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  • Nechtan

    Today in Rock History:

    Born today in 1941 David Clayton Thomas vocalist for Blood, Sweat and Tears.

    Born today in 1944 Peter Cetera songwriter, bass and vocals with Chicago and solo.

    Born today in 1954 Steve Kilbey founding member, singer, songwriter and bass with The Church.

    Today in 1965 The Beatles released “Yesterday” as s single in the US.

    Today in 1976 Peter Frampton ‘s fourth solo album, “Frampton”, was awarded a Gold record. The album included “Show Me The Way” and “Baby I, Love Your Way” which would be later become huge hits off his next “Frampton Come Alive” album. But this an acoustic track from the album.

    Today in 2009, 92-year-old Vera Lynn, became the oldest living artist to have a UK number one album with “We’ll Meet Again – The Very Best of Vera Lynn”

    Died today in 2015, Gary Richrath, lead guitarist and songwriter for REO Speedwagon aged 65.

  • Carl

    ….

  • Nige.

    MaryLou answered last nights question with:

    ” I go, forgetting”

    What have you lost?

    • Nige.

      I have lost my awesome screwdriver. If anyone finds it please return it to me!

      Actually…I think Bruce may have borrowed it.

      • dumbshit

        There it is, in the photo!

        • Huia

          Poor old Bruce gets the blame or did he get screwed?

          • dumbshit

            What’s a chippie doing with a screwdriver? He should stick to his “knitting”!

          • rantykiwi

            Exactly – to a man with a hammer every problem looks like a nail.

          • Nige.

            He has shifty little eyes.

          • Huia

            Well, he didn’t like that cold steel up em.

        • Nige.

          I took that photo because I was bragging to my plumber about having such a cool screwdriver.

      • Blueburd

        Think the cops have it…. was last seen with the screws!

      • johcar

        I can confirm, that if Bruce ever had it, it didn’t arrive in Auckland with him….

    • Huia

      My youth.
      My figure.
      My ability to earn big bucks.
      My will to spend hours on housework.
      My tolerance for stupidity.
      My desire to say no to chocolate and wine.
      My respect for Politicians and their antics.
      My love helping charities.
      My trust in Institutions and most authorities.
      My agility and ability to play squash and “hard” sport.
      But apart from that I am running along as normal and the lust for a man in a kilt or Bell bottoms is still strong.

      • JEL51

        That housework thing has changed over the years. I used to vacuum all 3000sq ft, twice a week when the kids were around. Now I’d be exceptionally diligent if I do it twice a month ;)

        • Michelle

          When the kids were little l had a tidy house but as l have got older l have more important things to do then housework and my friends are the same, only one keeps spotless house, not that l notice if a house is clean or not
          l go to see the person not their house

          • Nessie

            And I have learnt not to shift things on the sideboard. It only draws attention to the fact I haven’t dusted for God knows how long . . . .

          • Miss McGerkinshaw

            My ex mother-in-law used to say “You can sign your name in the dust, just don’t date it”.
            Didn’t stop me being a neat freak until I got older and realised there were more fun things to do than clean house AND no-one notices anyway. Like Michelle I don’t notice when visiting others – I’m visiting them not the house!

          • Michelle

            or when the sun shines at an angle through the window onto a surface and you can see the layer of dust

            Life is too short to be worrying about a bit of dust or dirt when there is so much more interesting things to do with your time

      • Miss McGerkinshaw

        Agree with all except my lust is more along tight trou, boots and a well rounded rear end.

      • Michelle

        All of the above except the last about the kilt, never did anything for me or bell bottoms on men
        Housework l used to do it every night now l warn visitors that they enter at their own risk, but they don’t seem to notice or don’t say
        When l do clean up no one comes to visit anyway

    • Isherman

      A couple of weeks back when we chatted about this I mentioned that I have a habit of misplacing my sunnies. Well, they haven’t turned up yet and I’m slowing running out of stupid places that they normally turn up in. Its a problem, very fond of those glasses.

      • Huia

        Check on top of your head.

        • Isherman

          Yeah I know, checked that. I probably shouldn’t say but I do recall once I was wandering around the house wondering where the heck I’d dropped my lighter.

          I was holding it, took about 5 minutes to click:)

          • Usaywot

            I often find mine in the bottom of the laundry basket with washing on top. They can languish there for weeks.

        • Nessie
          • Nessie

            Oh bother – its the one on glasses – plays before.

      • MaryLou

        Have you checked on top of your head? That’s where mine hide.

      • Michelle

        l have lost about 3 pair recently and still not found them
        l think someone is a sunnies thief round here

        • Isherman

          Check with Nige :P

          • Nige.

            Hey hey HEY! It’s not my fault if they jump on my head when I’m not looking!

            Ya’know, I put a pair on the other day not realizing that I already had some atop my forehead. I only noticed when i saw my reflection in my vehicle Window.

            Was quite a close call.

      • Nige.

        Did they…look like THIS?

        • Isherman

          Right brand but unfortunately not. I do metal frames, cant stand plastic wraparounds.

    • XCIA

      I come across things that I have no recollection of buying in the first place.

      • MaryLou

        It’s why I’ve started doing the shopping alone. Otherwise I get home and find that “somehow” I’ve bought a multitude of chips, chocolate, cake… and most disturbingly – pickled onions.

        • XCIA

          Ah! Pickled onions finely diced, red salmon and Philly cheese on wheaten rolls for lunch;-)

          • Huia

            Onion Jam is nice to XCIA. Love it crackers etc, use it on pizza’s spread over the base too.

          • XCIA

            Totally agree with you there Huia. Its a favourite when you settle down to watch some serious TV – Cheese, crackers & Cotterill & Rouse onion marmalade.

          • Nessie

            Have you tried 180 Oaten Crackers? Delish. Expensive.

          • XCIA

            Yes! I have been buying the Walnut ones for ages. I like them with a pear relish.

          • Michelle

            bacon jam on pizza bases is very nice as well

          • Miss McGerkinshaw

            Now that’s one thing in the onion department I don’t like.
            But can happily eat a raw onion sandwich with lots of salt!

          • XCIA

            Talking raw onions. I had a mate in the Wharf Police who was involved in the “no passport, deport” dawn raid era. When he knew that a raid was on, he would cut a raw onion in half and wander around with a half under each arm at the beginning of his shift. The MO was that it made eyes water when they were in a headlock and resistance was less……

          • Miss McGerkinshaw

            Ah them were the days – no passport -> deport. None of this faffing about with ‘rights’, etc.

          • Nige.

            Onions and cheese sandwiches

          • Miss McGerkinshaw

            Toasted or grilled

          • Nige.

            Raw bro

          • Miss McGerkinshaw

            All three variations do it for me – depending on mood.
            Thinking about it may now HAVE to have a one so it’s bad dreams for me!!!

      • Wheninrome

        Have they had the security tags removed ?

        • XCIA

          I have this compulsion when I see someone using or in possession of something that takes my fancy, I track it down on line and procure it.

    • MarcWills

      I lost a winning $3 scratchie ticket on the way to redeem it for 3 more $1 tickets – one of those I just know would have won a $10,000 prize. Some lucky finder is rich, sadly, I’m still poor!!!

    • Duchess of Pork

      My sense of humour. For one day only I hope.

    • D.Dave

      I occasionally think I have lost my marbles, then I realise it is the rest of the world at fault. I do have a bad habit of putting tools down, and not being able to find them again, until I no longer need them. It is probably why I have so many double ups. I always find the original just after I have purchased a replacement.

      • Nessie

        Boxcutters! I found 4 when I moved the hay –

    • Michelle

      Memory from childhood till l don’t know when, it is a black hole, some days l can’t remember what l was going to do or have done

      • JEL51

        Take fish oils/Omega 3. It is amazing the turn-around in no time at all.

        • Michelle

          Um l take 6 x 1000mg a day and no difference, but the joints feel better for them, if l don’t eat too many citrus or l seize up

          brain damage done years ago and a few concussions on the way have not helped either

          • JEL51

            Yeh, guess so. My niece in Oz has had to give-up being a jockey for the same reason. I find my memory fails if I become anxious, then will work perfectly later. What makes me laugh is standing in front of the drawing board (my office ) in the kids room, wondering what I went there for, then remembering I was on the way to the other fridge in the laundry just through the wall. It is a geological/homing instinct/memory at work rather than an itemized/instructional memory functioning. I have done that so often.
            I read a great little book awhile ago called My Stroke of Insight by Jill Bolte Taylor, outlining her experience of having a stroke while remaining conscious right through it. Quite interesting.

          • Michelle

            Nice to know l am not the only one who goes somewhere to get something with great impetus and get there and wonder what on earth l went for
            l only have to look at something or something flashes through the brain and what l was going to do has gone
            Even worse when talking to someone and glance at something and totally lose my way and have no memory of what l was even talking about
            Jockeys do get thrown about a fair bit and l had a few early concussions with horses
            Actually some days l wonder how much activity is going on up there if l am tired l can barely function

          • JEL51

            As long as you can stop and ‘wonder’ you are probably ok. You can always drop a line on here & can meet-up for a coffee somewhere, if you are ever in doubt.

    • Lux

      One day when I was doing some emergency building work on my shed, I took off my engagement ring and put it with my 2 – One hundred dollar notes in safe place, for safe keeping.. I have never been able to find them.

      • Nige.

        Hopefully they will be comforting each other!

        • Lux

          If anyone finds two big bills inside a big ring .. they are mine I say !!!!!!!!!!!

          • Miss McGerkinshaw

            With any luck they may have been breeding in the meantime!!!!

      • Miss McGerkinshaw

        Years ago lost my mum’s engagement ring. After searching high, low and any unlikely places more than once decided it must have fallen off and as I don’t wear it often just didn’t notice. Every so often would get the whip out and beat myself up about it.
        Anyway got a sore throat just prior to moving, went to get a lozenge from my bedside table and as I tipped the box up out with the lozenges was mum’s ring!!!! Obviously hid it there for ‘safekeeping’ when I took it off intending to put it into my usual hiding place in the morning (have been burgled so tend to be a bit paranoid) and forgot.
        Moral of story – don’t give up you never know where it may turn up!!!!

    • rantykiwi

      My sanity…. and after today at work most of my will to live.

      • Nige.

        Just ignore them.

        Come down to Blenheim with the boy for a holiday.

        Phone my oiler mate at the quality hotel.

        Have a pie and a beer. Walk up the wither hills, go fishing at nagakuta bay, trip up on the steps if the new world class theatre.

        You’ll have recharged batteries in no time!

        • rantykiwi

          I’ve just had a three day weekend away relaxing and ignoring work, and it was all undone before lunchtime today. I really need to turn off my caring and empathy, stick to 8 hours a day and push back when the workload gets mental.

  • Big_Al

    Just announced on TV ONE. The Boss is coming to Christchurch in February 2017.
    Awesome as i am a great Bruce Springsteen fan and hope to get a ticket to the Auckland show.

  • Sally

    Chris Hipkins is upset Parliamentary Services are blocking emails to journalists.

    How is the different from MPs passing on info to a blogger which upset so many it resulted in a hack and a book?

    • XCIA

      The only thing outrageous here is that we, the paying public are forced to suffer the Party list fool Hipkins in the first place. If ever there was a reason to bring back FPTP, then he is it.

    • Nechtan

      So the security classifications don’t matter Chris?
      Who are you?
      NZs equivalent of Hillary Clinton?

    • Blueburd

      Another who is “outraged” the list grows and grows Soon NZ will be known as Aoteaoutragous

      • johnandali

        Anybody who reads the Daily Mail on-line will be very aware that words like outrageous and fury and a whole swag of others are used every single day. I have compiled a list of some of them, and true to form, you’ll find them in every on-line edition. It’s not surprising that MPs who lack any literary skills would emulate the DM.

    • Sally

      Ha ha pic. Whale oil a forbidden word.

      • Dave

        I think they would be better to ban any words such as Press, Herald, Stuff, Campbell, Journalist, Media etc

      • Rightsideofthebed

        Labour wouldn’t have been able to get any emails out at all if ‘crisis’ was a blocked term :)

    • DavidW

      I’m outraged that Chris Hipkins abuses the term ” outraged” so readily. It cheapens an extreme position and reeks of the ‘boy who cried ‘wolf” thus making it meaningless for my outrage to be recognised. To say I am teed off to beat the band ( where did that come from?) is a vast understatement.
      I’m tired and need a wee lie down while I cuddle my post pram dial shot of Drambue.
      To summarise, Hipkins gives me the ………….. ( use descriptive of choice here)

  • Citizen

    A 19 year old man punches a police officer causing her to lose conciousness. Outcome : community service. Does he have a criminal conviction. Should he not go to jail.

    • Nechtan

      I think any assault on the Police should result in jail time.

      • Old Man, Torbay.

        Preferably jail time of at least one year.
        Prison sentences of one year normally result in restrictions that require visa applications for overseas travel.

        • Nechtan

          At least, no ifs, no buts, no excuses.

        • Citizen

          So a conviction for punching a PC will not result in visa restrictions unless accompanied by jail term of one year. Thanks for that

          • Old Man, Torbay.

            A conviction for punching a cop could however surface during examination by border officials. Those officials could easily decide not to (for instance) grant a visitor permit.

      • Gazza

        Agreed , but lefties don’t see whats wrong with giving law and order the bash

    • Carl

      Of coarse he should. What is annoying me is that what is being lost here is that the media are going after the family because they are rich. Rich or not it just shows another useless judge with no spine to give a decent sentence.

      • mehe

        His crack defense team got the charge downgraded. Not to mention stringing it out for months and trying to get permanent name suppression. Family wealth is relevant – they paid for his lenient treatment.

    • MarcWills

      The only redeeming fact is that 300 hours of community service will be hard – that is quite a significant length of time for him to reflect on his criminal behaviour. Three hundred hours is one of the longest times for this type of sentencing I have heard of, so that is significant in itself. Don’t forget – also yes, there is a criminal conviction.

      • Usaywot

        Community service is a soft sentence. I know from experience…not mine but from where I worked. A friend of a staff member got community service, he came in a couple of times a week and made tea and swept the floor and tidied up a bit, job done. No hardship. It was a charity so it counted as being a charitable work. Laughable really.

      • Citizen

        That’s reassuring to know there is a conviction. Which should provide consequences that will hurt him. Generally interested in criminal justice, we all are up for jury service. Interested that the law is being applied evenly. Good for courts to have options but the mild complexity creates difficulty for lay public (me) to assess outcomes. Thanks

        • Joe Burns

          ‘conviction’ So no chance of travel to the U.S. tsk tsk With the life he may likely lead with that sort of inheritance or paternal assistance he may have some longer term regrets.

      • Nige.

        Problem there is that the people who they do the community service for don’t want them around either so they write extra hours off to hurry the along. Its BS. The only deterrent for crime is jail.

    • Les couilles de chien.

      Absolutely he should have gone to jail. He punched the woman police officer unconscious and then gave her some more for good measure! I don’t imagine the sentence would have been so soft if he was a moari/pacific islander and not a privileged white boy. Really annoys me the lack of respect towards our police and then the lack of real consequences. He ‘acted out of character’ said the judge, I suppose it was too much to ask for a judge to ‘act out of character’ and apply a real sentence for a crime for a change.

      • Dave

        Let’s. It forget the brat son of the Maori King, he also received a light sentence, it was appealed and the sentence was increased. Perhaps it’s time for kiwis to let the law makers and Prosecuters know we want this appealed. We expect little thugs like this (spoilt or not) to face an appropriate punishment for their crime! I also know the entitled brat says he had given up drinking and won’t touch alcohol again. I’m calling Tui on that. How convenient to drop that one as an explanation, guarantee he is back partying and drinking in a few months once this blows over!

      • curry4me

        Yes, he should have got the maximum, and a strike warning too.

    • Nechtan

      Thought just occurred to me, why isn’t Greg O’Connor and the Police Association squealing about this sentence? Shouldn’t they be pushing the relevant powers for an appeal against such a light sentence?

      • Carl
        • Nechtan

          Good, nor should he be. If he could get the same amount of media coverage over this that his anti firearms crusade generates then I’ll shut up.

      • Citizen

        I have no knowledge or experience but I feel we should all be able to have a good sense about what the outcomes are and mean without a lot of study; because it’s necessary for all to participate. Therefore I expect that the police association’s duty is to appeal if they feel the outcome is inappropriate. If the police do not appeal it signals they think this is appropriate. Which might be their attitude?

        • Nechtan

          A police officer was knocked unconscious, and then given a few more knocks. I can’t imagine the rank and file are over the moon.

    • STAG

      Repeatedly punched, let’s not pretend this wasn’t the first or only punch the spoilt little prat threw that night.

    • johnandali

      I read the other week of two sisters who resisted arrest and assaulted a police officer. And there were other charges as well. And what did they get? Community Service. And still we have no idea at all whether community service is ever completed, and what penalties there are for those who don’t attend it. In the absence of any information whatsoever, I believe that we are not being told anything because we won’t like what we hear.

  • Nige.

    As pointed out by C4M in another thread:

    • Huia

      Wow, why would that disappear or are they hoping they can slide the imposter into her place.

    • KatB

      I’m telling you, it’s that movie, Dave, all over again.

    • Korau

      The conspiracy people will be having a field day in the states about this. Is she, isn’t she??

      See for yourselves https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/1996

      I make no judgements, but we live in interesting times.

      • Nige.

        It’s fascinating. Leaves our politicians in the dust.

      • STAG

        I’m convinced, the Lizard people walk among us! Bow down to your reptilian over lords!

        • MaryLou

          Yes, JK is a Reptilian, and I learned yesterday in the wilds of the web, that Max is in fact not his son, but a KGB plant.

  • cows4me

    Why do so many in this country believe they can have their cake and eat it too ? Once again a news item a couples of days ago about a protest in Northland, seems there are a lot of protests in Northland, are the people up there particularly thick?. And have a guess as to what these fine upstanding people were protesting about. Was it the struggling health system, the crumbling bridges, the high unemployment ? No dear readers it was a protest against an Australian mining company trying to find gold. A protester Hori Chapman stated , “mining was the opposite of what was needed for a prosperity in the region”. Will I’m sure mining doesn’t rock your boat Hori but you have to start somewhere. For a region that continual appears to be depressed you do yourself no favors but of course you will probably next yell and scream about poverty and unemployment. Why does the rest of the country have to carry these fools, why do we work so they can protest, I say cut the arseholes lose.

    • Big_Al

      I’d say that they are protesting because jobs will be created in the area for them and the thought of giving up their dole money and actually having to do real work is scaring the hell out of them.

      • MarcWills

        I doubt any of them will qualify for jobs – using heavy mining equipment means drug testing and they would have to give up the dope. Never going to happen.

        • Michelle

          Never saw the tv but knowing most of the unwashed then they wouldn’t pass any drug tests
          This is the dope growing capital up here
          Throw a few seeds away and they will grow on the side of the road
          know of a teacher who brought high potency seeds into NZ and grows them in a place right beside the road where you can see them
          Funny to watch the helicopter flying around spraying and the growers having kittens about their crops though they are getting cunning and not growing in plots but putting plants in pots spaced out

      • Michelle

        I think you will find a fair few are on the sickness bene as it pays more and they don’t have to work
        Remember it is not far down the road from Waitangi, home of protesters and with some having Ngapuhi blood in their veins they are always up for a fight/protest

    • Huia

      Ah C4M, I had a certain sympathy for them over the mining as here on the Coromandel we fought that particular fight a few decades ago to save the beautiful scenery and kiwi habitat here.
      Last year we received a letter informing us that the Government had now changed the rules, (without any consultation with us in this area) and a mining company is now liable to come onto our property and do some test drilling whether we want it or not. All we are entitiled to is three weeks notice and there will be no employment generated as the mining companies bring in their own staff.
      So I did have a twinge of sympathy for them although I understand totally what you are saying and agree with most of it.

      • cows4me

        We have the same laws here Huia. I’ve had several oil companies come through the farm, exploring, it is how it is. So why should the rules be different for other parts of the country ? Why is it fine for Taranaki to have drilling rigs everywhere but Northland is some forbidden zone? Why should revenues generated by mining, oil, be sent to help clowns who think they can live for free ? I’ve no time for them

        • Carl

          I remember when they used to come on the old mans farm. As a 10 year old before there was health and safety I used to go down and get helicopter rides off them when they landed. One was over 2 hours of flying and landing it was great.

        • Huia

          True, but we don’t have a farm, we have half an acre and it would be very invasive for us to have them arrive, our little area has priority as it was where gold was first discovered on the Coromandel in large amounts. There were several very large mines in this area and we still have a hangover in the creek behind us thanks to the arsenic and mercury.
          I know what you are saying and I can remember them test drilling around Oakura when I was a kid. The oil workings at Kaharoa where you go into the park and down at Ngamotu, Are they still there?

          • cows4me

            Yeah they are still there Huia.

          • Platinum Fox

            I was back in NP a month or so ago and the old donk that used to be on the RHS of Bayly Road on the way to Ngamotu had gone. There was a non-working donk at the beach.
            I remember that when I was at secondary school there was a drill rig in Blagdon Road that flared gas but wasn’t commercial.

          • Huia

            That would have been when everyone gathered at Ngamotu beach every weekend, the miniature train would have been running as would the soundshell and skating rink.
            Now, that’s a few years ago.

          • Platinum Fox

            Blagdon would have been drilled sometime between 1967 and 1971.
            I don’t remember the miniature train down at Ngamotu, but I do remember the soundshell and the skating rink in operation. The miniature train I remember was on Liardet Street about a block away from Pukekura Park.
            I think the old oil refinery beside the coolstores that used to refine the Ngamotu crude closed in the late sixties – I remember that there used to be a Peak Petroleum station on the corner of Liardet and Gill Streets which I think was the only outlet that sold the local product other than at the refinery.

          • STAG

            You’re showing your age😃

          • Huia

            I know, I’m as old as dirt.

      • johnandali

        I own a residential section with a house on it, in the central North Island. On the title, it says that I have no grounds for objection if mining rights are allocated. I’m half expecting that one day I’ll arrive home from the supermarket to find some mining firm digging a huge hole in the back garden.

    • rantykiwi
    • johnandali

      I believe that there are huge areas of land owned by Ngapuhi in North Auckland that were given to the tribe via the Treaty, but are totally unused. You’d think this would be a great opportunity to the tribe to do something positive with the land, and provide employment and training for its people. Agriculture, horticulture, forestry….. But it seems that nobody is willing to get anything started, because there will be arguments about who owns what, and who has to pay for it. So if the report is factual, it demonstrates a severe lack of responsible leadership. Of course, you’d never hear Andrew Little talking about it. Mind you, we never hear anybody else talking about it either.

  • Nebman

    Went and watched my son play basketball last night. Got up to the stadium early and managed to catch 3/4 of the game previous to his. The game was close but in the end, the fitter and better team won by three points.

    At the end of the game the coach of the losing team and I think his assistant stormed to the office to effectively and very vocally declare the reffing was biased, incompetent, and rascist! There was a senior and a junior referee covering the game.

    I pointed out that in 25 years reffing I’d never heard of a ref accused of that and the explanation was that the calls went against their team because they were not from a middle class white school.

    The players were year 7/8 (11 and 12 year olds).

    And they wonder why we give the game away?

  • Huia

    The rubbish that is on tv at the moment is awful, Housewives from here, there and everywhere, reality shows left, right and centre.
    I heard a whisper today that another one was starting soon, thought you might be interested and we could all probably learn something from this one.

    • Miss McGerkinshaw

      Spent a good portion of today ‘binging’ on u-tube with a series of programmes ‘Real Stories’.
      Actually some quite interesting ones and ‘real’ rather than what I assume most of the Housewives etc shows are. In case you fancy a change.

    • Nige.

      I went to a job today and the tenant was getting sky put on. I write down a few links and tips and tricks and said “here you go. Sky is obsolete”. Very gratefully he offered me $20 for the advice. I didn’t take it. I like helping people.

    • JEL51

      Now we are in a more enlightened age, wasn’t Paul Holmes lucky to get out alive after he purchased Nigel in that market place? The locals must have had questions to be answered about the kiwi male.

    • Spiker

      Heh.. Channel 762

    • rantykiwi

      Subtitled – “They blow up so fast”

  • Nige.

    Yep. Been there.

  • Someone asked me to post this on their behalf (pic)

    • Sunnyjim

      That’s encouraging Deploraphobia, Pete.

      • alt.media, as you know, have been mocked for a long time. we are in the same basket. but the fact is that we’ve moved from cooks to truth, while media has moved from truth to message management.

  • STAG

    Solid gold!

  • johcar

    Bruce is impatiently watching the Departures board.

    Auckland-Shanghai-Amsterdam via China Eastern.

    About 36 hours transit time, but the price was right….

    • Miss McGerkinshaw

      Happy travels. What an adventure for the lad.

    • Sally

      Obviously past through security ok.

      • Nige.

        Yeah. He probably went through at about half passed seven.

      • johcar

        So far so good…

        • Clearly “Whaleoil” isn’t a blocked word at Customs.

    • KatB

      Safe travels. So pleased to see Bruce has added to his badges collection.

  • STAG

    Great news out of the Immigration New Zealand today, Ships Master’s, Officers and Engineers are to be removed from the skill shortage list. This is a great move and hopefully the first step to a resurgence in coastal shipping.

    We just have to make sure that ignorant “captain’s” (never even got close to command) like the current President and Vice President of the NZMSG don’t start thinking they know anything and the world will be right.

    • Frank N Further

      Hmmm. What will come first, another Mikhail Lermontov or Rena. Disclosure, I am not a mariner, so don’t really know the real skills shortage situation.

      • STAG

        Well I can assure you the expertise we have in this country is wide and deep. The Rena had Nothing to do with any New Zealanders, Jamerson? He had a bad day and the old boys network closed ranks. That will not happen today, the law does not allow for it.

    • Sailor Sam

      Seeing as there no longer many NZ registered ships, there is no great demand for NZ registered Masters and mates, or engineers.

      • STAG

        There is a growing demand for marine pilots and a pool of skilled kiwi mariners, why should poms, in dean’s and east Europeans get to come to NZ to fill these roles 2hich should rightly go to NZers?

  • sandalwood789

    Good stuff here – an American is teaming up with the Young British Heritage Society to fight “political correctness” on campuses –
    http://www.loneconservative.com/?p=222

  • //disclaimer: this is my personal recollection, not official court record, and not an official “Whaleoil” report as formal media.

    Both. She was an employee of Centurion, and a contractor to the Conservative party. As the “campaign period” started, she ceased to be paid by Centurion. One of her disputes is that she could never get Mr Craig to agree on the period that the campaign consisted of, nor her hourly rate. This meant she could not invoice. Mr Craig paid two lots of $10,000 at some point as an ‘advance’ against the unknown amount outstanding, but right up to the day she resigned, he refused to discuss and settle both the period of the campaign and the hourly rate. As a result Ms MacGregor could not invoice. The $20,000 was a “loan” (my recollection:) from Mr and Mrs Craig to tie her over. At some point, this loan started to attract a 29% interest rate. The absurdity was that she could not repay the loan until she was told the period and the rate so she could submit the invoice. Why Mr Craig steadfastly refused to settle an hourly rate and a period does not have an answer to date.

    People that support Ms MacGregor feel this was a tool used to control and manipulate Ms MacGregor. There is no answer yet from the Craig camp to explain this specific approach.

    • Dave

      I’m 100% behind the control and manipulation theory Pete, CC sounds like a very manipulative and selfish man, the term Psychopath springs to mind

      • Mr Craig is very litigious, so be careful how to phrase things.

        I’m aware of another NZ blog having been served a production order to reveal the personal details behind a commenter’s account due to comments made about this case. (just a word of warning)

        • Spiker

          This case provides much entertainment for us in the peanut gallery without having to contribute any comments at all. And thats as close I’ll get to commenting about it.

        • rantykiwi

          I hope they replied naming their commenter as one Colin Craig, of the same address as the subject of the comment – there seem to be enough of him for this to be plausible.

        • Nic C

          Yip… I got one of these recently, compliments of this guy’s ‘activities’… scary stuff when you get one for the first time!

    • Sally

      Ah that makes more sense why she was not paid.

    • Nic C

      29%?? That’s outrageous. That in and of itself is testament to the character of this guy. I think ‘manipulator’ is far too generous… ‘bully’ would be appropriate. 29%!!

  • Greg

    Anyone seen this from Halal Choices https://www.facebook.com/halalchoices/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED&fref=nf

    The story head lines: “Halal industry concerns farmer”

    A Horowhenua man wants to know why New Zealand’s meat industry only caters towards one religious point of view.

    After making many calls to local freezing works and several more around New Zealand, he could not find a single place to sell his cow for non-halal slaughter.

    “I did not realise that our country had been taken over to this extent to accommodate a religion,” he said.
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/the-country/news/article.cfm?c_id=16&objectid=11703009

    • Skydog

      The problem is I guess, is the ‘westerners’ will eat Halal meat (unknowingly) as well as Muslims. However Muslim will not eat non Halal killed meat. So to keep a 100% market appeal why not just do Halal?

      • Miss McGerkinshaw

        So does that mean all people now working in freezing works have to be Muslims? If so, sounds like discrimination to me.

        • Greg

          There is a lot of discrimination going on in abattoirs. If they are halal certified the slaughtermen can be male-only, Muslim-only which excludes many from this type of work.

          • Miss McGerkinshaw

            But if I want to hire a blond, blue eyed hunky bloke as receptionist I’m not allowed to discriminate – as a rather tongue in cheek example!!

        • Gazza

          nope , just the throat cutter

          • Miss McGerkinshaw

            Well that’s something at least I suppose

        • Skydog

          As Gazza said below just the slaughter person. So if you are Christian my guess is, you wouldn’t be getting a job as a throat cutter anytime soon.

          Talking of labeling, are you aware weetbix are halal. I was shocked when I realised. Somewhat strange as Sanitarium are owned by the Seven Day Adventists. Here is a link to Halal products in Australia.

          http://www.halalsquare.com.au/groceries/index.php/brands/sanitarium?p=2

          • Gazza

            It is not the full slaughter board either , its just the person with the knife , they say a little few muslim words , turn the animal to the east then cut the throat , there are other slaughter an that are not Halal how many I am not sure with technology I don’t know how many of the jobs are still done by humans

          • sheppy

            Personally I’d rather my meat was killed humanely rather than simply having its throat slit

          • Miss McGerkinshaw

            Not a Christian but just fed up with, what they (producers) realise is not necessarily a good marketing strategy and hence hiding their Halal certification. If it is so good why not shout out loud and proud.

          • Sunshine

            We’ll not exactly true just the slaughterman has to be muslim. There is a whole bunch of inspectors, advisors etc that have to be muslim (and muslim men to be exact) for ratification of the meat industry and halal industry rorts that are going on. I suggest people read the MPI documents and see just how far sharia law has crept into our food industry, trade industry and general NZ way of life. It’s an eye opener!

  • Gazza

    Ha any body reset the count on bogus poll Little yet , what a clown , he has his bogus UMR poll released as propaganda , and reading down the article in conjunction with the poll Labour warns the media not to take to much notice of the poll , cause National were to low , what an absolute bullsup…

    • Michelle

      Have you got a link to the article please

      • Gazza

        Hmm , let me have a look

  • Lux

    I read what was written last week in the summary and apparently CC was laughing and smirking …
    This photo was taken of Colin Craig outside the High Court at Auckland and published on Stuff.

    Is he still looking so cheery and without a care in the world this week?

    • //disclaimer: this is my personal recollection, not official court
      record, and not an official “Whaleoil” report as formal media.

      I noticed also. Mr Craig smiles when he walks up to court. There is a scrum of photographers and cameramen there. When he is in court, he is generally looking serious.

      My reading of this is that he either instinctively goes to his “politician face” when faced with media, and/or he wants to portray to the world that he’s full of confidence.

      In court, Mr (and when she was present) Mrs Craig have laughed at times when the public gallery have found it an odd time to laugh. And generally, when the gallery and/or the jury laughs, Mr Craig doesn’t see the humour.

      As I am not a trained psychologist, I can’t provide a professional opinion as to the times and reasons Mr Craig finds things humourous, but it has been generally observed by media and the public to be at times that the jury, media, court staff and public could not see the humour. This is leading to talk and speculation about Mr Craig’s “take” on certain matters. (as specific as I’ll get)

  • Mark

    Tennessee Whiskey Chris Stapleton

  • Gazza

    Any body going to comment on the delusion of Little and the bogus polls , ghez he has alienated the media party and their poll now .
    Can any body remember the UMR polls quoted by Labour before the last election , we had Cunliffe and King and co saying their internal polling has labour at 35 % , we heard it all the time , what happened at the general election , yep that’s right , they were 10% out , am I to presume that if the UMR poll are suggesting that Labour are on 21% , does this mean then that Labour are actually on 21% LOL , ghez they seize to amaze me

  • EveryWhichWayButLeft

    Does the way CC walks look as silly in person as it does on the telly?

    • //disclaimer: this is my personal recollection, not official court
      record, and not an official “Whaleoil” report as formal media.

      It’s something easy to point out and make fun of. But it may be due to an underlying medical condition (my personal speculation based on court testimony), so I no longer see much point in picking on it. But yes, the walk is the same as on TV.

      The walk is pretty irrelevant to everything else going on, and in the end if it is genetics, a condition or both, it has no true bearing on his capabilities.

  • Greg

    Nothing to see, move along.

  • Old Kiwi

    Just finished watching the Men’s US Open Final having recorded it. The 9/11 memorial at the beginning and the Anthem was very special by Norm Lewis. Found it on utube. What a voice! Enjoy.

    https://youtu.be/Kq_xzeo3vRI

  • Nic C

    Resolve, Semper Fi.

    Quote from a WWII veteran overhearing someone say that: `You can’t bomb an
    ideology.”

    “The hell you can’t. Because we did it.
    These Muslims are no different than the [Imperial] Japanese.
    The Japs had their suicide bombers too. And we stopped them.
    What it takes is the resolve and will to use a level of brutality and
    violence that your generations can’t stomach. And until you can,
    this s*** won’t stop. It took us on the beaches with bullets,
    clearing out caves with flame throwers, and men like LeMay,
    burning down their cities, killing people by the tens of thousands.
    And then it took 2 atom bombs on top of it. But if that was what it
    took to win we were willing to do it.

    Until you are willing to do the same…well I hope you enjoy this s***, because it ain’t
    going to stop.”

    (Mods: please excuse the expletive… was part of the original quote, which I astrixed.)

    • [MOD] Thanks. On that basis, it lives. (and so does your account ;)

    • Wasapilot

      It has become apparant that unlike Japan in WW2, we do not know where our enemy is geographically, rather than being in one country, they are spread all over the world, and in many cases live among us.

      To carry out his approach, countries would have to be cleansed of islam by deportation, however that still leaves the nutters who were born in our free lands.

      Sadly I think the only real steps we can take is deportation or imprisonment for any actions including hate speech, and surely, not let any more in. I think we are stuck with this plague of midevil lunacy.

      • Nic C

        Northern Iraq and Southern Syria would be a good starting point Wasa! (tongue slightly in the side of my cheek here!)

        • Wasapilot

          😀 say you nuked Saudi Arabia when mecca was especially busy at haj or whatever they call it, yep you would get a lot of baddies, but that would only lead to an acceleration in radicalisation.

          All we can do is attempt to get our countries back to the way they were and not let more in, either to live or visit.

          It saddens me, as I have worked with several muslims who I would trust with my and my families lives.

          • Nic C

            You’re absolutely right of course Wasa. The reason I posted what this ex-vet said, was purely based on the sentiment behind his words, rather than the literal ‘practicalities’ of dealing with a far more asymmetric threat than what the Japanese posed in WW2.

          • Wasapilot

            His sentiments, and desire to end this cult once and for all I agree with. If only it was as simple as a couple of low yield nukes 😉

          • johnandali

            When I was employed in Singapore, I had a good number of Asian Muslims working for me. They were lovely people. My wife and I would be invited to family weddings. And a pilgrimage to the Haj was a very important duty to them, and it was expected that every Muslim should attend it once in their life-times. We used to make a real fuss of our pilgrims on their return. The Haj was so important to them that on their return, they would change their title from Mr to Haji (Pilgrim).

      • johnandali

        During WW2, any Japanese or Germans and their families were placed in special camps with high wire fences and guards. I would expect that if war broke out between Islam and “the rest”, the Police or Army would have to round up all practicing Muslims and intern them. It would not only protect the citizens, it would also protect the Muslims.

  • Nige.

    Nige’s burning question of the night:

    Data. Is it “dayta” or “darta”?

    • MaryLou

      Dah-ta – if you’re speaking English. Or Dayta if yo’re speaking American.

      Did you know that tortilla actually means “omelette”?

      • MaryLou

        If you want a tortilla in Mexico you have to ask for a A quesadilla. If you want a quesadilla you ask for a quesadilla. Bit if you want eggs, it’s a tortilla!

        Kids learning Spanish. Not an easy language…

      • rantykiwi

        Speaking of language confusion, Mitsubishi really didn’t their homework when they named the Pajero.

        • MaryLou

          AAAHAHAHAHA – I just Googled it! Poor buggers! Mind you, I bet Toyota wishes they’d chosen something other than ISIS, too.

        • Seriously?

          Len has a fleet deal with them.

      • Seriously?

        That must be awkward if your a Mexican restaurant in Spain.

    • You could run a poll. My personal bugbear: Basic. (pronounced Bes-ick)

      Also Procent. I prefer percent.

      • Nic C

        Never heard ‘percent’ pronounced ‘procent’ before Pete… nor ‘Bes-ick’ either for that matter… is that actually a thing?

        I would’ve thought that as ‘Basic’ comes from the root word ‘Base’, then the silent ‘e’ makes the previous vowel sound as you ‘say it’ not as you ‘sound it’… i.e. bAsic.

        Or am I missing something here? Dunno.

        • EveryWhichWayButLeft

          Beginner’s All-purpose Symbolic Instruction Code…

          You learn something new every day.

          • Nic C

            Well… you would’ve thought by now I’d have learned not to question Pete!

          • Never give up. I’ve discovered over the years I’m wrong more of then than I like to admit, and if people give up on trying to correct me, I get this misplaced idea I’m good at it. :)

          • Nic C

            Haha… I always enjoy when wisdom is presented with such humble nuance! Kudos.

      • You can almost guarantee that anyone who says bass-sick is ex-military.

    • Dave

      No, it’s Dahta !!!

    • XCIA

      Just call everything “stuff” ;-)

    • EveryWhichWayButLeft

      It’s day-tah in my world… just like color has no ‘u’.

      Only one programming language I’ve ever used resolved the word ‘colour’. I was forever getting it wrong in that language so I subclassed colour as color so my code would compile without having to fix typos.

      • Must be a northern dialect, because in the lower reaches it’s always been dah-tah

        • EveryWhichWayButLeft

          Maybe. In my work we use a lot of spatial data and this is always referenced to a datum (day-tum, not dah-tum). So maybe it comes from that. #justifymyself

          • I can see the logic there.

            Same with cache…

            cash
            kay-ssh

            and one person (who remains mercilessly mocked)

            ka-sjay

        • Goldie

          Likewise always been dah-tah for me.As an aside, always have a giggle at the way poms pronounce router ;)

    • Seriously?

      Depends. If she is a cute Amazonian you dateher, if not you darther

    • Flattanker

      Both, when i worked in the states it was dayta, and the poms / kiwis darta

  • Old Kiwi

    Pete, It’s great to be able to get an accurate account of the court proceedings. IZB news room is starting to get up my nose. Today they reported that Rachael was upset that JW had conveyed her confidential conversations to the Conservative Party board members. At the time I thought – what?… Then on way home caught the start of 3 news live. There the story was continued that she had initial thought what 1ZB had stated but went on to say that on reflection had realised Jordan was just trying to protect her.
    A totally different presentation of what had occurred in court. Until today I had less faith in news hub than 1ZB. There’s actually no difference. Be nice to be freed.
    You guys to a great job. Thanks

    • To be fair to NewstalkZB, they have a child reporting from the court…he’s looks all over about 12yo and has the demanour of Ollie Reeder.

  • Brent

    Pretty proud grandad tonight

    • MaryLou

      Congratulations! First grandchild?

      • Brent

        Yea but the kids are telling me their working on the next edition

        • MaryLou

          Well, you’re short on detail – boy or girl? Hopefully you can recall which way is up, as no doubt some sleep-deprived parents will be calling on you for relief services!

          • Nic C

            Haha… thank god for grand parents; life savers!

          • rantykiwi

            Grandkids are great – you can give them back when you get sick of them.

          • Seriously?

            or if they get sick on you

          • johnandali

            My in-laws used to say “Nice to see them come. Nice to see them go”.

          • kayaker

            That’s exactly what my grandparents used to say. Now we say it to the parents of our grandchildren.

          • Brent

            Boy 8.6 pounds 22 hour labor

          • rantykiwi

            Ouch! Well done mum.

          • MaryLou

            Thought he looked a goodly size for a newborn :). Best wishes to all your family!

        • peterwn

          An ob/gyn said you should wait 9 months before trying again.

          • Nic C

            Yeah, that’s usually how long it takes Peter!

          • peterwn

            Yup! You lay off for 9 months first, so it is 18 months in all.

    • Nic C

      Congratulations Grandad!

    • waldopepper

      what a terrific moment. so glad you posted that photo. newborn looking up at his mom/dad/grandparents. mum or dads hand cupping the vulnerable head. mortgages/what car you drive/how many auckland properties you own etc pale into comparison with whats important in life in this moment.

    • Huia

      Congratulations Brent. You are in for a wonderful time and about to know more love than you ever dreamed of.
      Well done to the little guy for arriving safely.

    • Spoil it rotten, send it back to the parents full of sugar…the basic rules for grandparents.

      • kayaker

        Blue M&Ms all the way. Our grandies love them!

      • Dumrse

        …and the first three birthday presents are percussion instruments preferably drums.

    • Bluemanning

      Congratulations enjoy!

    • KGB

      Oh how wonderful ❤️ good lucky granddaddy!
      It was the best thing that happened in my life:)

  • MaryLou

    Oh this is great… Congress issues subpoena to FBI re Hilary files. About time.

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