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  • Nechtan

    Today in Rock History:
    Born today in 1946 John Coghlan drummer with Status Quo.

    Born today in 1947 singer, songwriter and guitarist Lol Crème (Laurence Neil Crème)
    with 10cc.

    Born today in 1958 Lita Ford songwriter, singer and guitarist with The Runaways and as a solo artist.

    Today in 1968 Steppenwolf recieved a Gold record for “Born to be Wild”. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMbATaj7Il8

    Today in 1969 Creedence Clearwater Revival had their only UK number 1 single with “Bad Moon Rising”. Also on this day they went number 1 on the US album chart with
    “Green River”.


    Died today in 1973 Gram Parsons (Ingram Cecil Connor III) singer, songwriter, pianist and guitarist with The Byrds and The Flying Burrito Brothers, aged 26.

    Today in 1981 The Rolling Stones album “Tattoo You” went to number1 on the US album charts.

    Today in 2004 The Guinness World Records released figures that showed that Status Quo had more hit singles on the UK single chart than any other band. They made the chart 61 times, Queen was second with 52 hits, while The Rolling Stones and UB40 had 51 hits each.

  • Carl

    Are you missing one C4M. (pic)

    • JEL51

      The ones with a spot on the face are always the ones in trouble.

      • Carl

        I hope the cops were not racial profiling.

        • JEL51

          They are so damned cute at that age.

        • Karma

          Bovine Lives Matter!

    • Isherman

      Taking the issue of Killer Cows seriously…get them when they’re young.

    • cows4me

      All class there carl :-) Unfortunately I’ve come home the same way.

      • Huia

        I wonder if this is where the missing 500 Moo Moo’s went.

  • Grumpy of Onehunga

    Just watching TV1 news, a vehicle crash in Huntley. Unfortunately people killed which is sad. However, the road appears to have been closed for hours and is still closed. I really have a problem with this, it happens far too often. Many years ago I spent time crewing a tow truck in London. Priorities were: 1 get occupants out of the vehicle. 2 mark position of vehicles. 3 clear the road. Average time for 2 & 3 would have been ten minutes. It was seen as absolutely top priority to get the road open. What is wrong with our society now?

    • Asian_driver

      I just watched TV3 version, these days its important to collect lots of information to later analyse the accident. That is probably a good thing. Closing the road for a few hours is a pretty good way to make people think about their driving. One thing I noticed is they (the police I guess) removed the number plate from the car. Maybe this was a way to slow down the media doing a death knock on the victims relatives or families door. I couldnt get that kind of inforrmation easily but maybe the police are more than aware of the speed that that information is available if you are well enough connected

      • Grumpy of Onehunga

        My point is that opening the road should be top priority. Inspection of the cars can be done off site and if the road is marked it can be photographed and measured at leisure, preferably in the early hours of the morning when traffic is light and can be managed. In most cases the accident could be analysed by a blind man…look for the point of impact, someone is in the wrong place…end of story

        • Asian_driver

          From what I have watched on telly the SCU just measures and records the crash site ,the evidence would have to be able to stand the scruting of the best paid lawyers. inspections of the vehicles is done later, I guess a certain amount of the delay is rescuing the survivors, and respectfully removing the deceased, which if it was somebody we loved we would expect

    • JLS

      Graeme Bell commented on the road closures on National Radio a few months ago with similar sentiments. With the amount of traffic nowadays I tend to agree with him.

    • XCIA

      With sophisticated drone technology and 3D mapping etc., you would think that road closures would be limited to the time it takes to evacuate the casualties and clean up the mess.

    • Old Man, Torbay.

      I’m sure the old state highway road (the main shopping street) still connects north and south of the accident.
      I recall an overhead rail bridge that would block heavy transport but, if I’m correct, cars could divert through the town.

      • Sailor Sam

        No the SH1 is a bypass away from the main shopping street.
        It has double yellow lines all the way.
        From the photo, the truck travelling north ws confronted by a car crossing these lines heading south and at speed by the looks.

        • Old Man, Torbay.

          I’m aware SH1 is a bypass. That’s why I wondered why police could not divert cars through the main shopping drag. Cheers.

    • Disinfectant

      They also get the serious road crash unit in. This delays re-openings by hours.

      Why does the serious road crash unit have to attend so many crashes.

      Most crash causes can be determined quite quickly.

      Mind you being part of the serious crash unit makes you important and having an ongoing role.

      Maybe their role needs to be scaled back.

      • Dumrse

        Didn’t the cops get burnt on an autocide some years ago and since then started investigating all fatal accidents as though there were deliberate ? South Island if my memory serves me correctly.

    • Nige.


  • Nige.

    Bruno 32 answered last nights question with:

    “a good education”

    Where does the beat education come from? Who or what methodology?

    • Isherman

      Drum school.

    • Carl

      For me it was from my parents growing up. Instilling a hard working attitude and things wont fall into your lap.

    • XCIA

      In my Irish school, every teacher relished the opportunity to beat you for the most trivial of indiscretions.

    • STAG

      Corporal punishment should play a role, the deplorable state of today’s children growing up in an “everyone’s a winner, here’s a certificate for turning up” world are sadly lacking in the realities of the world.

      • Nige.

        Yeah I missed out on that. Can’t say I feel left out. But I can’t help but feel I might be a little bit tougher if I had have had a strap or two for coughing at the wrong time or just looking at the teacher wrong as was sometimes the case.

        Gee the story about the guy who got the duster to the head that was told here once was pretty horrific.

        • Mark

          I went to a High School like that,it is fair to say it shaped my worldview. I figured out that you could just say no. It taught me that there was no difference between the school as Bullies & the “Peers” I had to deal with that were Bullies.
          I had some awesome Teachers worth their weight in Gold & I consider it a thoroughly Honorable Profession,sadly badly served in keeping that Honor intact.

        • dumbshit

          I saw a few dusters fly past, made you wary of where you sat, so you weren’t in the firing line of the class jerk!

    • Eiselmann

      The people I grew up with, good bad and indifferent, they all taught me

      Not that I wanted to learn some of those lessons and the teaching methods of a number of them tended towards the brutal , they all shaped my world view…..

      At school, I had one great teacher ,a couple of okay ones, while the rest just wanted to get their day at school out of the way

    • sandalwood789

      When it comes to teaching reading, phonics wins hands-down. Wellington people will remember the late Doris Ferry (a retired teacher) of the Kapiti Coast. She spent many years of her retirement teaching young children to read using the phonics method. She was in HUGE demand.

      Trust our backwards Education Ministry to still be pushing the long-discredited “whole language” method.

      • LovetoTeach

        Actually they’re not and haven’t done for years. They “push” a balance of phonics AND whole language

    • phronesis

      I prefer learning from other peoples mistakes whenever possible.

      • Nige.

        I learned a hell of a lot from my sister’s mistakes.

        • Huia

          I have learned a hell of a lot from my own. Took awhile though.

    • Aucky

      Three inspiring college teachers in the late 50s/early 60s at Rangitoto College.Two have now sadly passed away but the third is still with us and her mind still as sharp as a razor. They all had a very positive effect on me in my formative years and gave me an enduring respect for the teaching profession.

      • Nige.

        I bumped into a lady teacher about a year ago. An elderly lady who said she was a teacher at our oldest school. Conversation evolved and it turned out she taught my father when he was 6 and she remembered him and his brother. She said she only ever wanted to murder one child and it wasn’t him even though he was rather cheeky.

        How about that. 64 years on and hundreds of children and hadn’t seen him since.

    • Bluemanning

      Commonsense with aspiration and the university of life.

    • Bruno 32

      I was brought up in a large ,poor loving family.My uncle ,lived with us and he was severely handicapped. He taught me heaps. He set up an account so that I could save to go to university after leaving school when I was 8 years old. At school I was a bit of a dreamer ,but a teacher by the name of Bob Clague saw promise and his encouragement got me going. I went to Lincoln and learned the science of farming. The real learning came out in the wide wonderful world. Trading ,buying,selling livestock. You turn up to the event with your shirt glued to your back. Your competitors are all to ready to rip it off.

      I never stop learning . Read,read and read some more .
      I have a couple of family studying post grad at university of Melbourne. They have calculated the return on their investment at over $1 million dollars for the 30 years of future employment they may be lucky to enjoy. No one wants to milk the bloody cows ,though !!!

    • Dan

      Anywhere but school. Seriously though, the best way to learn is to get out and actually do things. I believe that is called experience. The best way to learn is to be forced to teach.

    • Duchess of Pork

      Travel teaches me an immense amount about myself, the world we live in and the other cultures we meet and interact with. Above all it teaches me to appreciate this little corner of the world we call home.

  • Blueburd

    It seems the US has a lot of mentally disturbed people at the moment. The fact a certain group of terror called for sustained attacks escapes the MSM. Here is the latest lucky escape in NJ as devices found before exploding


    • Seriously?

      Yep, heaps of of them. And they are just the avid Trump supports (or for that matter the avid Clinton supporters).

      • Blueburd

        and the list grows

        • Eiselmann

          29251 deadly Islamic terrorist attacks since 9-11, they are doing about 200 a month now…..so 30000 in time for Christmas.?

          oops sorry got this wrong… 29251 deadly attacks by random mental illness patients that have no known connection with each other and the fact they re all muslims is incidental and irrelevant

      • Ghost

        So you saying Trump supporters are blowing things up? Wow.

        • Seriously?

          No. I’m saying what I said. That I agree there are a lot of mentally disturbed people in the US at the moment. I think that includes some avid Trump supporters, and some avid Clinton supporters.

          I cannot understand why anyone would be an avid supporter of either of them (except perhaps out of a greater fear of one over the other).

          I was also trying to be a little bit funny at the same time.

  • XCIA

    I sort of knew it was a mindset in certain sectors of our community, but today was the first time I actually heard it out of their own mouth. Listening to Newstalk 1ZB on the way home when they were discussing obesity in children, a caller said “but it is the responsibility of the state to ensure my children are properly fed”. To her credit, Kerre beat her around the ears with parental responsibility.

    • Blueburd

      I have actually been able to listen too and even agree with some things Kerre says in recent times. Mind you, it’s not hard to find ones self liking what Kerre says when compared to that idiot Dye

    • LovetoTeach

      At one of the union meetings last week, a very passionate, well intentioned speaker spoke about a vision for education which included being able to give everyone breakfast. The vast majority of us thought this was an odd thing to be “aiming” for. Sure, most schools provide stuff for kids who need it, but surely it’s not our vision TO be providing it for everyone. Serious deficit thinking

      • Michelle

        I suppose once they achieve that they will move onto providing lunch and dinner?
        Feeding kids information instead of food would be better

  • STAG

    You had 1 job!!

    • Builder

      It looks like they got the pointy end of the angle around the wrong way when fabricating the steel.

  • Korau

    ST. CLOUD, Minn. — The FBI is investigating the Crossroads Center knife attacks on Saturday as “a potential act of terrorism.”

    Somali-American community members identified the deceased suspect as Dahir Adan. The last time he was seen by family was about 6 or 6:30 p.m. Saturday when he said he was going to the mall to buy an iPhone 7. (that’s dogy, right there when he could have an exploding Samsung).

    Nine people were injured by an attacker who was killed inside the Macy’s store by an off-duty Avon police officer.

    St. Cloud Mayor Dave Kleis identified that officer as Jason Falconer. Kleis called Falconer a hero.

    St. Cloud Police Chief William Blair Anderson said the attacker, who was armed with a knife, reportedly made references to Allah during the attack and asked at least one person whether they were Muslim. But Anderson pointedly declined to call the attacks an act of terrorism, saying the motive isn’t yet known.

    All the pointers are there for another radicalised lone wolf. Another few thousand votes for “The Donald”.

    Article here : http://www.13newsnow.com/ext/news/nation-now/police-several-injured-in-stabbings-at-minnesota-mall/291/nationnow/6O47bFnSX664oUIWyk2qwq

    • sarahmw

      Minnesota took a lot of Somali immigrants about 10/15 years ago and it wasn’t long before the problems started. This won’t be the last of , sadly just the beginning of terrorist attacks. Lucky there was an off duty cop there.

  • Blueburd

    I had a long conversation with a very close friend about just this subject matter not so long ago. No matter what I quoted Trump as actually saying, he only heard and believed the second part of this pic as fact.

    • Huia

      I could have very easily fallen out with a friend over Donald Trump today.
      She continually spouts all kind of nonsense without actually looking at the facts, just believes everything she reads in the paper and quotes it as fact.
      Her views are that the Clintons have been the best President and first lady the USA have ever had because they are so honest and ethical.
      Truly, my jaw nearly hit the table.
      There were about 18 of us in the room and nobody could think of anything to say we were so stunned.
      Finally a couple of people started challenging some of her statements and telling her some hard facts.
      To this she loudly stated she didn’t believe all that propaganda and continued to tell us what the world needs is more women as heads of state, then this terrorism nonsense and border control garbage wouldn’t be happening.
      I quietly asked her “do you mean like Angela Merkel”?
      The room erupted in laughter and she never even said goodbye to me when she left.

      • sandalwood789

        The scary thing is – people like that woman can vote – and *breed*.

      • Mags

        I’m glad I don’t need to vote. Couldn’t vote for either.

  • sandalwood789
    • Blueburd

      March last year. But the one thing this shows is, they are there and they are prepared to do anything

  • DeplorableHungarianPhrasebook

    I was distressed to see a number of people being successfully deceived earlier today regarding the Islamic tradition of FGM. Just so WO’s are clear, this is an official Fatwa on a Saudi Arabia government website:


    “As for female circumcision, it is Mustahab (desirable) and not Wajib (obligatory)”

    There are lots other Fatwas about it by lots of other scholars, and they all say exactly the same thing: FGM desirable, MGM mandatory.

    • Duchess of Pork

      In response to Abdullah I also posted the following:
      But the practice is associated with Islam as some Hadiths mention female genital circumcision favourably [Sunan Abu Dawood 41:5251, Sahih Muslim 3:684, Al-Muwatta 2 19.75, Sahih al-Bukhari 7.72:779] and the Shafi’i school of Islamic jurisprudence considers it obligatory [Reliance of the Traveller section e4.3] There is a close correlation between Shafi’i Islam and the places where female circumcision is more frequent. The practice was also introduced, along with Shafi’i Islam into South East Asia, a part of the world where it had previously been unknown.

  • Fforde Thinking

    So can someone with financial knowledge explain to me why Dun and Bradstreet and letting people check their “credit scores” via their CreditSimple website.
    I was certain that NZ doesn’t have a credit score system, and that the 3 NZ credit reporting companies only held info on credit cards, mortgages, car finance, HP, etc…

    It seems from the comments on the Stuff article that D&B may be making up a “credit score” and that they are just using the angle of “most Kiwis don’t know what their score is” to collect a bucket-tonne of information on people.
    Information requested includes drivers license number, date of birth, job history and income

    Now, i’m not sure if this is standard practice for the credit industry, but their term & cond. include a whole bunch of giving them the right to distribute your details to all and sundry

    tl:dr I think this is a pretty shady (and gimmicky) effort to gather info


    • rantykiwi

      It’s less about credit applied for (although that does count) and more about bad debts registered and whether they were or weren’t actually recovered. The whole reason for wanting official ID like a driver’s licence is to prove that the person making the enquiry is legitimate – not only might they be eavesdropping on someone else’s history, they might also be trying to work out whether their “identity” has been unmasked as fruadulent.

      Have a wee google for “Baycorp” which is the original scumbag credit rating agency in NZ going back several deacdes. An example of their lack of ethics was apparent in the mid-1990s when they bought all of Telecom’s (now Spark) aged bad debts for a few cents in the dollar. Under the statute of limitations a company only has 7 years (I think) after losing sight of the debtor during which they can recover a debt – after that it is consigned to the annals of history and effectively disappears. Baycorp bought the about to expire debt and took a scattergun approach of sending out “You owe $X and your credit rating will be turd if you don’t pay” letters to anyone who looked even vaguely like the person in question. Anyone who ignored the threats suddenly passed the 7 year mark and there was nothing Baycorp could do but cry. Anyone who responded and tried to defend the debt had suddenly “acknowledged” it and the clock reset to zero, at which stage they either coughed up or lost their credit rating. I have no real idea of how successful this was, other than a long ago rumour of a several-hundred percent return on their overall investment in the bad debt.

      They are now a part of Veda Advantage but their modus operandi remains much the same. D&B are just bigger, slightly more respectable but they really aren’t much of a friend. The whole thing is just a ploy to gather details of people who they want to chase for debts.

  • Curly1952

    Well the paralympics have finished and what a great spectacle they were. I didn’t watch much of them however I caught a lot of the highlights and what outstanding achievements by all. With their various disabilities their dedication and will to achieve under adversity is nothing short of remarkable.
    To balance that out on the negative why can’t those who are unemployed, “homeless”, and wasters even develop a minute fraction of the drive, dedication and determination that the paralympics show. Imagine, if you will, how much better our country would be.

    • Blueburd


  • Blueburd

    Recently I had a falling out of sorts with a friend, nothing too serious, but they didn’t like me challenging their views.

    The issue was, they posted video of an Orangutan that was in a sanctuary. Their comment was that this was cruel and that she was deeply upset that this animal was now in captivity and she used the the word, yes, Outraged. She was outraged at what humans will do with animals.

    My comment was very minimal and I didn’t think it was offensive. I asked her why she kept a pet cat and a dog as well as a pet (caged) bird.

    nothing worse than going on a crusade and finding out your doing the same thing huh

    • In the case of the bird yes. But cats and dogs are domesticated and choose to be with you, so that’s not the same.

      • Dan

        I had a budgie that never lived in its cage, except went in at night on its own. Even if the windows were open it would never venture outside.

        PS: I am telling jude.

    • Nige.

      If someone had a falling out over something like that….I hate to break it to you…that ain’t no friend.

  • XCIA

    Did anyone tune in to Seven Sharp this morning to see the debut performance of the man child and his granny? Is it worth tuning in again?

    • Gaynor

      I didn’t bother but there are a lot of negative comments all over the net.

    • kayaker

      Ha! Is Seven Sharp at night?

      • XCIA

        Its so long since I tuned in I forgot the name…..Breakfast, I meant Breakfast.

  • Sally

    Finally University research just for Pete.
    A team at Stanford University have proved monkeys can really type up to a speed of 12 words a minute. Worthless research for most of us except it might make Pete happy.

    • rantykiwi

      That’s 11.5 WPM faster than half the people whose computers I look after. i’m not surprised at all (and Pete having worked in my type of role won’t be either).

    • Oh that’s just _______________ great Sally. Now Cam will expect me to come up to 12 wpm!!! Grrrr

  • Isherman

    Anyone heard any apologies from the enlightened and enraged many who were happy to malign the Chiefs players yet?

    Me neither.

    • XCIA

      No, but listening to Larry it seems the ACT people are going after the Minister for Woman’s Affairs siting her inaction over the Chiefs debacle. I think their rational on this is rather tawdry, albeit they are looking at others on the public largess at the same time.

  • cows4me

    I always thought those navy boys were a bit “different”. The US Navy from November 1st this year will require all it’s sailors to undergo transgender behavioral education. The Navy’s new policies are to allow transgenders to serve in the military. Stop the world I want to get off, the place is going to hell in a handcart. So I guess the next drunken brawl involving sailors will be handbags at ten paces. Give it time and the same liberal nonsense will be here.

    • Aucky

      Did you not see the article on Prime News last night? A female soldier in the Brit Army (the Guards no less) is the first woman to be able to fight in the frontline. Whilst the Brits are still training women for a combat role this particular female has beaten them all to it having joined the Army as a male and has now gone transgender. I have to say that I would not like to meet her on a dark Afghanistan night.

    • XCIA

      They say that in the good old days, the Royal Navy’s traditions consisted of “rum, sodomy, and the lash”. I don’t think the average cabin boys life was a bed of roses ;-)

  • Cadwallader

    I suppose in about a year the General Election will be held. In the interests of speculation only let’s say National gets 51% of the Party Vote on its own, NZ First about 15%, the Greens about 15% and the other 19% to a mix of all other parties from both sides of the House. What could Labour possibly do to regain its dignity and support? Would it be all over for the party? I am beginning to see something along the above lines becoming a credible possibility so surely they’d throw in the towel?

    The current strategy of regaining a voter base through local government is doomed to failure given the very low voter turnout expected next month for local elections and the general hackneyed antipathy regarding councils/mayors etc..

    • XCIA

      I heard today that Goff has been holding fundraisers, the last one at the weekend was with the Chinese community and raised some 250K. Since Mr Angry has nothing to offer, I wonder if Goff will be the Party surrogate cash cow.

      • Wasapilot

        Why on earth would people with Chinese sounding names donate to littles mob?

        • Hakaru

          Was Goff wearing blue as in his campaign colours.

          • Wasapilot

            So goff can get more in donations for his mayoralty campaign than the parliamentary labour party can get for their party. $250k sounds like a lot to give to goff, almst unbelievable.

          • Hakaru

            If Goff does not use all of that money in his Auckland campaign can he then donate any balance to the Labour party for there use. Sounds like a back door method to get money for the party he is supposedly independent of.

        • XCIA

          I believe its called having a bob each way……..

          • Wasapilot

            It is like having me and Usain Bolt head to head in a 100m race, and putting money on me as well, just in case I won. Actually I think I would have more chance of beating Bolt than little has of being the next PM.

          • XCIA

            But, the money was given to Goff and he for all intents an purposes will be the next Super City mayor. I would say there are expectations at play here.

        • Mags

          Same reason that Donald trump has given to democrats and republicans over the years. Smoothing the way for any future deals.

      • DeplorableHungarianPhrasebook

        Goff is going to be the next Mayor. If you think Chinese property developers are not expecting anything in return… think again.

        Probably should claim the GST back.

    • curry4me

      Mmmmmmmmmmm! Where’s the down side?

    • Nige.

      What could they do? They could just shut up and say nothing. If John key is still leader at the end of four terms (apart from that being an unprecedented run in the West in the modern era) the population will just want a change.

      Like cows said the other day “National are damned lucky that labour are a pack of……”

      • Dan

        I agree Nige. Most fail with 3 terms but 4termitis would surely put Nats in bed for a long time. Labour etc would only need to shut up and sit on their hands. No policy, no weird announcements, no rugs, no reshuffles, and no MOUs with lesser more whacky parties. Then come elections in (what?) 2020 the campaign focuses on, “I told you so!”

  • A bit over the top, but funny enough

  • (pic) I wonder if the jury thinks if they are in an alternate reality

  • LabTested

    Yesterday – local elections in the German state of Berlin. Merkel’s CDU got a record low of 17%, just ahead of the AfD anti immigrant party on 14%

    The AfD will govern in seven Berlin councils.


    • sandalwood789

      “The AfD will govern in seven Berlin councils.”

      *Wonderful stuff!*
      I only hope it isn’t too little, too late.
      The Muslims *are* still greatly outnumbered by the locals in Germany.

  • LabTested

    following on from the NY bombs Police have found another 5 suspicious devices near a train station. People have been taken into custody in connection with the earlier bombs


  • sandalwood789
    • curry4me

      Hopefully the only casualty is a robot.

  • Dan

    I had a nice present delivered to my inbox today. It was my welcome to Gab. I feel a sense of belonging! I still need to find my way around as I have never used the blue bird so hash tagging and @ing is a little weird.

  • Wayne Hodge

    This morning whilst having my morning caffeine fix, I perused as is my habit, the cafe’s copy of The DomPost. There was a column by one Jane Bowron. This person was, I think originally a TV reviewer, but has now morphed into a pontificator on everything, especially anything that is anti-government.

    Amongst other matters in her opinion piece this morning http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/84359035/jane-bowron-will-barry-and-tame-make-toast-of-henry the aforesaid Ms Bowron ranked Hilary Barry and Toni Street as NZ’s 2 best female presenters. Toni Street? In addition she continued the Fairafx anti-Hosking campaign.

    No wonder the dead tree media are dying.

  • Wayne Hodge

    So Labour will end up with clearly Labour Mayors in Auckland, Wellington and Christchurch. How much ‘funding’ and assistance will thus flow to the Labour Party in the 2017 general election?

    • curry4me

      They could get a warehouse full of money, or even gold bars, and it’d make no difference.

  • Tiger

    Picked up that Abbot is telling Europe what the real danger is and putting it in simple terms : “a peaceful invasion”. About B…..y time. http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/tony-abbott-says-europe-is-facing-peaceful-invasion-of-asylum-seekers/ar-BBwjZr2?li=AAavLaF&ocid=spartanntp
    With the AfD waking up the Germans, this horrid Merkel malfeasance could be halted. What a sorry experiment in hugging the baddies into assimilation.

  • XCIA

    Looking for something different to watch? Try the National Library of Scotland, thousands of videos to watch for free – http://movingimage.nls.uk/search.cfm

  • MaryLou

    I’ve been looking at this “live” Syria map, in light of Mr Seymours article today, and to try and get a grip on how many Syrians might be being displaced because of ISIS and how many just because of internal fighting. Very hard to tell…


    • MaryLou

      I didn’t realise the Syrians were after the Golan Heights! Don’t they have enough on their plate?

  • WORD OF THE DAY: shot clog – a drinking companion who is only tolerated so they will buy a round