Three Strikes Deal Done

National and Act have just announced their agreement to implement the 3 strikes law.

Agreement on the policy, which will be incorporated into the Sentencing and Parole Reform Bill, was announced by the Prime Minister John Key, ACT Leader Rodney Hide and Police and Corrections Minister Judith Collins today.

The new regime will uphold the Government’s election pledge to remove eligibility for parole for the worst repeat violent offenders, and incorporate significant aspects of ACT’s three-strikes policy.

Under the regime, an offender will receive a standard sentence and warning for the first serious offence.  For the second offence they will get a jail term (in most cases) with no parole and a further warning.  On conviction for their third serious offence, the offender will receive the maximum penalty in prison for that offence with no parole.

Good, time for us to put some people behind bars for a very long time.

In the revised Bill each strike will be based on an offender receiving a conviction for a qualifying offence. In the Bill as introduced, the threshold was a sentence of five years or more for a qualifying offence.

On their third strike offenders will get the maximum sentence for the offence rather than a life sentence with a minimum period of imprisonment of 25 years as originally proposed.

As a general rule, the list of qualifying offences comprises all the major violence and sexual offences with a maximum penalty of seven years’ prison or more.

The really interesting thing is that it was “Crusher” Collins at the press conference announcing this law and she is going to be the Minister implementing it. Normally this is the purview of the Minister of Justice, but Simon “FIGJAM” Power must have annoyed too many people to be trusted with this key piece of legislation. At least we know that “Crusher” will deliver, everything she has promised so far has manifested itself under her guiding hand, this law will be no different.

This is also a significant policy win for ACT and Rodney Hide can justifiably be proud of the impact his party is having on the government. The response from Labour will be interesting. Phil Goff would privately support this, but could he carry his caucus to supporting it. I seriously doubt he can do that.

Batter up I say.


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  • Graeme

    About time, the courts and government have been too soft on repeat offenders.

  • Its about time… there are far too many repeat violent offenders on the streets just doing as they like without any major consequences. Hopefully this new Act will keep these oxygen thieves off the streets and keep them in prison where they belong.

  • Steve

    Batter up, play ball.
    Can't come soon enough, bring it on ASAP


    Funny about this act ,read a book non fiction9 jack reacher) or what, in the states 3 strikes and you die in prison,Think, people they kill you to avoid a prison term,,if you were hungry and stole and a old biddy saw you, you would kill her to avoid a 40 year term. its a act knee jerk to stay in view, made to make the herd happy

  • Jason

    This is fantastic news for NZ. We should of course be building new prisons to facilitate the scumbags too. My only concern with the new legislation is that there is still one last remaining "get out of jail free" card for the scumbags, whereby on the verge of their 3rd strike the presiding judge can pull out the mercy card where it is clear that to not do so would be unjustly unfair .Given the nature of NZ's many leftist judges, the 3 strike outcome could potentially be overwritten….however on the upside I heard that such a situation would have to be extremely extraordinary.And what a masterstroke having Crusher announce it. Beautiful

  • Dex

    Shame you could read that entire book couldn't manage to comprehend a simple newspaper article.

    This isn't three strikes and your out, it's upon commiting your third serious offence you serve the maximum penalty for that crime which hardly seems draconian given what the maximum penaltys actually are. It should serve to get the worst criminals off the street while won't apply to minor crooks still capable of being rehabilitated so you won't see someone spending 20 years in jail for shoplifting etc.

  • Robert

    See absolutely no reason why Collins should take the kudos. This has been Acts policy for years. Or except maybe Collins is getting sick of the pinkos amongst the rest of the Cabinet. Wouldn't be before time.
    A bit of backbone up Key would be good and you could add Blenglish to that list.

  • Todd

    I must admit it's a step in right direction though it is a pity that ACT is being shunned some of the credit for this. The other problem is that this same escalation of sentences need to be placed across the board for any prison sentence though of course moderated depending on sentence seriousness.
    I get this odd feeling though that it might be abolished if Labour gets the opportunity and that will be a shame. Also ironically lefties seem to believe in shorter sentences with rehabilitation and yet wasn't Mt. Eden prison in the news recently about not having the facilities to rehabilitate the prison.
    In all I'm glad they have implemented this policy though I still hope they focus on rehabilitation and that this is the end result for those who ignore the continuos attempts of help.

  • john

    yes a good step in the right direction – aimed at getting repeat offenders (rock apes) out of our hair for a good number of years – (on he radio the act guy said aimed at 20% of the offenders commit 80% of the crime – which to me is the gang monkeys, all their affiliates and their loser off-spring)

  • Hagues

    Good start, lets hope it can get toughened up in the future.

  • Bill No Name


    "Think, people they kill you to avoid a prison term"

    The deterrant factor right back at the first offence to avoid going to jail has to be more powerful I would have thought?

  • John Boy

    The bigger issue is "What the heck is wrong with us?" In an age of supposed enlightenment and plenty we are increasingly violent and selfish. While I agree with locking ratbags up for ever when needed the underlying cause of our problems apparent remains to be resolved.

  • I was watching Sunrise this morning and they were interviewing some bleeding heat liberal Peter Williams QC.
    There was a comment ( now this is not verbatim but you will get the general gist of the conversation)made how this Act would clean up the streets of repeat crims, this person (i use the term loosely) Peter "dumbass" Williams QC said the results of this Act would be similar to how the Nazi's god rid the "undesirables" and sent them to the gas chamber. What is his guy on, how can you even compare the two things. I found it highly offensive. I get the feeling if this guy had is way there would be no prisons and that all the scumbag crims would be made to sit on the naughty chair for 1 minute for each year they have been stealing oxygen. What an absolute dickhead

  • I would have preferred the Government to spend their time eliminating the Budget deficit rather than appealing to base, populist emotions.

  • Emily

    As a society we need to decide what prison is for first. Is it for rehabilitation or for punishment? Can we get either to work? If 'we' have decided the 3rd strikers are beyond rehabilitation, (which is why they are getting maximum sentences and no opportunity for being let out if they are participating in, and learning from, the rehabilitative process – ie. they are being punished and that is it) then can we please ensure these prisoners are kept WELL away from those prisoners who are still able to be rehabilitated? Otherwise it could seriously mess up that process, likely resulting in more recidivist criminals being released onto the streets.

  • ticfan 67

    In the Uk just after hanging was abolished the courts started out handing down huge sentences for violent crimes eg 40 years for murder etc. the young guys who were copping these sentences (majority of crime is committed by men under 25) couldn't see a future for themselves so decided to fight the system. results huge increase in assaults on warders, jails being destroyed, army called in to deal with the riots, double the bed numbers/double bunking etc. It wasn't till the regime changed and they tried rehab on some of the worst offenders that it calmed down again. I'd prefer to see more money spent on preventing violent offenders being formed ie childcare/parenting classes, intervene at schools, family supports etc than "lock them up 4 eva sloganeering." Target the career criminal families and gangs. many of these young thugs are of low intelligence, mentall ill and semi-literate at best. Hardly likely to think deeply before acting so deterrent effect is non-existent.

    • John

      the point is though that they will be locked up for years and out of the communities hair – deterrent or not

  • Ahhhh Womble-nomics, I wish I was smoking opium like yours