Has Bishop Brian Tamaki been a bad boy?

I wonder what Mrs Bishop has got on him.
‘Cause that’s some major groveling.
The real Mother of the Nation?
What does that even mean?

I wonder what Mrs Bishop has got on him.
‘Cause that’s some major groveling.
The real Mother of the Nation?
What does that even mean?
The latest Truth is on sale now:
What has Brian Tamaki been up to in Las Vegas with the “first fruits”?
Who got kneecapped over a drug debt?
What on earth is First Union doing with their member’s money?
Has NZ been Conned with NZ’s Got Talent?
A guest article from Imperator Fish as well.
All in this weeks Truth, plus regular favourites like the Bin Man
Liberty Scott left this long comment yesterday.
It is a very good commentary on Colin Craig and his dog-whistling on marriage equality:
Most of all, why should any adult give a damn what two other adults do in their private lives with each other’s bodies?
So much that is wrong about the post-modernist culture of moral equivalency, identity politics and victimhood politics, so many good targets for conservative politicians around welfare, around education, around a vacuous culture of celebrating mediocrity, of sneering at individual success, of celebrating group identity and ancestry over individual achievement, of denying responsibility for one’s actions and of treating humanity as a disease rather than a species of enormous achievement and potential.
He could damn Islam, but no he hasn’t he courage to do that. He could damn Maori mysticism and collectivist identity politics that has bred a generation demanding entitlement, accusing their actions on what happened to their ancestors and promoting faux pride on ethnicity not achievement. He could damn a welfare state and centralised education system that promotes the idea that people who succeed do so at the cost of those who don’t, and those who don’t succeed or make foolish decisions should be bailed out by everyone else, time and time again. He could really start to damn the results of decades of welfarism, structuralism (the people abuse their kids because of poverty or cultural oppression) and radical feminist denial of the importance of fatherhood, all in ways that raise questions without baiting the collective left.
No, he prefers ot churn out cheap unscientific stereotypes and to focus his attention on what consenting adults who haven’t initiated force against anyone else, do with their lives.
He doesn’t have evidence that proves he is right, but most importantly even if it WAS right, who cares? What does he want the state to do? Should the criminal justice system focus on abused boys more than girls?
Like the shaman conman Brian Tamaki and the unspeakably vile hypocritical creep Capill, Craig is obsessed with gay sex.
The last generation of his ilk said, when I was 16, that Homosexual Law Reform would result in an AIDS epidemic in NZ and thousands of boys being corrupted by men – oddly enough it didn’t turn me, or anyone I know to be gay. He’s wrong now, and those who want a new Conservative Party need only look back in 1996 when the last really formidable effort to have such a party fell short – because it was vulnerable on this one issue.
Brian Tamaki is in danger of becoming like Jim Jones. Destiny Church has already morphed into a cult, now all they need is the compound and the mass suicide:
Bishop Brian Tamaki has raised the stakes with his Destiny Church followers, exhorting them to leave behind houses, jobs – even family members – to join him at a “City of God” he is building in South Auckland.
At the church’s annual conference in Rotorua on Friday night, Tamaki spent his entire two-hour sermon talking about how God had told him to build the city and why his followers had to lose their “parochialism” towards their home areas, even if it meant leaving behind loved ones.
Cult expert Mark Vrankovich said the speech was designed to “soften up” Tamaki’s followers and the real pressure to move to South Auckland would come with one-on-one sessions with local pastors.
“Saying that the church family is more important than your physical family, that you must go with the spiritual family, is a classic cult idea. This will put great pressure on families and break up families.”
Vrankovich was also concerned that Tamaki appeared to be encouraging people to sell their homes. “They’ll be pressured to give the money from the house sale to the church, and they’ll never see it again. He’s extracting money from people for his dream, and something that he will effectively own. He wants to be mayor or king of this ‘city’ so he’s softening them up to get them to move [to Auckland] so he’s guaranteed not to be losing money on the deal.”
The media has done a rehash of Brian Tamaki’s plans for his “city” in Druces Road in Manukau.
Controversial plans for a South Auckland Destiny Church community are set to come to light early next month.
The church’s annual conference is titled the City of God and promotional material for the event feature leader Brian Tamaki in front of Auckland’s city skyline.
In a video Tamaki calls the development “the new Jerusalem”.
Tamaki announced at a New Year’s Eve ‘MegaService’ the church had permission to build schools, a university and a massive auditorium at a property in Wiri.
It is expected to move its Mt Wellington headquarters to the $7.65 million property in December.
A presentation on the vision for the city will lead the Queen’s Birthday weekend conference, to be held at Rotorua’s Energy Events Centre.
Yes well the plans are already released...I blogged about them on January 13 complete with council documents.
So yesterday political leaders with the exception of a dignified John Banks all prostrated themselves at the feet of Ratana, a maori psuedo-christian cult.
Can you imagine the fuss and furore if the nations leaders, not some backbench numpties went and prostrated themselves at the feet of another cult, that of Destiny Church and Brian Tamaki?
There was enough wailing about Tau Henare and some others going to Destiny’s conference, but imagine if they were treated the same as Ratana.
Brian Tamaki is really going to have to try harder to be taken more seriously. Perhaps he could ask Len Brown to broker a deal between Destiny and Labour since it appears that Labour is on the outer at Ratana.
The howling about a school for Destiny was deafening, they only way it could have been worse were if Chinese were the joint venture partners for Destiny.
So why is there no outrage when politicians crawl to other cults.
Brian Tamaki has hit the press with fantastic and extravagant plans for a new base for his church, a university and a “city” in South Auckland. He says he has got a resource consent from the Council to do it all.
In Parliamentary “speak”, he is a stranger to the truth. He could almost qualify himself as a political spin-doctor. Alternatively his statements might qualify him for a Tui billboard! (You could suggest this to Tui, but the company would probably not use the idea.)
The site at 25 Druces Road, formerly the site of Quik-Stik NZ Ltd label plant, has an area of 3.1159ha.
The media have variously spouted the opinions of the Teachers Union, and other opinions in attempting to attack Brian Tamaki. What they should ahve done is trot down to the council like I did and ask for the resource consent details. It is far easier to attack Brian Tamaki using the truth and facts provided by the council.
The Council decision provides a “certificate of compliance” with the rules in the district plan in very precise terms, the terms on which he sought the answer. The certificate states that the specified activities are permitted activities. Note that there is no mention of a “city” nor a university, at least not in the terms Mr Tamaki is publicising. There is not room for either on the site!
You can use Google Earth to match the photo evidence with the plan – I think all the buildings shown are in existence already.
As stated the decision is a deemed resource consent, confirming the information his advisers could have obtained directly from the district plan, however it does provide assurance that the activities stated may be undertaken within 5 years even if the rules in the plan are changed in that period.
It is a shame Brian Tamaki has to always speak woth hyperbole because his organisation despite all the grandiose adherence of loyalty and silly titles actually does do some good things. But when you bluster and talk big it makes the truth that much more damaging.
What astounds me is that the media just blindly repeated the spin from various organisations including the NZEI, Destiny Church and other opinionated dribblers without actually bothering to check with the council. Now they can just cut/paste my post.
I don’t know what is worse, Brian Tamaki’s lies or the media’s laziness.
Chris Carter is on a bender. He has painted himself into a corner and used his own brush and his own paint, but somehow it is all everyone elses fault he is in the predicament he faces.
His solution is to dish the dirt and my understanding is he has threatened to out all and sundry and damn the consequences. He has even threatened media personalities and staff with outing.
He really is a despicable person, being the former pin up boy for gay politicians, now he is acting like a screaming poof, all upset, at high dudgeon about imagined sleights on his [good] name.
The word is Helen Clark and her semi-official mouth-piece, Brian Edwards, have cut him loose. He is all alone and raging against the machine.
This is Phil Goff’s problem. He had to take action but really it is far too late.
Phil Goff hasn’t had any traction. He hasn’t been able to raise his personal approval rating and Labour remain stuck about 20% behind National in the polls after two years of Goffs leadership.
Chris Carter may have gone about it in the wrong way but he reflected a view within Labour that change is needed. There are options, and two of the best and brightest Labour MPs, Charles Chauvel and Grant Robertson are openly homosexual. frankly no one cares whether they are gay or not, and no one cares that Darren Hughes may or may not be either (We are used to him being a Ginga anyway, who cares if he is gay as well). For Chris Carter to now turn into a dirty traitor against his own mates, both labour and gay is becoming extremely uncomfortable, but should it?
The press are going to start asking the question “Would New Zealand elect a Gay Prime Minister?”. I believe yes. I don’t think the voting public actually care about sexuality, and as long as Grant or Charles can convince the voters they are the best person for the job, there is no reason their sexuality should stand in the way of them replacing Phil Goff.
New Zealand is a tolerant country where people tend to believe in live and let live. Even in the mid 70s when the Truth outed Marilyn Waring she did not suffer, probably because her electors thought it was her business who she slept with provided she did her job as an MP properly.
Both Grant and Charles have earned reputations for being good in their electorate, working hard and are personally popular. Charles went close to winning the only blue seat in Wellington, and Grant won Wellington Central with a 2800 personal premium over Labour.
Brian Tamaki and his looney followers may not vote for a gay on the grounds of their sexuality. Bogans and red necks may call them unpleasant names, but I don’t think they would vote en masse against a competent, popular gay leader of Labour. The rest of New Zealand will likely wonder why anyone cares.
I would not vote for Grant or Charles because they are Labour, not because of their sexuality. I have real issues with Grant never having a real job or any real world experience. Charles does has real world experience, being a partner in a large law firm, but his hypocrisy over the power generators dividends means I cannot trust him.
Is New Zealand ready for a gay Prime Minister, yes I believe we maybe indeed ready.
One of Brian Tamaki’s Covenent boys will be in trouble when he turns up the next church service spontaneous adulation declaration of Imperator in the field conferring of the Grass Crown Cult Meeting. He is missing his Caesar’s Brian Tamaki’s Covenant Ring.
Some one has found it though and it is for sale on Trademe with all the hilarious comments that go along with it. Density Church is horrified.
It is amazing the idolatry that the Destiny Church is placing in a silly ring. James 2:1-4 shows precisely how foreign the covenant ring is, it is creating favouritism to wearers.
1My brothers, as believers in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ, don’t show favoritism. 2Suppose a man comes into your meeting wearing a gold ring and fine clothes, and a poor man in shabby clothes also comes in. 3If you show special attention to the man wearing fine clothes and say, “Here’s a good seat for you,” but say to the poor man, “You stand there” or “Sit on the floor by my feet,” 4have you not discriminated among yourselves and become judges with evil thoughts?
If 2 Peter:17-19 doesn’t describe Brian Tamaki and the Density Church then I don’t know what does.
17These men are springs without water and mists driven by a storm. Blackest darkness is reserved for them. 18For they mouth empty, boastful words and, by appealing to the lustful desires of sinful human nature, they entice people who are just escaping from those who live in error. 19They promise them freedom, while they themselves are slaves of depravity—for a man is a slave to whatever has mastered him.
hat tip Big News

Brian Tamaki (I refuse to call him Bishop) is mad. Now I’m not really one to talk but Brian actually thinks he is the physical manifestation of God on Earth.
I don’t know about you guys but I really don’t think someone as venal as Brian Tamaki would be the Second Coming of Christ, would you?
It is worse though.
It is inevitable that Satan will attempt to destroy the work of God by spreading lies and slanders against God’s Annointed Man. As the Last Days unfold, Bishop Tamaki will undoubtedly come under increasing attack from his enemies.
In recent days we have seen this in the media. A recent episode of Campbell Live attempted to “expose” Destiny’s finances – though it is clear that Destiny has done nothing illegal.
Earlier this year, the Church and God’s Man Bishop Tamaki was the subject of an attack on Sunrise, an early morning TV3 show in which Dr Dennis Green, a religious scholar, compared the Bishop to Jim Jones and called Destiny a cult.
He’s nuts, and now his flock are starting to discover just how venal he really is. He is running a cult, a cult of personality. I think he is actually believing all the shit his followers say about him.
I wonder though when Brian will tell his flock that his marriage is a charade, and that Mrs Tamaki hasn’t been seen for months at the house in Maraetai