GenericUsernam101 commented on the post about rare earth metals in Mongolia:
One of the most annoying “green initiatives” to me is the recycling of paper and cardboard. Ask anyone including greenies why they do it and you get a blank stare, and then a faint “because recycling is good”. Challenge them on it, and you get “because it stops trees being chopped down, and saves our native forests”.
Well, for one, recycling costs more and uses more pollutants than creating the same paper products from scratch. Very aggressive chemicals must be used in breaking down the old paper and removing inks/glues etc, before re-casting it. They will tell you that they are on top of this, and recycling is almost as polluting now as starting from new, woohoo. They are forgetting all the fossil fuels used in collecting the recyclables.
But all of that is irrelevant anyway, because the real issue is that since recycling of paper and cardboard started, the pine forests of New Zealand have been reduced by around 30% in size, since the forests, which were planted to provide pulp and paper, are no longer needed. Yes, recycling does not save trees, it destroys forests! Oh and greenies, nobody cuts native trees to make paper, you figure the economics of that out.
Not only that, but the forests, like the Kaingaroa, that have been cut down solely as a result of recycling, by around 25-30%, have been reclaimed back by dairying, from whence they came, before they were planted to make paper. So now greenies, there are less forests, and more of what you hate more, cows producing fart-gas and effluent (their opinion, not mine). Read more »