This is what I heard from that interview on RNZ this morning.
You had to laugh that at the very start he called his interviewer Niall (when it was ‘Todd’ Niall). It started the way it continued.
Defensive and incomprehensible.
It seems when he’s under pressure David Shearer gets his host’s names wrong.
From this morning
“Good morning Niall… … Todd”
The interview with Larry Williams on his confused position on the POAL dispute…
“Gidday William, um, ah Larry sorry.”
Shearer is under pressure. He has gone large on nothing more than a bit of pillow-talk and his caucus have left him hanging out to dry.