Will Police tell us how many guns get stolen?

Is theft how guns get into the hands of criminals? Surely that’s pretty easy to work out. I am very certain that when people’s houses are robbed and guns are stolen, those firearms’ owners report any theft to the Police. Just like most people do with regular burglaries and thefts.

Which means the Police must know for sure how many guns in circulation have been stolen, right?

But I’ve noticed that the Police have so far been very, very quiet about this.

Even the Police’s unofficial – official – unofficial PR spokesman Greg O’Connor hasn’t been chomping at the bit to tell us the answer.

Greg has been telling anyone who will listen that lots of guns are in the hands of scumbags. He even went on TVNZ the other night and outright lied about the capability of MSSA rifles, and how easily they can be converted to full-auto (it isn’t that easy) and that they could have 50-round magazines (they won’t and don’t). He presented no evidence of that whatsoever.   Read more »


Why talk about MSSA rifles is silly

Anti-gun loons are already up to mischief calling for a ban of all ‘military-styled’ weapons.

Right at the top of their target list (along with others) are AR15 rifles, which are a semi-automatic .223/5.56mm rifle.


The loons hate these sorts of rifles because of the look of them. The loons assume that they are all owned by criminals. They look military so they must be very, very bad. Like the monster that sleeps under your kid’s bed at night and eats undies.

But military-styled guns work no differently to any other semi-auto rifle, like these very benign-looking semi-auto rifles that kids and farmers and hunters all over the New Zealand and the world learn to shoot with.

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Considerations for the gun inquiry

​All the gun control loons will be working hard over the next few months to attempt to convince the Government to ban more guns.

The door has been opened for an enquiry and the anti-gun brigade will do everything​ they can to argue the crude idea that banning guns solves problems. Which, of course, they don’t. There is no evidence anywhere in the world that banning guns has worked. Even in Australia it’s been a total disaster.

Politicians in Wellington will be keen to be seen to have done something. Public opinion matters and doing nothing is not an option.

So, ahead of an enquiry, there are a few things everyone needs to consider:

1. The latest purported gun issue in NZ isn’t about the type of guns or gun-licensed law-abiding firearms owners. The issue is scumbag criminals who are neither licensed nor following any laws and who are managing to obtain guns. How? So an enquiry must focus on that: how are they getting guns;

2. Police have no ability to administer further gun controls if they are implemented through law reform. They can barely administer the laws we have now so more onerous law revisions will be hard to act upon;

3. It will be impossible to register all guns in NZ. With over a million guns, the likelihood of all of these being voluntarily registered is beyond absurd;   Read more »


Penalties in Arms Act must increase

Here are the offences and penalties under the Arms Act 1983.

The most serious offence is Section 45 – Carrying or possession of firearms, airguns, pistols, restricted weapons or explosives, except for lawful, proper and sufficient purpose.

The penalties for that are:

Every person commits an offence and is liable on conviction to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 4 years or to a fine not exceeding $5,000 or to both who, except for some lawful, proper, and sufficient purpose,—
(a) carries; or
(b) is in possession of—
any firearm, airgun, pistol, restricted weapon, or explosive.

That’s it. That is the stiffest penalty you can get under the Arms Act. That is just for carrying firearms without a lawful purpose. Discharging them is another matter. That is handled by Section 48: Discharging firearm, airgun, pistol or restricted weapon in or near dwellinghouse or public place.

The penalties are lighter than actually carrying the firearm in the first place:

Every person commits an offence and is liable on conviction to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 3 months or to a fine not exceeding $3,000 or to both who, without reasonable cause, discharges a firearm, airgun, pistol, or restricted weapon in or near—
(a) a dwellinghouse; or
(b)a public place,—
so as to endanger property or to endanger, annoy, or frighten any person.

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Drug dealing and guns go together: you can’t have one without the other

Almost consistently, guns that are owned illegally by criminals are part of a more sinister criminal activity – drugs and gangs.

What I’ve noticed – and particularly in the last few weeks – is that Police only find guns when they are conducting raids for other reasons, like a raid on a dope grower. There might be other reasons they are at a house or business premise and accidentally find guns, but the guns are not the reason they’ve turned up.

It shouldn’t really surprise us when Police find gangs and drug lords in possession of firearms. The Media party are, of course, stunned and want to sensationalise the hell out of it.

But drug making and distribution is the pinpoint of illegal activities in New Zealand and, logically, I’d expect the scumbags are keen to protect their cash cow business from other drug kingpins who will advance territorially if they can.

Scumbag criminals aren’t exactly going to have a dance-off to settle differences are they?

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Bi-partisan approach to illegal firearms needed

I’m pleased to see that Judith Collins and Stuart Nash have appeared to look at a bi-partisan approach to dealing with the issue of illegal firearms.

They should make sure that they are actually addressing the issue and not disarming all the hundreds of thousands of responsible firearms owners out there just because there are a very small minority of scumbags .

High-level moves to figure out how powerful firearms are making their way into the hands of dangerous criminals are set to get underway within days.

Police Minister Judith Collins told Newshub today she expects the Law and Order Select Committee to begin investigating this week, and if they don’t, she’s got her own plans to get the ball rolling.  

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The wooliest thinking I’ve seen for a long time

I think Jonathan Milne was rushing late on Saturday night, because his editorial is what my old sergeant major used to describe as a ‘shower of shit’.

He is trying to leap on the gun-ban bandwagon. However, he makes contradictory claims and gets basically nowhere. Obviously no one proofed it either as there are sentences that make no sense at all. Mind you, the whole editorial makes no sense.

Ours is a farming nation. Many kids grow up shooting rabbits with a .22 rifle.

No rabbit, however, is big enough to justify the guns that police find, more and more often, usually in drug raids. Military-style assault rifles, AK47s and M16s like those found in a meth lab in Takanini this week.

Personally, I can’t think of many reasons to own a MSSA. I used to, but I grew up. I can see a legitimate sporting purpose for them, however, with 3-Gun Matches as stipulated in international competitions. But what this fool is really trying to say is that we should only have .22 rifles. Clearly Jonathan Milne is not a shooter or a hunter. If he were, he wouldn’t want to see a deer shot with a .22…or, more accurately, annoyed with a .22.

Police confiscated 975 firearms in 2010/11; they seized 1504 last year.

Gangsters and drug-dealers will not, on the most part, have gun licences. But, by hook or by crook, they get their guns from those who do – and there is a quarter of a million of us Kiwis licensed to own a gun.

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And the World’s Best Gun Salesman is…still Barack Obama


Barack Obama continues to be the world’s best gun salesman:

The FBI reported on March 1 that February was the 10th straight month of record-breaking gun with 2.613 million firearms-related background checks performed by the agency.

According to the Associated Press, February’s firearms sales topped the previous record, set in 2013, by more than 300,000 checks. In the first two months of 2016, there were nearly 5.159 million checks run through the FBI’s National Instant Background Check System.

“That’s more than half the 10,036,933 checks run in all of 2006, just a decade ago,” writes Stephen Gutowski, a staff writer for the Washington Free Beacon.    Read more »

Does banning guns do anything?


I’m not surprised that there are calls to ban guns this week after the Kawerau incident. Hordes of wowsers hate guns and want them to be gone forever. So, when I hear calls to ban guns, or certain types of guns, my eyes roll back in my head.

But does banning guns do anything?

I don’t think it does. In fact, it only gives rise to black market weapons, which is really the issue.

Think that banning guns will curb black market guns getting into crim hands? Then you are wrong there too.

In the Philippines the black market has learned how to manufacture guns from nothing but scrap metal. That’s even more likely to be a real prospect in the future as 3-D printing and, more realistically, CNC machines become cheap affordable tools that anyone can buy.   Read more »

Judith Collins wants to know how illegal weapons are getting into New Zealand

Judith Collins is setting the correct narrative on firearms.

Instead of listening to carping wombles who seek to ban guns, she is directing inquiry instead at the criminals and trying to work out how they obtain their firearms.

The Minister of Police wants to see a focused approach on any inquiry into the availability of firearms.

Judith Collins made the comments after a cache of guns was found yesterday stashed in the ceiling of a South Auckland home, including 14 military-style guns, among them AK47s and M16s.

She said she would support a Parliamentary Select Committee inquiry into the issue of how illegal firearms entered the country and indicated police also want the issue looked at.

Ms Collins said New Zealanders would like to know how gangs and violent offenders are getting hold of firearms. She said if there are any loopholes in the law, if there are any people involved in this area, then that’s what we want to find out.

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