Fools rush in where angels fear to tread: How low is the sexual abuse bar?


by Pete

Been giving this some thought.  Where is the bar set?   What do you define as sexual abuse?  Does it include verbal?  Leering?  Cat calls?

Let’s say it is physical.  Does it include a bum pinch?  An uncomfortable hug?

I’m not trying to trivialise it.  I can think of two occasions in my life I’ve had unwanted sexual attention.  Once physical, and once I was in a subordinate position and made to do something uncomfortable to me (not physical).

I can’t imagine ANY woman getting to the age of 40 who hasn’t been at the wrong end of someone at some stage.

But where do you draw the line?   How much is “just life” and what is really going too far? Read more »

Is it us versus them or are we more civilised than that?


According to research political debates can trigger the same parts of the brain as war. They claim that being affiliated to a political party is more like membership of a gang or clique.They also say that race is only noticed by our brains if it will help us predict which side of a political debate someone is on.

While I consider myself to belong to a group of people I would loosely call right wing I see it as a club rather than a gang and one that has very diverse beliefs and only a very general consensus within the ranks to use military terminology.On individual issues we are not all the same. One prime example that we have seen on this blog would be the Gay marriage debate.

My closest friend is a Green supporter and she and I can quite happily agree to disagree.When I read things in the Media or on other blogs that I believe to be ignorant or deliberately misleading I admit I do get a little upset but that I believe is not because of the alternative view but because I feel that it is not based on facts.

What do you think about the study? Does discussing politics or watching political debates make you angry?Do different opinions to yours here on WO make you angry? On other blogs? Do the researchers have a point?

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Rodney Hide on 3 Strikes

Rodney Hide writes in the NBR:

Some 135-plus New Zealanders are walking about today not bashed, beaten or worse, thanks to the Three Strikes legislation. It’s a good result.  Another 135 fewer people are in prison.  That too, is a good result.

The numbers aren’t mine but lawyer Graeme Edgeler’s, who, while opposing Three Strikes, nonetheless has the intellectual integrity to gather up the data and report that, yes, the law is having the hoped-for deterrent effect.

Three Strikes is a dramatic example of the economics of crime and punishment. Do would-be criminals weigh the costs and benefits of crime? Are they rational? Does the risk of being caught, convicted and the extent of expected punishment enter their decision-making?

Crime experts say No. Economists say Yes.

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Which version do you believe? Part ONE in the Nicky Hager series


Nicky Hager has been interviewed and quoted by many different people over the course of the Dirty Politics book launch. Now a year later after the dust has settled I decided to go back to compare what he said in one interview with what he said in another.

‘ They were leaked to me…the people who bowled over his website came away with thousands of communications….I’ve never received hacked material before….I can’t tell you who my sources are but I can tell you that I have NEVER accepted information from any political party or political person.’


This version says that there were multiple hackers and multiple sources who were not politically aligned.

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Hillary is getting ratf*cked before she can even get to the primaries


Between the gift that keeps on giving, her mail server, and the fact that she’s no longer able to ride on the afterglow of Bill’s easygoing smile, she’s slowly being ground down to an also-ran.

Truth Revolt reports:

So much for the sisterhood. More women view Hillary Clinton in a negative than positive light, according to the latest ABC News/Washington Post poll.

The poll found that among the general population, 53% viewed Clinton unfavorably compared to 45% that view her favorably. Among women the numbers were not much better.

Despite women being a core audience for the Democrats, just 48% of women said they viewed Clinton favorably compared to 51% of women that viewed her unfavorably. The poll also showed trouble for Clinton when it comes to younger voters, with 50% of voters aged 18-39 saying they had a negative view of Clinton compared to 47% with a positive view.

Women and younger voters are two groups that were key to Barack Obama’s election victories in 2008 and 2012.

The poll also looked at Republican candidates Donald Trump and Jeb Bush as well as Vice-President Joe Biden.

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Comment of the Day

From George, as is becoming usual:

I never thought I would say this, but the political cycle is becoming a bore. The mid term blues have taken root and the only activity is the manufactured crisis by the socialists. Recession pending, TPPA disaster, Health and Safety debacle; all a load of cobblers of course, and the political polls identify this.

A robust opposition is essential to keep a government on it’s toes but sadly we have an opposition that blames the government every time a state tenant gets a cold or as drama queen Phil Twyford screams, “Housing New Zealand must immediately move a Glen Innes family whose son contracted serious and potentially fatal health problems from the appalling condition of their state house”. I wasn’t aware that a house could be so irresponsible but to compensate, mum’s multiple professional tats were quite impressive. What is shocking though, is the National Government’s trained rat that nibbled on a child’s ear whilst asleep in its state house.

The problem is the opposition and the MSM are assuming that the average IQ of the populous runs parallel with that of their supporters and reporters. And that is why politics is so boring at this time. Only idiots are sucked in, and as a consequence, middle NZers, who desire more intellectual stimuli than this garbage, are feeling so irritated and ignored and the more enlightened seek facts through Whaleoil.

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Dimpost: “very few of our MPs actually understand politics”

We're winning I tell you, we're winning

We’re winning I tell you, we’re winning

Danyl McLauchlan nails it in his post about the woeful left.

A core problem we have on the left, I think, is that very few of our MPs actually understand politics. Of course it depends on how you define the term – if you expand it to include policy and ideology and political history and hating neoliberalism then yes, sure, they know about that stuff. But on the actual core challenge of influencing the public to achieve power they are mostly demonstrably clueless. Worse, they’re blind to their cluelessness. ‘Bad at politics?’ They would snort. ‘Aren’t they MPs? Haven’t they risen to that height through their own political genius? Doesn’t that, by definition, make them awesome at politics?’

Are New Zealand First backbenchers ‘awesome at politics’? They are not. The leader of their party is and he needs people to fill out the rest of his caucus and his backbenchers are really just a bunch of nobodies who’ve lucked into that slot. And an awful lot of Labour and Green MPs have done pretty much the same thing. They’ve used parties founded by or led by people with political acumen as vehicles for entry into Parliament, stayed there, some of them for decades, while evidently learning nothing. How many left-wing MPs have won a seat off National recently? How many have taken down a Minister? Won cross-party support for a bill? How many have even increased the party vote in their own electorate?   Read more »

Ron Mark – Conduct unbecoming – Swears in parliament

Remember this image…Ron Mark flipping the bird in parliament.


The man has form, and today in Question 5 he told a government member to “shut the fuck up”.

The man is a disgrace.


Awesome sledge of Russell Brand and Ed Miliband

Russell Brand is a twat, as is Ed Miliband, but the two of them got together for an interview.

Toby Young wasn’t impressed and posts an epic slamming at the Telegraph.

He summarises the interview:

I like to think that people will look at Russell Brand and Ed Miliband chatting away in Brand’s £2 million flat and see them for what they are – two privileged, middle-aged men cynically trying to whip up envy and resentment against “the one per cent”, even though they’re members of the one per cent themselves. I hope this will be the moment when the disconnect between what the left says and what it does will finally become too much. The cognitive dissonance will prove too great. Something will snap and Labour’s entire general election campaign will unravel. People will suddenly wake up to the fact that the emperor isn’t wearing any clothes.

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An insight into why Northland was lost

Most observers have struggled to pinpoint just precisely what went wrong in Northland.

I must confess to being flummoxed myself as well, that is until I read an article in the NY Times about the problems with modern political parties.

The article looks at the continuing demise of larger parties in Europe and Britain, and gives some insights to Labours problems here and also National’s problems.

Part of the reason for the decline is Socialism’s success, in the last century, in winning key protections for the working class, from trade unions to pensions and national health care, that are hard to finance in an aging population. But the right, which used to represent the landed and corporate rich and those who felt affinity to them, has suffered its own decline.

“Parties of the left, which used to be anchored in the working class, in the trade union movement and factories, are now increasingly dominated by public-sector employees and creative industries like the media,” Mr. Leonard said. “Parties of the right, which used to stand for the aspirational classes, are now more elitist and metrosexual. The countryside is disgusted by the metrosexual cosmopolitanism of the conservatives and the workers are disgusted by the new left.”

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