Social Liberalism has Polygamy in its sights

Whenever we make a substantial change in our laws people talk about a slippery slope. When abortion was first legalised they said it was a slippery slope and that not only would we end up with abortion on demand but that we would end up having late term abortions. They were right. Now a Social Liberal has pointed out that by winning for Gays the right to be married we have dismantled all the arguments that previously could be used against Polygamy. Fredrik deBoer says that we are now on a slippery slope and society is heading straight for Polygamous marriage.



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Anyone who wants more than one mother-in-law deserves them

The slippery slope arguments have started in the US, where there are claims that there will be attempts to legalise polygamy because now same-sex marriage is legal, that is the next step.

Welcome to the exciting new world of the slippery slope. With the Supreme Court’s landmark ruling this Friday legalizing same sex marriage in all 50 states, social liberalism has achieved one of its central goals. A right seemingly unthinkable two decades ago has now been broadly applied to a whole new class of citizens. Following on the rejection of interracial marriage bans in the 20th Century, the Supreme Court decision clearly shows that marriage should be a broadly applicable right—one that forces the government to recognize, as Friday’s decision said, a private couple’s “love, fidelity, devotion, sacrifice and family.”

The question presents itself: Where does the next advance come? The answer is going to make nearly everyone uncomfortable: Now that we’ve defined that love and devotion and family isn’t driven by gender alone, why should it be limited to just two individuals? The most natural advance next for marriage lies in legalized polygamy—yet many of the same people who pressed for marriage equality for gay couples oppose it.

This is not an abstract issue. In Chief Justice John Roberts’ dissenting opinion, he remarks, “It is striking how much of the majority’s reasoning would apply with equal force to the claim of a fundamental right to plural marriage.” As is often the case with critics of polygamy, he neglects to mention why this is a fate to be feared. Polygamy today stands as a taboo just as strong as same-sex marriage was several decades ago—it’s effectively only discussed as outdated jokes about Utah and Mormons, who banned the practice over 120 years ago.

Yet the moral reasoning behind society’s rejection of polygamy remains just as uncomfortable and legally weak as same-sex marriage opposition was until recently.

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Are Muslim mothers in law nicer?

A married Premier League footballer has been caught out marrying a second woman in his native Ivory Coast – to the fury of his mistress.

Cheick Tiote, who earns £45,000 a week playing for Newcastle United, reportedly wed Laeticia Doukrou in a traditional ceremony this month, despite already being married to first wife Madah, 25.

The 28-year-old midfielder lives with Madah and their two children in a £1.5million mansion in Ponteland near Newcastle.

But he also has a one-year-old child with mistress Nikki Mpofu, who was furious when she discovered he had married for a second time, it was said.

The 33-year-old Zimbabwean ended her three-year affair with the footballer, claiming he had promised to make her his wife

She reportedly told a friend: ‘He met my mum and said he’s permitted to have several wives. I was comfortable with that.

‘He’s used me like a mop.  He’s just a pig.’

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Anyone silly enough to want more than one mother in law deserves them


Polygamy may well be part of the slippery slope that comes from legalising gay marriage…but my view remains that anyone silly enough to want more than one mother in laws deserves them.

The New York Times looks at polygamy and reality TV.

Kody Brown, his four wives and 17 children want to be the new face of polygamy, what some consider the next frontier after same-sex marriage.

That is why, the Browns say, they invited TLC television cameras into their homes for their reality show “Sister Wives,” why they have written a best-selling book about their lives, and why they challenged Utah’s polygamy ban in federal court.

Fear of prosecution under that law led them to flee to Nevada. Last month, a federal judge partly overturned the ban, ruling that prohibiting “cohabitation” violates the First Amendment guarantee of free exercise of religion.  Read more »


Guy who wanted two mothers in law busted via Facebook

My position on bigamy is the same as my position on gay marriage, but double. If anyone wants a mother in law then they should be able to suffer like everyone else. In the case of bigamists or polygamists the suffering is multiplied…but each to  their own.

However at the moment it is illegal, so posting your second marriage on Facebook isn’t advisable…it is just plain stupid.

A bigamist was unmasked by his first wife after she discovered photographs of his second wedding on Facebook, a court heard.

Anne-Marie Sim hired investigators to track down husband Brian Frain, 36, after they had separated, because she wanted a divorce so she could re-marry.

More than 10 years on from their wedding in Dukinfield, Greater Manchester, she saw wedding pictures of his marriage to Louise Meredith, which took place in the same register office where they had tied the knot.

David Curtis, prosecuting at Tameside magistrates’ court, said: “Due to the amount of time that had passed, Mr Frain assumed that he was no longer married to her. He did not inform the registry office and took no legal advice.”   Read more »

The case for polygamy

It is simple and can be summarised in one line. Bob McCoskrie was way too complicated when he outlined Family Forst’s support for polygamy.

This is it.

“Anyone stupid enough to want more than one mother in law deserves all they can get.”  Read more »

Family First – “there’s a more justified argument for polygamy than for same-sex marriage”

Looks like Family First is making a play for “Bigger” families with their claim that “there’s a more justified argument for polygamy than for same-sex marriage – as a natural institution.”

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The slippery slope for Bob McCoskrie, Andrei and Lucia already happened

Bob McCoskrie and other who oppose marriage equality always run out the “but, but, but….gay marriage will lead to polygamy” line. My smart arsed line is always the same…so what…if you support families then surely you support really BIG families…and any bloke who wants more than one mother in law is doing us all a favour.

However, jokes aside…let’s look at history…Craig Young has, at GayNZ:

Family First is once more ruminating hypocritically about the alleged “relationship” between same-sex monogamous marriage and polygamy. It’s time someone told Mr McCoskrie that some of us are aware of Christianity’s own polygamist past.

It goes all the way back to the sixteenth century and Martin Luther, the very founder of Protestant Christianity himself- and an advocate of polygamy. What?!! Yes, that is correct. Luther believed that polygamous marriages were preferable to extramarital sex (or ‘fornication’) or adultery. Indeed, Luther and Phillip Melancthon, another early Lutheran theologian and pivotal figure, advocated that Phillip, Landgrave of Hesse (a German principality within the Holy Roman Empire) covertly and bigamously marry two women- Christine of Saxony, an invalid and alcoholic, and one of her ladies-in-waiting, Margarethe van der Saale. However, it doesn’t end there. Instead of divorcing Catherine of Aragon, his first wife, Melanchthon also advised future serial monogamist Henry VIII to bigamously marry Anne Boleyn. Henry didn’t take his advice, divorced Catherine instead and monogamously remarried Anne, future mother of Elizabeth I of England.  Read more »

Slippery Slope argument of Family Fist destroyed with facts

The other day Family First and Bob McCoskrie made claims that if we allowed ‘gay marriage’ then the next thing that would be lobbied for would be polygamy and polyamorous relationships.

They claim this is the slippery slope, despite the slippery slope not existing anywhere in the world.

The MP behind a law change to legalise gay marriage has slammed the “dishonest” argument by opponents that her bill will pave the way to polygamous relationships.

Labour Party MP Louisa Wall said she was frustrated by the more extreme arguments against her bill, which had prompted her to release research showing that no country had legalised polygamous relationships after legalising gay marriage.

Ms Wall said the argument that allowing same-sex marriage would be a stepping stone to multiple partners was undermining an otherwise civilised and principled debate.

“Everyone has built an opposition based on a belief or a value … but for some to purposefully mislead not only the public, but to also scaremonger, is fundamentally dishonest,” she said.

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Family Fist pulls out the polygamy card

Bob McCoskrie is running the old “gay marriage leads to polygamy” line…despite no evidence of it ever have done so in the world…anywhere.

Family First national director Bob McCoskrie says the push for same-sex marriage in New Zealand is a stepping-stone to legalising polygamy.

Mr McCoskrie said a new poll by Key Research that showed 53.9 per cent of respondents supported gay marriage was an indicator that fewer people were in favour of marriage reform compared to a year ago.

He said the number had dropped from 63 per cent in a May poll, as people “got past the slogan of “marriage equality’ and debated the real impact of redefining marriage”.

“There is absolutely no need to redefine marriage to provide legal recognition and protection for same-sex relationships,” he said.

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