Listen to the people who may have been involved in shooting down MH17 looking for anything that can justify the mistake in military terms…
A Malaysian Airlines passenger plane has been shot down on the Russian-Ukraine border, killing all 295 people on board, according to a Ukrainian interior ministry official.
Flight MH17, which was carrying 280 passengers and 15 crew, was flying between Amsterdam and Kuala Lumpur after taking off at lunchtime today.
Read our earlier live reports here. ¬†It contains¬†a lot¬†of background information, some of it superseded, but most of it still useful.
LIVE UPDATING CLOSED. ¬†Any further major updates will happen via their own posts, minor updates via Daily Roundup and or the general debate posts.
Phone call transcript via Kyiv Post
Igor Bezler: We have just shot down a plane. Group Minera. It fell down beyond Yenakievo (Donetsk Oblast).
Vasili Geranin: Pilots. Where are the pilots?
IB: Gone to search for and photograph the plane. It’s smoking.
VG: How many minutes ago?
IB: About 30 minutes ago.
Second call (approx 40 minutes later) ¬† Read more »
UPDATED ¬†(LIVE REPORTING CONTINUES HERE)
An Air New Zealand spokeswoman says the airline does¬†not operate any routes that fly over Ukraine, nor does it have a passenger sharing arrangement with airlines that do.
More of a “no news’ update: ¬†MFaT still unable to comment on New Zealand passenger numbers on MH17.
Schiphol reports: 154 Dutch; 27 Australian; 23 Malaysia; 11 Indonesia; 6 UK; 4 Germany; 4 Belgium; 3 Philippines; 1 Canada; 47 unknown. ¬†All 15 crew members were Malaysian.
Press conference in The Netherlands from Shiphol.
Press conference audio
Passengers are from Netherlands with 143 passengers. Australia comes in second with 27 passengers.¬†There were 11 Indonesian passengers and one infant on-board the ill-fated flight. Britain has six passengers, France and Germany have four each, Belgium have three and Canada one.¬†Nationalities of the other 58 passengers were not stated in the list.¬†
UNCONFIRMED ¬†–¬†Nationalities Passenger details Netherlands 143 Australian 27 Malaysian 20 (including 2 infants) Indonesian 11 (including 1 infant) Read more »
It looks like the royal protocol people that have to mop up after Phil the Greek are going to have to their work cut out with King Charles.
In an unguarded comment about the Russian President‚Äôs actions in the Ukraine, the Prince of Wales told a woman who had lost relatives in the Nazi Holocaust: ‚ÄúAnd now Putin is doing just about the same as Hitler,‚ÄĚ the¬†Daily Mail reported.
The Prince‚Äôs comment could potentially be seen as criticism of the West for failing to confront Mr Putin over his seizure of Crimea. The annexation was a first by a major power in Europe since 1945.
Commentators have likened Russia’s handing of the Ukraine crisis to Hitler‚Äôs takeovers of Poland and Czechoslovakia and have criticised Mr Putin’s use of special forces in disguise to stir up tension in disputed areas.
The Prince of Wales, who is due to meet Mr Putin at the D-Day commemorations in France on June 6, made his well-intentioned but unguarded comment during a visit to the Canadian Museum of Immigration in Halifax, Nova Scotia, the Mail said.
Compare this to David Parker holding his breath and turning red for getting his ass handed to him by Bill English. ¬†How would he survive here:
Perhaps the next step in Tau Henare’s colourful political career spanning many parties is that he’s going to join the Ukranian parliament? ¬†It appears they have a need for his pugilistic skill set.
What started as a time sensitive reference to Game of Thrones, Labour’s tweet pushing their North Korean power solution has backfired somewhat.
‚ÄĒ New Zealand Labour (@nzlabour) April 7, 2014
Sp Labour couldn’t be bothered finding a Kiwi image, or use one from w Kiwi photographer and instead nicked a photo from an offshore photographer hoping they wouldn’t get sprung.
Then again why should we be surprised when they get their IT policy dictated to them by Kim Dotcom.¬† Read more »
The Russians have nicked the Ukraine’s secret combat dolphins.
The Ukrainian military is promising to one day reclaim its¬†former¬†bases in Crimea, but one unit has been lost forever: Ukraine’s combat dolphins, who are now swimming for Russia.
The dolphins, stationed in a Ukrainian navy oceanarium in Sevastopol, will now attack enemy scuba divers, attach buoys to sea-floor mines, and patrol open waters at the behest of Moscow,¬†according¬†to Russian news service RIA Novosti. The program had been set to shut down, but Russia’s invasion of Ukraine has apparently given Sevastopol’s combat dolphins another crack at navy life. “Our experts have developed new devices, which convert the detection of objects by the dolphins’ underwater sonar to a signal on an operator’s monitor,” an oceanarium employee told the news service in an overt attempt to curry favor with his new bosses. “But the Ukrainian navy lacked the funds for such know-how, and some projects had to be shuttered.”¬† Read more »
In an eerily similar case of ¬†political activism a Darth Vader who is standing for the “Internet Party” is running for office in the Ukraine.
I’m sure Kim Dotcom will have something to say about the claims of their leader:
Founded and led by Dmytro (or Dmitry) Golubov the party claims to be the first¬†Internet party¬†in the world, its slogan is “electronic government against bureaucracy” and it wants to “create an electronic government in Ukraine”.
In 2006-2007, the party began to create by the alleged Ukrainian¬†hacker, Dmytro Golubov. The founding congress was held on October 1, 2007. On March 1, 2009 in a hotel complex “Magnolia” in Odessa, was held the first official congress of the party.
Oh dear looks like Kim Dotcom has ripped off another idea and touting it as his own.
As Ukraine battles to stave off dark forces of its own, iconic movie villain Darth Vader announced he was running for president in a bid to restore all glory to the downtrodden nation.
The Sith Lord, or at least an unnamed protester dressed up as him who has often been seen on Kiev’s Independence Square during the winter protests flanked by his loyal Stormtroopers, has been chosen as the official candidate of the Ukrainian Internet Party (UIP) which has become known for its theatrical public stunts.¬† Read more »
Ukraine’s future continues to hang in the balance as Russia continues to mass troops on Ukraine’s border and their annexation of the Crimea continues.
United States officials have reported that there are currently up to¬†40,000 Russian troops¬†on Ukraine‚Äôs east border and that Russia could still invade Ukraine.
Though there is no consensus on the exact number of troops on the border, on March 27th, Rep. Michael Turner (R-OH)¬†said¬†there were 80,000 troops on the border, and other sources told FOX News that more than 50,000 troops arrived in the last few days.¬† Read more »