The Standard

Let’s have a peek at moderation quality elsewhere

I have put together a snapshot of comments made on New Zealand political blogs, MSM websites and one Facebook page. These are the kind of comments that would be moderated out of our blog as they contain foul language. If a blog or media outlet cannot afford to have a full-time moderator they can automatically prevent comments from going live if they contain any foul language. Disqus offers this feature. Admittedly, automatic moderation is more difficult on Facebook pages but the National party managed to work out how to do it on their Facebook page so we know it can be done.

Is it unrealistic to expect high standards from social media if it is affiliated with a professional media organisation? More to the point, should other New Zealand political blogs moderate out foul language, given that it is very easy to do so automatically using a comments system like Disqus?

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The misogyny and nastiness of the left exposed again

Andrew Little has victim blamed for the increasing tone of political violence:

Labour leader Andrew Little said the threats against ministers were “ugly” and “had no place” in New Zealand’s political debate.

It was “hard to gauge” whether treatment of MPs was getting worse, he said. But he had observed a “palpable sense of anger” from voters which was not present a year ago.

“I think there is a lot of frustration and anger. People see a Government that looks increasingly arrogant, it’s smug and out of touch… and they are feeling frustrated.”

As you can see he thinks it is all Paula Bennett’s fault…and the rest of the National government.

When leaders set the tone like that then it doesn’t take long for supporters to follow suit.   Read more »

“Dirty tricks and dirty politics in Dunedin South” – Clare Curran

Oh this is delicious.  Labour MP Clare Curran is accusing The Standard author Tat Loo of playing “dirty politics”.

Richard Harman reports

The Anderson’s bay branch of the [Labour] party has said it is going into recess.

Its organiser, Tat Loo, who writes under the pseudonym “Colonel Viper’ on the left wing blog site, “The Standard”. Said “Labour as an organization is failing ordinary Kiwis both locally in Dunedin and centrally in Wellington on many different levels and it shows every sign of continuing on that track.

“We want no part of propping up the Thorndon Bubble careerist ‘pretend and extend’ set any further and will be moving on to new political projects.”

But party president, Nigel Haworth, said the move was “really quite inconsequential”.

He said it was a minor perturbation.

“It’s certainly nothing to lose any sleep over at all.”

There are major sections of the left, a lot of them frequent lefty blogs, that believe a Corbyn-like shift to the left is the only way for Labour to regain its integrity and to take back the treasury benches.

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Someone on the Standard gets it

The Standard has had a crack about “Dodgy Unions“.

They mostly miss the point but one commenter, My good friend and sock puppet Mike Bond, gets it.

I am not surprised to read these comments here. Lets all take a shot at Slater! But if we must be honest, is it not really the truth what he is saying? We allow the unions to have a say who is going to be Labours leader and I assume they do have an influence over the direction the party moves in. Why then do they not finance more of the party?

The Standard has attacked Dodgy Unions, shooting the messenger and not even bothering with the message.    Read more »

Left Wing Blogs don’t do Dirty Politics do they?

One of the biggest scams in the Dirty Politics book was its claim that only National works with bloggers.

Nicky Hager even went as far as to say that there is no left wing equivalent of Whaleoil. It is certainly true  that no Left wing blog is as well read or as popular as Whaleoil but the statement that only National work with bloggers is pure fantasy.

I do not have access to behind the scenes communications as I do not work with criminal hackers like Nicky Hager did but a quick search of both The Standard and The Daily Blog revealed the following:

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The delusions of the left

This is the headline at The Standard:

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Labour have been running that line since…well…forever.

Helen Clark ran it as she tried to create the premise that Labour was the natural party of government and Kings (or Queens) of MMP…until she found out one cold wet rainy night in 2008 that they weren’t and National did indeed have coalition partners.

At various times Labour and their proxies have made this claim. When ACT goes through its troubles…National losing its coalition partners. Any time there is a tiff with the Maori party…coalition partners for National looking thin.

And yet here we are after 2008, 2011, and 2014 election wins, all with coalition partners.   Read more »

Criminal conspiricist party to hacking jailed

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Rawshark?

I have to admit, it’s not a headline I expect to see relating to our media and its accomplices.  But I truly can’t see the difference between the News of the World hacking/media involvement, and the Political parties/Rawshark/Whaledump/Media involvement here.

A former News of the World news editor has been jailed for eight months after admitting involvement in phone hacking at Rupert Murdoch’s now defunct tabloid newspaper.

Ian Edmondson had been a defendant in the trial of former News of the World editors Andy Coulson and Rebekah Brooks, but was excused due to ill health.

Before he could stand trial again, Edmondson pleaded guilty last month to conspiring to hack the phones of a host of public figures between October 2000 and August 2006.

Notice that he didn’t do the hacking himself.  In that sense, Rawshark may even get away with it.  But he was found guilty of conspiracy.   Now that, my dear readers, casts a wide net here in New Zealand when you look through the cast list behind Dirty Politics. Read more »

The left are either quitting, running away or being told to stop

Dimpost’s Danyl seems to be the latest one that’s down in the dumps

I’m not saying I’m taking a break from blogging, exactly, because every time I do that something really interesting happens that I want to blog about and I look like a doofus. But I’m taking a break from blogging unless something interesting happens.

Partly because this is because I’m busy with other stuff. But I’m also feeling despondent about left-wing politics: Labour is a horrible mess and looks to remain one, and the Greens couldn’t capitalise on Labour’s failure and grow their vote. It’s depressing.

This might sound solipsistic but I feel like some of the left’s problems stem from over-engagement with social-media. If you’re listening to and engaging with a cacophony of voices online it’s easy to lose touch with the silent but demographically much, much larger section of the population that aren’t commenting via blogs or twitter etc, and have very different priorities and concerns. So I’m part of the problem!

Ok, so you learned that the Internet isn’t the same as the real world.  That’s a lesson learned.  But you don’t give up.  Yes, I know, you’re not giving up per se, but you’ve lost the energy.

I’ll tell you this much, I couldn’t lose this election.  Either I got the government I wanted, or I got the government I wanted to blog about.   Chin up – there’s work to be done!   Read more »

Clayton knows what’s coming…

Independent MP Clayton Cosgrove knows that the Dirty Politics story is far from over.  He’s trying to cauterise some wounds…

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Clayton, I think the left blogs are to do whatever they like.  They are the left’s best advertisement for everything that puts people off about left politics.  Leave them be.  Also:  what’s with Labour trying to shut people up?  Stop it already.

I realise there is some bad news heading Labour’s way, and it is better if there is no backsplatter from the the blogs.  I understand that.  But it isn’t solved by trying to make them shut down.

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OK, you’ve had your fun. What about law, enforcement, and common sense?

Dirty politics exists.  On all sides.  Instead of everyone being “shocked” and nauseated enough to need a barf bag, everyone should have just gone “yeah?  so what?”.  Surely there is no revelation that political parties have ways to communicate information about themselves and others that aren’t at the level of a formal press release?

Every journalist worth their meager salary will have contacts throughout society that will do anything from whisper little bits of information to receive heavy dossiers or digital storage with information on it.

But things are different when that information has been obtained through burglary and breaking computer security through deliberately trying to find a way in (hacking).

The first is a sleazy way for information to be passed around.   The second, is illegal.   Why is nobody interested in the difference?

I have watched with interest the furore and posturing arising from the Dirty Politics book.

It sickens me to see lots of politicians jumping on the band wagon and ignoring the rule of law. All parties seem to take it as read that it is OK to publish what is essentially personal and private information.

It is not public domain data.

Nobody seems to be addressing the issue of the legality of the stealing and the use of that data. Why does every commentator seem to think these actions are OK, or at least somehow not illegal?

I have just returned from the UK where journalists and others have recently been jailed for hacking the private phones of celebrities and other VIPs. One person was even low enough to hack the phone of a child who had been abducted and murdered. Read more »