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  • Nechtan

    Today in Rock History:
    Born today in 1930 pianist, singer and songwriter Ray Charles (Ray Charles Robinson)

    Born today in 1939 singer, songwriter and guitarist Roy Buchanan an influence on Gary Moore and Jeff Beck.

    Born today in 1943 Steve Boone bass with The Lovin Spoonful.

    Born today in 1947 Jerry Corbetta singer, songwriter and keyboards with Sugarloaf.

    Born today in 1947 Neal Smith drummer with Alice Cooper.

    Born today in 1949 singer, songwriter Bruce Springsteen.

    Today in 1967 The Doors released “People Are Strange” in the US, where it would reach number 12.

    Today in 1977 David Bowie released “Heroes” as a single.

    Today in 1978 10cc had their 3rd and last UK number 1with “Dreadlock Holiday”.

    Today in 1978 Foreigner released “Double Vision” as a single.

    • ex-JAFA

      I’m assuming 10CC always finish every concert with a localised version of ‘Dreadlock Holiday’. But people who’ve been imbibing don’t always recognise it. Case in point: “I don’t like Matakana” (Crowd boos) “I love it!” (Crowd cheers)

  • Carl
    • Nige.

      Socialist!

    • peterwn

      Bang goes ‘happy hour’! Also there would be chaos with public transport systems. The only feasible answer is for the transport operator to keep operating as usual until the end of the day on ‘old’ time.

    • ex-JAFA

      According to the Time Act (yes, there is such a thing), those working when the clocks go forward must be paid for the hour that doesn’t exist. And when the clocks go back, they have to be paid again for the hour that exists twice. So employers of overnight workers lose an hour’s pay per employee every year.

      • Hard1

        Two hours pay. That’s really mean.

        • ex-JAFA

          Yes, sorry, I got the most basic arithmetic wrong. It might not sound like much, but those types of businesses (cleaners and “sanitation engineers”) are usually working on very thin margins. Or at least they purport to be.

    • Kahukowhai

      Why do we even need daylight saving, it is just social engineering introduced in the 1970s by the Labour government. I have got to the point where I don’t bother changing the clocks on any of my cameras, if the time on the photo is an hour out, tough.

      • Nige.

        I learned the other day (perhaps on trivia) that China has one timezone and this means that the sun goes down at midnight at one end.

  • GoingRight

    So Spark is not having a great time. First the hacking of some of Xtra files in 2014 and now following an email from them to ask their xtra customers to confirm their passwords so that shortly yahoo will be brought over to Spark. What chaos has arisen from this. I have spent the good part of half of today trying to sort out the problems with not being able to send any emails, although can receive them. We are totally Apple based at home and I would have spoken to at least 6 different people today. Yesterday they sorted out hubby’s ipad then I realised my iPad and lap top were also not able to send any emails. One lady suggested I google to find out how to solve the problem! Another suggested that Spark have a maintenance dept which for a fee of $15 odd per month I could contact for assistance. Or for $150 they could send a technician to assist me! I was ropable and suggested that as my problems arose from their upgrade I did not see that I should be paying to get the problem fixed. However hubby was also incensed and suggested we take our business elsewhere having been with telecom/Spark for many years and funnily enough on telling the lady that hubby wanted to cancel suddenly we were told we could speak to their technical dept at no charge! It took some time to sort both the iPad and laptop but we are back on stream and I must say those on the other end of the phone kept their cool in spite of me saying I was finding this all very upsetting and reminding them of the cause of the problem – so fix it! Have others experienced similar problems?

    • XCIA

      Yes, colleagues were complaining to day that they could receive but not send. Some hadn’t noticed until others mentioned it and subsequently found all their correspondence sitting in their outbox.

      • Bluemanning

        We saw on Italian TV late last night that Yahoo email customers have allegedly been hacked, millions of customers were mentioned can’t recall the exact number as I was just nodding off.

        • Kahukowhai

          500 million Yahoo customers according to independent sources. I have two accounts I use for Flickr, have just set a new temporary password on them until I can make up a new one.

          • Bluemanning

            Thank you Kahukowhai I thought I heard a large number but didn’t fathom it was that many, but when thought about it sounds correct. We have changed our passwords just in case. We couldn’t send or receive yahoo emails in the UK and Italy for three weeks, until my Bro in law in NZ sorted it for me. Maybe time for a change methinks.

        • Kahukowhai

          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2d83e9173983b0a069bd5a91a67a380ce4841f725708e7e45be9ab8b8444085b.jpg

          And down the bottom it says “Sign up” …now why would I want to…

        • Kahukowhai

          I have two Yahoo accounts that I use just for Flickr. The real big one, IMO, is browsers with their sync services that can store your passwords for a whole lot of web sites. The Opera browser’s servers were hacked a few weeks ago and I discovered that they were syncing my website passwords back to their server. Well, I have made sure that setting is turned off on any browser that I use on my computers.

          If you *must* store passwords for web sites make sure it is local to your computer and not being synced across the internet through a sync service on a browser.

    • Greg M

      The big question remaining unanswered is it just yahoo accounts that have been hacked or the xtra accounts hosted by yahoo as well ?

      • Xtra by Yahoo! as well.

        Only Telecom Business email, a different service hosted elsewhere, was unaffected.

        • Hard1

          CNET advises “Yahoo hit in worst hack ever, 500 million accounts swiped.
          The internet company, being bought by Verizon, says a state-sponsored actor stole email addresses, passwords and birth dates. Change your passwords. Now.”
          Also remove/disable your questions option to retrieve your password.

    • Bluemanning

      We had problems with Spark in other areas overcharging on roam and an exorbitant bill, their attempt to stonewall me disappeared immediately after I mentioned the commerce commission and fair trading act.😊

      • XCIA

        I had a call from a spark account person yesterday wanting to review my business account. After explaining new deals and packages, I ended up about $280 a month better off.

        • Bluemanning

          A few years ago when running an Australasian company I had similar good service from Telecom due to business competition, however as now a domestic customer it is difficult to actually speak to a person let alone get a better deal, all this from a company who specialise in communication!
          But never fear we have the Internet access their mantra there being caveat emptor.
          Sounds like you achieved a good deal, however if it were me I would now check out what the opposition are offering as companies like spark rarely offer discounts, only most likely when a competitor or the technical market justify the profit loss. 😊

          • XCIA

            I did change once going back a bunch of years, but nothing worked as it was promised, so humble pie was eaten and everything put back the way it was…..I have this theory about IT – If its working, leave it alone!

          • Bluemanning

            We changed power companies when we lived in Sydney. The supplier we changed to made promises that didn’t amount to much, as the competition eventually priced and offered benefits likewise anyway. A lot of trouble for nought really…..

    • Wheninrome

      Working fine for me but I use the same logins etc across phone tablet and desktop sort of networked, not sure if that helps but no problems, all android.

    • KatB

      I’ve had frustrating issues with Telecom in the past. I had to ring several times over several weeks trying to sort an issue. Each time I rang I had to explain the issue all over again and I had to have a spare hour or so to make the phone call. I couldn’t get one phone number from them so I could deal with the same person. It was so frustrating, they could keep me at arms length and there was nothing I could do about it as I was dealing with a faceless person, not even in the same country as me sometimes. Wouldn’t it be great to have a business that has a monopoly, that can’t be reached physically, that can treat customers as rubbish and still make a profit. I think some of these telecommunications companies should remove the communications from their titles.

      • GoingRight

        Each time I had to ring the waiting time was around an hour so I got a call back!
        Add: also got a different person on each occasion.

      • Kahukowhai

        They do not make a profit. no telco makes a proper profit because 2degrees has been subsidised by its deep pocketed supporters to the tune of $360 million of losses over six years.

    • Kahukowhai

      The move from Yahoo to a new email provider was already underway prior to this Yahoo hack. I believe they started transferring customers to the new system last week.

  • Nige.

    MaryLou answered last nights question with:

    “at the neighbour”

    What were your neighbours like as a child?

    What are you neighbours like now?

    • Wheninrome

      Being on a farm some were good but there was always the one that the fencing act had to be called on. The farmer whose bulls would become a problem, the same one whose animals were not looked after as well as tney could be. Still mum and dads problem, but I do remember the conversations as clear as today. The stuff of small communities.

    • Nechtan

      My neighbours as a child seemed old, at least they seemed it at the time (in reality they were probably my age now or a few years older). Nice enough and tolerated us boys occasionally kicking rugby balls over the hedge and retrieving them despite any damage to plants and the garden. Came around when we had BBQs etc.

      My neighbour now is a hard case, salt of the earth type, who calls a spade a spade and if you don’t like you can bugger off. I wouldn’t swap him for anything.

    • Sally

      As a child, on one side a crazy lady and on the other side another crazy lady. On reflection they weren’t that crazy. We probably deserved all the ranting and raving we got from them. Think stealing fruit, balls ruining gardens and noisy kids multiplied by 5.

    • Eiselmann

      As a child my neighbours spanned the full gambit , from wonderful and decent to those who made the news for all the wrong reasons …some wonderful people mixed with living nightmares.

      Now I have a young Maori family on one side, not the brightest sparks but quiet and friendly, on the other side a very quiet elderly Maori lady

    • Big_Al

      Growing up we had mainly older retired neighbours who were awesome. Always treated them with respect and were treated like their own in return. Roll the clock foward to four years ago and bought a new house in a new subdivision. House next door and over the back fence ended up as renters. Loudmouth, foulmouthed teenage daughters with an even louder stereo that would operate anytime 24/7 and boyfriends with loud exhaust cars with louder boom boxes.
      This along with their foulmouthed solo mother who let rip when asked politely to ease up on the noise. Other side a retired local gossip and busybody.
      Over the road when the last tennants moved out, the house was found to be contaminated with pee. This used to be quite a respectable area as well.
      Sold up and moved to a rural town. Much better and friendlier. My how times have changed. Lack of consideration and respect being the main issues.

    • ex-JAFA

      Neighbour as a teen was Inspector Ross Dallow. I may or may not have got away with murder – he might’ve observed things and kept my parents informed, or maybe I was as clever as I thought I was. According to TV, the West family lived directly opposite, but I never noticed all the crime attributed to them.

      Neighbour now is a very generous and friendly chap whom I’ve converted from CCCP to ACT.

    • JEL51

      As a kid the nearest neighbour was a mile up the hill from our valley farmhouse. Close enough to hear the local Pipe Band playing at their house when they stopped for Christmas caroling. We would be helping Mum panic, as our father was patron of the band, and we knew it wasn’t far away for the lunch we were preparing. Being the youngest it was my job to watch out for when the bus left the neighbours to come down the hill.
      Let me say, there is nothing more stirring than to have a band march the hundred yards to your house playing ‘Scotland the Brave’ when in a valley. All my fathers standard bred horses and what ever cattle would gather, then race off, then gather again, as they lined the rim of the hills out of curiosity.
      The neighbours were younger than my somewhat older parents so they became my sister & mine sounding-post….and….they had tv before us.
      Their oldest is my longest friend who reminds me every year that she is 3yrs & 3 days younger than me. She has been at my side every time I lose a sibling. She is very special.
      Current neighbours are all much the same age as we are and although never in your pocket are always there, if ever the need.
      It was lovely to receive an email earlier in the week from a younger one, warning us that their 18 yr old was having a party tonight. It was lovely to be able to reply….”don’t worry, we have all been there and suffer the hearing loss because of it. Hope all goes well “

    • Cadwallader

      Mine was Larry Williams, yes, the Larry Williams. I recall playing cricket in the street with apple boxes for wickets….

      • JEL51

        Are you from Timaru then Cad?

        • Cadwallader

          Grew up there. Still have a soft spot for it. It seems more prosperous than ever these days when I visit.

          • JEL51

            The town itself stayed in the doldrums too long but when sheep & beef weren’t doing things as they should, low & behold blueberries, dairy, dairy feed support, carrots for British carrot juice breakfasts, and many other sideways steps were taken. The one I liked the most was growing bok chai by the paddock so they could sell the seed back to China.

          • Cadwallader

            Timaru seems to have one of the better fishing fleets in NZ based there, it picks up a few conferences and cruise ships too.

    • Jude

      As a child, I remember them being very special. We had an elderly neighbour that my twin and I would visit regularly. She would give us a couple of piece of chewing gum. Juicy fruit , PK or the mint one .
      I am at her age now , I still remember her with fondness. RIP Fobsie

    • Greg M

      Early days in a provincial town was in hindsight quite a sanitised life. Everyone was the same. A few kindly old people in the street, but mostly working men with wives who only left the house to get the bus into town once a week. All the children were Simon’s and Susan’s, all wearing hand knitted cardigans, and life had few surprises at all.
      The apartment I’m in now has 76 residents ( inmates ? ) only eight of whom were born and bred in New Zealand, half of which are grumpy old men like me. It’s a real pleasure and every day is a learning experience. Really good energy around “our little village”.

  • Blueburd

    So so Crooked Hilary wants to impose a 65% estate tax.

    This video also has some good views on the different taxes implemented. the left just love finding ways to make us pay more so they can spend

    • ex-JAFA

      Even the dead and grieving aren’t safe from socialism.

    • cows4me

      With a 20 trillion debt Blueburd I doubt a 100% estate tax would make much difference for long. But the lesson is for all governments but they refuse to listen.

    • Disinfectant

      A long time concern I have always held is why should the Government benefit from excess profits and not the individual.

      Aren’t they as bad as the very people they deride for making money?

  • Huia
    • SerSydney

      not really…just moved the blanket so its in a better place

    • cows4me

      Yeah it’s a real bugger, the extra daylight fades the carpet.

      • Greg M

        The cows won’t be waiting ready to go Sunday morning, they will be thinking “what’s this fool doing up so early”. )

        • Carl

          The old man used to go 10 mins different from the usual time over 2 weeks to get them used to it.

        • cows4me

          No I won’t be alighting any earlier, it doesn’t really matter as milk tanker comes in the middle of the night.

          • KatB

            Did you not get the memo, your MTW has been changed. You’re on 7.30am pick up Sunday morning. LOL

          • dumbshit

            When “cows” vat stirrer breaks down, he now knows where a backup is!

          • ex-JAFA

            More of an effluent stirrer, I think.

          • KatB

            Well that does need to be taken care of on the farm too.

      • RobT

        What really gets me in a huff is the grass grows that much quicker with that extra hour of sunshine…meaning I lose that hour having to cut it more often.lol.

      • Isherman

        Do you really expect us to believe you have carpet Cows?

        • Nige.

          Bah ha ha. You reminded my of the photo he showed us of the chooks in the house years ago

          • Michelle

            Haven’t got a photo but sons peacocks in the house,luckily they didn’t leave too much mess, they are not small
            Did come inside one day to see 10 chooks perched on the legs of the table quite happy and could not work out why l was trying to chase them out

          • JEL51

            LOL, before we laid the lawn & gardens, one of our 18 mth old steers decided to enter the house through the kitchen door, carefully walk around the (temporary) carpet square in the lounge, slurping out his long,long tongue to grasp the indoor palm before I was able to open the sliding doors to release him. I was ever so glad there weren’t any neighbours close by to witness it.
            Shall tell you a peacock story when we meet.

          • Michelle

            Years ago l had a lovely golden weeping bush and one day l went out and saw it moving up and down and l yelled at what l thought was the kids to stop them but nothing happened so l went over to find it was the 600kg hereford bull had squeezed through the small side gate and was happily beating the living daylights out of bush It was never the same again after that
            Lucky he was quiet enough to walk out the big gate but the 2yr old bulls that ended up on the lawn recently were on that quiet and made one hell of a mess, and got called lots of names, they thought it was great fun

          • JEL51

            They damn well know what not to do,then do it any way.

          • Michelle

            Oh yes the amount of animals that have taken advantage of wrecking my garden or house plants over the years and the cost of replacing said plants
            I got up one morning to find the lambs contentedly sitting beside my snowball tree that they had stripped bare or the cattle that reach over the fence to pinch apples off my tree or the ones who jump up every time they hear a pear or apple fall off the tree in their paddock to eat it before l can get to them

          • Spiker

            I woke one morning to find 200 yearling deer around the house. They had really enjoyed them selves overnight. The garden such as it was took some time to recover, for some reason it was my fault..

          • Michelle

            Of course it was your fault
            Bet they had a field day sampling all those lovely plants that are not in their paddock
            it is amazing how much mess they can make in such a small amount of time, no matter what animal it is

          • JEL51

            These are two are temporary visitors and I could see them discussing the benefits of grazing between orchard trees this morning. Wait & see who wins this argument.
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f0fd80d5f7e4bd93f19c5337c94bcb38475f3dc643324258f1e15ea945a0b9be.jpg

          • Michelle

            with their long necks l am sure they will do pretty well if they get the chance
            we used to have an orchard in a paddock and when the horses were in there if there were apples on the tree they would rear up on their hind legs to get them
            Love the piebalds markings

          • JEL51

            He is a stallion surprisingly but lovely and quiet. I am thoroughly enjoying their company. It has been so long since I have had anything to do with horses.

          • Michelle

            All the stallions l have been around have been quiet and easy to handle
            last year l was cleaning out the foot of one with no halter on l just walked into his paddock, picked up his foot and had a look then had to use a screw driver to clean it out and he didn’t move just watched me
            The poor buggers foot was sore and clogged up but he didn’t flinch, he is a lovely lad

      • Larry

        Especially in Queensland apparently.

        • ex-JAFA

          Do they do DS there? I was flying from Melbourne to Alice, and my travel agent friend in Melb reminded me to turn my clock back for DS overnight post-arrival. The tour guide picking me up wasn’t best pleased by my excuse for not being ready on time the next morning! He used some very strong language about DS and the lack of need for it in NT.

          • Spiker

            No daylight saving in QLD.

          • peterwn

            Queensland does not observe DS. This seems a problem for Tweed Heads (NSW) which is on the Queensland border – even more so as a local Gold Coast bus service crosses the border into Tweed Heads.

      • Sailor Sam

        And curtains, as well as cows delivering sour milk.
        Then thre is the moan from Bribane housewife about her husband having his morning ” stiffy” in the bus going to work.

    • Miss McGerkinshaw

      Love it as I totally HATE daylight saving.
      Being a morning person all it does is take away my early morning daylight and I end up going to bed in daylight and feeling I should have my mum reading me a story.

  • RobT

    Just read that Frenchie in trouble for damage on the West Coast plus having got down on a sleeping bag in Auckland has been set free again with his passport returned. Apparently some sympathisers from Europe stumped up the incurred costs. Just a ” wet bus ticket across the wrist” and on ya way…How soft was that?

    • Andy

      He stole $1000 yet didn’t get in any trouble?

      • RobT

        Yes…defies logic and the gravity of the situation. Don’t think we are getting the full story here. Maybe his penalty to contemplate is or should be immediate deportation. We don’t want him, or any other overseas problem types here. He certainly seems a challenge in the way he his carried himself while here……

  • KatB

    Our school had a fancy dress night last night. How refreshing to see a little boy wearing a black afro wig, face painted brown, wearing a rugby uniform, fake tattoo on his arm, emulating a rugby favourite player and nobody seemed to take issue with it. Maybe the Naki isn’t too infected with PCism yet. Shame the boy in Aussie wasn’t so well accepted.

    • Carl

      Why was the young boy not dressed as the great Naki player Beauden Barrett.?

      • KatB

        Maybe the boy was trying to be culturally inclusive?

    • Richard

      Any fake coke there?

      • KatB

        No, none of the white powdery stuff or the brown fizzy stuff.

  • Hard1

    Today is a good day for techies. SanDisk has unveiled an SD card which offers a 1TB of storage space. And Web browser Opera has made its free and unlimited Virtual Private Network available to desktop users on Windows, Mac and Linux. I’ll have a crack at that second one, now that some government has all my Yahoo information to play with.

    • johcar

      A 1TB SD card. At last a way to lose ALL of your files in one fell swoop…

  • ex-JAFA

    On every visit to Bangkok, I’ve noticed that road markings are just to use up the budget. Roads marked for three lanes each way are actually seven lanes one way and four the other, and intersections and rail crossings are carte blanche.

  • Carl

    Martyn/ Martin looked like a cheerful chap on the news tonight.

    • He was the centre of attention every second he was in Court. I suspect he thinks he did a great job, and managed to land some significant damage on the Plaintiff and the political right in general.

      But then he hasn’t been in court for three weeks, and he walked in totally unaware of the mood of the court in a general sense. His presence was … jarring.

      The most amusing thing was that he kept telling Mr Williams’ counsel that a certainly line of questioning wasn’t relevant to the case, and what the case was REALLY about. At one point Mr McKnight said “Well, luckily Mr Bradbury, in our court system, I get to ask the questions”.

      It was highly entertaining, but in my personal lay-judgement Mr Craig’s case didn’t benefit significantly from his appearance.

      • Carl

        That’s how it come across on what TV 3 showed on the news.

      • Kahukowhai

        Didn’t see coverage but it looked like opinionation (as reported in the Herald). I thought Hager was the best, an unwilling witness who saw through the personal spats.

    • OT Richter

      TV1 or 3? Will have to watch on demand.

      • Carl

        3.

  • ex-JAFA

    I think you can be proud of how the vast majority of commenters here have embraced the high standards introduced on this blog, and know the importance of holding their tongues (fingers). There’s always more going on than is exposed, and the truth will always out – in due course.

    • curry4me

      I like the fact that there are no trolls on this blog.

  • Sunnyjim

    Full marks to John Key for his chairing of the UN Security Council special meeting on the Syrian crisis. John Key said that the only way forward in Syria is a ceasefire and political solution.

    “While it is somewhat two steps forward and one and a half steps back and a little bit of finger pointing, ultimately everybody came back to the same view that there isn’t another way forward”, said Key.

    I cannot imagine Andrew Little chairing such a meeting with the same sort of skill and eloquence as John Key did and getting international attention and admiration.

    • ex-JAFA

      I misread ‘skill’ as ‘shrill’, which would be about Little’s level. But I’m sure he’d be better received, not because of his eloquence or argument, but because the UN is nothing more than a lovefest for socialists.

  • Duchess of Pork

    The corruption will multiply exponentially once the alcohol ban is legislated.

    • MarcWills

      Hmmm… don’t delete the explorer.exe file if you use Windows – apart from causing much nuisance, it will prevent you from respecfullly passing on this virus as requested.

    • Kahukowhai

      ROFL

  • Sunnyjim

    Excellent speech by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu as he tells the UN that “you began a moral force” and have ”become a moral farce”.

    https://youtu.be/KFOSMNpYVPA

    He is just brilliant as he lists Israel’s achievements in so many fields and predicts that “Israel has a bright future at the UN”.

    Well worth listening to.

    • JEL51

      Oh the look of disdain, the arrogance on most those faces in the front rows. ….”Will not accept any attempt by the UN to dictate terms to Israil”…
      So good to hear they, those elites from the UN, are being put in their place. With Brexit and Trump polling high, they may just be feeling a little vulnerable. Good.

      • Sunnyjim

        Indeed and Netanyahu very clearly outlines what needs to be done to bring peace to that part of the world, but watching the video it would appear many Arab countries are absent from the assembly. Obviously proves the point Netanyahu is making about the hostile attitude of those countries.

        edit: spelling

    • H. Upmann

      Israel are very fortunate to have this man as their leader. What an inspiration.

  • DeplorableHungarianPhrasebook

    Uh, how come no coverage on WO of #stonetear?

    It is just about Watergate!

    Edit link: http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/22/how-reddit-ruined-the-hillary-clinton-campaign/

  • Jude

    Not a place on my wish list. I have a daughter saving for a trip to Russia . We did the Trans Siberian through there.I hope she can have as a very enjoyable experience .

    • Spiker

      Have a mate who’s just bought a section near Lake Baikal to build a holiday home. No building permit, just do it. Should cost around $80k all up. Nice spot in summer, winter not so much.

  • XCIA
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