Seth Rogan sums up MSM involvement in publishing stolen e-mails

Seth Rogan

Seth Rogan

Actor Seth Rogen has blasted members of the media for publishing email messages stolen during a hack attack on Sony Pictures’ databases last month.

He told US radio host Howard Stern: “It’s stolen information… I think it’s f***** up that anyone is talking about it. And I’m OK talking about my s**t, honestly, because I don’t f****** care that much, and the stuff that was stolen from me on the grand scale of s*** is not that bad, but it’s f****** stolen. I do think it’s f***** up that everyone is doing exactly what these criminals want…

“All of this information would literally just be sitting on some obscure corner of the internet if it wasn’t for these news articles exposing the information…

“I can’t believe people are just so happy be like, ‘Look at this stolen information. Hey, let’s f****** read it.’ (The email authors) are not doing anything illegal. They’re not trying to fool you as the consumer. They’re having private correspondence with one another.”

Since the cyberattack, the group calling themselves Guardians of Peace have released stolen files featuring celebrities’ salaries, personal information, upcoming movies such as Annie and a wealth of emails, which have publicly embarrassed or landed some Hollywood execs in hot water.

The hackers have since escalated threats, referencing the 9/11 attack in their latest chilling message, which warns people off going to see Rogen’s latest film The Interview at cinemas (the Department of Homeland Security says it hasn’t found any evidence to suggest there is an active plot against US movie theatres).

The Interview, about a TV presenter and a sidekick who set out on a mission to assassinate North Korean leader Kim Jong-un, has angered North Korea, who called it an “act of war”.


Seth expresses with a lot more swear words than me my sentiments exactly. No criminal activity was exposed by the hackers criminal activity. Sony has done nothing illegal. All that has been exposed was private correspondence that no one has the right to see. The only reason the information can be used to blackmail and threaten Sony is because the Media are prepared to use the stolen information that they have no right to use.

I am sick to death of the old ‘ public interest defence.’ When it comes to the famous, the public are interested in every detail about them. There is nothing, no matter how private or personal that they would not want to know, therefore nothing is protected, nothing!

We foolishly thought that the MSM at least would limit themselves to communications involving politics when our stolen information was given to them. The day Rachel Smalley spoke on NewstalkZB about a conversation between Cam and an upset friend with relationship problems, the ‘ lardo heifer’ had the gall to not only talk about it, but to attack them for what they said about women! We realised then that there was no line that the MSM would not cross.



Blaming the victim is still in vogue

You would think that if your home was broken in to these holidays and your stuff stolen and then sold, you would be safe to lay the blame squarely at the feet of those who broke into your home and those who then sold your stuff and pocketed the money.

You would be wrong.

In the upside down world of media ethics these days it is actually the victim’s fault but only if the theft is hacking. Some how when the theft is online and the fence who benefits financially is the MSM it is actually your fault. Interestingly,the writer can only come up with one solution to protecting yourself. Forget about using e-mail contraception, the only real protection available is not to have online intercourse at all. A solution that is as ridiculous as it is impractical.

Just like the people who condemned the girl for getting pregnant ( It wouldn’t have happened if you had kept your legs shut) those who get hacked and their lives dissected by the Media for profit should have stepped away from the keyboard.


Angelina Jolie and Leonardo DiCaprio were among the targets of Sony executives. Photos / AP
Angelina Jolie and Leonardo DiCaprio were among the targets of Sony executives. Photos / AP

There is a lesson for us all in the continuing revelations from stolen Sony emails being splashed over worldwide media. It is a lesson that Sony Pictures Entertainment co-chairwoman Amy Pascal could have benefited from before sending emails with racist comments about President Obama. Or an email calling Leonardo DiCaprio’s behaviour “absolutely despicable” when he decided to pull out of a planned Steve Jobs biopic.

The lesson is a very simple one. It is that when you are writing an email (or any other corporate document), imagine that it will inevitably one day end up on the internet for everyone to see…

The emails of Amy Pascal and other Sony Pictures’ executives reveal damaging internal discussions about business practices and commentary on a wide range of people – including Angelina Jolie – that the company relies on to do their business.

It is hard to imagine how those involved can retain their credibility as more of the emails become public.

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Australian Media versus New Zealand Media

A number of Whaleoil commenters voiced what I was thinking during the hostage crisis in Australia.

Would our Media work with the Police and put the interests of the hostages ahead of their interest in a scoop?

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An email from a reader – Plus ca change, plus c’est la meme chose

I love my readers…all of them.

Sometimes they email…I try to answer them, some I ignore and the best get published.

Here is a superb email I received late last night.


Cam , I’m probably on of the folks that read your website regularly but don’t post to it, I have sent a couple of emails though. It’s increasingly clear that some form of well orchestrated crusade against WOBH is under way. Tui’s/No bull, you might say – it’s been going since way before the election. The theme adopted by the perps is to attack JK and yourself using any means possible – and without paying lip service or reference to facts, indeed trying to dictate who can speak to you even though you have done nothing wrong. Would be interesting to apply that same diktat to the opposition, but then again they are held to a different Standard.

While vacuuming on Sunday morning, I happened to catch Q + A. Then for some unknown reason watched The Nation. (I know – a sucker for punishment; much like firing staples into my fingers again and again) Sick of that, I switched to National Radio. Another mistake.   Read more »

From the passenger seat: How to slay Slater?

By Pete

You can’t turn on the radio, TV or read news stories without being bombarded with negatives about Cameron Slater.  The very Cameron Slater who has come out, legally, squeaky clean out of Government Inquiries, and is facing not a single charge in court for breaking any laws.  Nor is he charged, or under investigation by police.

It is no wonder that there is a full court press from Labour.  Not only are they implicitly scared of him and his abilities, they also know that a black cloud is forming over them, and their associates.  They failed to take him down the first time, and now, they are all out to do a job that they failed to do a few months ago.

What may be odd is that the media are now all after Cam Slater as well.  They are assisting Labour in trying to paint Slater as some kind of evil to New Zealand.   But what is it that he actually does?

He runs a blog.

Surely that can’t be it?   Should someone with a web site, that nobody is forced to visit, be so feared and vilified?

The media have other motivations, the least of which is that they have been, and still are, working closely with Cam when it suits them, but at the same time, they are trying to make it look like he’s one of the most evil people in the country.

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New report proves our media are comprehensively left wing

A new report and survey of journalists in New Zealand confirms what everyone has known for sometime. [Full report embedded below]

There is an inherent and embedded left wing bias in our media.

We asked respondents to rate their political stance on an 11-point scale, with 1 being strongly left-wing, 6 being the centre and 11 being strongly rightwing.

Journalists generally regarded themselves as moderately left-wing.

Sixty-two per cent of respondents rated themselves as somewhere on the left of the political spectrum, 22 per cent placed themselves in the centre and 16 per cent rated themselves somewhere on the right. The mean rating was 5.0, with a standard deviation of 2.0.

Statistical tests revealed no significant relationship between political views and job position.

By contrast, the New Zealand voting population is generally right of centre.

In the 2014 general election, a total of 52 per cent of voters voted for one of the three unambiguously right-of-centre parties: National, Act or Conservative (New Zealand Electoral Commission, 2014).

Wonder no more at left wing bias in our media.

It is now proven.

You have to wonder at the decision making skills of the editors and management though that they left their news outlets promulgate this left wing bias in clear contradiction of their customers own beliefs.

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The most dangerous game

One of my favourite short stories as a teenager was called The Most Dangerous Game

The final few sentences at the end of the book were particularly memorable…

A man, who had been hiding in the curtains of the bed, was standing there.

“Rainsford!” screamed the general. “How in God’s name did you get here?”

“Swam,” said Rainsford. “I found it quicker than walking through the

The general sucked in his breath and smiled. “I congratulate you,” he
said. “You have won the game.”

Rainsford did not smile. “I am still a beast at bay,” he said, in a low,
hoarse voice. “Get ready, General Zaroff.”

The general made one of his deepest bows. “I see,” he said. “Splendid!
One of us is to furnish a repast for the hounds. The other will sleep in
this very excellent bed. On guard, Rainsford.” . . .

He had never slept in a better bed, Rainsford decided.

– Richard Connell (1893-1949)



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How long before the UK technique of entrapping politicians makes it here?

After Nicky Hager and his enablers in the mainstream media brought News of The World hacking style tactics to New Zealand media, ti surely can’t be far off from them adopting the UK technique of entrapping politicians.

A Tory MP caught up in an internet sex scandal is to quit the Commons – after a second woman revealed he had sent her explicit personal pictures.

In the latest blow to David Cameron after Thursday’s stunning Ukip by-election victory in Clacton, Brooks Newmark last night said that he will step down at the next Election.

His announcement comes a fortnight after he was revealed to have sent explicit photos of himself to a male reporter posing as a woman.

Not even the Police can act like that.

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Yesterday’s papers

Newspapers continue to decline.

Who wants yesterday’s papers?, the Rolling Stones asked in 1967, and the question is still valid.

It seems the answer is “nobody in the world”.

Clay Shirky writes about the ongoing demise.

Journalists have been infantilized throughout the last decade, kept in a state of relative ignorance about the firms that employ them. A friend tells a story of reporters being asked the paid print circulation of their own publication. Their guesses ranged from 150,000 to 300,000; the actual figure was 35,000. If a reporter was that uninformed about a business he was covering, he’d be taken off the story.

This cluelessness is not by accident; the people who understand the state of the business often hide that knowledge from the workers. My friend Jay Rosen writes about the media’s “production of innocence” — when covering a contentious issue, they must signal to the readers “We have no idea who’s right.” Among the small pool of journalists reporting on their own industry, there is a related task, the production of ignorance. When the press writes about the current dislocations, they must insist that no one knows what will happen. This pattern shows up whenever the media covers itself. When the Tribune Company recently got rid of their newspapers, the New York Timesran the story under a headline “The Tribune Company’s publishing unit is being spun off, as the future of print remains unclear.”

The future of print remains what? Try to imagine a world where the future of print is unclear: Maybe 25 year olds will start demanding news from yesterday, delivered in an unshareable format once a day. Perhaps advertisers will decide “Click to buy” is for wimps. Mobile phones: could be a fad. After all, anything could happen with print. Hard to tell, really.

Meanwhile, back in the treasurer’s office, have a look at this chart. Do you see anything unclear about the trend line?


Contrary to the contrived ignorance of media reporters, the future of the daily newspaper is one of the few certainties in the current landscape: Most of them are going away, in this decade. (If you work at a paper and you don’t know what’s happened to your own circulation or revenue in the last few years, now might be a good time to ask.) We’re late enough in the process that we can even predict the likely circumstance of its demise.

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I wonder if the Herald is re-thinking their new hire Matt Nippert?

Fairfax published this article…read it and wonder what planet Matt Nippert is on and then realise that they pre-wrote it on an assumption that Hone Harawira was going to win.

Like Martyn Bradbury he was dead wrong.

I hope the NZ Herald enjoys their new hire for the Investigations department, seems he is as adept as David Fisher on taking dictation.

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