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  • George

    I know a good idea to raise school funds! Let’s set up a fake cocaine stand so parents can snort to their hearts content. Then we will have the teachers post photos on social media of this hilarious event of parents and teachers socialising with a class A drug. I’m sure the young children of Northcote Primary School would think it was hilarious.

    What mindless fools would think this was a good idea? The decision to proceed must have been authorised through several levels of authority and it is difficult to believe that not one person could see the sheer madness in allowing this to take place. “In hindsight we agree it wasn’t appropriate” so says Chairman of the Board, Andrew Fox.

    No Andrew, you and all those you represent can’t get away with “in hindsight” rubbish. I have never come across a more serious example of bad judgement. And what is even more disturbing, is those of you who are charged with the welfare and representation of the children in your school have exposed them to this humiliation. And guess what, some of these kids might think it is a good idea to give it a go. After all if our parents and teachers think it is cool, why not?

    • Kermit the frog

      The Friends of Northcote School do a great job fundraising for NPS. The ball is well supported and normally raises $20-$30k each year to fill holes in the school budget.
      Did they get it wrong with the icing sugar stunt…most likely. Do they or the school deserve the online “outrage” being directed at them…no. They hardly turned the school hall into a drug den. Lighten up.

    • Mick Ie

      The organisers made a very poor decision. It’s the fact that it was a primary school that makes it so distasteful. If it was a High School, I wouldn’t even comment.

    • oldmanNZ

      Almost like having a prostitute stand for careers choices.

      Only that one is illegal and other is not.

      But gambling is illegal for under 20.

  • Old Kiwi

    We now know why Andrew Little has been missing in action and as a result is heading for double figures. Andrew has been posing for artwork (on carpet no less). Entered in the annual Wallace Art awards. (Wallace and Gromit? – you couldn’t make this up)
    And as per Pete’s rules be warned – what you click on can never be unseen – ever 😱


    • dumbshit

      She should have gone to “spec savers”!

      • Quinton Hogg

        A spot of electioneering there. Glenda is standing for our local board. The woman is a trougher par-excellence.

      • Nige.

        Doesn’t she look proud.

        That is an unusually large smile.

        • dumbshit

          Just thinking, I could do with a pair of her specs, there are a few things I look at, that could do with “enhancing”!

    • Cadwallader

      ….and Labour belly-ached that JK posed as an All Black.

      • kayaker

        Did Andy pose for this? It just gets worse.

    • Richard

      Little by name, little by…

    • Sally


      • dumbshit

        At least you’ve kept your sight!

        • Sally

          Now that I have got my voice back can I ask who seriously from the 7% would want a naked Andy hanging on their lounge wall? It will tell a lot about their personality.

          • ex-JAFA

            Robbo might want it as a dartboard.

          • Mick Ie

            It could be a little quilt.

          • Nessie

            Facebook offer a cross stitch app that can turn photos into a work of art – this looks like one of them. I must try it. Any suggestions? Will post.

    • Huia

      Out of all the subjects in the world, this is the one she chose?
      It does show his shortcomings though.

    • Isherman

      Wow. Sometimes even 7% is too much.

    • ex-JAFA

      This is the “Member” that nobody in New Plymouth wanted.

    • kayaker

      I can’t look! Saw the pixelated version last night. Felt like throwing up. Why him? This morning cheeky Hosking was calling it Andrew’s rug.

    • Spiker

      Must be Little is aspiring to be the new King Dick?

      • Sailor Sam

        Not even a “pretty little thing”.

    • jimknowsall

      Urrgghh! It’s like he’s a bouncer at CCK!

    • Darren Allis

      Angry Andy’s depicted physique is much like every Labour declared crisis – extremely exaggerated, detail fuzzy.

  • Slightly flawed.

    Imagine the faux “outrage” and cries of rape culture and misogyny from the lefty feminists if a male artist painted Arden, King or Collins in similar style to the latest painting of Little.


    • Wheninrome

      Has he been working out or what, the word steroids came to mind. Getting ready for the fight.

  • Bluemanning

    Had our guided tour of old Pompeii today, 7 hours in total, 3 of which was our own tour with an archaeologist Marcello who was excellent. We were a amazed at the technology of the people who constructed these buildings and planned city systems with credible hierarchy; importantly acknowledged that nothing has changed much, except that len brown’s council is much worse over two thousand years later.
    We were warned of pickpockets around Napoli, our friends were so concerned they birthday gifted to me a shoulder bag that has security and is made of a material that can’t be cut! I can’t recall what it is called I wonder if Rachel Smalley might know?
    Edit spell

    • jimknowsall

      It’s a great place to visit, as is Herculaneum. It’s slightly surprising that after a century, they’re still not even close to excavating the whole site.

      • Bluemanning

        We are going to Herculaneum on Sunday with the same guide. He reckons money is tight for sponsoring excavations, the Universities are doing a lot of it very slowly.

        • jimknowsall

          Indeed. The place is hardly a hive of activity, despite the undoubted exciting things still to be uncovered. Time Team it is not!

          If you get the chance, do take a bus trip up to the top of Vesuvius too. Great views and a stunning volcano.

          • Bluemanning

            Tomorrow Amalfi bus tour just to get our bearings followed by ‘shudder’ shopping, Vesuvius tour Wednesday, Naples museum Thursday, then Herculaneum Sunday. :-)

          • Michelle

            Loved walking to the top of Vesuvius and having a beer there
            We also went to Herculaneum and Pompeii, amazing places and we went to Capri as well and did a boat tour round the island

    • Michelle

      Loved Napoli it is a crazy place and we had no problems, we even got lost there and ended up walking some dodgy streets and the area we stayed was full of immigrants
      Health and safety was not high on their list either

  • Nige.

    Obama disgusts me. If he can make a statement about an American being unamarican then he can come out and make a statement about a religious ideology being ANTI American.

    This is in reference to Colin Kaepernick who won’t stand for the star spangled banner. Player for the San Francisco 49ers


    • Bryan

      3 more months and he is history and Now Trump is ahead of Clinton and like last time she is bombing out as the more they see of her the less they like her and it will really choice to watch once again our media get it wrong, mate they are so blind that they world is turning against socialists.

      • Bluemanning

        Is Trump ahead of Clinton? Appreciate some stats and source please. Interesting.

    • Huia

      I get the feeling Obama is sitting quiet and waiting for the masses to erupt, he can then declare Marshall Law and stay in power.
      If you want to see anti American behavior then watch the Obama’s themselves during the playing of the Star Spangled Banner, most of the time they use the opposite hand on heart, if they use it at all, and the look on her face speaks volumes.
      The Obama / Clinton Government has fostered racial hatred, uncontrolled Muslim immigration and shown all the hall marks of being behind a Muslim Caliphate.
      The really are an evil corrupt bunch and yet the blind still follow along.

    • Isherman

      Philippine Pres. Duterte is obviously comfortable with the “tell him what you really think” approach – check out his remarks about Obama in the event he is lectured on Human Rights.

      • Duchess of Pork

        UK no longer at the back of the queue then.

  • Cadwallader

    All joking aside, the point to take from this is that the most human thing Little has done since becoming a (ahem) Leader is to ostensibly get his gear off. I suspect he may start a trend…next week Naked Materia will stalk us all, and it is still seven weeks until Halloween!

    • R&BAvenger

      Beware, what has been seen cannot be unseen.

  • Wheninrome

    On a nicer note young Tessa Berger standing for the Rodney District in upcoming elections looks a bright young thing. Has achieved an awful lot in her years, represented NZ in soccer, attended University in the States winning a Presidential award and set up a business back home in NZ, maybe the type of person we need in local body politics.

    • johnandali

      As a Rodney resident, we now see stacks of hoardings near the Hill Street intersection and on Matakana Road. I keep an eye on what’s going on in the area, but I know absolutely nothing about any of the candidates and who (or what) they stand for – except that the last person I would ever vote for is Penny Webster, who now tells us her claim to fame is the little roundabout in Warkworth adjacent to the Warehouse Stationery shop. Of course she isn’t saying anything at all about the huge waste of money being spent on revitalising the town hall, which must be the ugliest building in NZ, and the absolute incompetence of Auckland City staff in not discovering it was built on a creek, and had to have millions spent on it to keep it stable. So apart from Webster, who merits our vote?

      • Wheninrome

        I knew the Berger family from way back, although I do not know Tessa personally. However if she has even half the work ethic of her family the district will be well served by her.

        • johnandali

          She’s receiving quite a lot of publicity at the moment because one of her hoardings has been stolen, but I have yet to discover anything more about her, or what she stands for. I wonder if we’re not getting any flyers in our mail-box, due to its having an addressed mail only sign. Darn.

          • Wheninrome

            Check out her website, google her name

    • Sunshine

      A lovely and very capable young woman with lots of grit and determination.

  • Big_Al

    HahaHa, that article and pic of Angry Andy on Stuff this morning made my day. Still smiling. I consider the attached article pic indecent, not because of what it shows but because of who it is. That muscle bound body and abs?? C’mon guys.. On Andy!!!!!

    • Wheninrome

      Is it Robertsons body? This painting is as bad as the snap pics tweeted by silly 13 year old girls and boys. Is he trying to appeal to the masses, get your clothes on man. As my elderly mother says you can do most things as long as you don’t frighten the horses, the horses would bolt on sight of this. Who is his new adviser or was this Matts parting bit of advice – get out there and be seen.

    • sonovaMin

      Heh – anyone who thinks that is Little’s body is easily gulled.
      this is closer to the mark.

  • Builder

    Look how sick Hillary Clinton is, she can’t stop coughing and can barely speak.


    • Ruahine

      Hillary Clinton’s sickness is the biggest coverup since John Kennedy’s philandering.

    • Catsings

      Is she going to make it through the next two months. She looks, and sounds, awful. If she withdraws (faint hope) does Kaine or Bernie pick up the mantle?

    • Huia

      And still not honest enough to admit that she is sick and shouldn’t be standing for the highest office in the land.

      • johnandali

        It’s quite amazing that the media haven’t even mentioned her health problems. I bet if it was Donald Trump, we’d be hearing and reading about any health problems many times each day. I’m getting heartily sick of the bias of our “neutral” media.

    • XCIA

      Same here in Otahuhu where the pollen is thick in the air and people are coughing, choking and have trouble speaking.

  • Big_Al

    I see that Gordon Tietjens has just announced his retirement from the NZ Sevens.
    Twenty Two years of coaching has been a great effort from him and i hope he enjoys his retirement. He certainly has done a great job over the years and he deserves it.

  • lyall

    couldnt help but smile when i heard about Shadbolt’s Southland Breeding initiative to help repopulate Invercargill! Yet at the other end of the country the media is telling me Auckland is like a ‘war zone’ due to homelessness and poverty!
    I think if i found myself homeless in a ‘war zone’ I would at least consider moving to Invercargill! (might even make $5000 out of the deal)

  • XCIA

    Remembering our furry friends………..

  • Isherman

    Here we go, a doomed to failure hit job is newly born on Coleman. Complete utter non story that gets “Breaking News” headline treatment.

    • MrHippo

      Yes an obvious attempt, started with the initial story, hints at attendees, and then wait … the ‘breaking news’. Interesting they reference/talk to LW of the local board – very much aligned with the left and the chap featured yesterday – and because of that they don’t ask the same questions of her.

  • Hard1

    And they’re off…Racing this time, the Academics appear to be falling back, some how trying to bring the rest of the field level. This looks to be a photo finish folks…
    “in following a broad set of academic conventions – referencing, peer
    reviewing, editorial intervention, book reviews, themed issues – we
    hope to draw together Left activists and intellectuals and provide a
    forum for information, debate and exchange, and for the expansion
    and transformation of ideas.
    Despite our use of academic conventions, we seek to
    break from the disciplinary specialism, and movement and group
    sectarianism, that keep these voices apart, and which privilege
    academic perspectives above all others. We hope to publish
    contributions that are of high literary quality and accessibility, that
    theorise with purpose, that are useable and enable us to cognitively
    map our moment. And while our focus is Antipodean by location, we
    hope for connections to an emerging global Left.”
    Here is the DreamTime Report: http://counterfutures.nz/pdf/editorial.pdf

  • axeman

    Interesting last night on Seven Sharp, Mike Hosking talks about an international economist, who said that NZ was like another planet , doing well etc and Hosking made the comment of the night saying that al this good news wont even see the light of day

  • oldmanNZ

    Has any non smokers taking up vaping (the e cigarette thing)

    One would ask why?
    I am a non smoker, and have had a e cigarette thing a few years ago.

    Why, its like chewing gum, it comes on many flavour, and no nicotine…

  • Shalice

    In continuation of the KiwiSaver and ethical investment discussion – I got an email back from my provider advising that they have been reviewing their investment for months apparently prior to pulling out of the weapon industry and that more reviewing it to be done. In the meantime as I had feared – MSM published an article which says the following:

    “Some believe that individual KiwiSaver schemes taking an anti-weapons stance is not enough.” And a few other sentences around investment exclusions “That would result in KiwiSaver schemes ditching investments in cigarette-makers like British American Tobacco and Imperial Tobacco as well.”

    This is just the beginning – SJWs are encouraged by the panic they caused, the reaction they got and won’t stop now until you can only invest in ethically hand made by minorities organic marshmallows.


    • oldmanNZ

      Just wait till someone say they will and give you a better return… See the investor flock to that,