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From today’s General Debate, Phantom Citizen comments:

Andrew Little has short memory. Attacking National Party donors has not been a fertile area for Labour to win political points in the past and it continues to be a counter productive strategy now. I think I’m going to coin a new political term. I’m going to call it “The Little Standard”.

“The Little Standard” is a new Labour internal policy whereby the party will block any of its donors (company or shareholders) from:

– tendering for government contracts let by a Labour led government,   Read more »

Impertinent questions from a Comment of the Day

Kim Dotcom on his Pirate Ship. PHOTO-facebook

Kim Dotcom on his Pirate Ship.

Greg M wrote

Some random impertinent thoughts re the Panama papers sideshow.

1: Mossack Fonseca was illegally hacked, not a leak, not a whistleblower.

2: The paymaster is almost certainly a european citizen, but also likely not living there, likely German given the advantage that was given to Süddeutsche Zeitung over other media outlets.

3: Mossack Fonseca is a worldwide company, it even has an office here in little old NZ, which means the hack could have happened anywhere in the world. It’s a whole lot easier for the hacker, the paymaster and the intermediaries to be close so what is discovered can be discussed and assimilated.

4: “John Doe” appears to have a better knowledge of NZ politics than a lot of kiwis, a lot of European political tragics wouldn’t even know the name of our PM.

5. The whole modus operandi is boringly familiar.

Am I joining the dots or do I just need to loosen the tinfoil ?

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Jacinda Ardern

George is at it again

Jacinda Ardern has found 27,000 of the missing million. “About 27,000 voters made the effort to vote last election but their ballot papers were disallowed because, for instance, they were not on the electoral roll”. She criticises the government for not taking up the recommendation of The Justice and Electoral Select Committee which suggested that enrolment could take place at the polling booth on the day of the election. She continues: “Refusing to make these changes disenfranchises people. That’s hardly a reputation the Government will want”. Read more »

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Was thunkin’.

If McDonald’s costs more in poor areas than rich areas then, by the logic of the sugar tax people, all the people in the highly priced areas are going to be skinny and all the people in the cheaply priced areas are going to be fat.

Would like to see the empirical evidence.

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Whaleoil stalwart Dave has done some “research”:

So, who was the winner of the Waitangi Day fiasco, was it John Key or Angry Andy Little? I decided to do some proper research, and see who won the Facebook popularity contest over John Key’ decision over not going to Waitingi for the abuse fest, the results are no surprise.

John Key post at the nines. 12,067likes, 1400 comments, 205 Shares.
Andrew Little. 516 likes, 40 comments, NO SHARES (I even picked his most popular post for Waitiangi weekend).

So, well done John, you catch more hearts and minds with positive fun photos than being a wet dreary angry man.

NB: No animals were harmed in this very unscientific research. Research was conducted just after midnight NZ time, key researcher required a large G&T to recover from the dreary FB page of Angry Andy.

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This comment, left by Whaleoil reader Tony, gives a different perspective on what it is like to deal with WINZ when you are in genuine need of some assistance:

To be fair, the WINZ system is totally hopeless for those in genuine need. For example, my son had to leave his job due to his Crohns condition. He then had to spend about a month in hospital prior to being operated on (part of his intestine removed). Due to this he missed several WINZ appointments for the sickness benefit.

He had completed the forms, and only needed to hand them in. My wife tried to hand them in on his behalf. However, she was told she couldn’t hand them in because she didn’t have an appointment. She tried to make an appointment to hand in the forms but couldn’t do that either due to the inflexible privacy rules. Read more »

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George nails it:

I feel rather sad this morning as I reflect on the demise of the New Zealand Herald. It was a once one of my closest companions. It not only kept me up to date with the news of the day but advanced my education and advised me of things that were relevant to my every day life. Whilst I didn’t agree with everything I read, l never felt manipulated by bias or selective reportage. Like most things I cherish, I was forgiving as I witnessed its decline. I had developed an unhealthy co-dependency living with the belief that one day it will return to its former status, but alas, as it continued to spiral downwards, the time came when I had to let go.

I have considerable admiration for those who strive under the pressure of deadlines and scoops with the expectation they increase or at least maintain their circulation and I would not be so unkind as to suggest it could not be anything other than extremely stressful.    Read more »

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We're winning I tell you, we're winning

We’re winning I tell you, we’re winning

From George, of course:

A message to Andrew Little:

Whoever is advising you is either incompetent or set on sabotaging your career. You are conducting yourself with zero dignity.

I would have thought as leader of a major party the first priority would be engaging with those who could make you Prime Minister.

Here are a few hints:

  1. Most people respond to positivity.
  2. Most people respond to humour.
  3. Most people respond to enthusiasm.
  4. Most people respond to constructive criticism with logical evidence.
  5. Most people respond to a vision that recognises today’s world.
  6. Most people don’t belong to or like unions.   Read more »

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From Jimmie:

I see some on the left have gotten to stage 4 in the political doldrums.

From 2008 it was Stage 1 – Denial that anything was wrong – the electorate made a mistake.

From 2011 it was Stage 2 – Anger. How dare the voters continue to deny them power.

Perhaps from 2014 it has been Stage 3 – Bargaining. New leader, More left wing purity, hoping that third term it is would revive their fortunes.

I think that the Clark statement on the TPPA, the latest Roy Morgan, and Little’s less than stellar performance has pushed them into the stage 4 of Depression as the above link shows.

Gotta wonder when they will get to stage 5 – Acceptance. The realization that the Labour/NZ of the 60’s and 70’s will never return. That they have to adjust to modern reality not the other way round.

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Whaleoil reader ‘seriously?’ writes

Some of the recent posts has me thinking the left is dead, but so is the right. In fact, I now doubt whether the left/right political spectrum has any remaining validity, especially in New Zealand.

The mass of voters have no pallet for extremes, left or right, they want what I’d call pragmatists rather than centrists – they don’t care which ideological perspective an idea comes from, provided that it works. To a degree, Key is giving them that.

I think we substantively abandoned the old left/right divide as a part of adopting MMP. Unlike some other MMP style countries, the voters here have a sensible aversion to complicated coalitions. We want one main party to lead the way, even if they have a few hangers on. As a result, National and Labour faced a decision with MMP – move to the center or cease to be a main party. Labour under Clarke drifted toward the center. National under Key have taken the center by force, and claim it as its own.

It is only smaller bit players that are able survive and still be ideological, the extreme left positions held by Greens are a good example (but we may see them abandon that over the next few election cycles). But even those small ideologues struggle to survive (think ACT, or Mana pre Dotcom).

If Labour want to maintain its shift back to being the ideological party of the left, then they best get ready for a minority interest in politics, and a greater proportion of years in opposition than even they are used to.

New Zealand has, more or less, had the same government now for the last 15 years.  Even though there are hot button issues like asset sales, smacking, gay marriage and so on, the fundamentals of how we live our lives and how our economy functions remains the same.

I always keep an eye on the markets around elections, and it never fails to amaze me that no matter who wins the election, the market doesn’t rise or plunge sharply because of it.  It means that the people who have their financial bits in a vice are not concerned about New Zealand’s general stability and direction.   Read more »