Final results are not expected until later in the day in a vote that would make Ireland the first country to adopt same-sex marriage via a popular vote, just two decades after the country decriminalised homosexuality.
State broadcaster RTE said the victory appeared to be overwhelming and government minister Kevin Humphreys predicted the margin would be two-to-one.
“I think it’s won,” Equality Minister Aodhan O’Riordain told Reuters at the main count centre in Dublin. “The numbers of people who turned out to vote is unprecedented. This has really touched a nerve in Ireland today.”
Gay marriage is backed by all political parties, championed by big employers and endorsed by celebrities, all hoping it will mark a transformation in a country that was long regarded as one of the most socially conservative in Western Europe. Read more »
Charles Krauthammer comments on the Mozilla case where they sacked their chief executive for having donated $1000 to a lobby group against same-sex marriage more than six years ago:
CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER: One of the sound bites you had earlier, someone saying this is a kind of intolerance entering into the culture. I think it’s narrower than that. This is the culture of the left not being satisfied with making an argument or even prevailing in an argument, but in destroying personally and marginalizing people who oppose it, in the same way that proponents of climate change declare the issue closed. It’s over. There’s no debate. It is settled science. Read more »
I supported marriage equality mainly because it was right but also because I believed that everyone deserves a mother in law.
It simply wasn’t fair for heterosexuals to bear the burden alone.
The Telegraph has a handy check list for those happy gay couples thinking of tying the knot in order to identify what type of Mother in Law they will be enjoying for the foreseeable future after their nuptials.
My favourites are:
3 – The Apologist
She’ll ring in the middle of children’s teatime, when baby is choking on lumps and his brother is painting his own name in mashed potato on the French doors. “Is this a bad time?” she simpers. “I know what it’s like”. “It’s OK,” you spit out, catching a glob of shepherd’s pie in your free hand. You wonder if she didn’t start out like that, whether it might not occur to you to feel annoyed. She tiptoes around you like a gopher in a bear cave, apologising for her own existence, until you can’t help but snap.
“Oh dear”, she sighs, with the dying breath of the little match girl striking her last flame. “It seems I’ve overstayed my welcome.” Read more »
Don’t know about that, but GST, RMA and Same Sex unions are all celebrating a birthday today
Oct 1 1986 Goods and Service Tax Act comes into force in NZ Read more »
Little Johnny is being a bit silly, in a fuddy-duddy kind of way.
MARRIAGE equality is “nonsense” and children should be raised in an “ordinary, orthodox, heterosexual marriage”, former Prime Minister John Howard says.
Mr Howard was in Adelaide today bolstering support for the Coalition , particularly in Hindmarsh, which is sitting on 50/50 in the polls.
He did a good old-fashioned shopping-mall walk, where he had a ridiculous number of selfies taken with strapping young lads. Read more »
The tide is turning in the United States over marriage equality…so much so that some conservative catholics are becoming vocal. Joseph Bottum is one such catholic, conservative, moral crusader who has changed his tune.
Which is why “The Things We Share: A Catholic’s Case for Same-Sex Marriage,” an essay by Joseph Bottum, published Friday on the Web site of Commonweal magazine, is something new in this debate.
Mr. Bottum, 54, is a serious Christian. He attended Roman Catholic high school, college and graduate school. His erudite writing for conservative magazines like National Review and The Weekly Standard is laced with references to church history and theology and to Christian writers like G. K. Chesterton and W. H. Auden. He fiercely opposes abortion, and for five years, until 2010, he was editor in chief of First Things, a key opinion journal for religious conservatives.
In his large Victorian house here 50 miles from Mount Rushmore, a crucifix hangs in the hallway. At lunch, he crossed himself before we sat down. Mr. Bottum is the kind of man who, when he casually says “Thomas,” you know that he means Aquinas, the 13th-century Catholic philosopher.
Not five years ago, he condemned backers of gay marriage as amoral. Yet in his new long and challenging essay, Mr. Bottum argues, in effect, that he was wrong and that fellow conservative Catholics are misinterpreting their tradition, in particular Aquinas’s “natural law” theology.
Aquinas considered heterosexual, monogamous union the highest form of marriage, but Mr. Bottum believes that he was actually less interested in strict legal precepts than in an enchanted vision of the world — a vision that, Mr. Bottum now says, is better served by supporting same-sex marriage.
So Mr. Bottum’s change of heart is noteworthy. He makes several arguments. The first is pragmatic. Read more »
I was on Larry Williams’ The Huddle show last night with Josie Pagani.
Our topics were;
The America’s cup farce continues – clearly no amount of money makes these boats safe or easy to use, and it’s all about the rich boys and their toys.
Then we’ve got a smaller dairy company on the West Coast of the South Island caught up with having elevated nitrate levels in their milk powder. It’s not even a contamination scare as such – but they are at least fronting and talking about it. Unlike Fonterra’s bad PR job, they should take a leaf out of the book from these operators. Read more »
It looks like the UK will be the 14th country to legalise same-sex marriage.
The Queen is expected to be asked to give her approval to the Bill – one of the most radical pieces of social legislation of her reign – by the end of this week.
It opens the way for the first legally recognised same-sex weddings to take place in England and Wales by next summer and brings the centuries-old understanding of marriage as being solely between a man and a woman to an end.
Peers gave their assent to the third reading of the Government’s same-sex marriage bill without a formal vote after a short debate in the Lords, also backing plans for a review of pension arrangements for gay couples.
Unless MPs object to the bill at the eleventh hour during a short Commons debate set to take place on Tuesday, it is expected to receive royal assent within days. Read more »
Yesterday I blogged about the pommy bastards who will actually be bastards by 2016.
Now the explaining has started…and the debate for marriage equality has barely even started in the UK do the “filthy gays” can’t be blamed for the demise of marriage this time.
This week, the Office for National Statistics predicted that most children in 2016 will be born out of wedlock. In 2012, 47.5 per cent of births were such; in 1988 it was 25 per cent; in 1979, 11 per cent.
This is a huge cultural change within one lifetime (yours, mine, those children’s); such changes deserve sociological inspection. If we don’t measure outcomes, then we can’t know, in any proper sense, what’s happening. Read more »
Word is leaking out of a good old fashioned barney in the National Party’s leafy green electorate of Epsom.
At a meeting the other night, Paul Goldsmith was shredded by some of the long serving party members of Mt Eden and Epsom branch over his decision to support the marriage equality bill.
Clearly Goldsmith was on the right side of history, even if on the wrong side of heaven (as they see it)
Some of his strongest supporters in the local branch accused Goldsmith of completely failing them, betraying the values he was elected on. Others, post meeting, threatened to roll poor Paul at a selection next year or help Colin Craig and the Conservative Party. Read more »