for me. I only take them for about a week when I feel the pain coming on. Highly recommend trying them.

  • XCIA

    When two of the country’s most outrageous liars are in conflict, who do you believe. Peters addressing his flock of cyclops’s in Dunedin slated the media at length for not being invited on Q&A. The media in turn said that Peters had been invited to appear on two separate occasions and had declined them both. As much as I dislike the MSM, I would choose to believe them on this occasion.

    • Richard

      Oh he was invited alright…he just can’t remember it.

      • XCIA

        I guess that’s why they asked him twice

        • Carl

          9am on a Sunday morning for a man of Winnies age would be quite hard. ( no offence to people of Winnies age with this comment. )

          • Mike Webber

            I have chosen to be offended, I am older than flipflop Winnie.

          • Carl

            If you were really offended Mike you would have called for everyone to boycott liking anything I post and want me banned from commenting on the internet. Maybe you have but I will not apologise for anything I write. (sarc)

          • Mike Webber

            Of course not, I chose to be offended should say it all. Like you I will not apologise for anything I write. I have no time at all for Winnie, but I don’t think his age is the main problem.

  • LovetoTeach

    I agree – so OVER the rain….and it’s raining now :(

  • Nige.

    Guess what this is….

    • MaryLou

      It’s rain, Nige. On a window…

    • KatB

      Drops of rain on a windscreen and can just see a giraffe through the droplets. Obviously, you’re on safari.

    • Sally

      Badly laid concrete.

      • Nige.

        Don’t remind me about my concreting

    • Isherman

      Hmmm…must be Climate Change.

    • Brent

      transformer pole/switch (power pole)

      • MaryLou

        Transformers are on TV3 right now!

        Err – just if you’re interested…:)

        • Brent

          Shetland on netflix’s tonight.

    • Lux

      EEeeekk… It’s The Lochness Monster… and it’s has swum downtown to NZ >>>

    • JEL51

      C’mon Nige, we know you haven’t seen much of this stuff in the last couple of years but really?

      • Time For Accountability

        Crude oil

        • JEL51

          The stuff he doesn’t get to seeing all that often, is falling in gentle bucket loads up here in the North at the moment.

    • Goldie

      Hmmmm… tricky, but I’d guess: looking out the side window of a car (in the rain) at a jetty on a lake somewhere?

      • Nige.

        Correct

        • Goldie

          What!!! Ok… Rotoiti?

          • Nige.

            I shoulda put (pic)

            Ngakuta bay.

          • Les couilles de chien.

            I couldn’t for the life of me see a jetty there until you put up the name, now its plain as…!
            Did you hear the loud bangs last night? seems the sci-fi movie Ascendance is being shot over here, I thought we were under attack!

          • KatB

            Maybe Nige is starring in the movie?

    • Asian_driver

      Looks like a texture overlaid on the GUI of a motorvehicle

    • Lux

      Or Maybe you have discovered Oil in your backyard ??

      Pack ya bags up Granny . you’re heading to the big smoke !!!!!!!!!!

    • Michelle

      Are you underwater as l can see a fish in right hand corner?

    • dumbshit

      That would probably be view, “Angry” would be seeing, as he keeps his head down, and the “riplets” wash by!

  • hookerphil

    Gee the Warriors are an interesting mob. They were leading 12 nil in next to no time, now down 18-34 after 46 minutes.

    • Lux

      That score reminds me of the team NZ score in their last fiasco ..

    • Carl

      Think what it has been like supporting the Warriors and the Hurricanes (until this year). Years get shaved off your life ever year with frustration.

      • hookerphil

        I notice Paramatta have a big Fijian winger. Just wonder how many Fijian wingers there are playing in rugby and league throughout the world. Just down this way, Highlanders, Crusaders, South Canterbury and have seen several in teams but not noted them specifically.

  • Oarsum

    On Fathers’ Day I believe it is permissible to play that dying art form of rock’n’nroll
    By a band that had one of the best rhythm sections – James Gang
    If you listened to radio or looked up info on the internet, you’d never know this sort of music once existed. Music with a visceral reaction component, without needing to be over-the-top loud

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_4iQDYDVNo
    And the third clip – not rock’n’roll, but still enjoyable

    • Oarsum

      I’ve not figured out how YouTube files music. You type an artist in the search bar, and you may get about 20 results. If you were not familiar with the artist, you’d think that was all there was.
      The other day I was searching for Wishbone Ash tracks, and it took 4 different pages or search bar entries to find the tracks I wanted. I also searched for the Quicksilver Messenger Service track “Subway”, which I had found a couple of years back. But this time I could only find rubbishy live bootleg versions.
      Then there is the aggregation of various contributors into a large collection. Often these aggregations don’t make sense; or you can’t read what is in the collection of 100 videos
      I should be grateful that these videos are available, but it’s frustrating

    • Wasapilot

      The James Gang, Legends. I have one act left on my bucket list, Joe Walsh. I have seen him live with the Eagles, but not on his own. May have to make a trip to the USA, as it seems unlikely he will get down to Aus/NZ.

      Awesome post Oarsum

  • Sally

    Imagine a disagreement between Little and Peters. Insults would fly thick and fast. Two angry men who both think they are always right.

    • Wheninrome

      Peters might get the upper hand with his memory and use of words, as long as he hadn’t had a drink. He almost has a photographic memory for what he has said, when he wants to get the better of someone.

      • SAM51

        He has trouble remembering when he says no as I recall it

        • Wheninrome

          No is such a little word and to Winnie unimportant, it is the larger more confusing words that he likes to remember.

          • SAM51

            He did forget two important words a while back “Owen” and “Glen”.

      • Dave

        Yes, a real debate between Peters and Little would most likely see Little limping away to find a place to lick his wounds.

    • Sailor Sam

      Peters – “My free tertiary policy is better than yours, so I get to be PM after the election”.
      Little – “Not if I trade you David Shearer for Tracy Martin”.
      Peters – “Don’t need him, I already have Shane Jones”.
      Little – “I don’t like Ron Marks”.
      Peters -“I don’t like your cheap suits”
      Little -“I don’t like you”.
      Peters -“I am going to see John Key, deep down he really likes me”.

      • Wheninrome

        Key’s suits are better.

  • Moonroof

    Album cover for Pete, the tones are good too!

  • Platinum Fox

    I doubt that creosote is available. It was a byproduct of the town gas plants that ran on coal. The last source I was aware of was the Dunedin gas company, but that would be nearly 30 years ago!

  • Lux

    As at the beginning of August 2016, the manufacturers have advised that the name of this product has been changed from Creosote to Creostain.

    Edit to add: This is because the preservative they were using in the old Creosote product is no longer approved by the Environmental Protection Authority (EPA). Please note also that the old Creosote product used to deter horses from chewing fences, however the new Creostain product will not.
    http://www.fertilefields.co.nz/drupal/creosote

    Edit also more suppliers: Creosote – NZ Chemical Suppliers

    http://www.nzchemicalsuppliers.co.nz/content/page/creosote

  • Nige.
  • Lux

    We should have a Dingbat of the week ..

    Who would your Dingbat be this week and why, that’s if you can explain away their dingsness?

  • Lux

    Kamo, Whangarei.
    “Quick run! Children running home from school.
    At least 3 of them are barefoot, you don’t see that so much these days!

    • Dave

      Oh the poverty, kids without shoes! Quick someone call the Media Party, it must be John Keys fault.

      • Lux

        This photo is before my time, but I went to school without my shoes all the time.
        I hated wearing shoes.
        Then you grow up and wear expensive heels and ruin people’s floors..

        • XCIA

          A bunch of years ago, I knew a fellow who was the manager at a Hannah’s shoe shop. He told me once that he hated when the country children came in for their first pair of shoes after going barefoot all their lives. Apparently, their feet were larger than normal and it was difficult to find a large enough size in a shoe that their parents liked.

          • Lux

            I did ballet and gymnastics, and played all sorts of sport in the middle of the wild days of my childhood, and growing up so my feet were kept in check ..
            I love wearing no shoes around the house though..

          • Nessie

            My kids would take their shoes off on the way to school as soon as they thought I couldn’t see them. Never realised that having them nice and clean in your school bag gave the game away “oh mum I just took them off at the gate!” The kids who kept their shoes on were in the minority,

          • Lux

            There was a family a couple of houses up the road from us, and they used to teach all the children in the neighbourhood the poi and the maori dance before it before came cool to do it. We were just a bunch of children just loving it.
            Anyway, one of the families sons was in my class and we were friends and our horrible teacher sent him home, because he had no shoes on. She really was a racist.
            My mother happened to be outside gardening when he walked home in the middle of the day crying, and she asked him what was wrong.
            He was sent home for being poor, stinky and had no shoes.
            My mother was so upset she went down to school and asked what the hell was going on, as she knew I had no shoes on as well.
            My Parents were very vocal on the School committee and the PTA, man those were the days..
            Dad was in charge of the committee and Mum in charge of the PTA.
            Dad used to get me type up the notes from the meetings, and Mum from the PTA.

  • Sunshine

    Try a farm supply shop – that’s where I last bought creosote from.

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